I spent this weekend watching the celebrations of the 100 year anniversary of the founding of the African National Congress (ANC). It is amazing to think that in a nation that discriminated against African people so much, that the constitution was changed to encode racism into the law itself that a movement could arise and tear down the evil that was Apartheid and bring democracy to a pariah nation. I salute you, ANC.
Mag God die afrikaners seen, waar ook al in die werld. Mag God julle velig hou en een dag terug huis toe bring! God regeer, bring Hom die eer, lei ons mense O Heer!
Die lied is in afrikaans Nederlands en German( duits) en was gesing in SA en Suid wes ( Namibia) Oorsprong Nederlan, ons het baie nederlandse liedere soos een zilveren vloot ( Piet Hein) om maar een te noem.
One day Britain will come back to South Africa, this time to stand side by side with the Boers and their struggle against the Marxists terrorists dragging South Africa into the abyss.
@graemephillips Een modernere omzetting wellicht. Wel frappant: zo is bijvoorbeeld de Waalse taal bijna uitgestorven, maar wordt het volkslied van Wallonië nog steeds in die taal gezongen. Ik vraag me af of ze ook een gezongen versie bestaat in van dat plechtstatig Nederlands van één eeuw terug. ;)
Nun da ich mich lange mit dieser geschichte befasst habe.Es ist Old Saxon.-Als basis dieser psrachen aus denen sich alles weitere entwickelt hat.-But anyhow important for us is to like the musik and lovely tunes from tranvaal.Just as a young boy-scout we had the song of the old buur captain and his son who stood beside him ..Long live orange transvaal.
2e couplet is niet in de video 3e couplet: Kent gij die Staat, nog maar een kind In 's werelds Statenrij Maar toch door 't machtig Brits bewind Weleerd verklaard voor vrij? Transvalers! edel was uw streven En pijnlijk onze smaad Maar God die uitkomst heeft gegeven Zij lof voor d'eigen Staat! Looft onze God! looft onze God! Looft onze God voor land en Staat!
1e couplet: Kent gij dat volk vol heldenmoed En toch zo lang geknecht? Het heeft geofferd goed en bloed Voor vrijheid en voor recht Komt burgers! laat de vlaggen wapp'ren Ons lijden is voorbij Roemt in de zege onzer dapp'ren Dat vrije volk zijn wij! Dat vrije volk, dat vrije volk Dat vrije, vrije volk zijn wij!
i believe God is with the Boers. God gave that land to them, both Zulu and Boer migrated same time period to the Transvaal. you know the history, no need to repeat it. Dutch landed in 17th century, 400 years they built that nation from nothing thru suffering and hardship and persecution of the British devils. in the end they will get their own tribal homeland to live in peace, then rest of SA under communists anc and become another zimbabwe.
@NomendeiNL My dear frind all this languages are derived from "old saxon"- A kind which is divided in so many lanugages which arre spoken all over northern germany, Holland and Flandern. Even good old english is a part of it.
Old Saxon? Proto-Germanic I suspect you mean. It split into North-, East-(extinct) and West-Germanic. North-Germanic became Swedish, Danish, Norwegian, Icelandic and such, West Germanic split up again into Anglo-Frisian, Low German and High-German (which we know as simply German). Low German became Dutch, Afrikaans (known as Low Frankish together) and Low-Saxon which. Anglo-Frisian turned into English and Frisian.
Ek is Afrikaans, maar streng gesproke hoort die lied se lirieke in Nederlands te bly. Ons voorvaders was trots op hul herkoms uit NEDERLAND en so moet ons ook wees. Ek weier tot vandag toe om 'n Afrikaanse Bybel te lees, my familie uit die oorlog se Bijbel is in Nederlands. Ek dink Afrikaners het vergeet wie hulle is
De teksten in standaard Nederlands Kent gij dat volk vol heldenmoed En toch zo lang geknecht? Het heeft geofferd goed en bloed Voor vrijheid en voor recht Komt burgers! laat de vlaggen wapp'ren Ons lijden is voorbij Roemt in de zege onzer dapp'ren Dat vrije volk zijn wij! Dat vrije volk, dat vrije volk Dat vrije, vrije volk zijn wij!
Wat mij opvalt van het "ouder" Afrikaans, dat het nog een heel pak meer lijkt op het Nederlands/ Antwerps dialect. bv dat vrye volk is ons zingen ze nog als dat vrije volk zijn wij.
The Afrikaners were mostly Dutch, but there were also German settlers in Eastern Cape, French Huguenots in Western Cape, Even many Portuguese from Madeira.
At the time of settlement in the cape most of the 'Dutch' that arrived there were not in fact 'dutch'. Most were Flemish Walloons Frisians. The subsequent drove of german immigrants did indeed contribute almost 40% of the genes (many from east prussia - hence so many town-names from the then Prussia such as Memel, Rustenburg etc. The 'Nederduits Gereformeerde kerk' also has its origins in Ger. Whatever -all related stock - all halfbrothers.
Grew up in the NG Church myself and also thought it originated in the Netherlands. Coincidentally I noticed on wikipedia that it originated in Emdin, Germany, 1571. How acurate this is I dont know. Did not research it further as dont really care whether dutch or german. The fact that it has Neder and Duits in it is good enough for me. Dont care if it was a Smit or a Schmidt who came up with it. Cheers.
@rudikrause If moest settlers were Walloons Flemish then why is the SF flag filled with Dutch elements? Those people would not do that it doesnt make sense. Oranje, Blanje Bleu is pure dutch no doubt about it. The flag was made by the settlers so its only natural to assume most were Dutch. Also the language is most close to dutch and infact afrikaans is officially a daughter language of Dutch. These are facts.
I am not sure. As far as I know the flemish, Frisians and Walloons were at that time all still under the house of orange. This is all of little relevance for me though. The boers (of which I am also one) are a european mix - some more german than others, some more dutch than others, but all european nevertheless with a common language.
@rudikrause The Walloons were never dutch. They've always been french orientated, which is why their language is french. Flemish is the dutch speaking part of belgium.
@rudikrause If the settlers were mostly Walloons and Flemish then why would they make the flag full of Dutch elements. Oranje Blanje Bleu is pure Dutch influence and nothing else. Also the language is most close to dutch. In fact afrikaans is a daughter language of Dutch. That is a fact.
Hoor die geknars Hoor die geknars van voete op mars. Hoor die gedreun Hoor die gedreun Hoor die gedreun oor velde heen. Stryders op mars, ideale vervars wat skyn en veraad met veragting haat. Brandende vuur wat geen knegskap verduur, maar gebore uit liefde en smart. Bied ons weerstand, so gloeiend, gebrand in ons hart. O mag God ons bewaar met die trek van die laer, om ons strydende land te bewaar. Ons sal werk, ons sal groei. Ons sal veg, ons sal bloei, vir ons ou Boere land
The boers backed the Germans in the FIRST World War, purely out of hatred for the English which created the first concentration camps for Boer women and children 14 years previous! My grand father and many other boers fought in Egypt(to mention one place) against the German forces of Rommel, GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT BRU!!
Many non South Africans think the Boers were all Dutch settlers but there were also Germans and (to a lesser extent French settlers) that were Boers. Many europeans do not know the "history" between ourselves (I am English) and the Afrikans people. I would mention that when the treatment of the Boer women and children came to the attention of the British public there was widespread revulsion at what had been done.
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@burnt62 ,,Boers are descendents of dutch and french and this is reflected in their surnames...The idea that they have german blood exists only in their heads.Frisians are not germans but a mix between dutch and danish...The boers always try to climb in the same boat as germans,so they can have a sense of belonging,but the bottom line is,is that the germans have way to much honour and integrity than boers will ever have,and this is why they seek a connection to germans because boers are stupid
My liewe Afrikaners/Boere?wit mense, ons moet trots wees op ons geskiedenis! Leef lank en gesond, vrees die Heer!! ooit sal die vierkleur weer oor die vlaktes van die Zuid Afrikaansche Republiek wapper!!! Het volk van heldenmoed!
Heel veel groeten uit Nederland! Wij denken aan jullie! lang leven genraal de la Rey!!
@smoke0imix0god Zowel dit volkslied als dat van de Oranje vrije republiek zijn beter dan het huidige nederlandse volkslied, veel vrolijker! Ik sluit me aan bij jou, klotebritten! :P
@smoke0imix0god,Ek haat dit wanneer mense sê dat, watter posisie ek in? Ek is wit, Engels, Britse, ek is lief vir die Boer / Afrikaner mense en kan nie veel doen oor iets wat daar gebeur meer as 100 jaar gelede. As ek kon terug gaan in tyd, sou ek ophou om die Britte van die aand raak van Suid-Afrika. Wat het jy te sê het oor my?
de gezongen tekst is veel dichter bij het nederlands als de geschreven tekst. grammatical is de gezongen tekst perfect nederlands? wie is de zanger? een nederlander of afrikaner? of is dit heel oud afrikaans en dus dichter bij Nederlands?
This is true. My grandfather came from Danzig and his mother-tongue was low-german / platt. I could freely communicate with him as a boy - in afrikaans. The old low-german is closer to Afrikaans/Flemish/Fries/Limburgs/beschaaft nederlands than high german. But as you say - all brothers.
Kent gij de Staat, nog maar een kind In's werelds Staten rij, Maar toch door't machtig Brits bewind Weleer verklaard voor vrij? Transvalers! edel was uw streven, En pijnlijk onze smaad, Maar God de uitkomst heeft gegeven, Zij lof voor d'eigen Staat! Looft onze God! Looft onze God! Looft onze God voor land en Staat!
Kent gij dat land, zo schaars bezocht En toch zo heerlijk schoon; Waar de natuur haar wond'ren wrocht, En kwistig stelt ten toon? Transvalers! laat ons feestlied schallen! Daar waar ons volk hield stand, Waar onze vreugdeschoten knallen, Daar is ons vaderland! Dat heerlijk land, Dat heerlijk land, Dat is, dat is ons vaderland!
Kent gij dat volk vol heldenmoed En toch zo lang geknecht? Het heeft geofferd goed en bloed Voor vrijheid en voor recht. Komt, burgers! laat de vlaggen wapp'ren, Ons lijden is voorbij; Roemt in de zege onzer dapp'ren: Dat vrije volk zijn wij! Dat vrije volk, Dat vrije volk, Dat vrije, vrije volk zijn wij!
Ek dink wel dis 'n goeie plan om weer terug te gaan na die land van ons voor ouers... Die vraag is, hoekom maak hulle dit nie makliker vir Suid Afrikaaners/boere met 'n Hollandse/Nederlandse/Duitse afkoms om in die lande in te kom nie?
Hoeveel Boere immigreer nie na ander lande soos Australia en New Zealand...wat het die lande met ons kultuur in gemeen?
uazie4zamzie,you mean us whites by 'julle mense' what are you doing watching die transvaalse volkslied if you hate us boere so much. do we get to you that much hey?By the way, if the 'wheel is turning' then it must mean we will rule you (the bleks) again when the wheel has gone full circle. dumb ass!!!
U Zuidafrikaners zijn meer dan welkom, echter, Nederland is overbevolkt en geeft met name boeren geen uitzicht op toekomst. Het spiijt me meer dan ik kan zeggen.
Ik weet het wel, Helmuthoorn, ook in Nederland zijn heel veel dingen die niet deugen. Wij hebben hier inderdaad van die verachtelijke sodomisten die totaal geen schaamte kennen. Wat mij betreft horen die homofielen thuis in instituten waar zij gecorrigeerd worden. Maar als jullie afrikaanders ooit terug zouden willen komen naar Nederland, dan kunnen wij tenminste samen deze wantoestanden rechtzetten, en heel veel mensen die hier niet in Nederland thuishoren, terugsturen naar hun eigen land.
Ek weet nie waar BiltongBaz sy feite vandaan kry nie- maar hy praat 'n klomp kak. Die meeste Afrikaners/Boere het HOLLANDSE oorsprong(Meer as 80%), maar daar was ook Duitsers, Franse en Skandinawiërs wat met ons voorouers gemeng het. (Waarvan die meeste Duits en dan Frans is).
Alle Zuid-Afrikaanse boeren met Nederlandse voorouders: Kom terug naar Nederland, want HIER horen jullie thuis, en hier zijn jullie veilig. Jullie en wij zijn broeders! Wij hebben toch dezelfde voorouders! Kom terug naar huis!
Ik zou er inderdaad een voorstander van zijn om de Afrikaners onze tijdelijke gastvrijheid aan te bieden. Heel dat Bantoezooitje sterft ondertussen wel aan de AIDS of door eigen hand.
Daarna kunnen zij ooit weer teruggaan en het land opnieuw gaan bevolken. Trouwens die Bantu aan Zuid Afrika zijn niet eens de oorpspronkelijke bewoners (dat zijn de San)- maar binnengedruppeld tussen de 16de eeuw en de 19de eeuw (veelal dus na de landing van de Nederlanders).
Denk jij nou echt dat deze trotse en godvrezende mensen hun hoofd zullen gaan buigen voor dat zooitje ?
En geloof maar niet dat zij zich thuis zullen voelen in een land waar sodomieten met hun blote kont in een bootje in de gracht staan te dansen en toegejuicht worden door een minister van een club (PvdA) die openlijk het gewelddadige terrorisme van de ANC ondersteunde.
als jullie goed luisteren zingen ze de offiele nederlandse tekst en niet de afrikaanse vertaling. Het lied is officieel ook door een nederlander geschreven
So you're saying that the folks who worked for VOC were of German, French & Danish background. Then where did Jan Van Riebeek & Hendrik Boom come from dude? were they not Dutch?
Everyone knows the Fu!*n ANC lied to get power bro, old news. Lets see how long they hold on for
I don't know about white rule again so much bro, it would be good for SA: Safety, no racism. The "genuine" boers can have there land back too, God willing.
Cheers from the British - South African Soutie society - UK
hello i'm looking for someone who was a victim of the apartheid regime and share his point of views on my channel you are all welcome ..thank you ps mandela he is my hero!
Well, do a search on the South African farmland and search for some white Boers. They can surely tell you what your hero Mandela has caused in South Africa.
't Lied is nog gezongen in het Nederlands... en zelfs in een heel archaïsch Nederlands. "Kent gij die staat..." De Afrikaanse ondertiteling lijkt me niet helemaal consequent, maar soit.
Whats all this kak about the Boers being from Holland. The Cape Dutch Afrikaaners helped the British fight against the Boers in the Boer war but now they the same people?
The Boers pissed off & formed their own Republic to get away from the British & Afrikaaners who were happy under Brit law
Afrikaaners had no intention of having their own indipendant land but the Boers wanted to rule themselves.
Kak? Not at all, it's just the truth. The Boers were part of old Dutch settlers who first colonized the region. Then as Napoleon took over the European Netherlands the British went in 'to protect' the Dutch colonies, they never returned this one. The Boers didn't agree with that and left the Cape colony to regain their independence from the British. It's only logical to assume that part of the colonists however were happy to just continue their business under British law, so they stayed.
BiltongBaz;listen you dried meat do you know what's the meaning of kaffir ? it's a unbeliever ! and the difference between you and me is that i believe and you don't ,so you fall in that line ...jij verstan mij old dutchie!!!
i believe south africa is free from white rule you stupid boer or afrikaaner whatever you want to be call! you believe in no hope so you are the real kaffir ! en ek verstaan ook jou foken taal jou doos ! ik ben van belgie!
The 1st people who arrived at the Cape spoke High Dutch or Frakonish
Afrikaans originates from Frankonish which was spoken by the servants of the VOC who were sent to the Cape
Netherland Dutch & High Dutch comes from the same Franconian roots, this is why they are similar NOT because Afrikaans comes from Dutch
The high Dutch they spoke was changed & influenced in the 17th century by the languages of other people who also came to the Cape which helped form the Afrikaans dialect
Now every second Dutchman thinks the Boer came from Dutch decent -This is a huge insult to the Boer nation & the very reason their identity as a seperate nation has been destroyed!
According to our SA history books today Boers never even existed, this just shows how much our history has been wiped out.
The 2 cultures were very different & could not live together. There were always 3 groups of white peoples in SA
You are a invader in South Africa, who forefather, killed, enslaved, murdered, and setup a system of oppression inorder to strip the wealth of AFRICA, for european interest. According to DNA L1,L2,L3, you are not native or indigenous to AFRICA, you are
(HAPLOTYPE R)european in origins.
Just because a robber, breaks into your house, and then has kids, that does not mean the house now belongs to the kids whos parents were the robbers. Your time is soon up.
Haha ! You clearly do not know a single thing about Boer history in SA. Go learn something before you write stupid comments like that!
Wow do you even know where SA ? lol I cant believe you serious! Are you honestly so stupid as to think the Boer were the oppressers of SA? & dont belong there? lol
With your theorie all white americans should go back to Europe & all blacks go back to Africa & if you go further back every1 originates in Africa so every1 should all go back to Africa anyway !
The Bantu are not indigenous to S Africa either so why are they running the country?
The Boers did not settle in SA from a single country, their nation, culture, language & traditions were born & developed in SA making them African & the only indiginous "white tribe" in Africa
The Boer didnt exist in any other country. They did not steal any land as they trecked away from the Dutch & British oppressive governments so they could govern themselves
The Boers trekked into the uninhabited highveld which was useless to the cattle herding Bantu because of the cold winters & lack of water for the cattle
The Boers claimed the land as their own, Boer Republics were recognised by the Netherlands, Belgium, France, America, England & Ireland
But you say they stole it LOL
They developed it until gold was discoverd & the British tried to wipe them out in the Boer war. The Boerevolk havent had any land or country of their own since 1902
Blacks flooded the Boer Republics after the Boer war to work as cheap labour on the mines.
They willingly came for work, NOT SLAVES lol
Boers are the only nation on Earth that dont have their own land. They did not STEAL anything! It is the British that stole their land
then the Cape Dutch Afrikaaners inhereted their land from the Brits, apartheid was invented by the Brits & Dutch which further oppressed the Boer people
So best you go learn some history before making stupid comments hey!
What is wrong with the Dutch? They showed great solidarity with the Boer Republics during the Boer wars. They never suppressed the Afrikaander people. In fact, the official language of the Boer Republics was Dutch!
Dutch power was the original oppressors of the Boer! Boers had their 1st anti-Colonial freedom struggle against the Dutch in 1795 on the Cape frontier. What solidarity are you talking about during the Boer war? The Dutch often helped the Brits fight against the Boer
The Cape Dutch Afrikaaners & Boers arent the same people & the VOC was AGAINST the creation of a permanent White presence but rather the natural outgrowth of a people who viewed Africa as their home
"official language of the Boer Republics was Dutch"
No it wasnt ! Boers dialect was classified as Eastern Border Afrikaans which was banned in public in 1921 when the West Cape dialect dominated. Most of the first arrivals to the Cape spoke Frankonish. Afrikaans originated from the Frankonish spoken by the servants of the VOC & it was influenced by a few other languages which helped shape the Afrikaans dialects during the 17th century
Frankonish was related to the common High Dutch & was a COUSIN of Dutch, Afrikaans doesnt actually come from Dutch
(& neither were the Boers mostely of Dutch decent)
Afrikaans is only similar to Dutch because Netherlands Dutch & High Dutch branched from a common Franconian root, just like Provencal & French are similar because they come from the same root
Boers broke all connection to Europe, this is why the Boers were not seen as settlers & did NOT speak Dutch !
If you interested in the Boer history, check out some vids on youtube... "the right perspective" posted by Pinard7. Pinard is extremely knowledgeable about the Boerevolk too
And this like High Dutch didn't exist. You only have high Germanic or low Germanic or someting like it. The Afrikaans comes from the mixed languages such as maily Dutch and because of the other cultures that were sendend there under dutch rule also German, French and Indonesian
later when the british arrived it also added some english and scottish.
Why u think Vierkleur and vrystaat flag has RED WHITE BLUE in it?
You might think its not important but those Germans & other poor people you are referring to, were the slaves of the VOC & from them is where the Boer nation originates from, this is why the Boers are mostly from German decent & have very little Dutch ancestry. Boers dont originate from the Dutch
These "Germans & poor people" got tired of the oppressive Dutch rulers & had their first freedom struggle against the oppressive Dutch in 1795 This is the reason for the great trek
The people who embarked on the Great Trek became known as Trek Boers. Boers are the descendants of these Trek Boers. The VOC were against a permanent white presence. This is why the Boer are indigenous to S Africa as a natural out-growth from the poor slaves the Voc dumped at the Cape
Those poor German servants amalgamated with the Frisian & Danish descendants & later with the French Huguenots refugees. There was never a Dutch speaking tribe in Southern Africa & Boers were never Dutch !
Afrikaans originated from the Frankonish spoken by those poor servants of the VOC
Afrikaans was influenced by Malay, Portuguese, German, French & Khoi in the 17th century & shaped the different Afrikaans dialects
The Boers' dialect was classified as Eastern Border Afrikaans which was removed from public in 1921 when the West Cape dialect dominated. This is the Afrikaans dialect which is spoken today
If you dont like the term high Dutch then call it low Germanic but the reason I first commented on here was because many Dutch people think they are related to the Boer which is simply not true
The Dutch oppressed the poor Boer nation, they stole the Boers history & right for self determination -why the hell should the Boer see the Dutch as friends. Apartheid also oppressed the Boers
The NP & ALL SAs presidents also oppressed the Boers & refused them their own land
There are many German last names in SA. Some German names still have their original spelling like Rundle, Vlok, Hoffman, Wasserman & Putter. Some German names changed, Bode & Both became Botha, Kluthe became Cloete, Grünwald became Groenewald. Gruenwald, Grunewald & Grunenwaldt all have variations of spelling too
We still have the original spelling for many French names like Joubert, Du Toit, Le Grange, Du Plessis & Roux etc but most last names were changed though
Many French names were respelled for example, Cronier became Cronjé, Lombard became Lombaard, Jourdan became Jordaan, Villion became Viljoen, Rousseau became Rossouw etc These are very common names in SA
We use French first names too like Charl, Louis & Jacques -remember the French Huguenots refugees made up about 25% of the Boer nation. Eugene TerreBlanche is a direct decendant of those French refugees sent to the Cape
The French influence is also where SA gets its wine making from
But they were under the Dutch flag. the Boers are mixed but all traved under the VOC.
But I wonder... how do u Boers (I dunno if u are a boer or a other afrikaner) think about the Dutch? You might be from other countries but still without them they would probaly never exist. And the first boer was 100% Dutch. Jan van Riebeeck right?
The Dutch were the original oppressors of the Boer & the Boer had their first anti- Colonial freedom struggle against the Dutch who looked down on the Boer & who made them equal to the freed slaves on the land the Boers felt was their land
The Boer were seen as an indigenous people as they were a natural outgrowth from the poorest servants who were dumped in the Cape.
If the servants were not taken to the Cape by the VOC then yes the Boer would not have existed but our history would have been totally different. Boers never existed in any other country, they developed from different nationalities. These servants mixed together, broke all connection to any European country & developed their own language, culture & traditions on African soil. The Boer only came into existence after the diverse group of servants had mixed together & developed as a separate nation
No Dutch born people are seen as Boers. Jan van Riebeeck isnt seen as a Boer. The servants had no choice but to travel under the VOC, they were forced out of their home countries which is why they were not a colonial power. The Afrikaners were the wealthier majority while the Boer were the poorer ones
I dont think any South Africans have a problem with the Dutch just dont call them a Dutchman lol I thought that the Dutch in the Netherlands actually supported the British in the Boer war ?
But the Dutch I am not sure they did support the British in that war. I heard that the Dutch and British were allies for long ages but I also heard that the Dutch queen sended a letter to Great Britian to stop attacking the Boers. It's sad that Boers are seeing as a extreme-right wing folk. saying that the Boers are racist is the same as saying that the Germans are nazies. Anyway there is now a alliance between South Africa and Holland. And that's good enough
And 9 of the 10 people in Holland are pro-Boer. After the ww2 many Dutch did emigrate from Holland to South Africa aswell. Today South Africa is still populair to have a vacation house in or someting like it.
Oh btw the Vrystaat flag Red white blue + orange stripes is made by a Dutch prince as present for South Africa
as far I know they did joined the VOC because they didn't were very poor and needed to earn money. Why did trekboers used Red White and Blue together with some other colours in most of their flags? Why they didn't use a German or other? when they did added the flag they could took the german colours
Some Dutch did joined the amalgamated group of servants but only made up 10% of them & theres some argument about if these people were actually Dutch but thats irrelevant
The Boer were definitely not the same people as the Cape based Afrikaners even if their were some mixing between the 2. The Boers first freedom struggle was against the oppressive Dutch rulers
The flag was designed by a Holland born man but I THINK it was designed before they started the great trek while still in the Cape
Flag was designed before their struggle against the Dutch rule started. Those that trekked inland were known as the trekboers. When these Trekboers settled north of the Orange river & formed the Boer Republics they became known as Boers, they adopted the Vierkleur as their flag but that doesnt mean the Boers consisted of mainly Dutch descendants though
Have you listened to the "Right perspective" vids posted by Pinard7? I dont know which 1 but it says that the Boer originate from mostly Germans
& yes the Boers have always been the poorest people as they developed from the poorest segment of the amalgamated group of servants.
The Cape based Afrikaners were by far the majority of the Afrikkaans speaking peoples which is why their dialect of Afrikaans is spoken today while the Boers dialect was banned from public.
Its a very controversial topic but very interesting
Its worth sending Pinard a message if you really interested in it
I knew that the Vrystaat flag was made by a Dutch prince asfar I know for the boers themself. that's what someone told me. aight okay but then I wonder how about the lastnames of the afrikaners?
What's your problem? where u get THAT info from the VOC? I have never read they were against it. They just didn't wanted to settle there because there was nothing to find. So they sended germans and other poor people to south africa under the dutch flag. and what they did was not importend.
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I spent this weekend watching the celebrations of the 100 year anniversary of the founding of the African National Congress (ANC). It is amazing to think that in a nation that discriminated against African people so much, that the constitution was changed to encode racism into the law itself that a movement could arise and tear down the evil that was Apartheid and bring democracy to a pariah nation. I salute you, ANC.
WhiteRose052 3 weeks ago
Mag God die afrikaners seen, waar ook al in die werld. Mag God julle velig hou en een dag terug huis toe bring! God regeer, bring Hom die eer, lei ons mense O Heer!
LouwrensStassen 4 weeks ago
Er wordt in nederland nog aan jullie gedacht. In Utrecht is er nog de Paul Krugerstraat !
duidelijkluid 1 month ago
I love you Boers! Love you all the way.
Greetings from Germany.
000000AEA000000 1 month ago 3
terrible music
timiss17 4 months ago
gott strafe england.. er strafe es!
88Landsmann 5 months ago
Italy supports boer and afrikaners! Go brothers!
Antralian 8 months ago 7
Die lied is in afrikaans Nederlands en German( duits) en was gesing in SA en Suid wes ( Namibia) Oorsprong Nederlan, ons het baie nederlandse liedere soos een zilveren vloot ( Piet Hein) om maar een te noem.
cas31060 9 months ago
May the Boer Volk rise again.
One day Britain will come back to South Africa, this time to stand side by side with the Boers and their struggle against the Marxists terrorists dragging South Africa into the abyss.
Rule Britannia
England Loyal
AngloSaxon1921 10 months ago
@AngloSaxon1921 Not British, not south africa, not racist, but totally agree with your comment.
breizhcatalonia1993 8 months ago
Waaroom is dit op Afrikaans? Dit het officiël in die tyd van die Zuid-Afrikaanse Republiek nie geëxisteer nie.
graemephillips 1 year ago 2
@graemephillips Een modernere omzetting wellicht. Wel frappant: zo is bijvoorbeeld de Waalse taal bijna uitgestorven, maar wordt het volkslied van Wallonië nog steeds in die taal gezongen. Ik vraag me af of ze ook een gezongen versie bestaat in van dat plechtstatig Nederlands van één eeuw terug. ;)
kalefles 11 months ago
@kalefles Stomme ik. Deze verise IS gezongen in het Nederlands.
kalefles 11 months ago
@kalefles Dit is de Nederlandse versie- de oorspronkelijke, en de ondertiteling is de Afrikaanse "vertaling" van later.
Jaapman 5 months ago
I can't understand Afrikaans very well, but this song seems so tragic, they're so happy that they are, and it barely lasted any time at all.
Lewis1711 1 year ago
Een van die MOOISTE Volksliedere OOIT! Lank lewe De LA REY!
Willem1981Paarl 1 year ago
Nun da ich mich lange mit dieser geschichte befasst habe.Es ist Old Saxon.-Als basis dieser psrachen aus denen sich alles weitere entwickelt hat.-But anyhow important for us is to like the musik and lovely tunes from tranvaal.Just as a young boy-scout we had the song of the old buur captain and his son who stood beside him ..Long live orange transvaal.
RoHanseat 1 year ago
Rhodesien! Unser Land!
TheWolfsmann 1 year ago
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i believe God is with the Boers. God gave that land to them, both Zulu and Boer migrated same time period to the Transvaal. you know the history, no need to repeat it. Dutch landed in 17th century, 400 years they built that nation from nothing thru suffering and hardship and persecution of the British devils. in the end they will get their own tribal homeland to live in peace, then rest of SA under communists anc and become another zimbabwe.
Rico8458 1 year ago
@NomendeiNL My dear frind all this languages are derived from "old saxon"- A kind which is divided in so many lanugages which arre spoken all over northern germany, Holland and Flandern. Even good old english is a part of it.
Moien avend.
RoHanseat 1 year ago
@RoHanseat
Old Saxon? Proto-Germanic I suspect you mean. It split into North-, East-(extinct) and West-Germanic. North-Germanic became Swedish, Danish, Norwegian, Icelandic and such, West Germanic split up again into Anglo-Frisian, Low German and High-German (which we know as simply German). Low German became Dutch, Afrikaans (known as Low Frankish together) and Low-Saxon which. Anglo-Frisian turned into English and Frisian.
Quintinohthree 1 year ago
@Quintinohthree you see my answer above.--Klaus
RoHanseat 1 year ago
Ek is Afrikaans, maar streng gesproke hoort die lied se lirieke in Nederlands te bly. Ons voorvaders was trots op hul herkoms uit NEDERLAND en so moet ons ook wees. Ek weier tot vandag toe om 'n Afrikaanse Bybel te lees, my familie uit die oorlog se Bijbel is in Nederlands. Ek dink Afrikaners het vergeet wie hulle is
SouthAfricanify 1 year ago
De teksten in standaard Nederlands Kent gij dat volk vol heldenmoed En toch zo lang geknecht? Het heeft geofferd goed en bloed Voor vrijheid en voor recht Komt burgers! laat de vlaggen wapp'ren Ons lijden is voorbij Roemt in de zege onzer dapp'ren Dat vrije volk zijn wij! Dat vrije volk, dat vrije volk Dat vrije, vrije volk zijn wij!
Ronin27x 1 year ago
Wat mij opvalt van het "ouder" Afrikaans, dat het nog een heel pak meer lijkt op het Nederlands/ Antwerps dialect. bv dat vrye volk is ons zingen ze nog als dat vrije volk zijn wij.
ceniel007 1 year ago 2
LOL bliksim maar dis retarded
envymozez 1 year ago
Hopelijk vergaat het die Boere niet zoals het gaat met de boeren in Zimbabwe. Het afslachten van de blanken daar is schokkend!!!!
sebbo1944 1 year ago
The Afrikaners were mostly Dutch, but there were also German settlers in Eastern Cape, French Huguenots in Western Cape, Even many Portuguese from Madeira.
Ronin27x 1 year ago
@NomendeiNL well dutch people and afrikaners understand each other dont they?
slimv29 1 year ago
Loof onse God!
SterlingUliso 1 year ago
"vir" wordt hier als "voor" uitgesproken, niet als een soort u/i-klank (vur/vir)
Ragkaka 1 year ago
Let me say this dont call the suid afrikaners dutch! they lost that title a long time ago!
they are suid afrikaners!
same as an australian aint english!
Je bent wat je bent wees daar trots op!
CITYGROUPTV 1 year ago
Danke für das Hochladen.
HamitVucutcu 1 year ago
At the time of settlement in the cape most of the 'Dutch' that arrived there were not in fact 'dutch'. Most were Flemish Walloons Frisians. The subsequent drove of german immigrants did indeed contribute almost 40% of the genes (many from east prussia - hence so many town-names from the then Prussia such as Memel, Rustenburg etc. The 'Nederduits Gereformeerde kerk' also has its origins in Ger. Whatever -all related stock - all halfbrothers.
rudikrause 1 year ago 2
@rudikrause the Nederduitse kerk has its origins in Holland
Ragkaka 1 year ago
@Ragkaka
Grew up in the NG Church myself and also thought it originated in the Netherlands. Coincidentally I noticed on wikipedia that it originated in Emdin, Germany, 1571. How acurate this is I dont know. Did not research it further as dont really care whether dutch or german. The fact that it has Neder and Duits in it is good enough for me. Dont care if it was a Smit or a Schmidt who came up with it. Cheers.
rudikrause 1 year ago
@rudikrause If moest settlers were Walloons Flemish then why is the SF flag filled with Dutch elements? Those people would not do that it doesnt make sense. Oranje, Blanje Bleu is pure dutch no doubt about it. The flag was made by the settlers so its only natural to assume most were Dutch. Also the language is most close to dutch and infact afrikaans is officially a daughter language of Dutch. These are facts.
CCDevlin 1 year ago
@CCDevlin
I am not sure. As far as I know the flemish, Frisians and Walloons were at that time all still under the house of orange. This is all of little relevance for me though. The boers (of which I am also one) are a european mix - some more german than others, some more dutch than others, but all european nevertheless with a common language.
rudikrause 1 year ago
@rudikrause The Walloons were never dutch. They've always been french orientated, which is why their language is french. Flemish is the dutch speaking part of belgium.
CCDevlin 1 year ago
@rudikrause If the settlers were mostly Walloons and Flemish then why would they make the flag full of Dutch elements. Oranje Blanje Bleu is pure Dutch influence and nothing else. Also the language is most close to dutch. In fact afrikaans is a daughter language of Dutch. That is a fact.
CCDevlin 1 year ago
Wil vir my so voorkom of blueskyes111 se Mammie hom nie lief gehad het as kind nie. Hartseer verhaal...
simsonmoller 1 year ago
The Transvaal will rise again - with Afrikaners and Brits UNITED against the common terrorist foe!
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asas2jh 2 years ago
@asas2jh and most dutch ppl are of german decent.
entenkrieger 2 years ago
The boers backed the Germans in the FIRST World War, purely out of hatred for the English which created the first concentration camps for Boer women and children 14 years previous! My grand father and many other boers fought in Egypt(to mention one place) against the German forces of Rommel, GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT BRU!!
tonteldoos1 2 years ago 4
Many non South Africans think the Boers were all Dutch settlers but there were also Germans and (to a lesser extent French settlers) that were Boers. Many europeans do not know the "history" between ourselves (I am English) and the Afrikans people. I would mention that when the treatment of the Boer women and children came to the attention of the British public there was widespread revulsion at what had been done.
burnt62 2 years ago
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@burnt62 ,,Boers are descendents of dutch and french and this is reflected in their surnames...The idea that they have german blood exists only in their heads.Frisians are not germans but a mix between dutch and danish...The boers always try to climb in the same boat as germans,so they can have a sense of belonging,but the bottom line is,is that the germans have way to much honour and integrity than boers will ever have,and this is why they seek a connection to germans because boers are stupid
blueskyes111 1 year ago
My liewe Afrikaners/Boere?wit mense, ons moet trots wees op ons geskiedenis! Leef lank en gesond, vrees die Heer!! ooit sal die vierkleur weer oor die vlaktes van die Zuid Afrikaansche Republiek wapper!!! Het volk van heldenmoed!
Heel veel groeten uit Nederland! Wij denken aan jullie! lang leven genraal de la Rey!!
HugodeRuyter 2 years ago 28
Ik hoop het
manucoryn 1 year ago
Dit is baie mooi!!!
iswarthere 1 year ago
STAAN SAAM, VREES GOD, en ONS SAL OORWIN!!!
janolifant 2 years ago
Alle Boere is Afrikaners ook, maar nie alle Afrikaners is Boere nie... Jou hart sal vir jou sê of jy 'n Boer is! Dis so eenvoudig soos dit.
Boereprinses 2 years ago
godverdomme die klote britten ook
smoke0imix0god 2 years ago 25
@smoke0imix0god haha inderdaad auwe
MaMonkey500 1 year ago
@smoke0imix0god Zowel dit volkslied als dat van de Oranje vrije republiek zijn beter dan het huidige nederlandse volkslied, veel vrolijker! Ik sluit me aan bij jou, klotebritten! :P
Bogermanproductions 1 year ago
@smoke0imix0god Nah, lad, niet klote britten maar "Rule Britannia" or else you'd be speaking in Kraut now, knobhead.... God Save the Queen!!!
Komnenos1191 10 months ago
@Komnenos1191 no god bless amarica for not speaking german now
ThePixelSmasher 9 months ago
@ThePixelSmasher Soon half of America will speak spanish, thanks to the Democrats.
AndreasAntoniusMaria 3 months ago
@AndreasAntoniusMaria that's true, i completly agree with the repulicans
ThePixelSmasher 3 months ago
@Komnenos1191 no, god bless amarica for that we arent speaking german right now
ThePixelSmasher 9 months ago
@ThePixelSmasher - fuck america -
26TM240 4 months ago
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@Komnenos1191 no, god bless amarica for that we arent speaking german right now
ThePixelSmasher 9 months ago
@smoke0imix0god,Ek haat dit wanneer mense sê dat, watter posisie ek in? Ek is wit, Engels, Britse, ek is lief vir die Boer / Afrikaner mense en kan nie veel doen oor iets wat daar gebeur meer as 100 jaar gelede. As ek kon terug gaan in tyd, sou ek ophou om die Britte van die aand raak van Suid-Afrika. Wat het jy te sê het oor my?
t1t296 1 day ago
de gezongen tekst is veel dichter bij het nederlands als de geschreven tekst. grammatical is de gezongen tekst perfect nederlands? wie is de zanger? een nederlander of afrikaner? of is dit heel oud afrikaans en dus dichter bij Nederlands?
Gerberdebadge 2 years ago 4
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Die Nazi SCUM!!! Americans NEVER forget the tyranny you brought upon the world.
deadchef 2 years ago
You are at the wrong anthem. This isnt the Nazi German anthem you silly jank.
kamikazekonijn 2 years ago 5
@kamikazekonijn
Nevertheless its understandable that he does not notice the difference of the language.
Nederlands is a low german dialect, and even I (I'm bavarian) can understand what they sing and what the others write here.
People from northern germany, which speak platt, wether from the northsea or, until it got lost, from east-prussia, shurely can understand it easily.
Especially the Friesen I think, cause many netherlandish ppl also speak frisisch ?
entenkrieger 2 years ago
@entenkrieger No not many people outside of Friesland speaks Frisian. Be Frank you can't speak Sorbisch either, can you?
odijkvanhal 1 year ago
@entenkrieger
This is true. My grandfather came from Danzig and his mother-tongue was low-german / platt. I could freely communicate with him as a boy - in afrikaans. The old low-german is closer to Afrikaans/Flemish/Fries/Limburgs/beschaaft nederlands than high german. But as you say - all brothers.
rudikrause 1 year ago
I am not sure of your background but I am sure of your ignorance.
Seioghe 1 year ago
I have no fucking idea why you equate Transvaal with Nazi Germany but ehh you are the silly bastard around here so maybe you know.
AmersfoortTristan 2 years ago 5
i like more that anthem than the oranje volkslied , but have someone netherlands version separately from die stem?
uudrakgvens94 2 years ago 3
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SuperSayjinElite 2 years ago
Viva boere Viva.
Slat die swaert kaffirs moertoe
Land van wit en blou
kaffirbasher1 2 years ago
Laat die swart kaks noordwaarts trek
kaffirbasher1 2 years ago
BUREN!!unsere zeit kommt wo wir gemeinsan unser land befreien!es wir vielleicht nicht heute oder morgen sein aber es wid sein!
drasenhofen169 2 years ago
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Ricardothe1337 2 years ago
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Ricardothe1337 2 years ago 4
As an Engelsman in Suid Africa, n totse volk was daar nooit. ons aankoms was n eene voud...
sirromtrebor 2 years ago
Dit's mooi, en dit's reg.
SterlingUliso 2 years ago
Father God Help us to see ...
Everything belongs to thee...
Help us fix our eyes on Heaven ...
To the real Eternity !!!!
sthelie01 2 years ago
Ek dink wel dis 'n goeie plan om weer terug te gaan na die land van ons voor ouers... Die vraag is, hoekom maak hulle dit nie makliker vir Suid Afrikaaners/boere met 'n Hollandse/Nederlandse/Duitse afkoms om in die lande in te kom nie?
Hoeveel Boere immigreer nie na ander lande soos Australia en New Zealand...wat het die lande met ons kultuur in gemeen?
pawpawkind 2 years ago
Ag shame julle mense sal nooit regtig vir ons weer domineer nie....its the wheel turnig around baby, chickens coming home to roost..
uazie4zamzie 2 years ago
uazie4zamzie,you mean us whites by 'julle mense' what are you doing watching die transvaalse volkslied if you hate us boere so much. do we get to you that much hey?By the way, if the 'wheel is turning' then it must mean we will rule you (the bleks) again when the wheel has gone full circle. dumb ass!!!
TheTrotseboer 2 years ago
Dont be hating! It was white people that voted to end apartheid.
Meserlion 2 years ago 3
Ik hoop dat Nederlands te verstaan is.
U Zuidafrikaners zijn meer dan welkom, echter, Nederland is overbevolkt en geeft met name boeren geen uitzicht op toekomst. Het spiijt me meer dan ik kan zeggen.
004710 2 years ago
Ik weet het wel, Helmuthoorn, ook in Nederland zijn heel veel dingen die niet deugen. Wij hebben hier inderdaad van die verachtelijke sodomisten die totaal geen schaamte kennen. Wat mij betreft horen die homofielen thuis in instituten waar zij gecorrigeerd worden. Maar als jullie afrikaanders ooit terug zouden willen komen naar Nederland, dan kunnen wij tenminste samen deze wantoestanden rechtzetten, en heel veel mensen die hier niet in Nederland thuishoren, terugsturen naar hun eigen land.
mastur1974 2 years ago
I thank God that I come from these proud Boer people!! VOORWAARTS!!!!!!
MrBouts 2 years ago 2
Dat is Nederlands. Standaard-Nederlands. Niet Afrikaans, maar Hollands.
IustitiaPax 2 years ago 3
Die Oranje-VryStaat praat standaard Hollands.
Sindhi78 2 years ago
Ek weet nie waar BiltongBaz sy feite vandaan kry nie- maar hy praat 'n klomp kak. Die meeste Afrikaners/Boere het HOLLANDSE oorsprong(Meer as 80%), maar daar was ook Duitsers, Franse en Skandinawiërs wat met ons voorouers gemeng het. (Waarvan die meeste Duits en dan Frans is).
vikingterror7 2 years ago 3
Alle Zuid-Afrikaanse boeren met Nederlandse voorouders: Kom terug naar Nederland, want HIER horen jullie thuis, en hier zijn jullie veilig. Jullie en wij zijn broeders! Wij hebben toch dezelfde voorouders! Kom terug naar huis!
Hartelijke groeten,
Eric van der Sterren
mastur1974 2 years ago
Ik zou er inderdaad een voorstander van zijn om de Afrikaners onze tijdelijke gastvrijheid aan te bieden. Heel dat Bantoezooitje sterft ondertussen wel aan de AIDS of door eigen hand.
Daarna kunnen zij ooit weer teruggaan en het land opnieuw gaan bevolken. Trouwens die Bantu aan Zuid Afrika zijn niet eens de oorpspronkelijke bewoners (dat zijn de San)- maar binnengedruppeld tussen de 16de eeuw en de 19de eeuw (veelal dus na de landing van de Nederlanders).
AmersfoortTristan 2 years ago
Denk jij nou echt dat deze trotse en godvrezende mensen hun hoofd zullen gaan buigen voor dat zooitje ?
En geloof maar niet dat zij zich thuis zullen voelen in een land waar sodomieten met hun blote kont in een bootje in de gracht staan te dansen en toegejuicht worden door een minister van een club (PvdA) die openlijk het gewelddadige terrorisme van de ANC ondersteunde.
ONS NASIE SAL WEER OPSTAAN
helmuthoorn 2 years ago
The dutch never supported england in that case, england took the country away from the dutch
Dien Nederlanders het Engelan nie gesteu nie, want hulle het die land van nederland afpakt
bertstaal 2 years ago 3
Een Duitser kan dit helemaal niet verstaan tenzij hij dicht tegen de Nederlandse grens aan woont.
En als de Boer(en) Pruissen zouden zijn dan hadden ze toch zeker wel Bauer geheten en niet Boer.
En ja het Nederlands is een West-Germaanse taal net al het Duits.
En een Deen begrijpt hier al helemaal niets van.
En dan heb ik het nog niet eens over de oude "Prince" vlag.
Gip68 2 years ago
als jullie goed luisteren zingen ze de offiele nederlandse tekst en niet de afrikaanse vertaling. Het lied is officieel ook door een nederlander geschreven
Tubbergen 3 years ago
ons vir jou Boer en Suid Afrika! sympathy from germany!!!
StefanMoll89 3 years ago
goed te begrijpen voor een nederlander... mooi!!
grtz from Holland
Eastman070 3 years ago 2
I'm Dutch and I understand most of the anthem
daantjuh15 3 years ago
So you're saying that the folks who worked for VOC were of German, French & Danish background. Then where did Jan Van Riebeek & Hendrik Boom come from dude? were they not Dutch?
Everyone knows the Fu!*n ANC lied to get power bro, old news. Lets see how long they hold on for
I don't know about white rule again so much bro, it would be good for SA: Safety, no racism. The "genuine" boers can have there land back too, God willing.
Cheers from the British - South African Soutie society - UK
daviator78 3 years ago
Dit is een van die baie liedere wat ek nooit sal vergeet nie.
dewaldJswart 3 years ago
A victim of apartheid ? Fuck off you idiot. This is not the right place to post your idiotic liberal crap.
theocpt 3 years ago
hello i'm looking for someone who was a victim of the apartheid regime and share his point of views on my channel you are all welcome ..thank you ps mandela he is my hero!
france98dude2 3 years ago
Well, do a search on the South African farmland and search for some white Boers. They can surely tell you what your hero Mandela has caused in South Africa.
(take your bulletproof vest with you)
Denizzje 3 years ago 2
't Lied is nog gezongen in het Nederlands... en zelfs in een heel archaïsch Nederlands. "Kent gij die staat..." De Afrikaanse ondertiteling lijkt me niet helemaal consequent, maar soit.
taalvanthuis 3 years ago
Whats all this kak about the Boers being from Holland. The Cape Dutch Afrikaaners helped the British fight against the Boers in the Boer war but now they the same people?
The Boers pissed off & formed their own Republic to get away from the British & Afrikaaners who were happy under Brit law
Afrikaaners had no intention of having their own indipendant land but the Boers wanted to rule themselves.
Listen to Teuns Cloete on Boerefolk radio
A guy called `Pinard7` posted them on youtube
BiltongBaz 3 years ago
Kak? Not at all, it's just the truth. The Boers were part of old Dutch settlers who first colonized the region. Then as Napoleon took over the European Netherlands the British went in 'to protect' the Dutch colonies, they never returned this one. The Boers didn't agree with that and left the Cape colony to regain their independence from the British. It's only logical to assume that part of the colonists however were happy to just continue their business under British law, so they stayed.
Khaemhet 3 years ago
The Boers arent from Dutch decent -idiot !
The Boers were made up from mostly German decent & nearly 25% French with a small amount of Dutch
6500 Germans plus 1000 Dutch -Where the hell do you get Dutch settlers decent from ? LOL
The Boers couldnt live under the Cape Dutch Afrikaaners or the British.
Afrikaaners & Boers most DEFINATELY are NOT the same people & they werent in those days either
Go learn something LOL
BiltongBaz 3 years ago
hellooo i don't hear any french or german ! i hear only some kind of dutch....
socialist100red 3 years ago
Hello you stupid kaffir ! I was saying where the Boers originally came from
I said nothing about any language prick. Boers taal doesnt exist anymore anyway. It was phased out after the Boer war
In South Africa today we only have Afrikaans & English as white languages.
BiltongBaz 3 years ago
BiltongBaz;listen you dried meat do you know what's the meaning of kaffir ? it's a unbeliever ! and the difference between you and me is that i believe and you don't ,so you fall in that line ...jij verstan mij old dutchie!!!
socialist100red 3 years ago
"the difference between you and me is that i believe and you don't"
You believe in what ? Fairies LOL
Idiot -piss off if you got nothing interesting to say.
You know nothing about SA Dutchman ,so you fall in that line ...jij verstan mij old dutchie!!!
BiltongBaz 3 years ago
i believe south africa is free from white rule you stupid boer or afrikaaner whatever you want to be call! you believe in no hope so you are the real kaffir ! en ek verstaan ook jou foken taal jou doos ! ik ben van belgie!
socialist100red 3 years ago
Then how come the language looks so much like dutch. It looks more like dutch than german.
utFryslan 3 years ago
Boers had no choice in the matter. After the war they were a destroyd nation & were forced to mix in with the majority Cape Dutch.
To call the Boers Afrikaaners is the same as calling the English Scottish.
BiltongBaz 3 years ago
But the Boers speak Afrikaans so they have some sort of dutch roots.
utFryslan 3 years ago
Call a South African a Dutchman & you will very quickly make enemies
The Boers have very few Dutch ancestors. They were the White servants of the VOC dumped at the Cape from German, Frisian & Danish decendands
These peoples later joined the French Huguenots refugees who were sent to the Cape while trying to escape political & religious persecution in France
This is why so many S Africans have French names like the AWB leader Terreblanche -is a direct descendent of these French Hs
BiltongBaz 3 years ago
Boers were the poorest people but developed their culture & traditions from this mixed group of people
Boers did not exist in another country, they were formed from a mixture of peoples on African soil making them African NOT settlers
The Boers were not a Colonial power, they were dumped there by the VOC as servants
The VOC was AGAINST the permanent presents of whites
They wanted natural outgrowth which is why the dumped servants which became the Boers are seen as African & not settlers
BiltongBaz 3 years ago
The Dutch were the 1st to oppress the Boer & the Boers 1st anti Colonial freedom struggle was against the Dutch in 1795 in the Cape
Boers became more welcome & sometimes allied with Sotho peoples who often turned to the Boers in their struggle against other local tribes
The Trek Boer adopted a nomadic life-style & prevented tribal wars when they Treked inland across the Vaal river
Boers are the decendants of the Trek Boers that trekked inland to escape the horrible Dutch & Brittish rule
BiltongBaz 3 years ago
The 1st people who arrived at the Cape spoke High Dutch or Frakonish
Afrikaans originates from Frankonish which was spoken by the servants of the VOC who were sent to the Cape
Netherland Dutch & High Dutch comes from the same Franconian roots, this is why they are similar NOT because Afrikaans comes from Dutch
The high Dutch they spoke was changed & influenced in the 17th century by the languages of other people who also came to the Cape which helped form the Afrikaans dialect
BiltongBaz 3 years ago
The Boer dialect was "Eastern Border" Afrikaans. It was band in public & schools in 1921
-because the majority of people spoke the West Cape dialect & wanted to phase out the Boers language & culture completely
But Afrikaans was also influenced by German & French & other languages too. The Dutch hated the Boer & were always on the Brittish side.
They never fought dor their freedom & were happy living under Brittish rule
BiltongBaz 3 years ago
Now every second Dutchman thinks the Boer came from Dutch decent -This is a huge insult to the Boer nation & the very reason their identity as a seperate nation has been destroyed!
According to our SA history books today Boers never even existed, this just shows how much our history has been wiped out.
The 2 cultures were very different & could not live together. There were always 3 groups of white peoples in SA
The Boer, Afrikaaners & the Brits !
BiltongBaz 3 years ago
You are a invader in South Africa, who forefather, killed, enslaved, murdered, and setup a system of oppression inorder to strip the wealth of AFRICA, for european interest. According to DNA L1,L2,L3, you are not native or indigenous to AFRICA, you are
(HAPLOTYPE R)european in origins.
Just because a robber, breaks into your house, and then has kids, that does not mean the house now belongs to the kids whos parents were the robbers. Your time is soon up.
INVASION2012 3 years ago
BiltongBaz, that comment was for you.
INVASION2012 3 years ago
Haha ! You clearly do not know a single thing about Boer history in SA. Go learn something before you write stupid comments like that!
Wow do you even know where SA ? lol I cant believe you serious! Are you honestly so stupid as to think the Boer were the oppressers of SA? & dont belong there? lol
With your theorie all white americans should go back to Europe & all blacks go back to Africa & if you go further back every1 originates in Africa so every1 should all go back to Africa anyway !
BiltongBaz 3 years ago
The Bantu are not indigenous to S Africa either so why are they running the country?
The Boers did not settle in SA from a single country, their nation, culture, language & traditions were born & developed in SA making them African & the only indiginous "white tribe" in Africa
The Boer didnt exist in any other country. They did not steal any land as they trecked away from the Dutch & British oppressive governments so they could govern themselves
BiltongBaz 3 years ago 2
The Boers trekked into the uninhabited highveld which was useless to the cattle herding Bantu because of the cold winters & lack of water for the cattle
The Boers claimed the land as their own, Boer Republics were recognised by the Netherlands, Belgium, France, America, England & Ireland
But you say they stole it LOL
They developed it until gold was discoverd & the British tried to wipe them out in the Boer war. The Boerevolk havent had any land or country of their own since 1902
BiltongBaz 3 years ago 2
Blacks flooded the Boer Republics after the Boer war to work as cheap labour on the mines.
They willingly came for work, NOT SLAVES lol
Boers are the only nation on Earth that dont have their own land. They did not STEAL anything! It is the British that stole their land
then the Cape Dutch Afrikaaners inhereted their land from the Brits, apartheid was invented by the Brits & Dutch which further oppressed the Boer people
So best you go learn some history before making stupid comments hey!
BiltongBaz 3 years ago
What is wrong with the Dutch? They showed great solidarity with the Boer Republics during the Boer wars. They never suppressed the Afrikaander people. In fact, the official language of the Boer Republics was Dutch!
Ranulf2 3 years ago
"Whats wrong with the Dutch"
Dutch power was the original oppressors of the Boer! Boers had their 1st anti-Colonial freedom struggle against the Dutch in 1795 on the Cape frontier. What solidarity are you talking about during the Boer war? The Dutch often helped the Brits fight against the Boer
The Cape Dutch Afrikaaners & Boers arent the same people & the VOC was AGAINST the creation of a permanent White presence but rather the natural outgrowth of a people who viewed Africa as their home
BiltongBaz 3 years ago
"official language of the Boer Republics was Dutch"
No it wasnt ! Boers dialect was classified as Eastern Border Afrikaans which was banned in public in 1921 when the West Cape dialect dominated. Most of the first arrivals to the Cape spoke Frankonish. Afrikaans originated from the Frankonish spoken by the servants of the VOC & it was influenced by a few other languages which helped shape the Afrikaans dialects during the 17th century
BiltongBaz 3 years ago
Frankonish was related to the common High Dutch & was a COUSIN of Dutch, Afrikaans doesnt actually come from Dutch
(& neither were the Boers mostely of Dutch decent)
Afrikaans is only similar to Dutch because Netherlands Dutch & High Dutch branched from a common Franconian root, just like Provencal & French are similar because they come from the same root
BiltongBaz 3 years ago
Boers broke all connection to Europe, this is why the Boers were not seen as settlers & did NOT speak Dutch !
If you interested in the Boer history, check out some vids on youtube... "the right perspective" posted by Pinard7. Pinard is extremely knowledgeable about the Boerevolk too
Cheers
BiltongBaz 3 years ago
And this like High Dutch didn't exist. You only have high Germanic or low Germanic or someting like it. The Afrikaans comes from the mixed languages such as maily Dutch and because of the other cultures that were sendend there under dutch rule also German, French and Indonesian
later when the british arrived it also added some english and scottish.
Why u think Vierkleur and vrystaat flag has RED WHITE BLUE in it?
Ricardothe1337 2 years ago
You might think its not important but those Germans & other poor people you are referring to, were the slaves of the VOC & from them is where the Boer nation originates from, this is why the Boers are mostly from German decent & have very little Dutch ancestry. Boers dont originate from the Dutch
These "Germans & poor people" got tired of the oppressive Dutch rulers & had their first freedom struggle against the oppressive Dutch in 1795 This is the reason for the great trek
BiltongBaz 2 years ago
The people who embarked on the Great Trek became known as Trek Boers. Boers are the descendants of these Trek Boers. The VOC were against a permanent white presence. This is why the Boer are indigenous to S Africa as a natural out-growth from the poor slaves the Voc dumped at the Cape
Those poor German servants amalgamated with the Frisian & Danish descendants & later with the French Huguenots refugees. There was never a Dutch speaking tribe in Southern Africa & Boers were never Dutch !
BiltongBaz 2 years ago
Afrikaans originated from the Frankonish spoken by those poor servants of the VOC
Afrikaans was influenced by Malay, Portuguese, German, French & Khoi in the 17th century & shaped the different Afrikaans dialects
The Boers' dialect was classified as Eastern Border Afrikaans which was removed from public in 1921 when the West Cape dialect dominated. This is the Afrikaans dialect which is spoken today
BiltongBaz 2 years ago
If you dont like the term high Dutch then call it low Germanic but the reason I first commented on here was because many Dutch people think they are related to the Boer which is simply not true
The Dutch oppressed the poor Boer nation, they stole the Boers history & right for self determination -why the hell should the Boer see the Dutch as friends. Apartheid also oppressed the Boers
The NP & ALL SAs presidents also oppressed the Boers & refused them their own land
BiltongBaz 2 years ago
did were very poor*
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BiltongBaz 2 years ago
There are many German last names in SA. Some German names still have their original spelling like Rundle, Vlok, Hoffman, Wasserman & Putter. Some German names changed, Bode & Both became Botha, Kluthe became Cloete, Grünwald became Groenewald. Gruenwald, Grunewald & Grunenwaldt all have variations of spelling too
We still have the original spelling for many French names like Joubert, Du Toit, Le Grange, Du Plessis & Roux etc but most last names were changed though
BiltongBaz 2 years ago
Many French names were respelled for example, Cronier became Cronjé, Lombard became Lombaard, Jourdan became Jordaan, Villion became Viljoen, Rousseau became Rossouw etc These are very common names in SA
We use French first names too like Charl, Louis & Jacques -remember the French Huguenots refugees made up about 25% of the Boer nation. Eugene TerreBlanche is a direct decendant of those French refugees sent to the Cape
The French influence is also where SA gets its wine making from
BiltongBaz 2 years ago
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BiltongBaz 2 years ago
But they were under the Dutch flag. the Boers are mixed but all traved under the VOC.
But I wonder... how do u Boers (I dunno if u are a boer or a other afrikaner) think about the Dutch? You might be from other countries but still without them they would probaly never exist. And the first boer was 100% Dutch. Jan van Riebeeck right?
Ricardothe1337 2 years ago
The Dutch were the original oppressors of the Boer & the Boer had their first anti- Colonial freedom struggle against the Dutch who looked down on the Boer & who made them equal to the freed slaves on the land the Boers felt was their land
The Boer were seen as an indigenous people as they were a natural outgrowth from the poorest servants who were dumped in the Cape.
BiltongBaz 2 years ago
If the servants were not taken to the Cape by the VOC then yes the Boer would not have existed but our history would have been totally different. Boers never existed in any other country, they developed from different nationalities. These servants mixed together, broke all connection to any European country & developed their own language, culture & traditions on African soil. The Boer only came into existence after the diverse group of servants had mixed together & developed as a separate nation
BiltongBaz 2 years ago
No Dutch born people are seen as Boers. Jan van Riebeeck isnt seen as a Boer. The servants had no choice but to travel under the VOC, they were forced out of their home countries which is why they were not a colonial power. The Afrikaners were the wealthier majority while the Boer were the poorer ones
I dont think any South Africans have a problem with the Dutch just dont call them a Dutchman lol I thought that the Dutch in the Netherlands actually supported the British in the Boer war ?
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Ye did checked
But the Dutch I am not sure they did support the British in that war. I heard that the Dutch and British were allies for long ages but I also heard that the Dutch queen sended a letter to Great Britian to stop attacking the Boers. It's sad that Boers are seeing as a extreme-right wing folk. saying that the Boers are racist is the same as saying that the Germans are nazies. Anyway there is now a alliance between South Africa and Holland. And that's good enough
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BiltongBaz 2 years ago
You don't know what u talkin about.
The Boers consider themself as Dutchmen in the first place.
The Transvaal flag. Red White Blue stands for their Dutch breeds while Green stands for the Boere.
Most Boers are of DUTCH decent. German is second.
If ya dont believe ya can search. But the Orange Lion will be the grandmother of the most white South Africans.
Ricardothe1337 2 years ago
And 9 of the 10 people in Holland are pro-Boer. After the ww2 many Dutch did emigrate from Holland to South Africa aswell. Today South Africa is still populair to have a vacation house in or someting like it.
Oh btw the Vrystaat flag Red white blue + orange stripes is made by a Dutch prince as present for South Africa
Ricardothe1337 2 years ago 5
as far I know they did joined the VOC because they didn't were very poor and needed to earn money. Why did trekboers used Red White and Blue together with some other colours in most of their flags? Why they didn't use a German or other? when they did added the flag they could took the german colours
Ricardothe1337 2 years ago
Some Dutch did joined the amalgamated group of servants but only made up 10% of them & theres some argument about if these people were actually Dutch but thats irrelevant
The Boer were definitely not the same people as the Cape based Afrikaners even if their were some mixing between the 2. The Boers first freedom struggle was against the oppressive Dutch rulers
The flag was designed by a Holland born man but I THINK it was designed before they started the great trek while still in the Cape
BiltongBaz 2 years ago
Flag was designed before their struggle against the Dutch rule started. Those that trekked inland were known as the trekboers. When these Trekboers settled north of the Orange river & formed the Boer Republics they became known as Boers, they adopted the Vierkleur as their flag but that doesnt mean the Boers consisted of mainly Dutch descendants though
Have you listened to the "Right perspective" vids posted by Pinard7? I dont know which 1 but it says that the Boer originate from mostly Germans
BiltongBaz 2 years ago
& yes the Boers have always been the poorest people as they developed from the poorest segment of the amalgamated group of servants.
The Cape based Afrikaners were by far the majority of the Afrikkaans speaking peoples which is why their dialect of Afrikaans is spoken today while the Boers dialect was banned from public.
Its a very controversial topic but very interesting
Its worth sending Pinard a message if you really interested in it
Cheers
BiltongBaz 2 years ago
I knew that the Vrystaat flag was made by a Dutch prince asfar I know for the boers themself. that's what someone told me. aight okay but then I wonder how about the lastnames of the afrikaners?
Ricardothe1337 2 years ago
What's your problem? where u get THAT info from the VOC? I have never read they were against it. They just didn't wanted to settle there because there was nothing to find. So they sended germans and other poor people to south africa under the dutch flag. and what they did was not importend.
Ricardothe1337 2 years ago
So hoe weet ek dan of ek 'n boer of 'n afrikaner is?
henrymartins2007 2 years ago
Mooi lied! Groetjes uit Nederland :)
LindavG 3 years ago 6
wat een mooie lied! groetjes van halve nederlander in noorwegen:-)
eivind27 3 years ago 4