Ireland is not part of Britain at all its an English myth! The way Irish people feel about England imposing itself on Ireland is like a young girl that was kidnapped by a horrid monster this monster raped and beat this young girl for a long time but finally the young girl breaks free form the monster that is England and the monster has to have a keep sake i.e. the north of Ireland to remind itself of its sexual fantasies on the young girl it had raped for 800 years and has such a fantasy
@tinamc881 People forget the English introduced Catholicism to Ireland when England was still a Catholic country! We were following a papal command. What an irony, you are following a religion which we imposed on you. I am Sorry about that. I'm a Protestant by the way which helps ease my conscience.
@hernhillrebel You ought to watch a good documentary by the BBC entitled 'How the Celts saved Britain'. It's all about Early Christianity in Ireland and Britain. Well actually most religions are generally imposed upon populations for greed, power and control. Protestantism and Catholicism is moreorless the same superstitious nonsense, interesting yes but still crap. Also clearing your conscience. The Anglican Church was founded by a man, Henry VIII who pales compared to the character of Jesus.
@GaeilgeSpraoi Thanks, I'll try to find it. I'm sure you would agree though the Protestant Reformation did away with tonnes of superstitious nonsense. Henry VIII was an appalling and unchristian man, whose actions can be described as evil with reagard to his wives. However, the one good thing he did was to break with Rome and free this country from one form of tyranny, although a tyrant himself!
@hernhillrebel Well the Protestant Reformation did a lot of great things such as exposing the Catholic Church for what it really was and attempting to return to an early form of Christianity centred in the individual and their connection to God than on an institutionalised church from Rome. But men are often power hungry and now many Protestant sects aren't so different from Catholicism. Well I'm Irish and Catholic vs Protestant has ripped apart this country for too long so I opt for neither! ^^
@hernhillrebel Well you should certainly watch that documentary, it's here on YouTube. Although it stops just at the point of England accepting Roman Catholic rule.
this innocent young girl keeps calling her his little girl i.e. British isles IRELAND IS NOTHING TO DO WITH ENGLAND AT ALL WE DONT WANT YOU SO GO AWAY AND DIE YOU HORRID MONSTER !
I think you mean Britain, not England. Most Irish people (certainly the ones I know) don't blame the British people of today for the actions of the past.
it's not rocket science, & you even put in a dig about scotland.
looking up the internet i cannot locate a map of england unattached from the rest of britain, there's plenty of british maps called, oddly enough, england.
It's very difficult to show the whole of England with a Physical map, within a rectangle without including bits of other countries. This why I zoomed into Wales to clarify it was in the image.
I tried a google image search and found several maps showing England on it's own.
it's simple just trim around the english border & hey presto! you've got it.
really really simple.
also love to know where you found the map of england ON IT'S OWN, i checked out dozens, not one, all ''attached'' to britain. or called england but was in fact britain.
Oops! i got one fact wrong the Tri-colour flag was flown for the first time from the General Post Office in Dublin in 1916 during the Easter Uprising. 1922 was when the Republic was formed and Michael Collins was tricked into signing his own death warrant. Ireland, be it the North or the Republic has never been part of Britain!! It has been (the Republic) or is in a union (the North) with Britain but not part of.
... although Ireland were seen as a intergral part of the union, electing 105 MPs to Westminster.
At one point Calais even elected an MP - though this was before the act of union was signed (so at the time westminster only made laws for England... and Wales... and Cornwall... and Calais).
I believe the Republic of Ireland is not part of Britain or the U.K. Northern Ireland is not part of Britain, but is part of the U.K. Hence when the Lions play rugby abroad they are called the British & Irish Lions, Britain is Scotland, Wales, England and Cornwall, the mainland countries
It changes over time. - Ireland used to be part of britain... that's why there's 'st patricks cross' on the union flag. They elected MPs to westminster just like Wales, Scotland, NI and England do now.
When they were in the union, they were, by far, the poorest part of it... suffering famine, emmigration, etc.
- now they've left, they're 40% richer than those left in & Irish culture is known and celebrated the world over.
Well done Ireland. Wales needs to take a leaf out of your book
The union flag is a flag representing the union of Great Britain and Ireland (act of union 1800) since 1922 when the tri colour flag of the Republic of Ireland was flown for the first time from the post office in Dublin, Ireland is no longer in a union with Britain, Northern Ireland is and the unionists fly the red cross on a white border. To call it St Patrick's cross doesn't go down too well in the Republic and i don't think you'll see any of those flags on St Patrick's day.
True - I can't speak for England but I hardly ever see a union flag here in Wales... There are none in the town I live and only 2 in the nearest city (Swansea) - one the prison and the council offices!
All the different flags can get confusing! outside the welsh assembly there's the national flag, union flag and European flag... I think it's time we got rid of one of them!
No it wouldn't. Not all the islands are completely Celtic but all the islands are British. Ireland has just as much claim on the title British as any other nation within the British Isles. British has always ment both main islands, long before there even was a United Kingdom. An alternative name if such a thing was needed could be Anglo-Celtic Islands.
Hey..??? Ireland isnt a british ilse?? For gods sake Cant these people ever let go? Oh yes neither is northern Ireland a british Ilse as its not an Isle. this very political name pretending to be geographical was introduced by the victorian Brits when they owned Ireland. Ireland is now free a very long time & rejects this fake naming of two groups of islands as one.
As much as I admire your enthusiasm (and that of others in these comments), I think your efforts are somewhat misdirected.
Attacking some random guy, who (over a year ago) threw together a slightly un-PC video together and posted it on youtube isn't going to get you anywhere.
How many letters of protest have you written to tv companies, map publishers, internet mapping sites etc who all do the same thing?
If you want to have more of a voice go stand in an election, that's how democracy works.
yep, tho its not much troble putting a comment here & there as I flip through watching stuff that catches my eye.What you sugest sounds like much more effort than just passing comment when I bump into dumb stuff. thanks tho for ur thoughts.
Yes Ireland is a British Isle. British Isles is a geographical term that has existed for thousands of years. It wasn't the British that came up with the name lol. It has always ment both Great Britain and Ireland. The Romans called Ireland Little Britain. It only took on an additional political meaning when all the nations in the British Isles were finally politically united. However since 1949 it has only had the geographical meaning once more.
Names and terms change over time. The reason why British Isles is being used less and less is because it could be confused as being political in meaning. Do you expect foreigners to understand subtle nuances? You Brits know full well and secretly wish you still could claim Eire as your own. But, you have to move on and stop hankering after the past, dear boy!
You can stick the British Isles where the sun don't shine, you arrogant English prick. Ireland isn't a British Isle. "Cor blimey mate, oi tink of us all de same cos we speak engloish loike"...ye make us speak English during the 19th century. Arrogant twats...
The point being made is that the Impirial name British Isles realy deos NOT include Ireland anymore.... Canada IS in the continent of north america...now I think we have cleared that up.
Actually there are many more islands besides Ireland and Great Britain. In fact the majority of the Gaelic speakers in Scotland live off the mainland I believe.
Actually Ireland is part of the British Isles, I think you may be thinking of Great Britain itself, if it were just Great Britain the island, I don't think the area would be known as the British ISLES.
Geographically it was wrong to call ireland a british isle. Its old terminology from the days of the empire and was political. The romans called eng, scot, and wales britannia and called ireland hibernia. The two main islands are Ireland and britain. Ireland is an irish isle.
Geographically it is correct (see America and Canada for a similar example). Politically the Republic of Ireland is not part of the UK as I stated in my description.
I never said I agreed with it. Just presenting the general (if outdated) view objectively.
Geographically it is incorrect as ther is a sea inbetween ireland and britain. It is like sayin the empire still exists or sayin that it shud b the irish isles. The british lions are now called the british and irish lions.We in ireland arent british have never wanted to be british so we dont like it if our ireland is labelled british by bbc, british maps etc.
Hm, Well when i last checked union jacks were flying all over Douglas, Peel, Castletown ect. And on the maps its marked UK...(idont want to bring up a fight) Im just telling you what i see. =)
Geographically it is part of the British Isles. It is a crown dependency. Effectively a territory in local waters and not part of the UK. There are several lengthy pages on the subject on wikipedia.
The Isle of Man is NOT part of the UK. Do the Irish think British = UK? British Columbia, Isle of Man, Bermuda, Falkland Islands etc...neither of these places are in the UK but that doesn't make them not British! Same with Ireland...both British AND part of the British Isles. Ireland is one of the four home British nations of the British Isles. Just becuase most of Ireland is no longer POLITICALLY British, doesn't mean it can't be British in other ways! British has multiple meanings!
I'm sorry my disgusting video has upset you. Please rewatch the video and read my other responses and you'll see I never referred to the Republic of Ireland as part of the UK nor do I consider it as such.
Firstly it was not my intention to offend anyone. My video is just a quick guide to the geographic layout and main political entities and is somewhat simplistic.
Yes the term is outdated but it is historical and still common although not very accurate or PC (do a comparison google image search for "British Isles" and "Irish Isles" to get a better idea).
It is similar to how certain people often use the terms (North) America and the USA as interchangeable although most of North America is Canada.
The only thing that is outdated is using British Isles as a political term, but who does that anyway? The fact is both British and British Isles were first a geographical term and British Isles has been solely a geographical term for nearly 90% of the time the term has been in use.
The term comes from the first people to inhabit the isles, the British (i.e the Welsh today) The name comes from the first king of the Cymry, Brenin Brutus Prydain. He ruled the island from London, which was called Troia Newydd (New Troy also called Nova Trinavantium in Latin) the island was divided between his three sons on his death. Albanus (named after the old name for Britain, Alban) got north Britain, Locrinus got the south and Kamber got the west. They founded 32 other cities in Britain.
Publications in Ireland abolished the term since independence and many other international publications have refrained from using it in respect of its misleading political connotations. The atlas I have here in Canada says "British and Irish Isles".
It's an old term from the British empire that no longer reflects the current political situation on the islands.
You might consider adding that small fact to your video when you hover over the Republic.
It doesn't matter what the political situation in the British Isles is because British Isles is not a political term! It existed solely as a geographical one for many years before Ireland and Great Britain were United, then it also took on the additional political meaning. Now it is just a geographical term again and no one is claiming otherwise!
It a clever idea but the video has one big problem - the fact that the British Isles is not used or recognised by the Irish Government, and the term is generally seen as insulting by many Irish people considering their bloody past and struggle for independence from Britain. (continued below..)
The revionists dont like the term however it should be remembered the following: British was first and foremost a geographical term and existed solely as such for many hundreds of years. It only started taking on a political one when England and Scotland were United. British Isles only took on a political term in 1801 when the islands were finally united politically. British means different things depending on context and the current context of British Isles has reverted to a geographical one.
Hey man dont be putting Ireland up as part of the British isles you idoit, Northern Ireland is part of Great Britian yes but not the republic even as british isles im totally not having that.
If you watch again, you'll see the video does not say it was part of Great Britain, it says Northern Ireland is part of the UK. The UK and GB are not the same thing.
Exactly and Great Britain and Britain are not the same thing either! Geographically for example, Britain means the British Isles which includes all of Ireland, and politically at present, Britain means the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
You're the idiot! British Isles is the name of the archipelago to which both Great Britain and Ireland belong. Always has been and always will be whether you are having it or not!
What about Cornwall? I like how the the UK is presented in an archiac fashion, which is appropriate as the UK as a political reality is on deaths door. Eire, Alba and Cymru - your time from freedom is now!
Interesting interpretation. I didn't deliberately create any metaphorical meaning, I just wanted something that looked like an old "educational" film reel type of thing. Looking again, I suppose it has a touch of the old empire feel about it.
Eire is not a republic! Eire = Ireland in Irish. Only 26 counties of the island of Ireland are a republic the other 6 counties are part of the United Kingdom.
The UK is hardly on deaths door. Perhaps the Republic maybe though? It certainly was before it joined the EU and received massive handouts from Europe to prop up its seperatist regime. There is no major support in either Ulster, England, Scotland or Wales for independence. It is obvious why the Irish are keen to purpotrate this myth that the UK is dying though. The breakup of the UK would give justification for them remaining outside of it. At the moment they look like the odd ones out!
Maybe you live under a rock, but Scottish independence is growing by the day, Northern Ireland is very slowly gravitating towards a United Ireland and Welsh nationalism is very slowing awakening. Ireland doesn't feel like the odd one out at all, no more than Iceland or Norway do. Why would we when we have absolutely no feeling towards being part of the UK. Would England want to be part of France? I doubt it. I really don't know what you're smoking, but tell me where I can get it!!!
I meant that the term is not a welcome expression in Ireland - would you describe Ireland as an off-shore island of Britain (so making Britain the mainland)?
No not Ireland, I apologise for not being explicit about referring to Great Britain, I did say the smaller islands and Ireland is certainly not a small island.
The 'British isles' term isn't used in Ireland. The name is discouraged in the UK. Britain and Ireland is just fine
BanjoMan1916 6 months ago 2
Ireland is not part of Britain at all its an English myth! The way Irish people feel about England imposing itself on Ireland is like a young girl that was kidnapped by a horrid monster this monster raped and beat this young girl for a long time but finally the young girl breaks free form the monster that is England and the monster has to have a keep sake i.e. the north of Ireland to remind itself of its sexual fantasies on the young girl it had raped for 800 years and has such a fantasy
tinamc881 2 years ago 4
@tinamc881 People forget the English introduced Catholicism to Ireland when England was still a Catholic country! We were following a papal command. What an irony, you are following a religion which we imposed on you. I am Sorry about that. I'm a Protestant by the way which helps ease my conscience.
hernhillrebel 1 year ago
@hernhillrebel You ought to watch a good documentary by the BBC entitled 'How the Celts saved Britain'. It's all about Early Christianity in Ireland and Britain. Well actually most religions are generally imposed upon populations for greed, power and control. Protestantism and Catholicism is moreorless the same superstitious nonsense, interesting yes but still crap. Also clearing your conscience. The Anglican Church was founded by a man, Henry VIII who pales compared to the character of Jesus.
GaeilgeSpraoi 1 year ago
@GaeilgeSpraoi Thanks, I'll try to find it. I'm sure you would agree though the Protestant Reformation did away with tonnes of superstitious nonsense. Henry VIII was an appalling and unchristian man, whose actions can be described as evil with reagard to his wives. However, the one good thing he did was to break with Rome and free this country from one form of tyranny, although a tyrant himself!
hernhillrebel 1 year ago
@hernhillrebel Well the Protestant Reformation did a lot of great things such as exposing the Catholic Church for what it really was and attempting to return to an early form of Christianity centred in the individual and their connection to God than on an institutionalised church from Rome. But men are often power hungry and now many Protestant sects aren't so different from Catholicism. Well I'm Irish and Catholic vs Protestant has ripped apart this country for too long so I opt for neither! ^^
GaeilgeSpraoi 1 year ago
@hernhillrebel Well you should certainly watch that documentary, it's here on YouTube. Although it stops just at the point of England accepting Roman Catholic rule.
GaeilgeSpraoi 1 year ago
this innocent young girl keeps calling her his little girl i.e. British isles IRELAND IS NOTHING TO DO WITH ENGLAND AT ALL WE DONT WANT YOU SO GO AWAY AND DIE YOU HORRID MONSTER !
tinamc881 2 years ago
I think you mean Britain, not England. Most Irish people (certainly the ones I know) don't blame the British people of today for the actions of the past.
SuperTrekNerd 2 years ago
you've called england n' wales -- england!
it's not rocket science, & you even put in a dig about scotland.
looking up the internet i cannot locate a map of england unattached from the rest of britain, there's plenty of british maps called, oddly enough, england.
anyone help?
NewsHeadlineScoop 3 years ago
It's very difficult to show the whole of England with a Physical map, within a rectangle without including bits of other countries. This why I zoomed into Wales to clarify it was in the image.
I tried a google image search and found several maps showing England on it's own.
soupdragon1971 3 years ago
it's simple just trim around the english border & hey presto! you've got it.
really really simple.
also love to know where you found the map of england ON IT'S OWN, i checked out dozens, not one, all ''attached'' to britain. or called england but was in fact britain.
NewsHeadlineScoop 2 years ago
F**k yer union jack, we want oor country back!
Alba gu brath!
gaztf71 3 years ago
Well said.
Twll tin pob Sais
MethuCysgu 2 years ago
Oops! i got one fact wrong the Tri-colour flag was flown for the first time from the General Post Office in Dublin in 1916 during the Easter Uprising. 1922 was when the Republic was formed and Michael Collins was tricked into signing his own death warrant. Ireland, be it the North or the Republic has never been part of Britain!! It has been (the Republic) or is in a union (the North) with Britain but not part of.
kernowmitch 3 years ago
the south is the Republic and the north is the kingdom
converter7 3 years ago
read it properly, that's what i said
kernowmitch 3 years ago
Beleive me i know the difference
kernowmitch 3 years ago
lol, I know :D You know more then most people on here, but I wouldn't expect anything less from someone from Cernow/Kernow; England maybe ;)
converter7 3 years ago
... although Ireland were seen as a intergral part of the union, electing 105 MPs to Westminster.
At one point Calais even elected an MP - though this was before the act of union was signed (so at the time westminster only made laws for England... and Wales... and Cornwall... and Calais).
richardeast 3 years ago
I believe the Republic of Ireland is not part of Britain or the U.K. Northern Ireland is not part of Britain, but is part of the U.K. Hence when the Lions play rugby abroad they are called the British & Irish Lions, Britain is Scotland, Wales, England and Cornwall, the mainland countries
kernowmitch 3 years ago
It changes over time. - Ireland used to be part of britain... that's why there's 'st patricks cross' on the union flag. They elected MPs to westminster just like Wales, Scotland, NI and England do now.
When they were in the union, they were, by far, the poorest part of it... suffering famine, emmigration, etc.
- now they've left, they're 40% richer than those left in & Irish culture is known and celebrated the world over.
Well done Ireland. Wales needs to take a leaf out of your book
richardeast 3 years ago
The union flag is a flag representing the union of Great Britain and Ireland (act of union 1800) since 1922 when the tri colour flag of the Republic of Ireland was flown for the first time from the post office in Dublin, Ireland is no longer in a union with Britain, Northern Ireland is and the unionists fly the red cross on a white border. To call it St Patrick's cross doesn't go down too well in the Republic and i don't think you'll see any of those flags on St Patrick's day.
kernowmitch 3 years ago
True - I can't speak for England but I hardly ever see a union flag here in Wales... There are none in the town I live and only 2 in the nearest city (Swansea) - one the prison and the council offices!
All the different flags can get confusing! outside the welsh assembly there's the national flag, union flag and European flag... I think it's time we got rid of one of them!
richardeast 3 years ago
Agreed. The day the sickening sight of the blue red and white flag disappears from my life will be the day I cry of happiness for the first time
MethuCysgu 2 years ago
The celtic isles would be a more appropriate name
muiris89 3 years ago 2
Or Angloceltic Isles.
bacabu30 3 years ago
No it wouldn't. Not all the islands are completely Celtic but all the islands are British. Ireland has just as much claim on the title British as any other nation within the British Isles. British has always ment both main islands, long before there even was a United Kingdom. An alternative name if such a thing was needed could be Anglo-Celtic Islands.
up2r0506 3 years ago
Yes it would. The 'Anglo' part of Angloceltic refers to the non-Celts of the UK & Ireland. Are you retarded?
bacabu30 3 years ago
Hey..??? Ireland isnt a british ilse?? For gods sake Cant these people ever let go? Oh yes neither is northern Ireland a british Ilse as its not an Isle. this very political name pretending to be geographical was introduced by the victorian Brits when they owned Ireland. Ireland is now free a very long time & rejects this fake naming of two groups of islands as one.
luckiegit 4 years ago 3
As much as I admire your enthusiasm (and that of others in these comments), I think your efforts are somewhat misdirected.
Attacking some random guy, who (over a year ago) threw together a slightly un-PC video together and posted it on youtube isn't going to get you anywhere.
How many letters of protest have you written to tv companies, map publishers, internet mapping sites etc who all do the same thing?
If you want to have more of a voice go stand in an election, that's how democracy works.
soupdragon1971 4 years ago
yep, tho its not much troble putting a comment here & there as I flip through watching stuff that catches my eye.What you sugest sounds like much more effort than just passing comment when I bump into dumb stuff. thanks tho for ur thoughts.
luckiegit 4 years ago
Yes Ireland is a British Isle. British Isles is a geographical term that has existed for thousands of years. It wasn't the British that came up with the name lol. It has always ment both Great Britain and Ireland. The Romans called Ireland Little Britain. It only took on an additional political meaning when all the nations in the British Isles were finally politically united. However since 1949 it has only had the geographical meaning once more.
up2r0506 3 years ago
Names and terms change over time. The reason why British Isles is being used less and less is because it could be confused as being political in meaning. Do you expect foreigners to understand subtle nuances? You Brits know full well and secretly wish you still could claim Eire as your own. But, you have to move on and stop hankering after the past, dear boy!
bacabu30 3 years ago 2
Keep Northern Ireland British! Rule Britannia Belfast boy
tone999 4 years ago
Oh noooooo!
bacabu30 3 years ago
I might have considered including Cornwall.
breezeman199 4 years ago 2
You can stick the British Isles where the sun don't shine, you arrogant English prick. Ireland isn't a British Isle. "Cor blimey mate, oi tink of us all de same cos we speak engloish loike"...ye make us speak English during the 19th century. Arrogant twats...
offalyfaithful 4 years ago 5
Do you think Canadians are sooo irate about living in the continent of America?
Politics and geography are two different matters, that's why we have political and physical maps.
and BTW I'm not English and BTW I didn't say I agreed with it being called a British Isle.
soupdragon1971 4 years ago
The point being made is that the Impirial name British Isles realy deos NOT include Ireland anymore.... Canada IS in the continent of north america...now I think we have cleared that up.
luckiegit 4 years ago
Actually there are many more islands besides Ireland and Great Britain. In fact the majority of the Gaelic speakers in Scotland live off the mainland I believe.
soupdragon1971 4 years ago
Actually Ireland is part of the British Isles, I think you may be thinking of Great Britain itself, if it were just Great Britain the island, I don't think the area would be known as the British ISLES.
haelionis 4 years ago
get out of Ireland!
crew1983 4 years ago
I'm not in Ireland!
soupdragon1971 4 years ago
IRELAND IS NOT A BRITISH ISLE.
tombarry1921 4 years ago 8
Please read the description and previous comments. Geographically it is generally considered as such.
soupdragon1971 4 years ago
Geographically it was wrong to call ireland a british isle. Its old terminology from the days of the empire and was political. The romans called eng, scot, and wales britannia and called ireland hibernia. The two main islands are Ireland and britain. Ireland is an irish isle.
tombarry1921 4 years ago
Geographically it is correct (see America and Canada for a similar example). Politically the Republic of Ireland is not part of the UK as I stated in my description.
I never said I agreed with it. Just presenting the general (if outdated) view objectively.
soupdragon1971 4 years ago
Geographically it is incorrect as ther is a sea inbetween ireland and britain. It is like sayin the empire still exists or sayin that it shud b the irish isles. The british lions are now called the british and irish lions.We in ireland arent british have never wanted to be british so we dont like it if our ireland is labelled british by bbc, british maps etc.
tombarry1921 4 years ago
I think we'll just have to agree to disagree on this subject.
soupdragon1971 4 years ago
Hm, Well when i last checked union jacks were flying all over Douglas, Peel, Castletown ect. And on the maps its marked UK...(idont want to bring up a fight) Im just telling you what i see. =)
Mithguard 4 years ago
I'm quite happy to debate the issue.
I wouldn't know about specific flags I've never been but probably has more to do with the administrative ties to the UK.
There are many reasons why it's not officially part of the UK. I would say the main one is the IOM has no representation in UK parliament.
Surely to count as part of the UK it would have to be part of a parliamentary constituency?
soupdragon1971 4 years ago
Isle of Man actually is part of the UK
Mithguard 4 years ago 2
Geographically it is part of the British Isles. It is a crown dependency. Effectively a territory in local waters and not part of the UK. There are several lengthy pages on the subject on wikipedia.
soupdragon1971 4 years ago
The Isle of Man is NOT part of the UK. Do the Irish think British = UK? British Columbia, Isle of Man, Bermuda, Falkland Islands etc...neither of these places are in the UK but that doesn't make them not British! Same with Ireland...both British AND part of the British Isles. Ireland is one of the four home British nations of the British Isles. Just becuase most of Ireland is no longer POLITICALLY British, doesn't mean it can't be British in other ways! British has multiple meanings!
up2r0506 3 years ago
This is incorrect. Ireland (Rep of) is NOT a home nation of Britain. Get an education.
bacabu30 3 years ago 6
lol i loved that! it was like being back in high school geography lol! jamie x
jamiebrown87 4 years ago
How did you record Google Earth as a vid?? Coinneach
CoinneachOBradaigh 4 years ago
that music has a painful pitch, might want to fix that, good vid though
rynigma8 5 years ago
bravo
usernamealredytaken 5 years ago
Fair enough thats fine, i just find that term very misleading.
ryaner1888 5 years ago
That is completely disgusting. The "Rupublic" of Ireland is 100% independent to the UK and i seriously find that term extremely offensive.
ryaner1888 5 years ago
I'm sorry my disgusting video has upset you. Please rewatch the video and read my other responses and you'll see I never referred to the Republic of Ireland as part of the UK nor do I consider it as such.
soupdragon1971 5 years ago
Well I thought it was quite good !
aarongilpin 5 years ago
Thank you.
soupdragon1971 5 years ago
Sorry, I posted those messages in the wrong order! doh!
FearAndLoathingInDub 5 years ago
It's okay I think they came out correctly.
Firstly it was not my intention to offend anyone. My video is just a quick guide to the geographic layout and main political entities and is somewhat simplistic.
(cont..)
soupdragon1971 5 years ago
Yes the term is outdated but it is historical and still common although not very accurate or PC (do a comparison google image search for "British Isles" and "Irish Isles" to get a better idea).
It is similar to how certain people often use the terms (North) America and the USA as interchangeable although most of North America is Canada.
soupdragon1971 5 years ago
The only thing that is outdated is using British Isles as a political term, but who does that anyway? The fact is both British and British Isles were first a geographical term and British Isles has been solely a geographical term for nearly 90% of the time the term has been in use.
up2r0506 3 years ago
The term comes from the first people to inhabit the isles, the British (i.e the Welsh today) The name comes from the first king of the Cymry, Brenin Brutus Prydain. He ruled the island from London, which was called Troia Newydd (New Troy also called Nova Trinavantium in Latin) the island was divided between his three sons on his death. Albanus (named after the old name for Britain, Alban) got north Britain, Locrinus got the south and Kamber got the west. They founded 32 other cities in Britain.
converter7 3 years ago
Publications in Ireland abolished the term since independence and many other international publications have refrained from using it in respect of its misleading political connotations. The atlas I have here in Canada says "British and Irish Isles".
It's an old term from the British empire that no longer reflects the current political situation on the islands.
You might consider adding that small fact to your video when you hover over the Republic.
FearAndLoathingInDub 5 years ago
It doesn't matter what the political situation in the British Isles is because British Isles is not a political term! It existed solely as a geographical one for many years before Ireland and Great Britain were United, then it also took on the additional political meaning. Now it is just a geographical term again and no one is claiming otherwise!
up2r0506 3 years ago
It a clever idea but the video has one big problem - the fact that the British Isles is not used or recognised by the Irish Government, and the term is generally seen as insulting by many Irish people considering their bloody past and struggle for independence from Britain. (continued below..)
FearAndLoathingInDub 5 years ago
The revionists dont like the term however it should be remembered the following: British was first and foremost a geographical term and existed solely as such for many hundreds of years. It only started taking on a political one when England and Scotland were United. British Isles only took on a political term in 1801 when the islands were finally united politically. British means different things depending on context and the current context of British Isles has reverted to a geographical one.
up2r0506 3 years ago
British refered originally to the native Celts living on the island of Britain. They were pushed west and the Welsh are the true Britons.
bacabu30 3 years ago
Hey man dont be putting Ireland up as part of the British isles you idoit, Northern Ireland is part of Great Britian yes but not the republic even as british isles im totally not having that.
tr4pper 5 years ago
If you watch again, you'll see the video does not say it was part of Great Britain, it says Northern Ireland is part of the UK. The UK and GB are not the same thing.
soupdragon1971 5 years ago
Exactly and Great Britain and Britain are not the same thing either! Geographically for example, Britain means the British Isles which includes all of Ireland, and politically at present, Britain means the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
up2r0506 3 years ago
You're the idiot! British Isles is the name of the archipelago to which both Great Britain and Ireland belong. Always has been and always will be whether you are having it or not!
up2r0506 3 years ago
What about Cornwall? I like how the the UK is presented in an archiac fashion, which is appropriate as the UK as a political reality is on deaths door. Eire, Alba and Cymru - your time from freedom is now!
nighttraintotula 5 years ago
Interesting interpretation. I didn't deliberately create any metaphorical meaning, I just wanted something that looked like an old "educational" film reel type of thing. Looking again, I suppose it has a touch of the old empire feel about it.
soupdragon1971 5 years ago
Eh, Éire is already an independant country and has been for almost a century. Tuaisceart Éireann, Alba and Cymru are not.
learnirish 5 years ago
I referred to Eire as a republic. I apologise for any ambiguity.
soupdragon1971 5 years ago
Eire is not a republic! Eire = Ireland in Irish. Only 26 counties of the island of Ireland are a republic the other 6 counties are part of the United Kingdom.
up2r0506 3 years ago
Eire is a Republic. Eire politically refers to the 26 counties.
bacabu30 3 years ago
The UK is hardly on deaths door. Perhaps the Republic maybe though? It certainly was before it joined the EU and received massive handouts from Europe to prop up its seperatist regime. There is no major support in either Ulster, England, Scotland or Wales for independence. It is obvious why the Irish are keen to purpotrate this myth that the UK is dying though. The breakup of the UK would give justification for them remaining outside of it. At the moment they look like the odd ones out!
up2r0506 3 years ago
Maybe you live under a rock, but Scottish independence is growing by the day, Northern Ireland is very slowly gravitating towards a United Ireland and Welsh nationalism is very slowing awakening. Ireland doesn't feel like the odd one out at all, no more than Iceland or Norway do. Why would we when we have absolutely no feeling towards being part of the UK. Would England want to be part of France? I doubt it. I really don't know what you're smoking, but tell me where I can get it!!!
bacabu30 3 years ago 2
"mainland" ... hmmmm
sonyyouth 5 years ago
I was generalising a bit but yes. Europe is usually referred to either as the Continent or European mainland.
soupdragon1971 5 years ago
I meant that the term is not a welcome expression in Ireland - would you describe Ireland as an off-shore island of Britain (so making Britain the mainland)?
sonyyouth 5 years ago
No not Ireland, I apologise for not being explicit about referring to Great Britain, I did say the smaller islands and Ireland is certainly not a small island.
soupdragon1971 5 years ago
Well done. great video. Did you notice how Wales looks like a pigs head?
Take Care,
Health & Happiness,
Regards,
Andy
scrumsrus 5 years ago
Hmmm... now that you mention it :)
soupdragon1971 5 years ago