When there is duality, as it were, then one smells something, one sees something, one hears something, one speaks something, one tastes something, one knows something…But when mind dissolves, duality ceases, then what should one smell and through what, what should one hear and through what , what should one see and through what, what should one know and through what, what should one thinks and through what” ( Brhadaranyaka Upanishad )
"I kick my grandmother when she told me the sky is blue. You are telling me; the physical eye does not the sky as blue - shut up, I told my grandmother... She was shivering... That bitch told me."
Lemme give all u seekers a kick in the nuts.There is no blissful state where no mind exists. Body needs mental support to survive, and u CANNOT separate the two. U cannot erase memories, but can train the mind to ignore them. If there is an enlightened state and u attain it, u would never know since u'd be inside it. All gods n saints so far have been frauds - from buddha to christ to krishna to osho to ug. U stand a better chance of getting somewhere if u can just free ur mind of their crap.
@amitnewyork Seekers??? Are you sure you know about UG a little at least? Are you sure you're not commenting on the wrong video? I see you don't.
You're just another brick in that same shitty con wall. There's no way to free the mind cos there's no mind to be free, you're just repeating those stupid false modern jargons like a parrot, and here you are mixing them with some of the same things UG always told from decades ago and attacking him as if you were something new. Go to your scientists.
Oh no, sir, it is U who's repeating "like a parrot" what UG said. Is there no mind? Then who is this that responded to me? Since u r into UG all the way, u must've learned that body itself doesn't care about saying anything to anyone. But u had to reply to me. What compulsion did ur body feel? None. It is ur "mind's" take on my comment that compelled u. All answers lie within sir. U just don't want to look. And u r blaming me for that. Well..do that by all means. I don't mind.
@amitnewyork It's the very same accumulated knowledge that YOU have that is working itself in order to respond by its own, you call it 'mind' and separate it in parts like 'questions', 'answers' and the whole nonsense catalogue. What you call 'mind' is just such accumulated knowledge, not that sentimental entity you try to make of it. There's no entity at all. Praise, blame and so are the dual shit that culture programmed you (the whole mankind) to believe in, there's no such separation at all.
@amitnewyork And I'm not repeating what UG said, I corroborate what he said cos a kind of damn shit like what he called 'calamity' happened to me too, and when the organism was present again there was no 'me' at all, I was - and I am - finished like a living dead man, and it was clear to me from then on that the whole area of the human thought is equivocated from its roots. If I note something I disagree I'll blast him as well, but how could we be different? Nor we're different of you all.
OK, but u didn't answer my question. Why do u feel the need to reply to me? U had ur "calamity". Congrats! U r contiguous, non-dual, and one with all. Now, y bother agree or disagree with anyone? What was the need for UG to raise this ruckus? He said people could see on his face a great aura. Well, no one could tell anything until he had narrated his calamity story to them. Why did he, at all? All this just flies in his and ur face. Don't delude yourself anymore, friend ....contd
.....Truth is impossible to know esp. while u r living in the middle of it. U must step out of this existence to see it. Separation is necessary. U say there is no entity, but still, something in u can see that "YOU" had an experience. The physical eye cannot see. Right? Then what is it in u that sees and speaks about it? Some part of consciousness still remains... which i referred to as "mind". That CANNOT be erased. UG mentioned he shaved few hrs after his calamity. Why did he? ......part 3
part 3... Old habit spurred him to pick up his razor. Didn't it? Can we then say he wasn't "fully" renewed, and some parts from his "OLD" "SELF" just refused to let go? He also mentioned seeing images of Buddha & Shiva in him during the "transformation". He denied Gods all his life & called Buddha a bastard n fraud. Then why feel these entities inside him? How can u NOT SEE a hidden craving in him to reach the same social state that these entities did? How can u NOT SEE UG's social conditioning?
part4...Some part of ur consciousness just cannot be erased. It is the only explanation of child prodigies and unusual genius. What else could make a 3 yr old recite all verses of Bhagavadagita? He'd never ever seen the book. But his (sub)consciousness had that knowledge. Why do we have a 13 yr old MBBS in India? He just knew the theories of medicine. He didn't even have to take the course. Of course, in order to practice, he attended college for 2yrs and get a degree, as per the fucking law....
part5...Desires (even for enlightenment) are a product of only social conditioning. U only covet what u see or hear. How can ur brain even imagine what has never been? Both U and UG were well-read on enlightenment, desired it, meditated on it. Drugged with so much stimulant, it's mighty easy for consciousness to produce any experience any no. of times. It's rather unfortunate u never tried to understand the only source of mystery in life... awareness, this thing that peeks & speaks from inside..
part6...And now there is not even a chance for u since u so vehemently even deny the existence of consciousness despite using it to interact with me. :D How will u ever understand it? It will require monumental courage from u since any admission will immediately falsify the comfortable state u find urself in. The way u've been irritated by my remarks tells me u don't have that courage. All that u state is already there in all ancient Indian spiritual texts. There's nothing new about what u say..
part7...U r one with the world? How? U see that thru a mysterious telescope? The only way u can see how much all humans are alike is by observing ur own thoughts and behavior. U will immediately see how similar people are. How else will u spot social conditioning in u? But u don't want to be similar. U want to be special, and as if as per some divine rule that all people at spiritual curve's end must act modestly, u have to deny it. U are only being fooled here, friend, and only by urself....
part8...I see u've quoted Ashtavakra. It's nice to know u're well-read. Not many people have read that book. We could've had some genuinely objective discussions about abstract subjects. Unfortunately, u've placed urself on such a higher pedestal, though u deny it, that we can't communicate, just like no one could communicate with UG without running the risk of being bitten. U may be like UG, but I'm not. Don't drag me with him. I wish to belong to no category. I wish u a tremendous awakening.
@amitnewyork No, no, my friend, no higher pedestal. There's no one to be anything at all., then there's no one to be higher or lower than 'others'. And it's the Ashtavakra Gita itself that is pointing the dharma as the cause of the adharma itself, I don't deny it cos there's no way for me to know about it, cos there's no one here to know if it's worth observing or not. I just have the glue about the dharmic cause of adharma cos it's a fact the organism experienced, but I'm not judging anything.
@amitnewyork "The way u've been irritated by my remarks tells me u don't have that courage."
Here the conversation is over. Irritated? I wasn't irritated, you're mistaken again, sorry. But, if I was, I wouldn't have any problem with it cos irritation and calm or anything seem as opposite are the very same thing, not two, you know. See now how people advocating dharmic posture only judge the others? Regarding the courage, well, I have the courage to accept this fact at least.
@amitnewyork PS: And thank you very much, but there's no awakening at all, sorry. You see, you wish me 'a tremendous awakening' what presupposes that you're in such 'higher pedestal' and I'm 'still lower', it was such your own higher pedestal itself that you was seeing under my feet. Here again it evidences that there's not two, no separation at all. See, when you write there, I see no difference, it's like if it was wrote by myself. And when I'm writing, it's like if it were another person.
He said there is no past. Yet he claimed that "the calamity" erased all memories of his past. If it truly did, how does he know his past was erased. He said he forgot about a person as soon as he walked out of his presence. Yet he claimed that in some meeting in past he was questioning existence of thought. How did he remember that meeting? And isn't wondering if thought exists a thought in itself? This guy had his wires connected all wrong. Fact that Bhatt was his fan proves he was demented.
Thoughts - There are no thoughts. You can say only about thought.
Awareness - There is no awareness.
Enlightenment - There is no enlightenment.
Someone should've shouted - Then what the fuck are you talking about and why? This fuckhead should've been fed to the wild dogs. His strategy was simple - turn every question upside down, tell people they are stupid, keep them confused and in hunt for some elusive calamity that only he could experience. I say raise him from his grave, and shoot his ass.
@gefftom "Punishment" is the very reason why that bastard you quoted created such stupid thoughts for. You appreciate spirituality, there's a verse of the Ashtavakra Gita that says:
"Cultivate indifference to everything, having given up kama (desire) which is
the enemy, artha (worldly prosperity) which is attended with mischief, and dharma
(performance of good works) which is the cause of these two." (Ashtavakra Gita 10:1)
Dharma ("Righteousness") is the very cause of the whole opposite.
@gefftom Getting angry or calm or something is exactly the very same, the source of both is the only and same accumulated human knowledge, people separate it but it's all the same. And it's the very effort to be the opposite that creates anger itself. You see, for example, trying to be 'dharmic' ('righteous') will produce contrasts and who are not engaged in the same task will be automatically fit as 'adharmic' ('unrighteous'). The same is valid for 'good' and 'bad' and the whole duality.
Someone should have told this asshole that "black" is just the name given to the light of a particular frequency so we can talk about it. It's got nothing to do with the fucking conditioning. And if such a small matter of convenience can cause "social conditioning" in you, then you should admit yourself voluntarily in a mental institution. And just how the fuck can you then become enlightened? Oh god, why didn't he & I ever crossed paths? I would've royally raped him in the open.
@amitnewyork Hahah, you're very optimist. But, sorry, you're very mistaken. UG strongly denied 'enlightenment', UG debunked 'enlightenment' or whatever you prefer to call that false shit the 'holy' con men and the whole filthy gang created to keep on fooling themselves and you all. No way to become 'enlightened' at all, sorry. There's no such thing as 'enlightenment' cos there's no one to be anything at all, period. Finished. Questions are irrelevant, then better stop thinking and start living.
I watched small kids and animals awareness does not exist in them. We were told to be aware by the philosophers. For example our eyes blink but we are not aware of it unless we are told by someone.
I watch UG when I want to enjoy a good laugh...
prakashexe 4 months ago 4
ug just wasnt gettin enough attention at that party so he thought, "better say some outrageous shit right now"
TheMagicEast 6 months ago
Poor grandma...didn't deserve to be called a bitch for saying the sky is blue!
ccsnd77 6 months ago
UG WAS THE TRUTH WALKED ON EARTH
socraties1 7 months ago 4
No bastard ever influenced him LOL
sonofthedestroyer 11 months ago 3
UG says what Upanishad says perhaps in more simple way, if we cud nt understand its our short coming.
9861356322 1 year ago
When there is duality, as it were, then one smells something, one sees something, one hears something, one speaks something, one tastes something, one knows something…But when mind dissolves, duality ceases, then what should one smell and through what, what should one hear and through what , what should one see and through what, what should one know and through what, what should one thinks and through what” ( Brhadaranyaka Upanishad )
9861356322 1 year ago 3
U.G. wasn't so confident when he was been chased down a street in Carson City, Nevada by a naked and drunk Jiddu Krishnamurti back in 1983.
That petty bastard was chased like a dog. You don't have to take my word, ask Ric Flair.
Velasca 1 year ago
U.G., Osho, Jiddu all of them are saying same things but a very unique way of telling the truth, I love all of them
nirvanoalok 1 year ago 2
how enlightened man.. calling his own grandmother "bitch".
atultembe 1 year ago
"I kick my grandmother when she told me the sky is blue. You are telling me; the physical eye does not the sky as blue - shut up, I told my grandmother... She was shivering... That bitch told me."
- U.G. Krishnamurti
BrianTheMusicMan 1 year ago 4
Lemme give all u seekers a kick in the nuts.There is no blissful state where no mind exists. Body needs mental support to survive, and u CANNOT separate the two. U cannot erase memories, but can train the mind to ignore them. If there is an enlightened state and u attain it, u would never know since u'd be inside it. All gods n saints so far have been frauds - from buddha to christ to krishna to osho to ug. U stand a better chance of getting somewhere if u can just free ur mind of their crap.
amitnewyork 1 year ago
@amitnewyork Seekers??? Are you sure you know about UG a little at least? Are you sure you're not commenting on the wrong video? I see you don't.
You're just another brick in that same shitty con wall. There's no way to free the mind cos there's no mind to be free, you're just repeating those stupid false modern jargons like a parrot, and here you are mixing them with some of the same things UG always told from decades ago and attacking him as if you were something new. Go to your scientists.
SamuelSkelter 1 year ago
@SamuelSkelter
Oh no, sir, it is U who's repeating "like a parrot" what UG said. Is there no mind? Then who is this that responded to me? Since u r into UG all the way, u must've learned that body itself doesn't care about saying anything to anyone. But u had to reply to me. What compulsion did ur body feel? None. It is ur "mind's" take on my comment that compelled u. All answers lie within sir. U just don't want to look. And u r blaming me for that. Well..do that by all means. I don't mind.
amitnewyork 1 year ago
@amitnewyork It's the very same accumulated knowledge that YOU have that is working itself in order to respond by its own, you call it 'mind' and separate it in parts like 'questions', 'answers' and the whole nonsense catalogue. What you call 'mind' is just such accumulated knowledge, not that sentimental entity you try to make of it. There's no entity at all. Praise, blame and so are the dual shit that culture programmed you (the whole mankind) to believe in, there's no such separation at all.
SamuelSkelter 1 year ago
@amitnewyork And I'm not repeating what UG said, I corroborate what he said cos a kind of damn shit like what he called 'calamity' happened to me too, and when the organism was present again there was no 'me' at all, I was - and I am - finished like a living dead man, and it was clear to me from then on that the whole area of the human thought is equivocated from its roots. If I note something I disagree I'll blast him as well, but how could we be different? Nor we're different of you all.
SamuelSkelter 1 year ago
@SamuelSkelter
OK, but u didn't answer my question. Why do u feel the need to reply to me? U had ur "calamity". Congrats! U r contiguous, non-dual, and one with all. Now, y bother agree or disagree with anyone? What was the need for UG to raise this ruckus? He said people could see on his face a great aura. Well, no one could tell anything until he had narrated his calamity story to them. Why did he, at all? All this just flies in his and ur face. Don't delude yourself anymore, friend ....contd
amitnewyork 1 year ago
.....Truth is impossible to know esp. while u r living in the middle of it. U must step out of this existence to see it. Separation is necessary. U say there is no entity, but still, something in u can see that "YOU" had an experience. The physical eye cannot see. Right? Then what is it in u that sees and speaks about it? Some part of consciousness still remains... which i referred to as "mind". That CANNOT be erased. UG mentioned he shaved few hrs after his calamity. Why did he? ......part 3
amitnewyork 1 year ago
part 3... Old habit spurred him to pick up his razor. Didn't it? Can we then say he wasn't "fully" renewed, and some parts from his "OLD" "SELF" just refused to let go? He also mentioned seeing images of Buddha & Shiva in him during the "transformation". He denied Gods all his life & called Buddha a bastard n fraud. Then why feel these entities inside him? How can u NOT SEE a hidden craving in him to reach the same social state that these entities did? How can u NOT SEE UG's social conditioning?
amitnewyork 1 year ago
part4...Some part of ur consciousness just cannot be erased. It is the only explanation of child prodigies and unusual genius. What else could make a 3 yr old recite all verses of Bhagavadagita? He'd never ever seen the book. But his (sub)consciousness had that knowledge. Why do we have a 13 yr old MBBS in India? He just knew the theories of medicine. He didn't even have to take the course. Of course, in order to practice, he attended college for 2yrs and get a degree, as per the fucking law....
amitnewyork 1 year ago
part5...Desires (even for enlightenment) are a product of only social conditioning. U only covet what u see or hear. How can ur brain even imagine what has never been? Both U and UG were well-read on enlightenment, desired it, meditated on it. Drugged with so much stimulant, it's mighty easy for consciousness to produce any experience any no. of times. It's rather unfortunate u never tried to understand the only source of mystery in life... awareness, this thing that peeks & speaks from inside..
amitnewyork 1 year ago
part6...And now there is not even a chance for u since u so vehemently even deny the existence of consciousness despite using it to interact with me. :D How will u ever understand it? It will require monumental courage from u since any admission will immediately falsify the comfortable state u find urself in. The way u've been irritated by my remarks tells me u don't have that courage. All that u state is already there in all ancient Indian spiritual texts. There's nothing new about what u say..
amitnewyork 1 year ago
part7...U r one with the world? How? U see that thru a mysterious telescope? The only way u can see how much all humans are alike is by observing ur own thoughts and behavior. U will immediately see how similar people are. How else will u spot social conditioning in u? But u don't want to be similar. U want to be special, and as if as per some divine rule that all people at spiritual curve's end must act modestly, u have to deny it. U are only being fooled here, friend, and only by urself....
amitnewyork 1 year ago
part8...I see u've quoted Ashtavakra. It's nice to know u're well-read. Not many people have read that book. We could've had some genuinely objective discussions about abstract subjects. Unfortunately, u've placed urself on such a higher pedestal, though u deny it, that we can't communicate, just like no one could communicate with UG without running the risk of being bitten. U may be like UG, but I'm not. Don't drag me with him. I wish to belong to no category. I wish u a tremendous awakening.
amitnewyork 1 year ago
@amitnewyork No, no, my friend, no higher pedestal. There's no one to be anything at all., then there's no one to be higher or lower than 'others'. And it's the Ashtavakra Gita itself that is pointing the dharma as the cause of the adharma itself, I don't deny it cos there's no way for me to know about it, cos there's no one here to know if it's worth observing or not. I just have the glue about the dharmic cause of adharma cos it's a fact the organism experienced, but I'm not judging anything.
SamuelSkelter 1 year ago
@amitnewyork "The way u've been irritated by my remarks tells me u don't have that courage."
Here the conversation is over. Irritated? I wasn't irritated, you're mistaken again, sorry. But, if I was, I wouldn't have any problem with it cos irritation and calm or anything seem as opposite are the very same thing, not two, you know. See now how people advocating dharmic posture only judge the others? Regarding the courage, well, I have the courage to accept this fact at least.
SamuelSkelter 1 year ago
@amitnewyork PS: And thank you very much, but there's no awakening at all, sorry. You see, you wish me 'a tremendous awakening' what presupposes that you're in such 'higher pedestal' and I'm 'still lower', it was such your own higher pedestal itself that you was seeing under my feet. Here again it evidences that there's not two, no separation at all. See, when you write there, I see no difference, it's like if it was wrote by myself. And when I'm writing, it's like if it were another person.
SamuelSkelter 1 year ago
He said there is no past. Yet he claimed that "the calamity" erased all memories of his past. If it truly did, how does he know his past was erased. He said he forgot about a person as soon as he walked out of his presence. Yet he claimed that in some meeting in past he was questioning existence of thought. How did he remember that meeting? And isn't wondering if thought exists a thought in itself? This guy had his wires connected all wrong. Fact that Bhatt was his fan proves he was demented.
amitnewyork 1 year ago
Thoughts - There are no thoughts. You can say only about thought.
Awareness - There is no awareness.
Enlightenment - There is no enlightenment.
Someone should've shouted - Then what the fuck are you talking about and why? This fuckhead should've been fed to the wild dogs. His strategy was simple - turn every question upside down, tell people they are stupid, keep them confused and in hunt for some elusive calamity that only he could experience. I say raise him from his grave, and shoot his ass.
amitnewyork 1 year ago
quote from buddah you will not be punished for your anger but by your anger
gefftom 2 years ago
@gefftom "Punishment" is the very reason why that bastard you quoted created such stupid thoughts for. You appreciate spirituality, there's a verse of the Ashtavakra Gita that says:
"Cultivate indifference to everything, having given up kama (desire) which is
the enemy, artha (worldly prosperity) which is attended with mischief, and dharma
(performance of good works) which is the cause of these two." (Ashtavakra Gita 10:1)
Dharma ("Righteousness") is the very cause of the whole opposite.
SamuelSkelter 1 year ago
@SamuelSkelter all i meant to express is that getting angry is not really good.
gefftom 1 year ago
@gefftom Getting angry or calm or something is exactly the very same, the source of both is the only and same accumulated human knowledge, people separate it but it's all the same. And it's the very effort to be the opposite that creates anger itself. You see, for example, trying to be 'dharmic' ('righteous') will produce contrasts and who are not engaged in the same task will be automatically fit as 'adharmic' ('unrighteous'). The same is valid for 'good' and 'bad' and the whole duality.
SamuelSkelter 1 year ago 2
i don't believe him
IandYou0 2 years ago
I would have loved to meet this man
cygnusvideo 2 years ago
your record is stuck old dude,get a new lifetime,and come back and let me know when i'm stuck
creten69 2 years ago
"The physical eye does not see that it's black, that bitch told me" ... Spiritual Comedian
dylanskriloff 2 years ago 11
@dylanskriloff
Someone should have told this asshole that "black" is just the name given to the light of a particular frequency so we can talk about it. It's got nothing to do with the fucking conditioning. And if such a small matter of convenience can cause "social conditioning" in you, then you should admit yourself voluntarily in a mental institution. And just how the fuck can you then become enlightened? Oh god, why didn't he & I ever crossed paths? I would've royally raped him in the open.
amitnewyork 1 year ago
@amitnewyork Hahah, you're very optimist. But, sorry, you're very mistaken. UG strongly denied 'enlightenment', UG debunked 'enlightenment' or whatever you prefer to call that false shit the 'holy' con men and the whole filthy gang created to keep on fooling themselves and you all. No way to become 'enlightened' at all, sorry. There's no such thing as 'enlightenment' cos there's no one to be anything at all, period. Finished. Questions are irrelevant, then better stop thinking and start living.
SamuelSkelter 1 year ago
what the hell did he say
zarglox 2 years ago
Damn! I think he said his grandma was a bitch for telling him the sky is blue and his jacket is black.
IndividualityMonarch 2 years ago 12
He did! Hahaha
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swamidodo 2 years ago
I watched small kids and animals awareness does not exist in them. We were told to be aware by the philosophers. For example our eyes blink but we are not aware of it unless we are told by someone.
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swamidodo 2 years ago
Is that not a contradiction as you still invoke the notion of awareness even though in your example it is prompted by another?
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