BMW goes to war against Chinese carmaker - part 2/2

[Anthonykurten]

The only they should do is Chinese Food, NOT CARS.....

This people make me sick!!!

[putterosk]

Great grammar down there.

[baijx1382]

law can not protect U because law is for people to break.

important thing is all Chinese would like to see their can produce the same things what westen produced.And they like to buy it,coz its cheap.Japanese Car doing well in China ,coz it`s saving gas.

westen car may run faster,driving comfortable,or... but since they 3X or 10X more expansive than the Chinese made,all those advance means nothing.

westen Car only success to gain Chinese woman`s love,coz only weath man can buy it.

[Tanahwei]

@baijx1382

be careful of the term "all chinese". I dont think overseas non communist chinese would prefer CHINA cars over japanese or european cars.

[blahbla6666]

@baijx1382 U are living in the middle ages dumbass

[HDsharp]

Still Gold is valuable only if there's a demand for it, the demand for it is because of its appearance, less put it this way, if gold look like shit, no one would want it...and gold is not as rare as you think, just like diamonds, the production is held back by the produces to keep their value up on the market.

[HDsharp]

Correction, its....Gun powder and 'rockets' ...not rackets..

[flagship21]

China is just recailming its thrown as the ruler of the earth

[SpeedingStudent]

@flagship21 China never ruled the earth. Much of Asia through the Khans, yes...but not the whole earth.

[mikado201019]

Anyway, they cannot copy true brains! Don't sell them any technologies, any manufacturing secrets and strategies and they'll be fucked! Fuck the copycats! Let them drive their own shit cars.

[TamiyaRunner]

Its a very interesting discussion topic, but we have to ask ourselves...did any Japanese carmakers copy any western cars of the 1960s? And the same with Korean cars on the 1990's. No, and it should be no exception with China

[AnjuABCDE]

True unbiased business man

[misiobear77]

The same rule applies to each western country. First you still money and then you invest and then you forget the past and from now on you claim that you are legitimate entrepreneur and you will sue anyone who plays dirty. That is called Capitalism with its lenient rules and greedy folks.

[MrHusobadao]

It's not copier.

We call " co-operationiero"

[philly1537]

china copy everything

[andyhwang2009]

You insult chinese car designers. I look at chinese cars but no chinese cars similar to original ones. Any kid can differentiate any Chinese cars and original ones.China invented paper and Gun powder. Western and other countries copied from China making paper  and gun powders.

[71CommodoreGSE]

@andyhwang2009: western paper originated in papyrus (which was invented by the Aegypts). Don't know about gun powder.

China only needs to improve their quality (+ give their cars less idiotic names), stop copying western designs and bring in some own ideas. The Japanese managed that when they realized that no one out of Japan would buy a copy.

[ooMATTiAoo]

lets say: a company create something beautiful, with soul and passion, and a couple of months later the chinese make a crappy copy of it just 10 times less expensive!! i would be quite fucking pissed about it!! am i wrong??

[andyhwang2009]

@ooMATTiAoo

You insult Chinese car designers. American Car makers except Ford and other Europe and Japan car makers copied from Ford .Any kids, Children can differentiate genuine cars and Chinese cars . I think you have eye problem or eye disease if you can't differentiate them. I think you should discuss with your Eye doctor.

[SpeedingStudent]

Unoriginal idiots.

[andyhwang2009]

@SpeedingStudent

You are idiot, stupid.You insult Chinese car designers. American Car makers except Ford and other Europe  and Japan car makers copied from Ford .Any kids, Children can differentiate genuine cars and Chinese cars . I think you have eye problem or eye disease if you can't differentiate them. I think you should discuss with your Eye doctor.

[williameva]

i have a crone chinese i-phone. it takes dual sim cards and works the same as an i-phone and its only 100usd. even if it breaks after a year of use will be worth the money.

[HDsharp]

Remember the American cars, they were shite too, then everyone copied the Japanese, but i admit the copying wasn't that blatant..lol

I'm sure the out cry will make the particular car maker to tone it down a bit.

[andyhwang2009]

@HDsharp

right. American Car makers except Ford and other Europe and Japan car makers copied from Ford .Any kids, Children can differentiate genuine cars and Chinese cars .

[vlanban]

I think like the business invited speaker said, theres no room for complaining. The chinese are learning and in time, when they will create their very own foot print, they will have to abide to the international rules.

On the other hand, the chinese manufacturers give opportunities for people who dream to have a luxury car...like a lesser BMW for a lesser price!

[EthanJM]

If this keeps up this will slow down the progression in the car market. Everytime a car manufacturer innovates and pours cash into their work the chinese will simply copy them without all the work and money and sell the product for less. This is really dirty.

[HDsharp]

So it wasn't dirty when the west copied the Chinese for centuries? half of the west wouldn't even exist if they didn't copied the compass and gun powder! where was the law then? everyone is copying all the time, its just their time, you're just jealous.

[EthanJM]

Copying technology is fine, copying market products is dirty.

[HDsharp]

whats the difference, copying is copying, china (white china antiques) was copied and fans were copied. but its not dirty but cheeky, But what i don't get is, its not like they cant invent new designs, there are original chinese car designs around, but its like they went out their way to produce knocks offs for a cheaper price intentionally to fill a market, me being chinese you wont see me in one but i'm sure non chinese will go for them if they're good value.

[EthanJM]

Well that is what I mean, they are copying direct market products. It isn't right, they spend millions producing the thing so china can come along and copy it, this can really hurt the car industry, evolution of car design might slow down to a standstill because of this.

[HDsharp]

You have a point, but people have the final decision to buy or not, they only get a certain type of customer. Going back on your earlier point, I think copying inventions is much worse, I'll rather have someone copy a design of mine instead of an invention..

[EthanJM]

To a degree... What if something really ingenius was invented that didn't require nearly as much to produce as it did to sell and the patent holder was selling it way out of most peoples price range? There comes a time when copying technology is ok.

[HDsharp]

Isn't that similar in this situation, the branded cars are too expensive, so a few chinese car companies are doing exactly what you are implying selling it cheaper, to be honest i think most things are much more expensive to sell, advertising is epensive, ..but either way I still think inventions are sacred much more so than designs.

[andyhwang2009]

@EthanJM

You insult Chinese car designers. American Car makers except Ford and other Europe and Japan car makers copied from Ford .Any kids, Children can differentiate genuine cars and Chinese cars . I think you have eye problem or eye disease if you can't differentiate them. I think you should discuss with your Eye doctor.

[andyhwang2009]

@HDsharp

right. West and European copied from Chinese How to make Porcelain and compass and gunpowder, paper.They insult Chinese car designers. American Car makers except Ford and other Europe and Japan car makers copied from Ford .Any kids, Children can differentiate genuine cars and Chinese cars . I think they have eye problem or eye disease if they can't differentiate them. I think they  should discuss with your Eye doctor.

[andyhwang2009]

@EthanJM

You insult Chinese car designers. American Car makers except Ford and other Europe and Japan car makers copied from Ford .Any kids, Children can differentiate genuine cars and Chinese cars . I think you have eye problem or eye disease if you can't differentiate them. I think you  should discuss with your Eye doctor.

[samba1salza1bbbba]

shame on china. india on the other hand is becoming the R&D centre for the world's largest manufacturers. cars made in india are cheap but good in quality. they are many good innovative products from india eg: nano, indica, scorpio etc made by tata motors, mahindra, maruti etc. cars like A star(alto), splash, sx4, etc are exported from india to europe, africa, america, ausralia etc. companies such as hyundai design, manufacture and export from india(i 10).

[wigo33]

message fot BMW - lower the price of your cars! And other one - open your eyes - about which copy of X5 were you talking?? It is more different design that similar.

[openmalay]

are you blind and stupid it the same shape.The china hate japan but still use japan product .made from china doesent mean you have right to copy 100% .....

[andyhwang2009]

@samba1salza1bbbba

Your India car makers copied form Ford because India bought Land Rover from Ford. You insult Chinese car designers. India car makers , American Car makers except Ford and other Europe and Japan car makers copied from Ford .

[5687678]

What ever it's the trend.

[mifimofoo123]

yea Chinese cars are hideous, but they are new to production of cars. Good tactic to copy other cars to speed up the production of cars. They cant copy all the time or else they would always be behind their competitors. Nevertheless copying is good, like tht they learn faster, i mean fuck, why invent the wheel? Take the short cuts and move on..

[tomkkkkk]

People like you dont deserve to even own a car if they cant respect the time and money put into producing a well made car. Fuck you, you narrow minded bafoon

[wigo33]

poor boy. you are so nasty. stop putting pressure on othe people. It is discussion! Aren´t you BMW employee? If yoes, I am sorry for you. Ceo will "overroll" you! :-)

[mifimofoo123]

time waits for no man, copy all the way and move on, just look forward..... tomkkkk ur a twat, the world will leave u behind, u can keep whining all u want but its happening, so go back to ur corner and live in ur bubble of the so called 'OPEN MIND' u have... turd

[topgear215]

Time and effort? Have you seen other communist cars that have made a good lasting impression? Well that was called the Soviet Union and their cars were so badly made that anyone could have been killed in them.

[andyhwang2009]

@topgear215

Your anti China car is out of date. China Car  maker Geely bought World famous Luxury and safest car Volvo .I think you will buy Chinese made Volvo 3 years later.

[SpeedingStudent]

@andyhwang2009 First off, I have nothing against Chinese cars. I have something against Chinese companies that copy others and pass it off as their own, that is dishonest, and shows that these companies are very poor students of technology.

Oh, and Volvos are shit. I'll have a BMW instead.

[HDsharp]

@SpeedingStudent

do you have an isusue with supermarkets copying well known brand name foods? cos they do, and i bet you,ve bought some too without raising an eye lid.

why do you get upset over a company copying, its it cos they,re a chinese company? you really should have a think at why you're upset, you're maybe just racists without knowing it.

[SpeedingStudent]

@HDsharp You are right; I have no issue with generic food.

You cannot pattent a recipe, dumbass. Technology can be patented. Apples and oranges, bitch.

[HDsharp]

@Speeding Student

Then you are a hypocrite and clearly a racist...the Supermarket brands hijack the packaging design of well known brands and sell them side by side the well known brands they're copying..Whats the difference to chinese car companies copying designs of other cars, the technologies of the chinese cars are not the same as the cars they copying just as the ingredients of supermarket brands are not the same as the brands they're copying.

[SpeedingStudent]

@HDsharp You know nothing. many Chinese companies also copy the same engines, transmissions, interior pieces, etc. from companies that build cars for the Chinese market, especially VW, Audi, Honda, Toyota, etc.

Copying shows a poor, and dumb, student.

[SpeedingStudent]

@HDsharp And don't pull the racist card, dumbass. I love Asians, especially the Japanese, who have built their auto and motorcycle industry from next to nothing, and didn't resort to copying like a poor student--like the Chinese currently do.

You see, culturally, the Japanese have honor. Look it up.

[HDsharp]

@Speeding Student

Just remember who copied the chinese first, where was the honor then..its no big deal really, its up to the companies to sue the chinese companies, there's no need to give the chinese grief at any given opportunity.

[SpeedingStudent]

@HDsharp What are you talking about? Who has copied the Chinese...and most importantly, WHY whould anyone want to copy the Chinese? lol

Start making some senese, man.

[HDsharp]

@SpeedingStudent

Stupid, where would you whiteys be without gun powder and the compass the chinese invented the europeans copied?, still be in frigging freezing europe mate..the chinese inveted money, that was copied and use and loved...lol

[SpeedingStudent]

@HDsharp The Chinese used gun powder for fireworks...the Euros used basic physics to weaponize it.

Your beloved Chinese money came well after the babalonians, who were the first with a true economic system based upon more than simple barter.

Read a book.

[HDsharp]

@SpeedingStudent

they used gun powder for Fire works and dynamite and rockets in fact, we still invented gun poweder nevertheless. without it you cavemen will still have bow and arrows....lol

[SpeedingStudent]

@HDsharp Keep dreaming. Euros weaponized gunpowder first. Chinese just used it as a toy.

[HDsharp]

@SpeedingStudent

So rockets isnt a weapon,,,dummy, they still stole chinese inventions.

[SpeedingStudent]

@HDsharp It's called the "Silk Road", dumbass. Look it up.

[HDsharp]

@SpeedingStudent

silk road or not, the west still took the inventions of the chinese, fansy names which the west like to use for their crimes dont change a thing in the eyes of others but to themselves.

[SpeedingStudent]

@HDsharp So butthurt. Try using lube next time, baby.

Chinese are just stealing Western tech, and it shows how un-original their engineers are. It's theft, and it shows they can't do it on their own. Pathetic.

Enjoy your Brilliance when you get in a crash, Xue.

[HDsharp]

@SpeedingStudent

Sooo what, the west stole chinese tech to conquer the world with, then the west thought lets invent copyright laws so their inventions cant be stolen in future like they stole from the chinese, guess what? the chinese dont have to abid by laws that are made up to get back at them... scores even..:)

[SpeedingStudent]

@HDsharp A thief, with no honor.

[HDsharp]

@SpeedingStudent

Who does these days, its dog eats dog, you think we havent learnt from the past and present, the fact is even if asians are honorable, they are disrespected and taken advantage of, you lot take us for granted thats the truth regardless, soo stick your honor and practice it yourself and get taken advantage off instead...lol

[SpeedingStudent]

@HDsharp Yep, no honor. Eat shit.

[HDsharp]

@SpeedingStudent

Do you whites have honor, like hell you got honor, you got nothing either so dont preach to me about honor, yous argue about honor when it suits yous, so you eat shit!..:p

[SpeedingStudent]

@HDsharp Japanese have honor. Chinese do not.

Now go back to bed, twink.

[HDsharp]

@SpeedingStudent

Bullshit, the Chinese have honour as well, you're just pigeon hole all Chinese and being racists. now on the other hand whites and blacks have the least honour, so go and fcuk your mum this time..:P when theres no honour in the world why be a fool, people are just out for there own interest everywhere, thats the state of affairs these days, and all thanks to europeans!

[kiwiiisland]

@SpeedingStudent That's just bullshit.

Japs practically was the Nazis of the East.

How dare you talk about honor?

[SpeedingStudent]

@kiwiiisland Blow me. The Japs were lead by bayonet by a fascist militaristic nutjob.

I was in Tokyo and dropped my wallet, it had over 10,000 Yen in it (around $90 at the time)...an old man (must have been 80 years old) followed me slowly (as he wasn't young anymore) and caught up to me to return it. THAT is honor!

Would I have experienced that in Beijing? Fuck no.

Sod off.

[kiwiiisland]

@SpeedingStudent Clearly - you not one to reason with. You're justifying the killing, slavery, and raping of hundred of thousands men and women in South East and East Asia with 90 bucks (WTF?!).

What's next? 900,000+ people killed in Iraq and 1,600,000+ injured was caused by facist militaristic nutjobs? Hell yes it is.

Don't try to explain no nothing to me - explain that to God. Can you? If you can - I'd be happy to listen to your bullshit. As for now - go fuck yourself.

[SpeedingStudent]

@kiwiiisland Suck it, twink.

There is no god.

Blow it out your arse.

[kiwiiisland]

@SpeedingStudent Idiot -_-'

[kiwiiisland]

@SpeedingStudent And fag.

[SpeedingStudent]

@kiwiiisland I'm your daddy.

[AlternateArtisan]

@SpeedingStudent The west is only whining about it because it's actually working. Chinese made knockoffs may not work as well or be as relaible, but they are much more affordable. Quantity is a quality in itself.

[SpeedingStudent]

@AlternateArtisan Hahahahahaha!

If that were the case, the Soviets would have won the Cold War, with their wooden mobile ICBMs, designed to look real for parades, and their MiG 35 FOXBATS, that still used cathode ray tubes instead of transitors.

Lord knows they made way more weapons, way more aircraft, tanks, etc. Yet, aside from the AK-47, none of them proved reliable.

More shit is just that, shit.

[AlternateArtisan]

@SpeedingStudent the cold war never went hot. during the late 1970s if it wasn;t for MAD, the USSR would have rolled over Nato much the same way it did over germany in WW2. You fail to understand that there are Much more poeple out there that can't afford posh western crap than there are those that can.  why do you think knockoffs are so profitable?

[SpeedingStudent]

@AlternateArtisan Wrong. Russia did not "steamroll" over Germany in WWII. They won through attrition, and the dumbass nazis fighting on two fronts with a country little larger in landmass than the state of florida. Russia was on the run for the longest, echoing their war with Napoleon over a hundred years prior. Same result, Russia was so large, that a land victory for the invading army became a quickly diminishing retrun. Russia just waited to win.

[AlternateArtisan]

@SpeedingStudent twards the end of the war russians still did overwhelm the germans on the eastern front. Ofcourse considering the advantage the germans had over the soviets at the start of the war in both experience and technology. The fact that endless waves of troops were still amassed and conquered everything east of Berlin still proves the soviet tactic to have worked in the end. In the end, the russians pretty much counter blitzed the germans.

[SpeedingStudent]

@AlternateArtisan This is true, but their tech was largely shit.

[SpeedingStudent]

@AlternateArtisan That said, the average Chinese buys their car in cold hard Yuan (which I loudly applaud them for). Also, the average MSRP on a car sold in China is $28K USD, and they love the Buick nameplate over there (I have no fucking idea why, Buicks are boring shit), so don't say they are poor over in China.

Knockoffs are popular because it is easier to look over the A student's shoulder and copy, than to invent answers yourself. That's why. Oh, and the PRC's support of this helps..

[AlternateArtisan]

@SpeedingStudent it's all a part of the economic strategy of keeping profits in china while allowing chinese companies and engineers to learn the secrets of western designs.

[SpeedingStudent]

@AlternateArtisan Yes, but it still shows they are poor students with no honor. If the commies were so brilliant, they would innovate, not duplicate. That's all I'm saying.

[AlternateArtisan]

@SpeedingStudent it's just a different means of achieving a goal. It's like comparing communism to capitalism.

[animesis]

@HDsharp

us europeans invented the compass independantly later maybe but on our own and our compasses werent a metal stick floating on water

and our ships were vastly superior to the chinese junks, theres a reason the modern term junk has become to mean rubbish

if the chinese copied the idea to use an engine powered on petrol fine but they dont the chinese copy the design

china failed at science because they didnt invent glass, they did well on chance but when it came to science they were lost

[HDsharp]

@animesis

At the end of the day, when no one had the opportunity to copy others or get inspiration from another country in early history, it was the chinese who were far more advance then anyone else left at their own devices. the only reason europeans caught up with china, is because they sent Marc polo to china to learn and adopt ideas from the chinese, not long after the Renascence in europe was complete

[animesis]

@HDsharp

the issue with the compass was that both places invented them independantly, China may have invented one earlier but the Europeans did not know of its existance when they came up with theirs

and to say Europe only "caught up" with China because they went to china is arrogant

European ideas were coming into China as were Chinese ideas going to Europe so why didnt the industrial revolution take off in China, why has it taken so many hundreds of years for China to "catch up"

[HDsharp]

@animesis

and u r right, the invention of glass did bring about the next step of progress in europe, but still, what europeans achieved did have a chinese influence, without it, europeans development would have been a lot slower or never would have taken off even. How crude the chinese compass was is not important, its the concept and the function of the chinese compass that really counts. I think the ancients where the first to cast gold.

[animesis]

Europeans dont claim Chinese ideas have not helped, the "four great inventions" gunpowder paper compass and printing was a British idea that the Chinese have hijacked

But China uses this idea to claim rights to everything that develops in this modern world and uses it as an argument to plagarise peoples designs, following tech is one thing, but to clearly rip off on someones artistic design is quite another

these a big difference between utilising an idea and directly copying it

[HDsharp]

@animesis

LOL...now you're becoming delusional, we had those inventions before anyone had contact with the outside world..you cant fool anyone, there are chinese records to support history you know..its a well know fact you guys took ideas not only of gun powder but of rackets too. we didn't have travellers like marco polo stealing ideas from others, yes we were ignorant back then thats because we were the most advance back then, otherwise you whites wouldnt come nosing around..y r an idiot.

[animesis]

@HDsharp

im guessing English isnt your first language

"the idea of the four great inventions" the whole notion of the four greats not the inventions themselves

us "whites" liked China because you had an abundance of things we wanted like tea and spices, not because you were superior technologically its ironic that China was leader in technology when they were still traversing the Earth but when they stayed home things fell back a bit

taking ideas is one thing but China just rips off others work

[HDsharp]

@animesis

Taking ideas is not much different to ripping off ideas, whats the difference? they both serve the same purpose its to acquire somebody else's invention without their consent. We had it all, all the things the west envy at that time, and we only fell behind becos what the west did to us, that hampered the development in china.

[animesis]

and we didnt take those ideas actually, they spread "naturally", if one can use the word, culture to culture across the continent

Ancient Chinese were indeed inventors, but modern Chinese are not, modern Chinese just copy

the four inventions were learnt and applied to Europeans own means - European printers stopped with the woodblocks ages ago and didnt use Kanji

modern Chinese dont study technique and adopt it to their own means, they just look at the design and copy things that dont apply

[HDsharp]

@animesis

The ideas was copied from china, do you think we want other people taking our ideas without our consent..nah

In that case the same can be said about ideas curent chinese have copied, just becos you make up copy right laws dosent mean the ideas werent spread to china naturally through trade, right?

[animesis]

Respond to this video... ps you did have people traversing the globe seeing other cultures ideas, before a leader decided to put an end to Chinese glove trotting

I study Chinese History here in Asia

[animesis]

and the four great inventions notions was almost 400 years ago how about an updated version... Computers - electronic and mechanical, ie a difference engine Electricity - commercial, domestic , ie useful/ Engine - steam, petrol, diesel , jet Splitting the Atom The europeans designed a compass of their own so they are ok there before paper we used vellum so ok there too before gunpowder we used Incendiary devices printing we learnt from the Arabs who had their own and the chinese method

[HDsharp]

@animesis

Yes, we know about europe,s modern inventions, and credit is given where is due, but still, at the end of the day, europe's development was initially influenced by the chinese, its an undeniable fact... The compass we had was a workable concept copied by europeans, you can shout about up grades, but the concept is where is at.

[animesis]

@HDsharp

this has gone way off the point

Europeans have never denied China helped influence the west, thats why i mentioned the four great inventions -that was the west giving credit to China

however we dont completely rip off on Chinese work by copying a design that takes a lot money experience and reputation to build, like the BMW

Europeans didnt copy the Chinese compass They developed their own

China uses a 350 year old "four great" concept that is largely out of date hence the uptodate one

[HDsharp]

@animesis

Europeans developed their own style of a compass but the original concept of a compass was still original chinese. Historical inventions debate aside, yes admittedly the car shape rip off here is a bit obvious, but U know what, i've seen the smart car being ripped off by citroen too, its almost identical with a different badge. So other people R doing it too but not in the scale the chinese r doing it. What goes around comes around considering history but im not saying its right.

[HDsharp]

@animesis

And why is gold valuable? its only valuable If a society exist and if theres a demand for it. just like anything else.

[animesis]

@HDsharp

gold is valuable due to its rarity, most people dont care a huge deal about owning much gold, due to its rarity and past desire (and some use in all fairness) its become the standard, a common metal would be a poor standard because like paper money it can have no value asssociated to it without use and it lacks rarity

[animesis]

@HDsharp

we moved past gunpowder about a century ago

[animesis]

@HDsharp

can i add, Europe has a very temperate climate, China gets ALOT colder in winter AND ALOT hotter in summer

half the year its too hot the other half its too cold, europe has a decent constant

the west invented credit and the gold standard which is much more important

paper money and cheap metal coins are worthless when anything bad happens

[gutliyang82]

it is copy???

yes it is copy.four wheels two lamps.

it is only a car man!!!

[topgear215]

when will you people learn that it's the design of the car that the chinese copied and not the basic stuff that all cars have.

[gutliyang82]

All WORLD peoples need good and cheap cars.

chinese make dreem for all world peoples.

why not?

[topgear215]

a dream that will end once you crash with that poor quality and even if you don't crash, nobody will buy it not unless their super cheap and if it hasn't been copied off European cars, then they look hideous.

[gutliyang82]

Times Will tell you the question.

like Japanese.and koreans.

I don't care it is looks like BMW or OTHERS.

I care the motor,and safe.also price.

I belief Chinese car.

Chinese make spacecraft.but German Japanese can't make spacecraft.

[topgear215]

Oh no they can't. why would you say that the japanese and the germans can't make a spacecraft? they could definitely could if they were bothered to. and also, that means you must have no style what so ever.

[gutliyang82]

no style it is the best style.

look at the European cars.every one looks like very old.

we need change.

Chinese car give our change!!!!

[topgear215]

they don't look old. what are you talking about? chinese cars look hideous and the ones that don't look hideous were copied off of European cars or some from Europe designed them.

[TangoR34]

they can make but they didn't make for the sake of good using of money

[tomkkkkk]

1)Learn English

2) Learn to understand the time and money these companies put into designing the bodies you ignorant fucking retard.

3) I am not going to bother because you are so narrow minded and thick in the head.

[mifimofoo123]

1) Learn Enlgish - becuase that is the oONLY language u understand.

2) Learn to understand the time and money these companies put into designing the bodies you ignorant fucking retard - They have learned, they learned to copy and hope to improve.

3) I am not going to bother because you are so narrow minded and thick in the head. U suck cock for a living (stupid comment, deserves a stupid answer)

[911Gold911]

First Humans should not own any intellectual property. Intellectual should be free flow, this is BULL. If you cant compete them you should be out of business, this is competition not trying to monopoly the world of business.

[andyhwang2009]

@911Gold911 American Car makers except Ford and other Europe and Japan car makers copied from Ford .Any kids, Children can differentiate genuine cars and Chinese cars .

[andyhwang2009]

@gutliyang82 American Car makers except Ford and other Europe and Japan car makers copied from Ford . Any kids, Children can differentiate genuine cars and Chinese cars . I think they have eye problem  or eye disease if you can't differentiate them. They should discuss with their Eye doctors.

[SpeedingStudent]

@andyhwang2009 How about you blow me, Hwang?

Design your own fucking cars, cheater.

[DieGewerkschaft]

thanks for posting!