Shannon Miller - 1996 Olympics Team Compulsories - Floor Exercise

[mortella23]

:55 pause there, her split in her back extension roll looks almost unatrual, but so beautiful, kind of reminds me of nastia!

[indorican648]

I personally wish they'd bring back compulsories, but even without them, I still think the gymnasts of today could incorporate more dance into their floor exercises. It seems like nowadays it's just tumbling pass, pose, pose, leap, tumbling pass, leap, turn, pose, pose - instead of actual choreography. In the compulsories there was attitude, chaine, tour jete, arabesque, etc. I wish floor routines were still choreographed this way.

[Stonymypony]

How did they have time to learn the compulsories routines and still practice their own routines?

[TikiBoy382]

WOW...Shannon is just so breath taking with her Gymnastics!! WOW!!

[jojo1802]

Wow - Strug scored higher than this???

[jamesbug2002]

her moves are in tune with the music...purrrrfffeeect!

[gymnasticsloverxoxo]

She really tried to present herself here but it felt so forced.

[stickitupyourasteric]

@gymnasticsloverxoxo a head down get it done determination good but not connecting with the 3rd element harmony. Lilia has head up determination, she is fluid and the master, as if the music is hers along with the audience.

[gymnasticsloverxoxo]

@stickitupyourasteric That was a really lovely comment, beautiful, I agree Lilia really had everything all together.

[MrPontiusPilate]

pathetic

[missmouse35]

i miss the good ole days of the perfect 10 scoring system, now gymnastics is all about difficulty and who can have the highest start value, not about wowing the judges and the audience with originality and flare

[luv4cookie1]

How did strug's preformance get a higher score then this this had to be the best floor set of the day well except for podkopayeva

[htownhomie06]

actually, wasn't strug's 9.825 the highest of the event? podkopayeva had a 9.812 if i recall correctly.

[gymnasticsloverxoxo]

@htownhomie06 Podkopayeva got the highest score, a 9.850.

[htownhomie06]

@gymnasticsloverxoxo actually, no, strug's 9.825 was highest of the compulsory round on this event. podkopayeva had the misfortune of competing in an earlier session. the scores are available online if you'd like to see for yourself.

[gymnasticsloverxoxo]

@htownhomie06 No, I am sorry but you are wrong. Look at the comments of Pod's floor exercise or watch the team compulsory sections of these Olympics (its on youtube), her score is a 9.850, I am 100% positive. STrug did get a 9.825.

[htownhomie06]

@gymnasticsloverxoxo i stand corrected. so wonder what it would've been in a later session?

[gymnasticsloverxoxo]

@htownhomie06 Good question, not sure. Its pretty amazing that tourischeva actually gave her a 9.900.

[gymnasticsloverxoxo]

@htownhomie06 I posted on your wall the video of the section of the compulsories which shows her routine and her score.

[iloveyourstory]

Must they all do the same first tumbling pass?

[boytoyville]

What did this score?

[grafgirl27]

@boytoyville 9.787. The 3rd highest compulsory floor score of the day behind Podkopayeva 9.850 and Strug 9.825.

[TikiBoy382]

Shannon performed Floor Compulsories perfectly, so beautiful, she's breath taking! I always wondered why she didn't make floor finales in the 96' Olympics...did she qualify? or am I just tripping? LOL If she didn't, I don't see how she couldn't have! LOL

[1andonlyCobra]

She had a major error in team finals and that score combined with this one wasnt high enough. Keep in mind, Moceanu and Strug both qualified and Dawes was first alternate for Floor final.

[dancingRJ]

She had a REALLY weak double "layout". I always wondered why Steve didn't figure out a better pass, though I know they needed bonus. That was absolutely the wrong skill for her.

[luv4cookie1]

@dancingRJ it wasen't she had a bad hamstring injury and she could pike without hurting and before her wrist injury she was doing them fine, and she had plenty of power until she had her wrist injury and she could barley grip a bar it's amazing she made it to the olympics and walked out in grand style she had a serious injury

[MrPontiusPilate]

amateur

[moopoo66]

@MrPontiusPilate it's a compulsory routine they're supposed to do basic skills, she's not an amateur, and i would LOVE to see YOU make it to the olympics!

[gymnasticsloverxoxo]

I love how she ends the first pass! Its so unique, nobody did it like that.

[htownhomie06]

it's odd 2 me they said they eliminated compulsories b/c crowds thought they were boring 2 watch. but watching a set like this 300 times, a miller or dawes or milosovici or podkopayeva, all doing the same exercise gives even the most ignorant observer the chance 2 see what makes the best the best.

[tomsk14]

and also, I think whoever invents these compulsories is a bit of a genius, as every olympics from like 1980 - 1996 has the most beautifull choreographed and wonderful compulsory floor routines.

ALTHOUGH, when I was a teenager doing gymnastics I thought compulsories were boring..... Now I understand more, I see how wonderful they were.

[twilliger123]

totally agree, now it's circus gymnastics with horrible technique and little to no dance for most gymnasts. I miss compulsories!

[jamesbug2002]

I second the motion! Gymnastics today, is like..whoever does the most daredevil acrobatic skill and whoever does the craziest stunt will win! ugh! I think the compulsories will certainly level the playing field..haha..by weeding out the ones who have bad technique from the ones who are elegant..now, with that, gymnasts today, will make sure they have a good combination of dance, elegance and power...i wonder how shawn johnson would fare if compulsories was part of 2008..hmmm, any thoughts, guys?

[twilliger123]

I guess we'll never know because we don't see enough of shawn's dance ability, etc to really know for sure. She's does have excellent technique so that is certainly in her favor.

[gymfan82]

Her flexabilty is her weakness and that would kill her in the compulsories. She presents herself well but if you can't hit the splits you wouldn't score well.

[hjaidar]

@gymfan82 you're absolutely right about that. Don't know why a prime gymnast like her didn't work to improve that. She never had flexibility, even younger

[gymnasticsloverxoxo]

@gymfan82 You are correct. I am glad I am not the only one who sees that. She always came about 1" from hitting her splits but was never deducted for it. I feel like her flexibility was better when she was young though.

[dancingRJ]

It is very difficult to say, but the elite girls DO do compulsories, we just never see them. It is part of the developmental process in the US. I'm sure if there had been compulsories, Shawn would have had her flexibility worked on. We've always had explosive athletes with weak basic skills that have done well.  Dawes had some pretty big technique errors for a long time, but her power and charisma helped balance that out.

[dancingRJ]

They really eliminated compulsories to allow more countries to participate at the highest levels. Since their removal, "smaller" countries have been able to spend their training time learning the big tricks to compete at the highest level. I don't particularly agree---look at the current state of our sport. Still, it is nice to see other countries able to showcase their best athletes on their strongest events.

I do miss seeing fundamentals done to their "model" amplitude and technique.

[willsbob123]

Did the gymnast's from the 1996 games qualify from team ops to EF??? Why compulsaries, what do they do!??

[dancingRJ]

Finals was the combination of compulsories plus optionals. Compulsories were used to separate athletes by forcing them to show "basic" skills performed to the highest technique. For example the first tumbling pass has only A and B level skills. The difficulty is in demonstrating height and acceleration, tightness of body, clean lines, pointed toes, straight legs, twist at the top of the salto, etc.

[jamesbug2002]

can you explain what you mean by other countries, smaller, being able to join the highest level?

[dancingRJ]

The problem with compulsories is that they take a great deal of time and resources to perfect. A major reason for their elimination was to allow countries with fewer resources the opportunity to spend those resources on developing the more advanced skills necessary to compete at the highest optional levels. Since the elimination of compulsories, more athletes from a wider variety of countries have been able to be competitive.

[willsbob123]

I would have scored this routine: 9.900.

[Imaginary114]

WOW...each and every one of her moves seems to exquisitely flow right into the next...AMAZING...

[diskplaying]

I love her gymnastics but this routine less so. She seems a little anxious and she is dancing too fast to this classical music, maybe due to nerves. Still a good performance but not great. Personally I found her score quite high. I think her teammates Borden and Dawes did a better routine here.

[darthmira]

She is actually a bit behind the music, as she ends just a bit later than the music. I thought she did wonderful. Borden wouldn't have scored higher unless Shannon had a huge mistake - the whole setup of the team depends on the first person, and they rarely get a big score, no matter what. Too bad, Borden hit soo well.

[moopoo66]

@darthmira actually they're is a quiet bong of the drums after the DUN, at the end, so she wasen't behind

[audie83]

Dawes was powerful in her tumbling but I don't think she was polished enough in her form, toe-point, extension etc. to score higher than Shannon. Amanda had nice form but she lacked that star quality that might have put her later in the lineup. jmo.

[laurendee21]

What song was this? Was it something from Swan Lake?

[gymfan82]

You think Dawes and Borden presented this routine better then Shannon? Are you serious? Shannon was 20 times better then any Mag 7 member in all 4 compulsories routines except maybe Strug's explosiveness on vault but even then Miller's techinque and form were better then her's

[dancingRJ]

I actually happen to like Borden's floor. Plus she was well regarded in the international community, which is why she still scored a 9.7+ (only .065 behind Miller). I'm not saying she was better, just that I happened to like her presentation. Miller's was much more technically correct.

[moopoo66]

@diskplaying im sorry but, your wrong, it's a fast pace music, even though it's classical, and if you think dawes or borden preformed this better..? Then they're has to be something wrong with your eye sight! She wasen't anxious everyone preformed it this fast, because once again this is a fast pace dance, most compulsory routines are, to see your ability to flow with the music, and dawes and borden's form was so bad during these routines, it's impossible for them to suceed in compulsories

[hankm77]

What was her score for this. and how did her score rank?

[yngtxtopbear]

Agreed!  I hate John Tesh! But I love Shannon Miller!

[eMthegymnast]

why does it seem like gymnastics was so much cleaner back then. i think that would be the only reason theyd bring compulseries back.

[eMthegymnast]

watch this with dominique moceanus and pause domies at:3 and pause shanons at :4 tthen press play on shannons first then pres play on domies. watch how diff they are. make surre its compulsories. makesure its this users vid of dom.

[saltlakecity2002]

Me too. Tesh is a douche.

[AntoineWalkerFan]

I don't miss John Tesh at all.lol

[eMthegymnast]

why do they rebound out of all their passes?