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  • Mesa Boogie Dual sounded deep, rich and musical to me.

  • ahhhh i love the dual rec sound, whoops all the others ass imo

  • heh nice, Suicidal Tendencies. hey, my setup is almost the same, Mesa Boogie Simul class 295 stereo, JMP-1 and power conditioner, Carvin 400 watt cab.

  • ada mp1 4 all the life!!!!!!!!

  • Suicidal Tendencies!!!

  • Nice toys

  • Very helpful indeed! By the way, where are those riffs from? Manilla Road maybe?

  • nice rack men

  • I have an ada mp1.....whats this about a 3 tube mod?? first ive heard lol

  • suicidal for life

  • Has anyone done a shoot between Dimarzio Super Distortion and Seymour Duncan Duncan Distortion? Or at least has thoughts, opinions on which is better?

  • i have a drop sonic in my prs. i kno its not the super distortion but the drop sonic is an amazing pickup. i highly recommend dimarzio pickups. especially the drop sonic. what are you wanting to put it in?

  • duncan is more aggressive.

  • I've owned both in multiple guitars. The Duncan Distortion is WAY better. Don't waste your time with the Super. Good luck!!

  • Would it be a waste of money to have a TC electronic G major 2 and a Korg DTR-2000 tuner in the same rack ?

  • I do. and wonder the same thing. (DTR-1 tho).

  • @day2daygrindin Not at all, I see guys standing right next to there rigs squinting at there G major with a look of pure death on there faces. If you'r going to be standing a good 4+ meters away, It's a good investment.

  • @day2daygrindin No because later in the runnn youll will reallly need them. I have the G sharp unit and ist stuck to my side for life.lol

  • @day2daygrindin I had that in my rig and loved it. The Korg is sooooo easy to use, and its fast as well. I say it's well worth it.

  • Can you use a Triaxis and JMP-1 running off 1 Marshall 9200 power amp ?

  • Yes.

    Ch.1/A can be Triaxis, Ch.2/B can be JMP-1.

    or anything else you want.

    but you will need to figure out the cab situation. Basically like having to separate amps.

  • All of them sounded pretty bad because of the recording, but the JMP-1 seemed like it may have had the fullest/most articulate sound out of the amps used.

  • Your Demo does not do justice to all of the cabs and rack effects. Get a real condense mic and record it properly for a real demo. All of them sound thin and sucky but it is not the case if you record it properly.

  • They all sound a bit thin but I'd Imagine that's because of the recording process or mic used.

  • I vote on the ADA 3TM (8:13) as the best sounding and the Mesa Dual Rectifier (6:34) a close second.

  • @slowpokezzz second that.

  • i want mesa so bad but its one of the most expensive brands here fuck

  • dude same im gettin a triaxis with the simul class 290

  • where do you get a triaxis from?

  • Mesa? A Store? Ebay? Craigslist?

    ??

  • i cant get a price on a new one anywhere. what do they cost new?

  • I think peavey rockmaster is missing in this demo?

  • Can you run the JMP-1 and the MP-1 simultaneously through the Mesa 2:90. Panned left/right. I'm trying to set something like this up and wondering if its gonna work and what I will need to do it. Any info would be appreciated.

  • was that song on the peavey suicidal tendencies? i love that song and havent heard in it forever

  • i think the mac's built-in microphone is greatly coloring the actual sound.

  • That's nice and all, but I'd like to hear these compared to the CAE 3+SE preamp.

  • they all might sound better if the mids werent scooped :(

  • That may have had more to do with the Rectifier standard Cab I used to have.

    Everything sounded scooped with it. I got tired of it sucking out the mids, (which sounded good for heavy stuff, but made things a little muddy), and got the Traditional cab.

  • I prefer JMP1 and MP1 but I think a stereo usage like JMP1 left and Triaxis Right... make an awesome sound

  • @visualdistortion yeah im a huge fan of blending tones from different brands like that

  • what exactly does a rectifier do. is it just really heavy distortion.

  • i recomend recording these with a microphone rather than a standard digital camera mic. actually makes the tone very realistic to what it should be

  • The JMP-1 sounds fuckin rad.

  • is it jmp-1 usage same as triaxis?

  • not sure what you mean, but they are both PreAmps, that need a Power Amp to make their tone.

  • stiletto vs. lone star, what the are the big differences??

  • uhm... dont u dial in the tone through the preamp???

  • or i will run straight thru the screamer, it depends on the gig and how big the room is, if its a massive room I would use my triple rectifier, but as the screamer can easily keep up with (and out scream any marshall 100W+ amp, its an amazingly powerful little baby), its versatile and light enough to keep me happy. I know guys who have 30K racks, but their sound is like poo. Its a case of each to their own, which is what Iove about all musicians, we are after all the best humans! Peace All!

  • Depending on your style of music, either is good. Tonally in my opinion direct into your amp will always win the war, the triaxis simply allows you greater access to more combinations of clean / dirty settings. Until recently I ran my TRI thru a mesa nomad 100 with a marshall jfx1, coupled with some stomp boxes, most guitar players only use a handful of settings in a live situation anyway. I now alternate between running the TRI thru an engl 50 screamer combo...continued below

  • hm..what's a better preamp a triaxis or a dual rectifier? i cant make up my mind DX

  • honestly, i think mesa amps are really over priced for what they are and they all have a really tinny mid-range you can never seem to EQ out. If you haven't bought either yet i would encourage you to look into either Peavy (XXX or JSX) or MArshall ( JCM2000 DSL, the TSL sounds like ass compared to the DSL's) or if you can track one down and have the loot, find the Framus Dragon heads, they sound like god in an amp but they will cost you about double a mesa.

  • You're comparing Peavys to Mesas?? Look at all the switching/channel/rectifier opotions you have with the rectifier series - endless tonal options. The amps you mention are one trick ponies. And if you actually like a scooped mid sound, maybe you should try some nice solid state amps.

  • The Dual Rectifier isn't a preamp so the Triaxis wins by default.

  • nice rig bro1

  • Nice gear I play Mesa stuff also.

  • imagine jmp1 and mesa 290 on one side, and the dual rectifier on the other in a stereo setup-- and to the guy who made this, you should try that setup !i run a jmp1 into a mesa stilletto, and a dual rect, the three channel one onthe other side, it kicks ass. Marshalls screaming sound, with that low end mesa sound.

  • you think the 2:90 instead of the el34 100/100?

    and why push the jmp-1 into the stiletto? seems overkill since the stiletto is already the marshall/mesa sound?

  • i have an mp1 too, do you think tat the 3tube mod is really worth? it's really complicate for me, as i'm in argentina

    thanks

  • The stiletto sounded better than the S.T. tone on the album (the rest sounded awesome too). What mode was that on the stiletto?

  • actually, the Deuce II sounds better to me.

    I had another video up but they took it down due to copyright issues (i guess the Ramones didnt like my playing).

    This video is very harsh, and one of these days I will re-record everything.

  • sounds too compressed for me. But still sounds hella good.

  • Suicidal rules man ST!!!

  • Dude how can you afford 3 mesa amps and a ibanez guitar but have no mike?

    A shure SM57 costs 100 bucks, cmooon.

  • I posted it before, and i am sure i will post it again. I recorded another video, this time with a mic.

    maybe you should check that one out.

    ya think?

  • the ADA sounds awesome

  • Quite a collection you have there...

  • The ADA MP-1 3TM wins pretty easily; Mesa Dual Rectifier comes in second. I love the MP-1, and you really have me thinking about getting the 3TM mod -- sounds to me like it retains the MP-1's delicious crunch but delivers improved clarity.

    Not sure you gave the Marshall JMP-1 a fair shot... it was really weak in the bass, and I know it can do better with some knob-twisting.

    Lusting after your TC G-Force! Nice gear!

  • I have the 3TM mod and I strongly recommend it. There isn't a preamp, new or old that can touch the MP-1. I think the JMP-1 blows.

  • Although I had issues with some of the EQ settings, the ADA MP-1 sounded much better than the rest. More crunch, tight lows and lot of definition. ADA wins!!!

  • im about to get my mesa dual rectifier this is my first tube head ive been playing for about 5 years

    the only thing im realy wondering is where exactly do i hook my rack system up to

    if you tell me how you did yours it would be appreciated thanks

  • im about to get my mesa dual rectifier and im just wondering where exactly to hook my rack system to on it

    if you could tell me how you did yours it be appreciated

    this is my first tube head so im kinda of new to it all at the moment

  • Which effects,and units??I run my entire rig through the effects loop for the most part.

  • yea i tried doing that but the mesa i have is an older model and the effect loop seems alittle weird. If i was to put the sonic maximizer through main input will that effect the sound at all?

  • I have an older model mesa dual rec head.

    How do i set up a sonic maximizer and an effect prosseser to it?

  • use the Effects Loop. SEND to your pedals/processors, out from them to RETURN. Turn Loop ON to whichever setting you want (mine has a dial, not the recto in this video...mine is #112).

  • today... today... today... how will I laugh tomorrow, when I can even smile... one of my favorite tunes.

  • what kind of rack case is that?

  • SKB

  • hey the distortion sound you are using on the video is from the tc electronic g force???

  • NO. nothing in this comparison went through the G-force except for the Triaxis, and it was only set on a noise gate i think.

    all distortion sounds come from each individual amp.

  • the tone sounds like it comes from a headphone or something. I didnt like any of them but i dont know why

  • Once again, see my other video! it is the same all Mic'ed up!

  • please, use a mike for recording!!! the stiletto i a GREAT amp, in this vid it sounds weak!

  • Please see my other Video...all recorded with Mic's!

  • can you tell me what's on top of the jmp-1 ? thanks

  • T.C. Electronic G-Force Effects Unit. Just a note, Please see my other video where I have recorded all the same amps (except the recto, which is a different one), but this time using a mic, and then layering them all together at the end! All these amps at the same time!!

  • plug a tube screamer into that and it would be even better than it already is!!

    sick tone and vid

  • Good playing, nice tone! Thanks for sharing.

  • the ada sounds like a beast by the way

  • suicidal!!!!!

  • Hay Man thanx for the Demo I have a JMP-1 but wanted to know how the Triaxis sounds and Fuckin' A it rocks the sox off the Marshall

  • Marshall all the way-MJ \../

  • Marshall = the win!

  • Well, it took quite awhile, but I finally got around to recording a new video, using all the amps, and mic'ing a cab and all that. Please see my other video for a comparison between all the amps and then all of them all TOGETHER!!

  • ADA sounds so crazy awesome.

  • my favorite is the mesa boogie dual rectifier.

  • Thank you!!

  • How much did the TriAxis and the 2:90 together cost? I want them....but they seem hella expensive.

  • I bought the Triaxis and G-Force together for $1600.00 The 2:90 i got from a store having a blowout sale for...

    get this...

    $75.

    it was mismarked, who was I to say different?

    ;)

  • Wow....

  • how much did this whole rig cost? I bet around $7000 or $8000

  • Have there been any mods done to your rectifier? I've been debating between a rect/jcm800/5150 for awhile now, I like the sound of your mesa.

  • No mods. and I sold it. Bought the Stiletto instead.

  • Hey what is the ADA MP-1 3TM mod? did you mod your dual rect. with new tubes? i like that sound the best obviously, thanks man you rock!

  • The Stiletto sounds really thin... Maybe it's just the mic, cause I've heard they usually sound really good.

  • true, however, i have found this true of the ACE combo. shortly after making this video, i decided to sell the ACE and buy a DEUCE Stage II (see my other video for that amp) and that has become my main amp for everything nowadays.

    Before purchase i called Mesa and asked about differences, and they told me the Deuce would get more LOW END and the transformers are different, which cause the obvious difference in the tones. ACE has better Tone, but Deuce was more favorable because of the low end.

  • can a midi footpedal save the settings of the preamp and the power amp in one channel? like if you had different amp settings on the marshall combinded with different settings on your phantom...

  • The "Phantom" as you are referring to it as, is a T.C. Electronic G-Force Effects Unit. I programmed it to scroll my bands name is all. To answer your question, YES, a Midi controller can be programmed to change patches on a Preamp (like the Triaxis or JMP-1), AND also the effects patch as well (depends on the units and how they are programmed).

    it gets complicated, but it can be done.

  • honestly, i have been trying to decide between getting a JMP1 or Triaxis and this video compared the two side by side which helped me pick one (Triaxis). Thanks!

  • Why are you getting 2 stars, your tone kicks ass. Some people are tone deaf

  • Opposite of many other opinions I think that it is a very great video (I'm very positive today). Why have I gave it 5? Here is a man who is not a pofessional but he takes his time and shares his experiences, gives us a chance to hear such "legends" one by one with the same guitar. Yes of course a laptop's built in microphone cannot make magic but the main differences are audible. Respect and thanks mightywarlock, keep on rockin'!

  • nice gear dude, whats underneath your triaxis in the rack?

  • Mesa 2:90

  • Dude suicidal tendencies kicks ass. It seems like a lot of people want you to make this video. You should try to get Rocky's leads down when you remake it, people won't even care what the amps sound like. People will love the shred . But nice set up I have a triple recto I love it. keep rockin

  • good quality sound

  • amm...this was not the best demonstration IMO.you did not play one solo lick it was all rhythm.demonstration is 1 dimensional..still triaxis wins of course:D but you are using it on LD2 yellow mode..it is a mark IIC+..the best channel on TA for solo guitar..and you did not play anything else than 1 rhythm section.I also have TA, but your rack is awesome!!larger than mine!it's all cool,just make another more usefull demo video:)

  • I am mainly a rhythm player. But I will see what I can do. I no longer have the Dual Recto, however. Sold the Ace, bought Deuce II.

  • Are you using the triaxis and marshall at the same time?

  • no. each preamp or amp was independent. and really needs to be recorded again.  really, i will get to it soon...one of these days...

  • i like that riffs

  • hmm you've got some cool stuff, I never messed around with rack mounted things myself and dont know what I'm looking at. I have a mesa lonestar though and it keeps me happy

  • when i can't even smile today...

  • dang dude, you have nice stuff, you just need to work on dialing in settings, and might i suggest a tube screamer to give that extra edge to your gear, the stilleto could use it, and maybe the triaxis, i wanted to ask what rack tuner you use and how are you liking it?

  • I think its the Korg DTR-1 which is an older model, basicly the DTR-2000 now... check out the DTR-1000.. you can get em pretty cheap on Ebay

  • The tuner is a DTR-1. never seen a need to ever replace it.

    and he asked about below, now above.

    i really need to redo this soon...

    50,000 people have seen this crapola recording...

    i should redo it right!

  • I wouldnt worry about it mate, its not that bad, i only looked at it to judge what sort of sound you can get from an MP1.. i already have a triaxis and was looking at using the MP1 in my rig somehow.. probably have to have some miraculous switching system set up to use em both live though

  • The triaxis is used with the Lead 2 Yellow channel....The sound of this channel is not great for metal\rock use!he might be use the lead 1 Red with The deep and modern voice of the 2:90!!!.....KILLER!!!! ;)

  • Lead 2 Yellow not good for Rock and Metal... WHAT?!?!?!?!?!?! That's the Mark IIc+ mode, which is one of THE BEST amps to use for rock and metal... or maybe John Petrucci and James Hetfield are just wrong. I used that mode on the Triaxis more than any other. Lead 1 Red is too farty and buzzy.

  • if you use a gibson les paul you'll hear the real sound of the pre's try whit a fender too! the ibanez has a very mid sound the fender has some many more colors and the les is ROCK!

  • a 100W Marshall and a Boss DS-1 is all a rocker need to sound good

  • uh ds-1's suck. you want real tone you need to invest in a tube amp and crank that sucker up

  • You should record your sounds with a real mic...

  • The Stilleto sounded good for a kind of AC/DC sound.

    The Triaxas had a horrible sound on the low pedals.

    The Marshall has a nice 80s metal Randy Rhodes kind of sound to it.

    The dual rectifier sounds very good and would awesome for anything but madly distorted sounds (which you don't really want ;D)

    The ADA was a bit tinny for overly distorted for my tastes, but it'd be good for some murderous metal. XD

    Sum up:Favourites in order

    dual rectifier

    marshall

    stilleto

    The others were kind of 'meh'

  • Marshall was the best sound for this song But dual rec is close

  • Mesa Dual - low sounds - The best

    Marshall - meddium sounds - Great

    Others - too high sounds - i don't like it...

    ;]

    Nice man, please trie with a Gibson guitar...

    if you do, send a msg please...

    Tks!

  • i know i know.

    i need to re-record everything.

    i no longer have the Dual Recto tho...i thought the Triaxis was close enough...and sold the Ace, for a Deuce II...which isnt as harsh at all as Ace. hence, why i sold the ace.

  • God, got enough gear brotha? Sell it all and get a diezel VH4!

  • i tried one.

    didn't like it compared to the Einstein.

    but the Diezels are a little too "processed" sounding to me.

    I was thinking Engl for a while, but i often feel the Engl powerball doesn't cut through the mix well. maybe the SE...

    got a Stiletto Deuce II and all is well now.

  • Haha, What's your proffesion man? Do you think the Dual recto head would do Tool?

  • My Laney kills.

  • mesa sounds better... your marshall sound is too saturated...

  • i liked the triaxis and dual rectifier, but i think the stiletto was crap "/

  • The JMP-1 sounded the best. Im not a marshall fan either. I own an MP-1, but it doesn't sound like yours (I like mine better, but it could be the recording mic-mine also does not have the 3 tube mod.)

  • I liked the Marshall the best. Sounded the cleanest.

  • dude you need only one thing.MARSHALL JCM 2000

  • fuk marshall MESA FTW

  • Cool demo, i like the fact you keep playing the same riff so that i can really hear the differences, i like the marshall best :)

  • maybe shorter clips should do fine

  • Try tweaking your amp. Way too much TREBLE!

  • Ha "song ruined for this comparison"

  • All these amps deserve a true mic. Anyway no comparison is possible if you do not mic all the amps on the same cabinet with the mic on the same position.

    Different positions will make huge differences.

  • You should try a little bit of lead playing as well.

    But anyway nice set up. Ive always wanted to get a nice rack setup going but i have never had time..

  • And how much did this puppy cost u

  • whats the lowest price you can get a used Mesa Recto?

  • The Dual Rec sounds the best...you should hear my ADA MOD3.666 clip...it sounds almost the same as that DR. Check my vids.

  • Nice job with the comparison. I  would reccommend using Shure SM-57's or a high quaity condenser mic with flat eq for a more accurate sound. That way it is closer to the way these amp setups would be heard from a studio console.

  • what program did u use on ur mac to record the vid and and audio together? does imovie allow for it? nice comparison video though.

  • this one was used with imovie. the other video i did with just the Stiletto Deuce was mic'd, and i shot it with a real camera. i still plan on re-recording this whole test as well...when i get some free time.

  • This sounds good? Either that Stiletto is broke, or it's settings are way off. It sounded like a metal zone plugged into a solid state. I couldn't get any amp to sound that bad if I tried. The other amps sound a little better. DR sounded the best.

  • The reason it didn't sound better was the fact it was recorded with the built in mic in a Mac.

  • Mesa Boogie > *

    take a marshall amp. add it a LOT of versatility and a lot of better sound ... what you get? Mesa Boogie =)

  • i have trouble playing loud on the ada...it's a bit noisy. but it really does sound awesome...especially for an 80's rack unit. i love mine.

  • I actually liked the sound of the Stiletto.

  • ADA killed them all man holy shit, other than maybe 2 channel dual rec WOW

  • I wanna hear the TUNER!!

  • stiletto sux big time. dual rectifier and ADA sounded best to me..

  • Mesa owned the marshall dude

  • Yep, a lot of expensive things on this video.

    Btw, i prefer the JMP-1.

  • due to the nature of compression, YouTube isn't really the best venue to demonstrate aural qualities. Nothing sounds like it would in person, so we wind up comparing what the amps DON"T sound like

  • some guyz are right. i suggest you use a mid-scoop v EQ setting to get the most out of these awsome amps. good job though thanks

  • Dude, this mic sucks a lot! Please update this video as soon as you can!

    But nice preamps!! I've liked the JMP-1 + 2:90 combination. Sounds awesome!

  • all the mesa stuff sounded better...

  • Hi - Can you clarify a couple of things...Do you run the pre-amps at the same time into either channel on the 290? Or do you manually switch cables? Any hum issues? I have a Triaxis and JMP1 and just got a Switchblade GL to run multi-preamp configs...just wondering...thanks!

  • Currently, i have to switch cables. I have a ground control pedal, but havent decided which to get, a GCX or the Mesa Amp Switcher. if i find a really good deal on either of these, i will pick one up. I would like the Amp Switcher, but i guess those both do the same thing. i have been using my Stiletto Deuce mainly nowadays, so the rack is 2nd priority at the moment.