Jose has a good point. So much has been done with the character, and it's been so inconsistent, that it's hard to pin down the specifics of what WW is. We're not even sure exactly what her powers are. Maybe the next reboot will start with the most important essentials and build logically from there. ;P
@zcorp79 I think the issue we've both had lately was that Fraction's work is starting to take on the characteristics of his contemporaries. We see more decompression and writing for the trade in his work. It's understandable as to why it's happening, but that's not to say that we like it. Fraction is still one of my fave writers. Elliott
Hey, guys. Missed the show. Glad you're back. The Wondie thing isn't unique to her. They have a hard time with lots of characters...Hawkman...GL...Atom...Aquaman...Capt. Marvel..etc, etc, etc. The whole "why can't they write good female characters?" thing is just PC BS. Good writers do not have that problem. It's a banal cliche' that has no bearing in reality. Put a talented writer who respects the character on the book, problem solved. Thanks for tip the THUNDER AGENTS. I'll give it a try.
I agree with all of you on Power Girl and Zatanna. Both are consistently excellent. Add Birds Of Prey and Gotham City Sirens to that list and DC has a damn solid list of female character driven books. Wonder Woman continues to be an anomaly.
yay! my favorite duo is back! Great review boyz, i'm so feelin ya'lls pain on this WW BS. I want Gail back!! As yall know Power Girls my fave dc book..since the first issue, i was weary when the writers changed at issue 13 but i liked where they went w/ the character I'm aslo reading Zatanna and i was thinking about pickin up Wonder Girl issue 1, did ya'll take a look at it? Anywayz great nu show of the year and nice bomb ass music in the background Jose!
Great to see you guys back together again, been missing my weekly fix of CCW, although IMJ and GeekToMe has filled the void nicely. Love that you finally reviewed three of my favourite books, and all in one episode! Been reading Supergirl and Batgirl since issue 1 and jumped on Power Girl since picking up the first trade. I'm pretty sad that Sterling Gates is not writing Supergirl anymore but after reading #60 I'm looking forward to what is coming next. Great to see you guys back together
Batgirl and Supergirl have both been fantastic as of late but I agree that latest issues of both were the best thus far. Batgirl featured the best Damian story and depiction I have ever read in ANY book. I also agree that THUNDER Agents and Detective Comics are two of DC's strongest books at the moment. I'd also throw Action Comics in that list as well.
Couldn't agree more about WW. This week's issue was PAINFUL to read. I just want wonder woman to wake up from this nightmare and do anything else. It's so frustrating.
Hey guys, just want to say I'm new to your show (relatively, I didn't like you before, but now you are the ultimate authority). Thanks for spreading the TRUTH (via bashing/exposing of: Loeb, Bendis, Millar). There really is no one else talking about the decrepit decline of comics, and you two are doing all you can to display that truth. Thank you so much!!!
Just by talking, you've said things that I've said to fellow comic readers forever, but no one listens. Thanks. You've got another fan.
I think WonderWoman is the prime example of a character that has had all of her iconic elements removed or greatly marginalized. Steve Trevor, removed as a love interest/ major character. The invisible jet is now irrelevant because she can fly (though she may have lost that ability again in the JMS run). I'm of the opinion that you don't tamper to much with the truely iconic elements of major characters. People wouldn't dream of getting rid of Lois Lane(Superman) or the Batmobile(Batman),
Agreed Matew, They have tampered too much with Wonder WOman over the years that she is NOT the same character as she was. Would they do that with Batman or Superman? No, so why do it with her?
Congrads on the return E & J. I buy my WW, PG, Batgirl (in tpb), & Supergirl. I am hoping the next writer the JMS/Hester mess that it reset to a better w/a team that can get the job done.
hey guys, welcome back! and as always, great job reviewing the underdogs. i have to agree with you on Supergirl #60. I randomly read that issue and i totally get the Nick Spencer hype now because I actually enjoyed an issue of Supergirl.
too bad about WW though. Jose, I totally feel your frustration when a fav character of mine is mishandled.
That Batgirl issue really was amazing. Easily one of the DCU's best Female charachters right now, and quite possibly my favorite incarnation of Batgirl, and I really hope she STAYS as Batgirl for a while.
Good to see you guys back together. For a future topic suggestion, can you guys tell us if comic creators should stay off the internets? Recent incidents include Dan Slott swearing at fans and Jason Aaron saying f**k off to Alan Moore.
Nice, glad to have you both back! But after one month, I would have expected to see better looking outfit then a drab grey superman sweatshirt!! The Fox Hound doesn't look bad, but doesn't work well with the green long sleeve. Oh well, it's been a month, need time to recover :)
@tubernery Dude, I was pretty hung over. ;) You'll have to deal with my drab sweatshirt for the next 3 episodes. Hope you can make it through. :P Elliott
Jose has a good point. So much has been done with the character, and it's been so inconsistent, that it's hard to pin down the specifics of what WW is. We're not even sure exactly what her powers are. Maybe the next reboot will start with the most important essentials and build logically from there. ;P
cerberuspuppy 9 months ago
J did not know you had a problem with Fraction. I have really been enjoying his work on both Thor and Iron Man I think it is pretty solid stuff
zcorp79 1 year ago
@zcorp79 I think the issue we've both had lately was that Fraction's work is starting to take on the characteristics of his contemporaries. We see more decompression and writing for the trade in his work. It's understandable as to why it's happening, but that's not to say that we like it. Fraction is still one of my fave writers. Elliott
comicculturewarrior 1 year ago
I was checking back issues and J. Peaty did an issue of Supergirl 33 Nov '08.
llxkawi 1 year ago
I've been checking back again and again for aaaaaages for a new vid from you guys!
I listened to the IMJ podcasts but I can't get past insideman's accent (!!!) - and Elliot is the Ying to Jose's Yang, it's just Yang Yang there
But anyways, really glad you're back!
gregSCC 1 year ago
Thank you. Thank you.
theblakelvis 1 year ago
what do you guys think of heroclix? i think its really fun
awesomesauce1030 1 year ago
The audio makes it sound like they're 6 inches tall.
burlearth 1 year ago
I totally gazmed when I heard that Higurashi shriek. Welcome back, guys.
agmaster 1 year ago
Hey, guys. Missed the show. Glad you're back. The Wondie thing isn't unique to her. They have a hard time with lots of characters...Hawkman...GL...Atom...Aquaman...Capt. Marvel..etc, etc, etc. The whole "why can't they write good female characters?" thing is just PC BS. Good writers do not have that problem. It's a banal cliche' that has no bearing in reality. Put a talented writer who respects the character on the book, problem solved. Thanks for tip the THUNDER AGENTS. I'll give it a try.
Stepper11 1 year ago
don kramer told me at nycc that jms kept handing in the scripts late giving him only 2 weeks to draw the book so they have to split up the art chores
kurumais 1 year ago
batgirl is my current favorite book
kurumais 1 year ago
I agree with all of you on Power Girl and Zatanna. Both are consistently excellent. Add Birds Of Prey and Gotham City Sirens to that list and DC has a damn solid list of female character driven books. Wonder Woman continues to be an anomaly.
BENWONDER 1 year ago
yay! my favorite duo is back! Great review boyz, i'm so feelin ya'lls pain on this WW BS. I want Gail back!! As yall know Power Girls my fave dc book..since the first issue, i was weary when the writers changed at issue 13 but i liked where they went w/ the character I'm aslo reading Zatanna and i was thinking about pickin up Wonder Girl issue 1, did ya'll take a look at it? Anywayz great nu show of the year and nice bomb ass music in the background Jose!
jerriardo 1 year ago
It's about damn time! I missed you two knuckle-heads! Keep those videos coming, guys! BTW, Elliott, I wanted to know your opinion on the FF stunt.
Natewayde 1 year ago
@Natewayde Meh. Elliott
comicculturewarrior 1 year ago
Oh I forgot to add that you guys shunned my other favourite DC girl Zatanna! What do you guys think of her book?
renetetrault 1 year ago
Great to see you guys back together again, been missing my weekly fix of CCW, although IMJ and GeekToMe has filled the void nicely. Love that you finally reviewed three of my favourite books, and all in one episode! Been reading Supergirl and Batgirl since issue 1 and jumped on Power Girl since picking up the first trade. I'm pretty sad that Sterling Gates is not writing Supergirl anymore but after reading #60 I'm looking forward to what is coming next. Great to see you guys back together
renetetrault 1 year ago
Jose, that is a badass t-shirt.
TB492 1 year ago
I saw those issues today, I was thinking about actually getting them.
sai011 1 year ago
Batgirl and Supergirl have both been fantastic as of late but I agree that latest issues of both were the best thus far. Batgirl featured the best Damian story and depiction I have ever read in ANY book. I also agree that THUNDER Agents and Detective Comics are two of DC's strongest books at the moment. I'd also throw Action Comics in that list as well.
BENWONDER 1 year ago
Very much enjoy POWER GIRL. Got the new issue of Wonder Woman #606 and I have found a huge difference now and I see it going some where.
And Zatanna I put right up there with Power Girl.
nightwing01 1 year ago
You have forgotten of:
WONDER GIRL!!!!
1. - Donna Troy.
2. - Cassandra (Cassie) Sandsmark.
3. - Drusilla. Interpreted by Debra Winger in the Show TV "Wonder Woman".
WonderSisters 1 year ago
sweet! ive missed you guys, thanks for uploading another video. by the way, jose, love the tshirt
Hellride7 1 year ago
Couldn't agree more about WW. This week's issue was PAINFUL to read. I just want wonder woman to wake up from this nightmare and do anything else. It's so frustrating.
dangerfeild4Life 1 year ago
@dangerfeild4Life
Agreed. I dropped Wonder Woman months ago after 8 years of collecting her comics. It just isn't the same.
ChristianNYC 1 year ago
Nice having you guys back!
hobbo3003 1 year ago
Hey guys, just want to say I'm new to your show (relatively, I didn't like you before, but now you are the ultimate authority). Thanks for spreading the TRUTH (via bashing/exposing of: Loeb, Bendis, Millar). There really is no one else talking about the decrepit decline of comics, and you two are doing all you can to display that truth. Thank you so much!!!
Just by talking, you've said things that I've said to fellow comic readers forever, but no one listens. Thanks. You've got another fan.
shoosby 1 year ago
Nice to see all the love on the channel! Yes indeed, we are back. :) Elliott
comicculturewarrior 1 year ago
2 of my favorite people on Youtube are back. Let the good times roll!
Gokiza 1 year ago
Great T-Shirt Jose!!!!!!!!!
mesmeria74 1 year ago
I think WonderWoman is the prime example of a character that has had all of her iconic elements removed or greatly marginalized. Steve Trevor, removed as a love interest/ major character. The invisible jet is now irrelevant because she can fly (though she may have lost that ability again in the JMS run). I'm of the opinion that you don't tamper to much with the truely iconic elements of major characters. People wouldn't dream of getting rid of Lois Lane(Superman) or the Batmobile(Batman),
mathew101281 1 year ago 3
@mathew101281
Agreed Matew, They have tampered too much with Wonder WOman over the years that she is NOT the same character as she was. Would they do that with Batman or Superman? No, so why do it with her?
ChristianNYC 1 year ago
Foxhound!
drwdan19 1 year ago
i do love this show...expecially for the bitching and verbal violence
KroliggBloodhoof 1 year ago
love you both
esp elliott who is going though a hard time right now , but still gives us his time :)
thankyou xx
laussica 1 year ago
Good to see you guys back.
JohnixHD 1 year ago
Congrads on the return E & J. I buy my WW, PG, Batgirl (in tpb), & Supergirl. I am hoping the next writer the JMS/Hester mess that it reset to a better w/a team that can get the job done.
Looking fwd to Last Rants!
Matthew
mguy1977 1 year ago
Welcome back guys. Kick some ass in 2011!!
retromanpresents 1 year ago
I want that Foxhound T-Shirt
JimBootstrap 1 year ago
hey guys, welcome back! and as always, great job reviewing the underdogs. i have to agree with you on Supergirl #60. I randomly read that issue and i totally get the Nick Spencer hype now because I actually enjoyed an issue of Supergirl.
too bad about WW though. Jose, I totally feel your frustration when a fav character of mine is mishandled.
but ya, she really needs a brand new overhaul.
anyways, can't wait to see more!
Keep On Hating!!!
misanthropicmumlover 1 year ago
Batman is my fav. charachter, and I will GENERALLY support him no matter what but with Tony Daniel writing AND drawing it, no Thank-You.
Venom829 1 year ago
That Batgirl issue really was amazing. Easily one of the DCU's best Female charachters right now, and quite possibly my favorite incarnation of Batgirl, and I really hope she STAYS as Batgirl for a while.
Venom829 1 year ago
Good to see you guys back together. For a future topic suggestion, can you guys tell us if comic creators should stay off the internets? Recent incidents include Dan Slott swearing at fans and Jason Aaron saying f**k off to Alan Moore.
dawingster 1 year ago
Three Cheers for Back!
Welcome back fellas been too long
deemar325 1 year ago
Nice, glad to have you both back! But after one month, I would have expected to see better looking outfit then a drab grey superman sweatshirt!! The Fox Hound doesn't look bad, but doesn't work well with the green long sleeve. Oh well, it's been a month, need time to recover :)
tubernery 1 year ago
@tubernery Dude, I was pretty hung over. ;) You'll have to deal with my drab sweatshirt for the next 3 episodes. Hope you can make it through. :P Elliott
comicculturewarrior 1 year ago 2
@tubernery I wasn't aware this was a fucking fashion show.
J.
comicculturewarrior 1 year ago 7
@comicculturewarrior J ur fuckin funny
jerriardo 1 year ago
i must say the new superman/batman issue was amazing...just throwin it out there...
generaldark 1 year ago
wow this is a nice surprise :)
generaldark 1 year ago
kirk and spock back together yeah.
dvid22 1 year ago
@dvid22 Which one is Kirk neither gets laid. ;-)
deemar325 1 year ago
@deemar325 elliot is kirk and or shatner.
dvid22 1 year ago
WOOHOOO ive been waiting soooo long its truly to see you back in action guys, we really missed you.
C4RL0Z479 1 year ago