Rock in Berlin "THE CHINESE AVANT-GARDE" PART.1

[madlancia]

吊爆了，什么时候摇滚能复兴。

[roy520s]

真的很牛B，现在的音乐都没劲，没意思

[dinosum]

it is difficult to understand what cui jian are singing, even for a chinese.

[zvast]

Great piece of music!

[mpzhuhaojie]

看得我眼泪差点下来，中国摇滚何时能够复活？

[rufetbey]

good

[Tiamye]

所以到最后只有崔健还在做音乐，出专辑，结果还是被主流封杀。

[Tiamye]

何勇说中国摇滚只有崔健在生活上可以自理，不是贬义，当时何勇被­逼疯，窦唯自己玩自己的音乐，张楚干脆隐居了。

[alekx58]

tai yu yuan wen zhung goa ri kuang pao ming jong wan wanfu

[songninggg]

第一首歌 可以作为汉语6级的听力题目。。

[leiting123]

@songninggg

应该是专8的水平吧。。。

[paolohou]

崔健这头型当年这可流氓的形象

[banzaofking]

曾經輝煌的中國搖滾

[guo2010]

怎么是日本的画面？

[tomatokaka]

原来古筝也可以和摇滚一起搭配，中国的音乐人要努力呀，看看现在­的都是些什么呀？

[mnykamp]

would someone consider subtitling and reposting? My chinese isn't too good and this seems really interesting.

[yunnypuff]

First segment:

Cui: I first started learning the trumpet when I was 14. Because my father was a part-time trumpeteer in the army band at the time. I joined a music and dance performance group in 1981 in Beijing, which later became the Beijing Symphonic Orchestra. Starting from '87 I left(?)... *Inaudible*

Second segment:

Cui: I feel that using a purely musical combination approach, it (the fusion of western music and Chinese music) is too formulaic and restrictive.

[yunnypuff]

Cui: Like [learning] a technique, the fusion is easily accomplished. I think a lot of people in China are (making music) this way. For example, some Chinese musicians combine the classical Chinese Beijing Opera with western music and western arrangements. But the resulting musical product is empty and lacks meaning. It's too commercialized. I believe a true combination (of Chinese and Western music) should be done through the merging of culture.

[yunnypuff]

Younger Chinese people are increasingly more aware of the west, just as younger western people become more aware of China. The result is cultural understanding and mutual influence. I believe it's the natural way When music comes together in this manner (through cultural understanding). A true musical fusion occurs when the thought process, and, in turn, the content fuse together, not simply the form. Therefore, even if two people both play the electric guitar... * cuts off *

[KthoniaEcate]

我是希腊人, 学习汉语. 崔健是天才! 我真喜欢他的音乐.! 这个乐器是古筝吗?(sorry for any mistakes...)

[guangmingmilk]

Dude, you're definitely right. CuiJian is the originatior of Chinese rock! He's great. Currently, a lotta awesome musicans and bands in China, e.g 谢天笑, 许巍,扭曲的机器, 痛苦的信仰,超载! You can listen to them~

[KthoniaEcate]

呵! 谢谢你的帮助!! greetings from greece!

[spenderhy]

是古筝

[fiddler1980]

Your Chinese is good!!! I hope my student can speak/write Chinese as you!

[nutz748]

yeah you're right...

I'm msian chinese~~

chinese by the way...

you're chinese are 棒！

[KthoniaEcate]

哪里, 我汉语说得不棒, 可是, 我努力工作!中文很难!again sorry for any mistakes.. :)

[ngai1842]

尼隊，我也是學習的，進步的這麽慢哪!

[cheukkai1993]

yes,YOU ARE right @@

[0321guoguo]

no mistakes man

是的这是古筝

[GTFrank]

@KthoniaEcate 对，是古筝。这是现场表演，和唱片的版本不一样，原来的版本里面­没有古筝。

[KthoniaEcate]

@GTFrank 啊! 谢谢! 我感激你给我的信息. 真有意思!

[GTFrank]

@KthoniaEcate 我是中国人，在伦敦学习英语，我的邻居有很多是希腊人。我也有个­希腊名字。Costas Kotsifakis，从Crete岛来。：D

[KthoniaEcate]

@GTFrank 哈哈! 对, 从Crete岛来! 我非常喜欢你的名字! 我是大学生,在雅典也学习英语.hehe! 我还没有个中文名字. ----请原谅我的错误. 汉语真难 (也真美!)-----

[huhuhulake]

@KthoniaEcate

你好，是古筝，你很聪明。加油学中文啊

[forstorage]

@KthoniaEcate 是的

[z6665836]

@KthoniaEcate 没错！ 这是古筝！ 美妙的音乐 牛逼的崔健。

[JUK003]

@KthoniaEcate I think it is GUZHENG

[snbking100]

@KthoniaEcate 是

[snbking100]

@KthoniaEcate 是

[guitarpepper]

p r china's rock??is Ridiculous, is Absurd

[13hehe]

@guitarpepper you're an idiot.

[woodyluu]

向崔健致敬

[popmaizi]

快，让我在雪地上撒点野。。那个时代，还会回来吗？

[jwj3955]

wow, they're better than i thought! except that terrible vocal

[mudekui]

我要从南走到北！！！！！

[XieTianzi]

永远的崔健！

[chi531230]

經典！認真的女人最美麗＿＿在舞台正中央的穿毛衣女子，彈奏中國­古箏，神情專注的模樣...唉！太美了！[掩蓋的美麗，依然美麗­...]

蠻像我！

老孫

[chinesejumper]

不许你这么骂崔健。

他的音乐代表一代人的情感。

[shishixin]

鄙视催贱

[tonyweier]

为什么他妈的中国摇滚乐队记录片用的是日本字幕?

why using japanese words?fucking don't understand

[summergauk]

因为日本人民对中国的音乐感兴趣？因为这是一个在日本制作的节目­？如果你用自己的脑子想一想的话，it's not so hard to "fucking understand"

[total253297389]

是日本纪录的呗,谁叫那时中国没有媒体懂得珍惜呢

不过先也没有.

[13hehe]

@tonyweier maybe because the Japanese can appreciate the Chinese rock star better than China, you know China banned him from performing for several years and censored the lyrics to one of his songs. It's a good thing the Japanese were thoughtful enough to document his Berlin tour. If you really like Cui Jian, be thankful.

[mlifsi]

他真係好堅!

[WangDianshi]

Very interesting audio & visual treat! I remember seeing an article in Chinese World Journal like more than 10 years ago about these music artists from China doing a big show in Germany, and saw a photo of Tang Dynasty band members standing on snow covered ground, apparently in Germany. I guess this was a Japanese production, since the video is presented with Japanese subtitles; does anybody know where I can find an original DVD issue?

[padrhaic]

Hello

It's a French production delivered to ARTE TV and then distributed abroad (Japanese version).

I was the executive producer and "contents" manager.

Sincerely

Patrice Galmard

[jatty911]

great job

[shinkochan2]

If there is any shame in this, it is that it came too late...Cui Jian more than earned his place in the annals of Chinese rock and roll, but why did it have to happen ten or fifteen years too late (for western observers)?

There is a serious time lag in the transmission of Chinese contemporary culture to the west. Always we are are a decade or so behind, and I partly blame myself for this.

How can we be faster on the trigger?

-C

[chinacybersheep]

Tanks for posting - that was a good show. The concert was part of the first ever China avant-garde art&music show at the House of World Cultures, Berlin. The bands went on to tour several cities in both the former eastern part and the western part of a fairly recently reunited Germany (historically seen). During the tour the bands shared the stage with some other German bands(east & west) and also played some songs together,it was a true exchange and a fantastic happening, rare then.

[adewolf]

Sound like they have been listening to more than the usual rock music from the west. Interesting that some of my fave rock (Gong, Yes, Magma, Rush, 5UUs.....etc) bands are influenced by Eastern music. Thanks for posting.

[yy826]

great!

[stanlikubrick]

fucking great chinese rock!!!

[sevenchao]

谁的声音那么低?...

[mudekui]

bloodly touching

[stanlikubrick]

THE REAL MAN!

[cohen1934]

What a shame that it takes the Japanese to preserve the greatest contemporary Chinese music.

[drcarnage83]

it's alive and well... just not in the mainstream.

[gxytj]

what did you mean shame? you are too radical!

[necrohydra]

I think he's trying to say that it's a shame chinese failed to preserve their own music with no emphasis on japanese.

Your too radical by picking this up.

[HLTVpro]

he's right. you guys should know a lil bit history because back then our government wasn't too happy about cui's music. have you seen the chinese version of this concert? i haven't.

[66QQ66]

Just because the government wasn't happy, their music becomes really socially rebellious, rather than quickly commercialized (like the Western rock) and lost its connection with their people

[qq57439621]

the pioneer of chinese rock ，indeed

[Dragoncache]

Thanks dinzzz414 for posting this...

[noir123]

WOW!!!

[LordPist]

awesome festival, anybody knows where to buy chinese rock albums?

[vvaccine]

u gotta go to beijing man ．．．　

[sgtjoker70]

What can I say ? Legend of CHINESE ROCK

[philipless22]

CUI JIAN ..l love

[fuckGFW]

Great band! Really graet!!

[striker320]

the leading singer's name is cui jian, the pioneer of chinese rock

[camayme]

what is the name of this band?

[gibeidu]

JUST "CUI JIAN"--THE MAN'S NAME

[biginhot]

i gona call u god!

[onlypig]

the female Zheng performer's name is Fan Weiqing.

[dazzauptown]

NIUBI

[ounansuper]

NB?!

[biginhot]

i call this NB for sure!!!

[biginhot]

the best!