Pavan Sukhdev: Put a value on nature!

[Pemmee]

Your world will end if you do not make a big chance towards mother Earth....

[goshinbi44]

as much as I don't like the idea of a "price" on nature, a value a bit different. It's nice to see very quickly what it's worth in some quantifiable means. It it leads nicely to "why is it worth that much". Not a bad idea.

[kbomber12]

Valuable Information

[SourcesAreEverything]

Very important talk.

[jemmre]

@hempartist420 Fair enough. Can you give me some examples of models that are better? I agree that Zeitgeist is unrealistic in our current economic and social climate, but it is an example of how the technological advances made by our civilization could be better utilized for the benefit of human and environmental wellbeing. I think demanding that people pay the true cost for environmental degradation is as unrealistic as doing away with the monetary system. What do you think?

[eluap]

Conservation needs to be embraced by Conservatives!

[nmryda]

@eluap You would think they would right? lol

[Hashishin13]

I think we need to expand zoo's endangered species programs and loosen the restrictions on private citizens keeping them. There was a rancher in Texas who got shut down for importing a herd of endangered gazelles, he bred them to three times the number he brought in but still got shut down, how does that help the gazelle? The Golden Toad was recently discovered and within 5 years has gone missing presumed extinct, they discovered it in a pond with over 500 adults, but left them all!

[goodsirknight]

buckminster fuller lives

[PBrofaith]

It appears to me that the speaker is looking at the problem in reverse.

The problem globally is the violent enforcement of monetary (economic) value of land and nature.

[Paullove89]

@PBrofaith It's easier and quicker to slap on a price tag than make the whole place socialist.

[ritchloui]

@PBrofaith Unfortunately it is not merely the 'violent enforcement of monetary (economic) value of land and nature. It is the totally inadequate way it is valued. It is just too absurd to suggest we ditch monetary valuation. We need it to be much more accurate, as was shown in this lecture. The costs of undervaluation are FAR GREATER than the perceived 'profit' from destructive or unsustainable exploitation.

[twistedbass15]

GENIUS

[bary1234]

Human overpopulation is the problem. We are a swarm of locusts, causing massive irreversible damage to biodiversity and nature of this planet.

We have to end religions, liberate women, reduce birthrates and hope we still have some biodiversity left when our numbers start to diminish after couple of decades.

[herrbasan]

I'm usually a fan of utopist ideas, but this is so far outside what's even possible that I would argue that we all wasted valuable resources by watching this.

[dookiecheez]

When the market, a blind an unwieldy behemoth, has not been given the true cost of things it is no wonder when it fails to act with our best interests 'in mind'. While we can propose unrealistic utopian solutions, I believe the first reasonable action we should take to resolve this is to fix the current system. Until we do that, I have little confidence that we can progress to a superior model. Valuing natural capital sounds like a good start.

Fantastic talk; well put and thought invoking.

[JosephOR]

Good job TED, you listened to your viewers, now I can go and watch the next vidoe without fear of hearing loss!

[dookiecheez]

@lllraverslll

You're solution has not only not been tried billions of times every day for just about every problem imaginable, and failed miserably for this particular problem, but also relies on people agreeing with you what is right or wrong. I seriously doubt people depleting the environment pent their fingers and go "YES YES EVIL MUAHAHAH!". Given that the economy is the driving force behind the depletion of natural resources it only makes sense that the valuing system be monetary.

[seanieboy78]

@lllraverslll Yeah like that'll work. I wish it could bit no way. Far to many greedy arseholes that judge their worth as a human along with their wealth.

[ritchloui]

@lllraverslll I can see that the 'black market' could appear to be a response to huge hikes in price - as for example in ivory. However, the more recent initiatives to save the elephants, tigers and other highly prized 'black market' animals, has been to ensure that the preservation methods are of immediate and obvious value to the local people too. Previously they were just chucked off their land and were left with no legitimate means of income nor benefit from the so called 'reserves'.

[connektion]

capitalism and right wing politics do not accommodate this idea. Strong property rights and economic growth are the only goals of these ideologies. it is short-sighted and will ruin the planet, and we can't do anything about it until the world view begins to evolve and people see things the way this guy does

[invinciblemode]

@DanielManahan being vegan isn't the solution. In fact it's the problem.

[elLOBOTOMIS]

@Pedro. I agree.

[pedrogregorio]

He's trying to reverse the effect by using greed and common sense to aid in us to understand how we use the environment, put a value on it, and sell it so that we can economically strive? Our capitalistic world shouldn't hold weight on earth. This guy's "dream" would result in a nightmare. The rich would prosper and the poor will be even poorer.

[GauravA42]

@pedrogregorio Free market capitalism is the most brilliant, productive and widespread system, and it drives innovation. Its human nature, it alows us to compete in everything. If this is applied to other things,it could be far more effective in driving policies, as the environment will not be saved, unless there is real incentive. People can protests and cry all they want, but at the end of the day it will only be money that will come to the rescue. Greed is universal, but it can be good.

[ivnat77]

@GauravA42

It is not "the most" as capitalism like other social systems has its life span. And taking the current situation into account, capitalism has long lived. The next stage is transitional that is already happening in some countries but it will either evolve in something called "Resource-based economy" (check Zeitgeist or Venus Project) or we'll see unprecedented level of deprivation. As to "human nature", there's no such thing! If we had one, as J.Fresco says, we'd still be in caves ;-)

[EclecticSceptic]

@GauravA42 Lol, if you call 20% of people on Earth living on < $1 a day, and 80% of people living on < $10 a day brilliant.

[McBrown83]

@pedrogregorio I disagree, as more precautions would be taken to calculate and specialize in green-tech (with the smallest carbon footprint possible). There will be more job opportunities. It draws the smaller communities/poorer closer to the bigger communities/richer.

At least that's my view on this, I guess we really don't know until we really implement it.

[ogrish84]

Would you guys STFU about the intro already. It's like listening to a bunch of whining immature children.

[delatroy]

I've always thought about how to bring economics into conservation, but it seems to me that on the individual business level there isn't any incentive to do so.

Yes on the grand scale it's much easier to see the cost / benefit, but it needs to be implemented on the individual scale and I still don't know how that can work and... it must work on this level if it's going to work at all.

[gotiltheykickusout]

"Who Should get paid?"

Mother nature should be paid...

[MentalHygieneMusic]

Another greedy bastard trying to capitalize off of nature. Money isn't real, its a man made invention and still people like this think you can sustain a monetary system forever. lol. What the hell do you think got us into the financial pot hole we are in to begin with? Greed and common sense never made a good couple.

[panniize]

@MentalHygieneMusic Oh yeah you're the only smart guy on the planet to recognize the fallacies in his arguments. WWF, UNEP all are fools.

[NjC121]

Hmmm... Mr. Sukhdev is trying to apply our invented score called money to real resources, but what we really need to do is recognize that by valuing our money, it distracts us away from what really matters in our lives and our societies. It's all well and good to invent a way to account for envirnmental losses, but Puma, for example, is not really losing millions of dollars every year. Nature does not literally tax them for the harm they do. So nothing is likely to ever come of this attempted s

[MentalHygieneMusic]

@NjC121 Agreed. This guy is just a money hungry business machine. He's trying to perpetuate a failing system by repeating the steps that led us to where we are. What a joke!

[TheSokodelic]

@MentalHygieneMusic You misunderstand. He is trying to illustrate, quite competently, that in order to save our ecosystems (and planet), we must understand them in terms of their economic impact in order to gauge where we stand. There will always be a system. How that system affects peoples lives and the planet is the issue. This is a strategy to counteract the negative effects of economics. To change it, we must change what we value, money derived from destruction or...

[TheSokodelic]

money derived from preservation of the present ecosystems and/or rehabilitation of ecosystems.

[NjC121]

Hmmm... Mr

[DanielManahan]

Go Vegan and you can call yourself an environmentalist.

[Kaeralho]

@DanielManahan only for stupid people. check how many products come from cattle (other than food) and tell me you use none. also, turn off your lights, forget your car and go plant some trees. being a pussy doesn't make you an environmentalist, only makes you an annoying douche.

[lollerfisk]

Oh, ew. Angry dumb people fighting each other. Remind me not to scroll down on TED videos ever again.

[mhchurch4]

@lollerfisk Welcome to Youtube.

[amoghmund]

Wow... A much needed stick for the blinded govts and corporations to save all from being frog in a pot with fire underneath.

[Drvelasco45]

Please, someone consider the Yasuni - ITT iniciative in Ecuador yasuni-itt.gob.ec/

[xPEACHxEATERx]

We're so disconnected from the world which we're part of. 'Natural Capital'? *vomit* Trying to incoporate reality into our fiction is idiocy piled on some stupid. We need to adapt to It, not It to us and our piss-ant games. A price on nature? OK, the blood of all who are wreckless with Our, and Our children's only fucking home. Deal? :)

[Jimmyretired]

why is it my race always helping out the third world, england gave the empire and culture to these lot now its high time they stop asking the white english man for more monie

[timetraveler2006]

@Jimmyretired

well thats because what your race did 100s of years ago with slavery and racism. What your race should be doing is listen to the plight of the third world- the world you created.

And you didnt give culture to nobody. Our cultures have always existed and will continue to do so long after yours have been run over by unnecessary materialism, war, economic decline and civil unrest.

Only a few more years Mr. White man,... only a few more...

We will leave you by then..

[Jimmyretired]

@timetraveler2006 if my race goes extinct then we will nuke the world then everyone will be gone, England invented the nuke pal Asia only copied our technology

[pnggolfer9]

@Jimmyretired Are you serious? Ever heard of the Manhattan Project? 

[arnabchokro]

Is somebody ready to pay for growing trees?

[Jimmyretired]

@arnabchokro its cheap and in most cases free

[xPEACHxEATERx]

@arnabchokro People already do.

[arnabchokro]

@xPEACHxEATERx Anyone you know, in real, ready to sponsor large scale restorative work like forest creation

[xPEACHxEATERx]

@arnabchokro lol No, I only refer to the voluntary groups that are funded from charity and their own pockets. It's up to the Everyman, not business or affluent individuals. They will always seek profit from their investments, not once thinking that they invest in their children's health and quality of life. They will always want THEIR return.

[cristoretornebiblia]

These are my solutions, its no point blaming Polar bears or Brown bears like some people have done in the past.

1. Grow more trees

2. Stop food wastage especially in supermarkets when a slight damage is on the tin the can goes to the tip

3. See if you can go into your local supermarket rubbish tip in the back and collect all the throw away food because 90% is edible ready to consume. Just get permission first

4. Recycle more often

[cristoretornebiblia]

Every one should plant at least 1 tree, I have 7 Christmas trees in my garden I grew

[rwwanon]

This is a powerful idea, but it's been fully fleshed out by free-market ("Austrian") economists and writers. The most natural and just way to valuate natural resources is simply to allow people and private organizations to buy and sell them freely.

[jay19xxx]

booring

[xzation]

Looked like Bob Saget in the thumbnail.

[siggyboss]

Same old Tragedy of the Commons. States own the Amazon, oceans. Bees are privately owned and are cared for and researched to stop a plague harming them.

[bogart99]

Welcome to the human population crisis the unacknowledged taboo subject that is driving the environmental problems we face. We are 4 billion above the carrying capacity for the human race and still growing. Capitalist economics the driving force of the modern world calls for endless growth to be sustainable at the expense of the environment which is unsustainable.

If we are to continue down the path of unchecked growth we need to come up with a better system or face a massive collapse later.

[boblflef]

I realised at 4:15 this video was boring me when I saw a guy in the audience sleeping as the words "when did a bee actually ever give you an invoice"

[vpsaline]

The problem with pricing nature is that it's priceless. Take it away and what are you left with? Nothing! Everything depends on it.

[MikeDD86]

Guy sleeping in the crowd 4:16 lol

[rayoc]

This looks like the beginnings of a Resource Based Economy. Look up The Zeitgeist Movement.

Everyone involved with the Occupy Movement should watch this!!!!!!!

[JDNuvo]

I saw a male redbellied woodpecker and a female hairy woodpecker. They make some funny jokes in nature don't they?

[kiekert2007]

it bothers me that nature is seen as undeveloped land. it is developed to sustain life.

[abeismain]

The fact that people think global warming is caused by humans means that the person is fooled. And don't worry, there is a lot of people who are convinced of this, it's sad, really. But then it's good because it's causing businesses to make electric cars, but wait, doesn't electric cars cause more hazardous waste?

[ThePuffyDuck]

@abeismain It's sad someone who has never studied the climate thinks he knows more about the climate than 97% of scientists who actually study it.

[abeismain]

@ThePuffyDuck I'm a person who is a skeptic in all information that is given. I never trust information until I see arguments between two sides. You should read some arguements that present both cases. Google this-- is global warming caused by humans -- and click the second link, that is if you give a shit and if you truly think humans cause global warming. I've read the whole thing because it's very interesting!89

[ThePuffyDuck]

@abeismain That's not being a skeptic, that's called being an ignorant American. I don't care what the opinion of someone on YouTube is, I've studied climate and the Environment, I've been to science meets discussing the climate. There is no debate in the science world anymore, just debate mainly between ignorant Americans in politics and media. The world and its scientists are laughing at you.

[ACANOFSODA]

@ThePuffyDuck So, either you are simply enjoying the idea of pounding his intellect into the ground with your e-penis, or you are attempting to convince him otherwise through ridicule. If you are attempting to convince otherwise, then I'd state expecting "I know what I'm talking about because [x]" to be a rather flawed argument over youtube. If you do just enjoy ass-pounding - Then good on yah. Keep up the work, Mr. Aspiring-Intellect.

[ThePuffyDuck]

@ACANOFSODA What are you, 12? Are you new to YouTube? You expect me to take someone like you or him seriously? If you're going to question the science of something, go talk to scientists about it face to face. No matter what I say, he will deny it. So please, hop off your imaginary pedestal, this is the Internet. Now, go away kid.

[ACANOFSODA]

@ThePuffyDuck Yes, I'm twelve. I may be highly intelligent and well-versed when it comes to speaking my language, but have problems understanding the complexity of Youtube. Sarcasm aside, all I've seen is presumptions by you. For somebody who's supposedly an intellectual, before you act like a prick, take 2 seconds to click my Youtube profile. Am I new to Youtube? I dunno, am I? It's obvious you simply love to argue/ridicule and that's your point. No matter what I say, you'll argue

[ThePuffyDuck]

@ACANOFSODA Fair enough, you aren't new to YouTube then. Instead, it seems that you have yet to realize how reality works. Whining and complaining on YouTube as you and the other fellow are doing, is useless. I simply pointed out this fact when he claimed Global Warming is nonsense and I called him out on the fact that he has most likely NEVER talked to a real scientist, much less looked at the actual data face to face.

[ACANOFSODA]

@ThePuffyDuck Incorrect. That wasn't your point. It is inconsistent with your previous comments on how arguing with him would seem to go nowhere. Nor did you even state "Here, you should read more on these particular texts, because given my background you're incorrect." - Then left it as that. Nope. It seems you acted solely on your emotion-appeal towards this perceived ignorance. To be honest, I find what you told me just now to be better convincing than what you had said earlier.

[ThePuffyDuck]

@ACANOFSODA What inconsistencies? Can you read? My very first comment was that his pathetic opinion on Global Warming means nothing in the real world, and much less in the scientific world because the debate is over. What's emotional? Most people act like 12 year olds, including you. You honestly think your ignorant opinion matters, which is just sad.

[ACANOFSODA]

@ThePuffyDuck What I mean is, even now you type with what I can diagnose as emotional. You have presumptions you have set up about reality(particular youtube) that are most likely representative of only your experiences. I also took time to quickly browse your comments - Most of which are argumentative. In fact, you even used the same "12-year old" remake elsewhere. It does make one wonder why you behave the way you do at times. I'm certainly not devoid of understanding reality.

[outfitmadeofawesome]

@abeismain Sometimes I have trouble weeding the non-native english speakers from the regular anglophone idiots. This time though I'm going to say you're both.

Do you have a head injury? because you seem to have trouble with basic logic, thinking you're qualified to make judgement on the scientific studies you couldn't understand, maybe you should go see a doctor?

or at the very least get off the internet and go lay down in the snow for a while.

[FatalAnimal]

@abeismain If not people what is it caused by?

[FatalAnimal]

@abeismain If not people what is it caused by?

[abeismain]

@FatalAnimal wow, really!? your question means that you haven't looked at the opposing views, shame on you! Shit! You are missing out in, actual hard core evidence/research. PLEASE go to this website and explore other reasons for global warming, ---------------> takeonit.com/question/5.aspx <---- copy and paste to address bar and tell me what you think.

[FatalAnimal]

@abeismain Why do you avoid my question? I asked you what is causing the earth to warm if not caused by humans. The answer to that question is not "You have not looked at the opposing views" Are you going to brave and attempt to answer the question? Don't attempt to strawman my question and tell me what I have looked at and what I have not.

[ThePuffyDuck]

@FatalAnimal He is a joke. He really doesn't know anything about Climate science. He's the average ignorant person who goes on websites, reading information that probably isn't factual, and then coming to a baseless conclusion that there is a "controversy" or that it is "debatable."

[FatalAnimal]

@ThePuffyDuck - I just wanted an answer to the question. He acted like it was so obvious but then never provided any kind of answer What is causing the earth to warm? Its not debatable that the earth is currently in a warming trend and if they are 100% sure humans have nothing to do with it then what is the cause?

[abeismain]

@FatalAnimal lol, i swear my intentions are to answer your questions!! but the fact is that global warming is due to earth's inevitable occurrences just like rain, or earthquakes!! if you say we control global warming, or are a major cause of global warming. That is like saying, we control rain, we are a major cause of rain!

[FatalAnimal]

@abeismain Lets try this again. I asked you WHAT IS CAUSING THE EARTHS CURRENT WARMING TREND" Are you going to answer the question or avoid it. "inevitable occurrences" is nebulous nonsense. Of course humans are not the major source of heat on planet earth - that would be the sun! DUH! Humans don't necessarily cause rain but if think that we don't have an effect on rain then you are being willfully ignorant! Ever heard of acid rain? Let me guess that is fake as well LOL

[abeismain]

@FatalAnimal lol!! why does it matter what's the cause!? The link that i gave you provides causes of global warming, fuck! I'll go and copy and paste it! here: "mostly caused by atmospheric water vapour (36-70%)!" Plus obviously CO2 contributes to global warming, but humans contribute 5% of CO2 to the CO2 that ALREADY EXISTS and WILL EXISTS.

[jemmre]

Capitalist economic calculation, resource extraction, production and consumption got us into this situation of environmental degradation, so to use more of the same logic is scary. People know the true value of the the resources that sustain their lives. Real people know nature is invaluable and can not be economically quantified. Only the rich and those psychologically disconnected from the earth would want to put a value on nature. Some times i wonder what planet Capitailists come from?

[pvaultinfish]

@jemmre you have a simplistic "this is how it is" attitude. There is no right/wrong when it comes to questions. I would suggest an intellectual pursuit of the dualities in all things thinkable. People often do not know what is best for them. Working in value for nature in our economic situation is a very good temporary realistic approach for our current economic situation. Change takes time. Don't overestimate what 'real people' know and keep learning.

[jemmre]

@pvaultinfish Simplistic, ah, yea, so whats the monetary value of your life? Because last time i checked humans where a part of nature, and if we want to start valuing everything by its monetary value then this is where we end up (or have ended up). Slaves to the monetary system and the economy. Yes it is simple. Very simple. No corporation, government or individual in the western world would ever start calculating their ecological debt let alone start paying it back. The truth is simple.

[pvaultinfish]

@jemmre but reality is complicated. even if there was universal truths, and there somehow was a consensus, interpretations of how to carry it out would vary. are you suggesting anarchy? what would your ideal world look like tomorrow?

[jemmre]

@pvaultinfish Have you seen Zeitgeist documentary. This is my ideal world, and it completely does away with the monetary system. This talk has some good ideas, im not against what he is saying, i just think that to suggest that we have to put a monetary value on things in order to appreciate them is the wrong way to go. We should appreciate them for the intrinsic value they give to our lives, and the the lives of other species and the ecology as a whole. Nature is not a resource, it is life.

[goPistons06]

@jemmre but what is "intrinsic value"? people value things differently, value is subjective. prices are useful since they serve as signals coordinating production and consumption between large amounts of people.

[ritchloui]

@jemmre LOL. The WHOLE point of this lecture is that we DON'T put a monetary value on the natural environment and that is precisely what we MUST do. The idea that we 'should appreciate them for the intrinsic value they give to our lives' is neither here nor there. How does someone in Paraguay, Texas or Paris 'value' the Amazon in their lives? Saying 'awe, that's amazing' makes NO difference whatsoever and it WILL be lost.

[jemmre]

@ritchloui By intrinsic value, i mean, the sustenance nature provides us with. Whats the true value in monetary terms of this sustenance that provides us with life? It doesn't and cannot have a value, because it is in its essence invaluable. To give a monetary value to life is to degrade it, we cannot and will never be able to put a price on nature because we cannot afford to under this economic system. Not until the economic system changes can we truly appreciate the value of nature.

[nmryda]

@jemmre The dude who made the Zeitgeist movies didn't even bother to do basic research (not even a quick google search) for all the topics he covered before spouting out a bunch of CRAP, supported by ZERO evidence (citing barely any credible sources at all in all of those vids) half of which is easily refutable by wikipedia. With such blatant incompetence, why would you trust his ideas in important things like socio-economic restructuring?

[mathematicscore]

LISTEN TO THIS MAN.

[Yarlification]

4:11 Why do they show a guy that is sleeping? That doesn't make the talk sound more interesting.

[borisbmx]

plenty of resources for 1 billion.

[zassounotsukushi]

9:36 "When we measure GDP we don't include our biggest asset"

Yeah, maybe because GDP is a measure of consumption/production, which is an issue completely separate of assets...

[zassounotsukushi]

4:37 Again with the cult of locality. Why should a local population be entitled to any resources that are developed or found there? How long have their ancestors lived there? What about military families who move around from base to base their entire lives? What local resources are they entitled to the revenues of? Those genetics evolved only because they were enabled by the global biosystem and ecology.

[RadioactiveBraunMan]

well, this is a proper analysis of costs associated with possible deforestation and unsustainable damage to the eco system.

And that for a change is a valid argument, in contrast to most of the "omg ze poor polar bears.." kind of crap.

Climate change is real and happening, its not the end of the worlds, and it will create both problems for some as well as benefits to others.

Putting a correct pricetag on that is essential to figure out to what to do where first.

[Neylonx]

@RadioactiveBraunMan Polar bears have a value just like everything else, don't be mad if people put a higher value on polar bears than you do.

[chadlupkes]

The choice is short term profit vs. long term extinction.

[TheBoomshaker]

So the problem is long term vs short term profit?

[rpm297]

The real economy is photosynthesis.

[eddiebertopsp]

love the vid

[Sneak693]

How about we put a value on human life?

[MentalHygieneMusic]

@Sneak693 They already have. Every single person living in the United States legally is literally a corporation. Google it.

[InsanityComplex1]

@MentalHygieneMusic It's that or people (their "persons") are government agents and the countries are the corporations. This one makes more sense to me.

[Nyriex]

I hope people are finnaly going to have the insight that we need nature and if we don't support it, we all will die! We need nature, nature doesn't need us! Remember that!

[DaWescBoy]

I feel myself smart

[sweYoda2]

Resource based economy would be nice, google the venus project.

[Neylonx]

@sweYoda2 i remember reading about the venus project a couple of years ago. They never really explained their economy very well, they either meant everybody should get the same, and therefore remove any motivation to do anything with negative connotations yet still necessary, like sewage management. Or they meant we should go back to trading in food and livestock, which is incredibly inefficient.

[SuffocateJav90]

@Neylonx You never understood it then...

[Neylonx]

@SuffocateJav90 i went back and watched his video, it's even stupider than i thought. He wants to announce every day what resources are available, and then people can go take what they want. This wouldn't work. At all.

[Neylonx]

@SuffocateJav90 hahaha he also want's to reduce the amount of choice consumers have 'limiting it to a couple of the best' these are called monopolies or oligopolies; stifling innovation and reducing quality.Also 'only healthy and nutritious foods will be available' what constitutes healthy? Food is rarely 'bad' for you if you eat it in the right amounts. It also fails to realise that some resources ARE scarce, how do you distribute these?

[jwhitenstall]

@sweYoda2 aye, I prefer the idea of using reason and logic to manage resources, using Earthship Architecture to bridge the gap between where we are and the Venus Project would be a truly evolutionary step for mankind. Both socialism and capitalism have been failing to protect our future for some time, and putting a price on things essential to our survival is insane imo.

[MrC0MPUT3R]

People ask why in the past global warming created rain forest and more rain, but today it causes deserts and drought. It's because the climate is changing too fast, and because we cut down the trees too quickly. I hate when people argue against something they aren't educated about

[BlindPlague]

@MrC0MPUT3R well why would we not get more rain from the heating of oceans? Lets not get too ahead of ourselves and start hating people when we ourselves do not know. Could i say that global warming is also increasing the amount of flooding at the same time that it increases droughts? Where are these deserts that are being made today due to global warming rather less rainfall in certain areas due to mountain ranges etc.

Lets just agree that we need to stop destroying nature, and focus on that.

[BlindPlague]

@MrC0MPUT3R There is more going on that is causing these problems that you link solely to global warming. That was my whole point. Nature destruction is causing more problems than CO2 emissions.

[Bronyderp]

@MrC0MPUT3R I know. The evidence is obvious and right there. Even the research requested by big Oil companies tells us that Global warming is a thing, and that it will be devastating within this decade. And yet people prefer to close their eyes and ears and make nonsensical arguments like "If it's global warming, how come we still have winter?"

Jeeez

[Darvinisti]

@MrC0MPUT3R Asking isnt arguing.

[jay19xxx]

@MrC0MPUT3R eat my ass you treefag

[MrC0MPUT3R]

@jay19xxx You just made my day. Thank you.

[Ilamarea]

This is awesome. We really do need to value nature. Hank Green told us, the Nerdfighters that before.

[chubito33]

woo 2nd

[TheGi101]

Economy is just e mere mask

[WhatAxBrit]

0:15

[Arcus2658]

@WhatAxBrit Stop that. The intro isn't too loud any more. You're wasting a top comment slot that could be better filled by the usual interesting opinions and expressions of awe these videos draw.