The academics are in, I see. I don't understand a word of what you're talking about but "some of it was nice". Maybe you should chop a line now and learn some stupid riffs. Because it sounds somewhat insincere...
Just joking, love to see one of my favourite albums on here and someone is listening.
That having been said, I believe that credit goes to the MOI/Zappa for giving bands like B,S&T/Chicago the nerve/inpsiration to put ambitious "classically" inspired suites on their records. (Ballet for A Girl in Buchannan/Symphony for the Devil). They all have antecedents that trace back to George Martin/Beatles....
Don't remember which MPI video it's on but there's also a sort of snarky reference to Jim Fielder abandoning the MOI in favor of B,S&T when Zappa says (in trademark faux sincerity) that he was going to quit his own group to join B,S&T in order to play "Far Out Jazz". Without B,S&T and Chicago paving the way, I believe it'd have been tough for Zappa to have made Waka Jawaka/Hot Rats/Wazoo as those bands however more MOR, paved the way.
Short answer "no". Chicago started out being very progressive. (For that matter so did B,S&T-Zappa paid various forms of somewhat begrudging hommage to both groups at different times because they were competing for the same "musician" rock demographic.) Chicago certainly fell into a self paralyzing commercial success pattern that made their early work unpopular with Columbia execs. (Reputedly Clive Davis wanted to dump the horn section-not sure that's true though....)
The academics are in, I see. I don't understand a word of what you're talking about but "some of it was nice". Maybe you should chop a line now and learn some stupid riffs. Because it sounds somewhat insincere...
Just joking, love to see one of my favourite albums on here and someone is listening.
BA5966 2 months ago
That having been said, I believe that credit goes to the MOI/Zappa for giving bands like B,S&T/Chicago the nerve/inpsiration to put ambitious "classically" inspired suites on their records. (Ballet for A Girl in Buchannan/Symphony for the Devil). They all have antecedents that trace back to George Martin/Beatles....
Ricktpt1 6 months ago
@Ricktpt1 You know, reading all of what you just said, I have never thought of it that way, and you're right.
TheZappaDiscography 6 months ago
Don't remember which MPI video it's on but there's also a sort of snarky reference to Jim Fielder abandoning the MOI in favor of B,S&T when Zappa says (in trademark faux sincerity) that he was going to quit his own group to join B,S&T in order to play "Far Out Jazz". Without B,S&T and Chicago paving the way, I believe it'd have been tough for Zappa to have made Waka Jawaka/Hot Rats/Wazoo as those bands however more MOR, paved the way.
Ricktpt1 6 months ago
Google "Scrapbook by Chicago" and it talks about when they toured with the MOI.
Ricktpt1 6 months ago
For some reason "Chicago XIV" comes to my mind every time I hear the "record deal or be sunk" line........
Ricktpt1 7 months ago
@Ricktpt1 Wasn't Chicago just a lamer Blood Sweat and Tears?
DimensionsofChange 6 months ago
@DimensionsofChange:
Short answer "no". Chicago started out being very progressive. (For that matter so did B,S&T-Zappa paid various forms of somewhat begrudging hommage to both groups at different times because they were competing for the same "musician" rock demographic.) Chicago certainly fell into a self paralyzing commercial success pattern that made their early work unpopular with Columbia execs. (Reputedly Clive Davis wanted to dump the horn section-not sure that's true though....)
Ricktpt1 6 months ago
@Ricktpt1 hmmmmm
DimensionsofChange 5 months ago
@DimensionsofChange kind of but chicago did sell more records and terry kath was not lame
elvispresley718 3 weeks ago
FNA Frank. Thanks for speaking the truth at a time when (on this topic) it wasn't well accepted. Nice Weberny stuff too....
Ricktpt1 7 months ago