The Wrath of God and The Hatred of Sin

[kyoukan102]

Bury me with my guns on.. so when I reach the other side, I can show Him what it feels like to die.

[mico0773]

@kyoukan102 ...d you think u can ever reach the other side.....

............the wrath of God.....It will be poured out on you.....

[rabbitcanfly]

@mico0773 Hehehe :) Ok.

[savana906]

God is Holy & pure He hates sin. Amen!

[rabbitcanfly]

@savana906 God is Love. How can He hate?

[savana906]

@rabbitcanfly God is love your right. But He also does hate one thing and that is sin. Because if He did not hate sin He would not of sent Jesus Christ to die on a cross in great suffering for our sins, to redeem us. This is a demonstration to humanity from God to show how much He considers horrible and ugly sin is. God sure dislikes sin because it is the oposite to what He is..... pure and Holy.

God bless you.

[enotstehw]

Spiritually immature preachers trying to explain the nature of God . . . without having a relationship with God themselves . . . how sad . . . and poor ones that swallow this . . . how sad.

[savana906]

@enotstehw This is for God to decide and NOT you! if they are spiritually immature or not.

[Dwrancho144]

there is not a drop of evidence that hell is eternal and if you think so then by all mean send my a message and I will gladly refute your argument : )

[Soldier7of7Christ]

I don't know, Jesus calls him "Father"

[glakagz]

0'25" HIS wrath 0'28" HIS rightousness 0'28" HIS holiness

0'39" adore HIM; 0'39" fear HIM 2'37" HIS wrath 2'43" HIS holy 2'54" HIS nature

3'15" HE has ..3'17" HE has

Where the beeep these guys came out that God is a HE?

[Thegreyraccoon]

@glakagz he is to suggest dominance. Like Adam was created first then eve. and man was given dominance over the earth. So saying "HE" is just a way of demonstrating dominance. Hope this helps

[glakagz]

@Thegreyraccoon That's not true, there is no God creating nor Adam neither Eve, now we know how it worked, we know how human beings came to be. That story was written so people from 6k years ago would understand the human existence, there is no proof of a the existance of a creator, therefor there is no HE, or if there is a creator, the applicable gender could perfectly be femenin (or the God could be a Goddess) in other words a She.

[Thegreyraccoon]

@glakagz That makes no sense you asked why he keeps saying HE i told you, im not here to argue about if there is a God or not, It is not up for discussion. But one thing i shall tell you

Luke 17:26 (King James Version) 26And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.

What can i say, i have become a fool in the eyes for the world, who does not even see what's around them. hahahahhahahahahah. funny right?

[glakagz]

@Thegreyraccoon well for everyone's peace of mind, and to be more gramatically correct I'd restate:

0'25" ITS wrath 0'28" ITS rightousness 0'28" ITS holiness

0'39" adore IT; 0'39" fear IT 2'37" ITS wrath 2'43" ITS holy 2'54" ITS nature

3'15" IT has ..3'17" IT has

No gender, IT does exists, no doubt about it,

[das2190]

@glakagz Where do you believe humans came from?

[glakagz]

@das2190 I invite you to watch?v=nFjwXe-pXvM : just 1 minute (from minute 2 to 3:02) That explanation of why are we here is valid for the Congo people in the same fashion that the story of Adam and Eve are valid for most of ( fundamentalist) Christianity and Judaism . There is more evidence that we have evolved into what we are than that we have been formed supernaturally from a clay mannequin, but a creation is an explanation for for people that do not know how look for answers,

[rabbitcanfly]

@glakagz Did you know that the story of Adam and Eve (called Chevah in the original Hebrew btw) is believed by most peoples except Christians to be metaphorical for the story of Satan getting kicked out of Heaven? Think about it. Immortal being gets kicked out of paradise for trying to be like God. Are you seeing what I'm seeing? Hehe this is always fun to bring up with Christians. They always look blank because their pastors don't talk about this so they don't think about it.

[glakagz]

@rabbitcanfly That is an interesting metaphor, very contradictory, muslims won't like it cuz Adam is the first prophet (out of + - 130k of them) that god(dess) allah sent to earth. We would be descendants from those two (evil ones) On top of that human were considered God's pride in the center of the known universe for thousand of years (actually we -humans- stopped believing that BS about 500 years ago).

[rabbitcanfly]

@glakagz I know :)

[k0smon]

The pastor here is attempting to impute to God human frailties. All the hatred.....

[NB3K]

@k0smon you better back. God Hates & God Loves. The only problem is humans are fallen and depraved. We love what God hates, and we hate what God loves. This does not sit well with God. I could care less how it sits with you. I fear God not man.

[k0smon]

@NB3K That is what the bible says, and you believe the bible is the word of God. It is difficult to understand a God who says He will send unbelievers to His own torture chamber, and forever too, not just till they learn their lesson. So you stick with your beliefs, and I will stick with mine till we both have reason to believe something different. Don't be so stubborn that you refuse to grow in spiritual understanding!

[NB3K]

@k0smon And where does this spiritual understanding that you belch come from? Read the Word of God and be not deceived be the wickedness of your flesh.

[k0smon]

@NB3K And where will I find this Word of God? It is not the bible!

Bible scholar Bart Ehrman says : "The bible, at the end of the day, is a very human book." When I read the bible, I read confusion and incompleteness. So you keep your bible, I will learn about God from other sources.

[NB3K]

@k0smon From where will you learn about God? Will it be from your intellect that is a treasure trove of vanity? Will you look to the sky, and see your God? No you will fashion for yourself a God that bares your image, and defraud the One True God of the Scriptures. Unless you look into the Scriptures you will not see God! Unless God reveals himself to you, you will not see Him. The best place to start would be in the Bible!

[k0smon]

@NB3K You can learn about God from nature, from eastern religions, from metaphysics, spiritualism, philosophy just to name a few. The bible gives a very skewed idea of God - he loves, he hates, he gives life,he kills, he is jealous, he is compassionate, he sends people to his torture chamber, he saves, he creates, he destroys - all mixed messages that remind one of Caligula rather than the architect of the universe.  The American Indian had a better idea, with the Great Spirit only.

[NB3K]

@k0smon No from nature, you can see God's divine attributes and His Eternal Power! But only through the Bible will one learn who God is.

[mrjdoggy]

@NB3K Wow. What a faithful response, and throbbing with Love. God bless you my friend, you're an encouragement to those who stand for truth.

[tonythatjesusloves]

i wonder if God will be angry about these churches teaching God wants you to give 10% and the rest

[quantumleap7219]

Why is it that stuff like this is almost always delivered in a southern accent?

[ecthompson99]

ChristianNewsWatch...You are mistaken. If Jesus died for all and all are not saved, then he has failed. This was His purpose, to save. As it is, Jesus died for the elect and they all will be saved. Read John 6 my friend.

I can say with full confidence that Jesus saves. You on the other hand cannot because some for whom He died will be condemned.

John 3:36 clearly teaches that those who do not believe in Christ God's wrath remains on them.

[NB3K]

@ecthompson99 Yes I agree with you, but we should invite all to the wedding feast!

[sandorr]

Oh Trust Me God WilL Do something about it...!!!

[ChristianNewsWatch]

Yep Jesus failed in His bid to die for the sins of all humanity... He tried His best, but since the Father is still pissed off at our sins then Jesus must have failed...

Yes, I'm being sarcastic, while at the same time refuting the nonsense that God is pissed off at humanity as these "teachers" speak of...

Romans 5:18

Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon ALL men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon ALL men unto justification of life.

[disease35]

He hath not. For when He died he bore all of our sins, so that power was given to Him to forgive all kinds of sins.

[k0smon]

@ChristianNewsWatch :: Would you agree with Carlton Pearson's gospel of Inclusion that all are saved whether they know it or not? It gets rid of the idea that God is going to send all who do not accept Christ to hell to burn forever. This is a sticking point to many about Christianity, that a loving God would send non believers to his everlasting torture chamber.

[Rhuanjl]

@k0smon But what about an infintely holy God who has been sinned against?

[k0smon]

@Rhuanjl  : And what 'sin' would that be?

[Rhuanjl]

@k0smon The sin committed by all of mankind as we have all rebelled against God.

[k0smon]

@Rhuanjl Speak for yourself. I have never 'rebelled' against God. I have rebelled against some of the teachings about God that I have found to be untrue, however.

[Rhuanjl]

@k0smon Thew Bible says that you're wrong... Try reading chapters one-three of the book of Romans.

[k0smon]

@Rhuanjl :: You probably believe that the bible is the word of God. I do not. I believe it is Constantine and the council of Nicea's word. I gave up Christianity many years ago, and now recognize only the Father, the Creator.

[Rhuanjl]

@k0smon How did you come to this conclusion?

[k0smon]

@Rhuanjl : Mainly from a book called Oahspe and another called "Antiquity Unveiled"

[Rhuanjl]

@k0smon how can Oahspe which was written in 1882 and Antiquity Unveiled published in 1892 be authorities on the first few centuries ad?

[bonzonobeans]

I don't ask for a god without wrath, I ask for a god that won't simply sit by, watching kids get raped over the countless centuries, and do nothing about it.

[yashua777]

are you judging our creator?

[bonzonobeans]

I didn't say that - yet.

Let me ask your heart of hearts.

Do you think it's okay that kids get raped over the centuries? Would you like god to do something about it?

The fact that god is not doing anything about it, and is apparently happy for you to be angry about kids being raped, what does that suggest to YOU about your god?

Or do you simply throw your hands up and say "kids get raped - it is the will of god"? and just ignore it?

What would you think if your own kids got raped?

[yashua777]

Humanity is deliberately ignorant of God.

because you are addicted to mutual masturbation you suppress the truth God Almighty will judje you on that and it is a mortal sin = LAKE of FIRE

[bonzonobeans]

No, much of humanity actively use logic and conclude that there is no reason for a god to exist. Using logic has nothing to do with masturbation.

Masturbation has nothing to do with god letting kids get raped.

Now, I ask you again, and this time answer my question, I will keep asking it until you answer it.

Do you think it's okay that kids get raped over the centuries? Would you like god to do something about it, or do you simply say "it is gods will that kids get raped", and leave it at that?

[yashua777]

no its not ok for kids to get raped

[bonzonobeans]

yet your god allows it to happen - by priests no less.

point made.

[3mowgli]

Depraved men are to be blamed for all suffering in this world. God ought to have utterly destroyed mankind after Adam and Eve disobeyed Him. being a good judge, He would be required to do this. but in His mercy and great plan through Christ, He showed mercy when He didn't need to. Noah ought to have been wiped out along with the rest. But God showed mercy by giving the gift of faith and counting it as righteousness. You ought thank God that you live. Roman "priests" are not men of God.

[bonzonobeans]

indeed, depraved men (and women) are to blame.

Sorry, why do I need to thank god? what is it that I am thanking him for exactly?

you assert god created me? prove it.

you assert that god exists? prove it.

If you want to try to brainwash me with your unsupported and subjective horseshit, you are going to have to try a LOT harder.

[harpazo1]

Well, our minds are pretty horrible things so a good "brainwashing" is a good thing! In all seriousness, it someone has to talk you into believing in the Lord God, then you wouldn't really be convinced anyway because in your mind it's only academic. Until the Holy Spirit brings revelation to your heart and mind concerning Christ, to argue the point is useless. At this juncture it would appear that you aren't ready to respond to the Gospel. All we can do is pray for you.

[bonzonobeans]

lol - so what you're saying is:

Until you sucessfuly brainwash people who choose to use the minds that god gave them, they will be going to hell?

Let me get this absolutely clear can I?

Since it is NOT POSSIBLE to logically prove god, the only epople who DO believe are those that willingly lie to themselves, and pretend that there IS enough evidence - other people, who use their god-given mind & choose to NOT lie to themselves, will go to hell?

What kind of asshole god do you actually have?

[harpazo1]

Hi Bonzo. What I'm saying is that when something is filthy, it usually needs to be washed, aka, our minds. May I ask what you DO believe? Can you "logically" prove what you believe? The evidence is in our hearts; that's why it's called FAITH. Faith is believing in something you can't see. There is plenty of "evidence" that I'm sure many people would share with you but it would obviously be pointless because you think they are lying to themselves anyway.

[harpazo1]

As to what kind of God I have, you can ask Him for yourself when you meet Him. I have NO DOUBT that He'll let you know EXACTLY what kind of God He is. You'll have all the evidence you need when you stand before Him. I just hope that you find that He is who He says He is and acknowledge Christ as Lord and Savior before you die. He is not willing than any should perish but that ALL should come to eternal life. That means you too!

[disease35]

Blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God.

[disease35]

Blessed are those who have not seen and yet had believe

[ajohnson57]

How TRUE!!!!!!!!!!!!

[yelnoctrebor]

Charles Leiter is great! I wish there were more of his stuff up on the net. If you ever get the chance, try to find his sermon about the Kingdom of God suffering violence. He explains tough subjects so well.

[illbehonest]

THIS IS REALLY REALLY GOOD!!!

really well explained!!!

[ArmonAika]

This was a needed message to hear. Thank you

[maggoli67]

Is that Paul Washer doing the intro?

[diligentile]

Yes

[FillTheirVoid]

I really loved how it was preached in a way in which it is said that we should adore God's wrath and that His wrath is a good and righteous thing. Thanks for posting.