totally random thought that just came to mind - i cant fucking believe Madonna is in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. really, hasnt money and power destroyed the dignity of all things?
@jas22 the rock and roll hall of fame never meant anything. It's just a private club for the owners to wank off and give their favorite rock acts props and rake in tourism money. They throw out awards to other bands that are canon too, I guess. Doesn't take a genius to realize the impact of the bands they throw a bone too, tho. Ohio needs the tourism money, okay!
Industrial dates back to the first caveman banging rocks together. I think "industrial", like "noise" is more a state of mind than an actual description of musical content. The pioneers of the industrial genre are probably not too happy to be put in the (nowadays very narrow) category of "industrial". In a way, the less you follow the conventions of industrial, the closer you get to its actual roots. Like Nietzsche said: "if you want to follow me, walk your own path" (loosely translated)
Industrial started with Throbbing Gristle's Industrial Records but its heritage goes back as far as The Futurist composer Luigi Rosolo's noise compositions,The Dadaists noise-art concept of Brutism as well as the early Russian avant-guard filmmaker and composer Dziga Vertov's work.
good looking out. it seems that with avant garde trendssetters, history tends to suffer a bit. growing up in punk rock and art circles, i ran into plenty of folks with revisionist narrowed view of significant contributors to the genre.
Indeed,Industrial is a pretty generic term which could rightlyfully apply to so many different musical idioms(I still struggle classifying TG.lol)Great call on Schaeffer,who's still goes underappreciated and unmentioned too often.
And I actually forgot to mention John Cage's role in that evolution.
that is so mean! Blixa is not an arty farty fat. Which is an interesting thing so say about someone with a very brillaint mind and so what if he put on a bit of weight? That kind of man is still sexy no matter what size-the intelligence is sexy
I loooove Einstürzende Neubauten. I love them since 1984-85 already. They were extremely innovative and don't sell out. But am I the only one to think Blixa is such an arty farty fat?
@koylmusic Who the fuck cares? I understand what both of you are saying but seriously, who the fuck cares? Just listen to music. TG, Neubauten, WW2, meh.
When sonic youth started collecting the Jazzmasters that make up the majority of their guitar arsenal.. late 80's early 90's.. the Vintage models weren't that expensive.. They're use of them and other alt bands of the time is whats driven the prices up to what you see now on 1960's Jazzmasters, jaguars and other non tele/strat models of fenders..
It's the singer/guitarist of Einstürzende Neubauten, one of the most influencial industrial band ever and was on of the guitar player of Nick Cave and the bad seeds... an unknown man so to say.. ^^
blixa is far from unknown and he hated his band being called industrial.EN is krautrock.although i dont see a huge difference.i think krautrock is a little more on the avant garde side and early industrial almost always used electronic percussion,whereas EN just bang on steel pipes or something.anyways who cares what its called,SY and EN are awesome.thanks for the video.
what gets EN called industrial is the similarities they have to bands like TG; the experimental and distorted approach to music at around the same time, the screaming and chanting- anyone can admit that early Neubauten has quite a few similarities to what has become the backbone to industrial. the unique approach to percussion Neubauten took was more like their "signature" than something that should be used to differentiate it from industrial.
Blixa looks so handsome in this. =] I like his view on music. Traditional isn't for him, he enjoys alternative ways of making music, which I find inspirational and creative.
Ha Ha it's really pointless arguing musical preferences with some metal geek. They don't understand that it's really a waste of time or imagination trying to come up with their latest version of Black Sabbath. Their ridiculous self importance and talk about guitar technique is a laugh riot, don't ya think? What else should I expect from someone who reveres one of THE MOST OVERRATED albums like Pasture Of Muppets. Musical fuckwits, bless their buttrocker hearts.
ZombieJesus there about $750-$1400 new depending if there from Japan or USA,older ones can be quite valuable, early 60s Jazzmasters can fetch up to $10,000 and beyond in good shape-early 50s stratocasters in clean shape are pulling well over a 100 grand-pew
Mark E. Smith, Sonic Youth and Einstürzende Neubauten in one vid... that's pretty cool I guess
MisterSpinalzo 3 weeks ago
Wasn't he a guitarist as a Bad Seed? Maybe Nick has impressive blackmail material...
illiteratellipsis 4 months ago
I love German.
XxxkenzaxxX 5 months ago
cool!
saltykraut 8 months ago
totally random thought that just came to mind - i cant fucking believe Madonna is in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. really, hasnt money and power destroyed the dignity of all things?
jas22 9 months ago
@jas22 the rock and roll hall of fame never meant anything. It's just a private club for the owners to wank off and give their favorite rock acts props and rake in tourism money. They throw out awards to other bands that are canon too, I guess. Doesn't take a genius to realize the impact of the bands they throw a bone too, tho. Ohio needs the tourism money, okay!
halalbackgirl 8 months ago
Industrial dates back to the first caveman banging rocks together. I think "industrial", like "noise" is more a state of mind than an actual description of musical content. The pioneers of the industrial genre are probably not too happy to be put in the (nowadays very narrow) category of "industrial". In a way, the less you follow the conventions of industrial, the closer you get to its actual roots. Like Nietzsche said: "if you want to follow me, walk your own path" (loosely translated)
Cyrillion 9 months ago
Industrial is just another name of the industry, good music don´t need labels, some names make references to subcultures.
nice see this from the same Blixa,
I think E.N find S-Y and viseverse for Lydia Lunch, sorry my caca english.
zeitok8 9 months ago
1:00 holy shit its Mark E. Smith!
zepphindle234 1 year ago
Fascinating man fascinating.
Lieu3C4 1 year ago
anybody know this dude?^^ even though i´m german^^
fruhotchiliman 1 year ago
I would say that industrial music started in France with Pierre Schaeffer Musique concrète
L0un9ePunk 1 year ago
@L0un9ePunk
Industrial started with Throbbing Gristle's Industrial Records but its heritage goes back as far as The Futurist composer Luigi Rosolo's noise compositions,The Dadaists noise-art concept of Brutism as well as the early Russian avant-guard filmmaker and composer Dziga Vertov's work.
thirdshift47 9 months ago
@thirdshift47
good looking out. it seems that with avant garde trendssetters, history tends to suffer a bit. growing up in punk rock and art circles, i ran into plenty of folks with revisionist narrowed view of significant contributors to the genre.
L0un9ePunk 9 months ago
@L0un9ePunk
No problem man.
Indeed,Industrial is a pretty generic term which could rightlyfully apply to so many different musical idioms(I still struggle classifying TG.lol)Great call on Schaeffer,who's still goes underappreciated and unmentioned too often.
And I actually forgot to mention John Cage's role in that evolution.
Keep lettin' these cats know.
thirdshift47 9 months ago
Blix sing's the weeping man song pretty dam good with the deep voice he's got.
ultracrunchy 1 year ago
JAHH!......ich moch das ALSO
PAULLONDEN 1 year ago
that is so mean! Blixa is not an arty farty fat. Which is an interesting thing so say about someone with a very brillaint mind and so what if he put on a bit of weight? That kind of man is still sexy no matter what size-the intelligence is sexy
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I loooove Einstürzende Neubauten. I love them since 1984-85 already. They were extremely innovative and don't sell out. But am I the only one to think Blixa is such an arty farty fat?
fran627 2 years ago
nice interview
ThePoisonDoor 2 years ago
wow... I was surprised 'understanding' him so well :D
I am german...
TheCousin666 2 years ago
I love Blixa and Sonic Youth, so this is awesome.
2n2equals5 2 years ago 6
Hey, there's nothing wrong with guitars!
45009234 2 years ago 2
Industrial music started in Britain with Industrial Records.
IanSchultz13 2 years ago
Industrial music started when the bomb dropped on Hiroshima... ^^
koylmusic 2 years ago 16
@koylmusic much much earlier
solyombela 1 year ago
@koylmusic I second that but you both may have a point.
faunflynn 1 year ago
@koylmusic No, it started with the industrialization.
alukauzpurnis 1 year ago
@koylmusic Who the fuck cares? I understand what both of you are saying but seriously, who the fuck cares? Just listen to music. TG, Neubauten, WW2, meh.
dansemacabre17 6 months ago
@koylmusic cunt
invertedchords 6 months ago
@koylmusic Funny, that is when Butoh started as well.
EyesofNeurosis 3 weeks ago
When sonic youth started collecting the Jazzmasters that make up the majority of their guitar arsenal.. late 80's early 90's.. the Vintage models weren't that expensive.. They're use of them and other alt bands of the time is whats driven the prices up to what you see now on 1960's Jazzmasters, jaguars and other non tele/strat models of fenders..
northerndirt 3 years ago 4
They lost a bunch of them in the theft in 99, but have replaced a lot of them since..
I remember seeing a vintage Jaguar in a guitar shop in NYC in 1992 and it was around $500..
I bought a 1965 Fender mustang in 93-94 for $350 with original case..
northerndirt 3 years ago 3
I hate you..Not actually. I just wish i was alive to ever get a chance at grabbing one of those back then. Sigh.
Kaleb34 2 years ago
...and often i think it were japan models... they payed between 50 to 150 as far as i remember an interview.
thesuikerlounge 3 years ago
"da komm ich schon rüber!"
Ah, I love him. ^_^
moosikerin 3 years ago 8
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Who... IS. THIS. GUY???????????????
lukeashmoore 3 years ago
It's the singer/guitarist of Einstürzende Neubauten, one of the most influencial industrial band ever and was on of the guitar player of Nick Cave and the bad seeds... an unknown man so to say.. ^^
koylmusic 3 years ago 10
kk. cheers buddy, i was gonna say that Big Black was one of the proto industrial greats... but i guess its gotta start in germany!
lukeashmoore 3 years ago
blixa is far from unknown and he hated his band being called industrial.EN is krautrock.although i dont see a huge difference.i think krautrock is a little more on the avant garde side and early industrial almost always used electronic percussion,whereas EN just bang on steel pipes or something.anyways who cares what its called,SY and EN are awesome.thanks for the video.
AAbcAaA123 3 years ago 5
what gets EN called industrial is the similarities they have to bands like TG; the experimental and distorted approach to music at around the same time, the screaming and chanting- anyone can admit that early Neubauten has quite a few similarities to what has become the backbone to industrial. the unique approach to percussion Neubauten took was more like their "signature" than something that should be used to differentiate it from industrial.
pogofied 2 years ago 6
he looks so beautiful in this video
mzfiguer 3 years ago 7
I saw this on TV the other day ^.^
voktyabreh 3 years ago
thurston moore is so good. also adrian ultey from portishead. ... masters of playing guitar with a screwdriver/guitar stick.
Phibes87 3 years ago 4
The funny thing is there guitars look "Clapped out" But there old Jaguars, Jazzmasters and other old Fenders Covered in stickers and battle scars.
I know in there early days they had Cheap Copies but they always had at least one Jazzmaster or Telecaster Deluxe.
Or Lee's Signature the Jazzblaster which is a Jazzmaster with Tele Deluxe pickups.
maximusv1 3 years ago 2
Blixa looks so handsome in this. =] I like his view on music. Traditional isn't for him, he enjoys alternative ways of making music, which I find inspirational and creative.
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if you are GOOD musician you can say that,i agree, if you are a composer, you r wellcome.
if you play with pressure cookers, alternavie noise. It might be you say it cause you are not able.
gianluigixxxx 3 years ago
hey you! shut up
mwright165 3 years ago
Ha Ha it's really pointless arguing musical preferences with some metal geek. They don't understand that it's really a waste of time or imagination trying to come up with their latest version of Black Sabbath. Their ridiculous self importance and talk about guitar technique is a laugh riot, don't ya think? What else should I expect from someone who reveres one of THE MOST OVERRATED albums like Pasture Of Muppets. Musical fuckwits, bless their buttrocker hearts.
swans1997 2 years ago 7
ahah it hurts .....cause its true.. eh ;-))
gianluigixxxx 3 years ago
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Sonic youths guitars are hardly "cheap" they use Jazzmasters mainly, each of which is about $3500
ZombieJesusBrainz 3 years ago
he's referring to their humble beginnings in the 80's. Also, they used generic jazzmaster thrift store copies
icantstandmyself 3 years ago 6
ZombieJesus there about $750-$1400 new depending if there from Japan or USA,older ones can be quite valuable, early 60s Jazzmasters can fetch up to $10,000 and beyond in good shape-early 50s stratocasters in clean shape are pulling well over a 100 grand-pew
urheadonastick 3 years ago
if you ever go to a sonic youth show you see that they will use a jazzmaster but also they have like about 25 guitars that are techinically crap.
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he doesnt like guitars cause are too difficult to play. (well)
gianluigixxxx 3 years ago
are you a classic rock cunt or you just have something about herr Bargeld? in both cases your comment is poor
CircusOfHeaven 3 years ago 12
there's plenty of professional musicians and even composers i will add, that do not like guitars. nothing to do with being able to play here.
nightowl4064 3 years ago 6
"Das mocht ich!"
how is the whole documentation called ?
KutaniCrane 3 years ago
This is an excerpt for a documentary about Sonic Youth called "20 years of Sonic Youth"
gsbn86 3 years ago
Neubauten and the Youth must rank among the seminal music makers of the 20th Century...well, the 21st as well. Great clip, many thanks for it!
Cocrteau3 3 years ago 3
Ah da komm ich schon rüber!
Loudfasthate 3 years ago 3
blixa hat die geilste stimme der welt!!!
AdolfSucks 3 years ago 8
!!!
It's almost revolting how sexy he just is..
And drat it all, my mom gets to see Neubauten and I can't come! MEETING HIM ONCE JUST INS'T E-f*cking-NOUGH!
XD
Thanks for posing this, I'll rant no more on your comment.. place.. thing..
impure0purest 4 years ago 5
Thanks.
It was late when I uploaded it and I was probably too tired.. ^^
Now I feel like an idiot.
Mispelling corrected now..
koylmusic 4 years ago
:)...
The force made me correct it :(
waramy2 4 years ago
... It's Bargeld not Bargel :/ :(
waramy2 4 years ago