Robert Hughes - American Visions - 8th episode, part 4 of 5

[vkap77]

koons is the worst...

[EATshitanddrinkbleac]

koons is outdated.

[downeybill]

i can't help but notice that Rothenburg and her work are just as absurd as Koons, and at least his junk is well crafted by real artisans. Bambi eyes, spiritual? Yellow, the color of death? What a joke the whole thing is

[misternylon]

I love the work but hate Koons, I both love and hate in equal measure and I wish I did neither, but the fact remains, once a commodities broker, always a commodities broker.

Great 'director' of art, annoying, beguiling, smug and clever but NOT spiritual.

[GAP120GAP]

Bambi spiritual... "Evidently supreme" in comparison to the spiritualism deeply rooted in Gaudí's work.

[melissacarterTS]

Hughes on Fischl: "His suburbs smell of hot vinyl, sperm and barbecue fluid." Hey Robert, how many Gin & Tonics did you kick back to come up with that one?

[melissacarterTS]

Susan Rothenberg: "Yellow is the color of death." LOL, where does she come up with this stuff? OK susan, thanks for that lesson in color and philosophy.

[melissacarterTS]

Listening to Koons in his suit and tie, I can't help imagining what he'd be like in cell block D.

[jaggerlags]

@melissacarterTS Ha! Your three posts from nearly a year ago made me laugh but why so much resentment? Maybe you don't care enough to explain to this fool, but it's not all horrible, they're just people who have the means to carry it out. Wish I could, however different the vision.

[melissacarterTS]

@jaggerlags It's healthy to resent the succesful. But most likely its my arrogance, my birthright, I just can't respect people who pontificate and bless us with their brilliant insight. I just can't help it, I smell a lie a mile away. And they're all lies; nothing Hughes has ever said was without his own overblown ego. He's like Newt Gingrich, he simply can''t get past himself.

[jaggerlags]

@melissacarterTS His ego is unquestionable but I don't see lies, just another opinion in a sea of opinion shoring up to art every day. Newt couldn't love inanimate objects like Hughes unless dead presidents were printed on them.

[SoulEaterEthan]

Robert Hughes is shit. Sorry, we all know it's true. It's as my professor's always say, "Art critics are just failed artists who hate everything because they're failures." I like Koons. I always have, ever since I first saw his work. Who has the gall to say what art is good or bad? And is there any real point to criticism? It's not like it's going to make Koons any less successful..

[jaggerlags]

@SoulEaterEthan I've heard people say the same for professors. I don't know it's true for me Hughes is shit. I like Koons enough to know what you mean, and don't always like Hughes, but I enjoyed this series. Most of these are more worth watching than not. I'd say there's definitely a point to art criticism. I wish there was more stuff like this on tv everyday! I've been an artist for some time and don't take these things that personally! Relax, Koons will be fine like you said.

[ridewave444]

That Koon guy sucks. WEAK stuff. A true exploiter.

[carsanookdotcom]

Koons is a commercial artist, par excellence!. 'Spiritual' artist Bobby Hughes calls him. "Art for arts sake money for God's sake" Who said that?

Dr John Sanookcar

Kingdom of Thailand

[IzzyIsou]

@carsanookdotcom "If you want to know what God thinks of money, just look at the people he gave it to." --  Dorothy Parker

[Asiosky211]

koons talks like a salesman

[chandru1103]

Robert Hughes is the Sean Hannity of art critique.

[number12stunna]

@chandru1103 Yeah. And you are the Michael Jackson of YouTube commenting.

[chandru1103]

@number12stunna If you mean I am consistently getting hits to add to my collection for a successful “best of” CD, then yes. I can see that. Haha.

[IzzyIsou]

All money and no vision makes Jeffy a dull artist.

[ArchhereticK]

Koons is asking questions on Kitsch, the answers are wrong because he phrases them wrong, much the same way as Duchamp's urinal was appreciated for its aesthetics in the 30s.

[MoycullenBoyo]

generous? How does anyone with this much hubris give anything away?

[IzzyIsou]

What bullshit. The only things artists like Koons, Hirst and Prince will be know for in the future is for being making lots of money and producing crap.

[chandru1103]

wrongo buddy...there are enough collectors to keep it culturally significant for many decades to come. What is good is not always exclusively what is "right." Art is a commodity like any other nothing more, nothing less.

[IzzyIsou]

@chandru1103 Actually, "buddy", when it comes to art, it's not the collectors that keep it culturally significant, but the academics and future artists. There can be tons of rich assclowns collecting Koons, but does it mean it's culturally relevant? I think not.

[chandru1103]

It really does. There is a synergy there, but WHO collects your work has a lot to do with whether you become culturally relevant in the future. A big for instance is Andy Warhol. He had the innovative vision, yes. But had he not made friends with the upper crusts of society he would have been less important on the cultural landscape. My question is if Koons/ Hirst weren't raking in millions for their work would they be better artists in your eyes?.....I think they would be. Money is just Money.

[IzzyIsou]

@chandru1103 Actually no. My point is that they're awful artists (yes, I know it's subjective, and therefore I'm opining subjectively). They would just be awful poor artists. But on top of their art being awful, they're also rich. Modern life is guilty of hubris.

[jaggerlags]

@chandru1103 It's more than a commodity. Or else why were you watching a video on art? Might as well watch a video on wheat distribution throughout the country, or the rate freezes on soy so as to stabilize a market. See? It's more than commodity- at least to me and I'm proud to say it.

[chandru1103]

@jaggerlags It is more than a commodity, it is a glamourous commodity....that makes all the difference as to why people care. 

[jaggerlags]

@chandru1103 You're right! It is glamourous, and much much more too!

[chandru1103]

@jaggerlags I'm sure it was at some time through history. But were living post-Reagan its all about glamourous commodity. And the ritual of buying.

[jaggerlags]

@chandru1103 I'm gonna have to disagree once and for all. Whether or not you think it's just the ritual of buying or just commodity or post reagan glamor I think personally art does add up to more, even today. There are other types of art, you must know this. It's bigger than popular auctions or sales.

[ernieernie]

@IzzyIsou

He's a bond trader after all....

[anikinippon]

@IzzyIsou Take that back, at least Prince came out with "Pussy Contol" I agree with the rest though :P

[IzzyIsou]

@anikinippon I was referring to Richard Prince. Shiiiiit, Prince the musician is a better artist than all these guys put together. : P

[anikinippon]

@IzzyIsou Mybad! XD hahahahahah

[IzzyIsou]

@anikinippon Hey, you're right on, "Pussy Control" is great! : P

[graphichic]

I hate Koons' work. It's retarded.

[calebengler]

Great content. Terrible music score.