JuiceJapan. I agree that no side is totally innocent.
Both sides are losing to the extremists and our role as peace makers gets tougher and tougher.
My generation (and me actively) brought Rabin then Barak. Who do you think sent the bombers to explode in Israel when peace was so close? You need not guess. Read today what Dahlan says that PLO never meant to recognize Israel and it was deception.
There is hope if we focus our energy to build peace together. If we take the Mahatma Gandhi way and Nelson Mandela way. Israel is strong because it is afraid to die. '
Saadat realized that. He said and practiced "no more war , no more bloodshed" and got to be hero of peace and paid with his live. Arafat refused to sign peace with Barak.
Palestinians need to think about new future. What did war and terror get? Why did you need to invite with rockets Israel back to Gaza?
And where is the magic flower garden we are planting? There can be no hope when Israel won't allow peace or co-existance. You might want to look into it more in-depth from un-bias sources.
JohnnyRock2000> What is your positive message? Fight till end of time?
What good did this message bring to the Palestinians ? Brave peace warriors paved the way in history and proved that peace is the right thing to do and paid with their lives. Rabin, Saadat , Mahatma Gandhi, Martin Luther King.
Historically you are dead wrong, Islam came only in 638 to Israel and SETTLED in Israel and built the mosque on top of the Jewish temple.
My message is to the world. Do not support Israel. Israel plans to keep and dominate Israel 100% and will do what is necessary to keep Arabs in their place, which ultimately will be little isolated shitholes in the desert or simply pushed into Jordan. Israel's strength is in US political support. The world must weaken Israel with total boycott and then enforce a 2 state solution.
JohnnyRock2000> What hope do you bring? Another 61 years of hate and devastation?
Palestinians don't have better rights than Israelis to live there. If you want to work the facts, I can give you a good lesson in archeology and history. Islam got Israel with war that killed many and lost it like all the occupiers of the land. Why is Islam war that kills everyone is better than others? Go ask Australia to give back Sydney to the aboriginals.
The fact is that we have to learn to co-exist now.
JohnnyRock2000 > Shouldn't you send a message that will make the life of Palestinians better? If you insist that all of Israel is yours (which you will find almost impossible to prove) what do you expect Israel to do? Say sorry and run away? What would you have done have you been an Israeli?
Resolving conflicts between states is no different than family (we are half brothers anyway). It is either sort of compromise or fight till one is dead. Isn't the first option is the only good one?
Israel will keep occupying and taking land. West Bank has been occupied for years. Jews are only able to oppress Palestinians with American support. Withdraw support and Israel will finally have to negotiate a peace. With American supporting everything Israel does...there is no hope for Palestinians. My message of hope? I hope America finally either forces Israel to truly negotiate, or pulls the plug on Israel.
JohnnyRock> We can argue until the cows ... I am not trying to show you that I am right. I can do that. U will find it hard to dispute historical facts, but I can do it if you so wish.
My point is that being RIGHT is the NOT the right thing to do now. We, the peace lovers must unite and show alternative.
For once, don't think negatively on what is wrong. Work with me on what good thing can we do for both nations so peace will come faster. Condemning each other is destructive and bring no hope
JohnnyRock> Think positively. A message that the world wants to hear: Reconcile. We do not need to follow the dooms of "Civilized" Europe that fought more than 1000 years and killed almost 40 millions just last century before they woke up with Marshal plan to become what is today the EU.
We know where hate and blaming lead. We, the peace lovers who talk on hospitals and kindergartens (and I brought investors to Gaza, only to see their factory blow with a stupid suicide young pitiful teen ) .
LoveOfRighteousness > Add some action to your prayers and bring a voice of peace. Peace is stronger than war and will liberate both countries from the costly rule of extremists
History shows that a Mercenary Occupation, is far more susceptible to corruption, infiltration and general lack of interest or trust in its duties, thus making them an expensive and inevitably dangerous option for long term security, which ultimately will fail to provide even the most basic or reliable solution to either sides safety or agenda.
JuiceJapan. I agree that no side is totally innocent.
Both sides are losing to the extremists and our role as peace makers gets tougher and tougher.
My generation (and me actively) brought Rabin then Barak. Who do you think sent the bombers to explode in Israel when peace was so close? You need not guess. Read today what Dahlan says that PLO never meant to recognize Israel and it was deception.
Regretfully I do not see a happy-end.
avizliran 2 years ago
There is hope if we focus our energy to build peace together. If we take the Mahatma Gandhi way and Nelson Mandela way. Israel is strong because it is afraid to die. '
Saadat realized that. He said and practiced "no more war , no more bloodshed" and got to be hero of peace and paid with his live. Arafat refused to sign peace with Barak.
Palestinians need to think about new future. What did war and terror get? Why did you need to invite with rockets Israel back to Gaza?
avizliran 3 years ago 2
And where is the magic flower garden we are planting? There can be no hope when Israel won't allow peace or co-existance. You might want to look into it more in-depth from un-bias sources.
JuiceJapan 2 years ago
JohnnyRock2000> The truth is that we are doomed to share the land. The more we hurt each other, the worst it is for two of us.
We are half brothers blinded by generation of hate. If Jews forgave Germany, we can forgive each other and start building.
avizliran 3 years ago
They learned this from the Nazi's in Germany.
JohnnyRock2000 3 years ago
The walls will go down like in East Germany when you can ensure that your extremists will not blow themselves in shopping malls.
Event and Cause. Why did Israel had to built it?
Majority of Israelis will be willing to blow these walls for real sustainable peace. I will be one of them to help you break the wall.
avizliran 3 years ago
There will be no peace until Jews get out of Arab land in Palestine.
That's not likely, as Jews want all of Israel.
That's what the settlements are all about, taking more of what they want of Palestine, inch by inch. They believe their God wants it that way.
JohnnyRock2000 3 years ago
JohnnyRock2000> What is your positive message? Fight till end of time?
What good did this message bring to the Palestinians ? Brave peace warriors paved the way in history and proved that peace is the right thing to do and paid with their lives. Rabin, Saadat , Mahatma Gandhi, Martin Luther King.
Historically you are dead wrong, Islam came only in 638 to Israel and SETTLED in Israel and built the mosque on top of the Jewish temple.
avizliran 3 years ago
My message is to the world. Do not support Israel. Israel plans to keep and dominate Israel 100% and will do what is necessary to keep Arabs in their place, which ultimately will be little isolated shitholes in the desert or simply pushed into Jordan. Israel's strength is in US political support. The world must weaken Israel with total boycott and then enforce a 2 state solution.
JohnnyRock2000 3 years ago
JohnnyRock2000> What hope do you bring? Another 61 years of hate and devastation?
Palestinians don't have better rights than Israelis to live there. If you want to work the facts, I can give you a good lesson in archeology and history. Islam got Israel with war that killed many and lost it like all the occupiers of the land. Why is Islam war that kills everyone is better than others? Go ask Australia to give back Sydney to the aboriginals.
The fact is that we have to learn to co-exist now.
avizliran 3 years ago
JohnnyRock2000 > Shouldn't you send a message that will make the life of Palestinians better? If you insist that all of Israel is yours (which you will find almost impossible to prove) what do you expect Israel to do? Say sorry and run away? What would you have done have you been an Israeli?
Resolving conflicts between states is no different than family (we are half brothers anyway). It is either sort of compromise or fight till one is dead. Isn't the first option is the only good one?
avizliran 3 years ago
Israel will keep occupying and taking land. West Bank has been occupied for years. Jews are only able to oppress Palestinians with American support. Withdraw support and Israel will finally have to negotiate a peace. With American supporting everything Israel does...there is no hope for Palestinians. My message of hope? I hope America finally either forces Israel to truly negotiate, or pulls the plug on Israel.
JohnnyRock2000 3 years ago
JohnnyRock> We can argue until the cows ... I am not trying to show you that I am right. I can do that. U will find it hard to dispute historical facts, but I can do it if you so wish.
My point is that being RIGHT is the NOT the right thing to do now. We, the peace lovers must unite and show alternative.
For once, don't think negatively on what is wrong. Work with me on what good thing can we do for both nations so peace will come faster. Condemning each other is destructive and bring no hope
avizliran 3 years ago
JohnnyRock> Think positively. A message that the world wants to hear: Reconcile. We do not need to follow the dooms of "Civilized" Europe that fought more than 1000 years and killed almost 40 millions just last century before they woke up with Marshal plan to become what is today the EU.
We know where hate and blaming lead. We, the peace lovers who talk on hospitals and kindergartens (and I brought investors to Gaza, only to see their factory blow with a stupid suicide young pitiful teen ) .
avizliran 3 years ago
May Allah(s.w.t.) free my brothers and sisters suffering in Palestine. Ameen.
LoveOfRighteousness 3 years ago
LoveOfRighteousness > Add some action to your prayers and bring a voice of peace. Peace is stronger than war and will liberate both countries from the costly rule of extremists
avizliran 3 years ago
They've made billions from war in the Middle East.
AsianPolitics 3 years ago
this is horrible!
bbproductionsLA 3 years ago
Now Israel has privatized its war! This is getting really scary....
Nearonamous 3 years ago 3
Nearonam ..not a new thing now, why not when war itself is about profit
bbproductionsLA 3 years ago 2
History shows that a Mercenary Occupation, is far more susceptible to corruption, infiltration and general lack of interest or trust in its duties, thus making them an expensive and inevitably dangerous option for long term security, which ultimately will fail to provide even the most basic or reliable solution to either sides safety or agenda.
PeaceProfit 3 years ago 2
True. They want profit.
AsianPolitics 3 years ago