Your reply to boneofthewang was beautifully said, every note is like a beam of light and the sung noe is like a prism thats an amazing way of putting it
this is realy nice.... its fairly bright with a dark kind of characteristic to it to. or so it would sound. nice job dude.... some lip slurs and flexibility excersices might work out the air-sound in your tone and overall sound, and some tounguing practice could be in order also..... sounds very dull and sluggish and not clean.... but overall nice job. just dont buzz on themuthpiece... or thats what i would say. i find it very helpful not to. but very nic job and keep up the great mork
Play a low F# out in 5th, and sing the same pitch as tuning Bb, which is the first pitch played in this recording. The C# pops out on its own as an overtone. If you crank up the volume on the multiphonics, you can 4 or 5 distinct tones making up the chord. I think of the played note as a beam of light. It contains all the overtones in a pitch series. The sung note is like a prism, and it splits the note up into the 4 or 5 overtones that make the chord. I like 1:28 best!
Yeah, you should try one sometime! The shape has to do with the fact that the rim is rounded off, and not flat. So the cone shape curves into the cup, rather than having the sharp angles that a bach mouthpiece has. This can give some players a tremendous amount of flexibility, because you can move the mouthpiece around a little more and still maintain contact on your lips.
I got a degree in criminal justice at UMASS amherst, USA, and I also earned a minor in Japanese. I studied trombone with a teacher on the side there for a year; his name was David Sporny. Great guy!
They're all a little different. I know for a fact that if you play a 5G, the 5CL will be too small for you. Try the 4CL. This will have a wider throat than a 5G however, so it might take more air. The 2CL has a little wider rim, and an even wider throat. You can play EXTREMELY loud on a 2CL without your sound going blatty. The rims are all very rounded, so the harder you press, the smaller the rim becomes. Very unique and not for everyone.
Hey man, I'm putting up a video about "How to Play Blue bells of Scotland" soon. The whole thing should be there, even if it is broken up into pieces. I'm having trouble finding an accompanist and getting my sound system set up. I ran out of dough and had to buy all new stuff recently (selling my old stuff about a year ago cuz I was broke) so getting the microphone tuned has been challenging!
yeah i know how getting a microphone set up to sound right can be hard, thats why i havnt posted any live videos because my microphone is no good, anyway looking forward to a Blue Bells of Scotland video =)
Your command of the trombone is beyond what 99.9% of professional trombonist can ever expect to achieve. Holy cow, I'd say you're awesome but that's rather self evident.
Otoh, why include some of those photos, they're...humm...."revolting."
Please do not continue to degrade yourself by including them, take them out.
Have a great day and I hope your future is brighter than your photos.
You're exaggerating the 99.9%! Believe it or not, it's harder to get a regular gig with an orchestra or recording band than it is to get on an NFL team. I have failed in all of my attempts to do so! The trombone is an instrument with an absolute plethora of extremely talented players, and it's a mega bummer! That's why I've got YouTube! Thanks for listening, and check out my other vids, they aren't as visually revolting!
I used to use the 5cl, but I find that the 4cl give this most stability in all registers. 2cl I use in large ensembles, but it sucks the air right out of you! I like the 4CL and that's whats in the recording here. For alto I use the 15 and 10 CLs. It all depends on the instrument/piece.
I'm trying to program Blue Bells for my junior recital in a couple months, but I just can't figure out how to go about practicing those last two variations. Any tips on the tonguing or anything?
Each (*) in the above means that is accented or is one of the components of the theme that is being "varied". just write those articulations over each note, starting with the pick-up leading into the 2nd variation, with "T" "K" "G" or "D" being the start of the next note. Also, you will find that this articulation series ends right where the variation changes tone, but this section is all straight double tonguing. Use these same articulations here when it repeats! Air is extremely important!
Also, I used the Lindberg/Alessi variation on the octave jumps, which are not strictly in time. This is in my mind the only reasonable way to play this figure. Playing it in time at this tempo is not very practical because of the reach and the difficulty of the low F and G while double tonguing. I use the articulations for the jumps because this provides more stability and confidence than doing a lip slur up, and the "gu" articulation on the octave need be nothing more than a brushstroke.
I am planning on creating a short pamphlet to sell on eBay that discusses how to play "The Blue Bells of Scotland" which will include the solopart (free use, public domain) and a complete approach to the piece, articulations, alternate cadenzas, peculiarities of the piece, etc. Let me know if you are interested! I'll probably be selling it for $10 bucks online, but you can test it out for me if you want and give me feedback. Let me know, and shoot me your email address.
I just performed this for my college audition and it went great.
You should really just
take them starting at about 80 and work them up to as fast as you can play them
take the theme and first two variations only as fast as you can play the last two variations, and believe it not, the second to last one is harder than the last one!
it's all about making sure every note comes out nice and clear and at an even tempo, the last variation sounds fast no matter how fast you play it.
I really dig the multiphonics man. They make the cadenza what it is supposed to be, instead of the same things repeated again and again by everyone else.
yeah, anyone who wants a copy can send me thier email adress using youtube mail. I'll send you the one page composition for free, just give me credit for it. The part used here is the opening lament/improv section of a slightly longer work I did. The rest of the piece is considerably more difficult, though not really all that pleasant. You'll clearly be able to see where this improv section ends.
The first piece on this video does not require F-Attachment, though multiphonics often sound better on large-bore instruments, and those almost always have an attachment anyways. The multiphonics in Blue Bells are the only point on this video in which an attachment is used. I can send you the sheet music for the first piece if you'd like. Thanks!
Crap, I removed a comment instead of replying again! The question was "what reference is your trombone?" sorry I don't know what you mean. Can you phrase it some different way?
No, actually...never thought of doing that. I should post some double buzzing though, that'd be kind of cool. Double buzz (aka lip multiphonic) gives a pretty edgy sound though, doubt it would work. You can hear good examples of that technique (by itself) in Arabenne, Aho's Symphony #9, and Xenakis' Keren. Lip multiphonics are loud and very dissonant and they usually follow or are followed by a loud and very dissonant orchestral hit (except in Keren, which is trombone alone).
hahaha looks shockingly familiar...where have I seen one of those before...ah yes Fabisteas has one of those unique trombones too! Mine has the elkhart style bell (HT) which bell do you have on yours?
your how to video will help a lot of people out, I think. Nice job on that video. Sounds 100000% better than with that mute in there too. You're a pro!
That was awesome. Were you playing into a piano with the pedal down in the first bit? The multiphonics sounded so good. Blue bells was pretty nice too.
I dunno, it was a recital hall at UMASS amherst...I used a Zoom H2 recorder to do the recording. Yeah, looking back on it, that rendition of blue bells wasn't so hot
wow you're really good!
llsds1 2 months ago
Really nice playing! I like the multiphonics in the cadenza at the end of the clip.
bobilleg74 10 months ago
You're the reason I learned multiphonics. Great playing!
PastNorwegianBlue 1 year ago
my band teacher is a trmbonist, I should show this to him.
plane15man 1 year ago
Your reply to boneofthewang was beautifully said, every note is like a beam of light and the sung noe is like a prism thats an amazing way of putting it
ChangeWontWait 1 year ago
this is realy nice.... its fairly bright with a dark kind of characteristic to it to. or so it would sound. nice job dude.... some lip slurs and flexibility excersices might work out the air-sound in your tone and overall sound, and some tounguing practice could be in order also..... sounds very dull and sluggish and not clean.... but overall nice job. just dont buzz on themuthpiece... or thats what i would say. i find it very helpful not to. but very nic job and keep up the great mork
blessingbone1594 1 year ago
omg dude to me your like a trombone GOD!!!
lol i wish i could do that second song
but ima jazz type of person
keep up the hard work
cheese27happy 1 year ago
3:05 WTF!
falcon731boy 1 year ago 4
yeah, took that shot at my work bro. Walked in....decided I could find another john some other place.
I like the actual audio at 3:10 better than that picture. I had to ofset that octave run with something nasty...
revoltingmexican 1 year ago
Hey dude, on the first multiphonic note that you played at 1:20, do you play an F# and sing a C# at the same time?
boneofthewang 2 years ago
@boneofthewang
Play a low F# out in 5th, and sing the same pitch as tuning Bb, which is the first pitch played in this recording. The C# pops out on its own as an overtone. If you crank up the volume on the multiphonics, you can 4 or 5 distinct tones making up the chord. I think of the played note as a beam of light. It contains all the overtones in a pitch series. The sung note is like a prism, and it splits the note up into the 4 or 5 overtones that make the chord. I like 1:28 best!
revoltingmexican 2 years ago
Wow thanks this helped a lot!
boneofthewang 2 years ago
why do the lindberg mouthpieces look so different? Do they play really different as well? I play with a Bach mouthpiece, so thats all I know.
R0meOnFire 2 years ago
@R0meOnFire
Yeah, you should try one sometime! The shape has to do with the fact that the rim is rounded off, and not flat. So the cone shape curves into the cup, rather than having the sharp angles that a bach mouthpiece has. This can give some players a tremendous amount of flexibility, because you can move the mouthpiece around a little more and still maintain contact on your lips.
revoltingmexican 2 years ago
What kind of a vibrato are you using?
blackpiggy1994 2 years ago
sounds like lip vibrato
ElPolloLoco4330 2 years ago
@blackpiggy1994
Lip vibrato, using the chin.
revoltingmexican 2 years ago
Muy bonitos tus multifonicos, muy limpio tu sonido. Te manda saludos un trombonista amateur desde Tijuana.
pistoriostboner 2 years ago
Where do you go to school?
Seibukan76 2 years ago
@Seibukan76
I got a degree in criminal justice at UMASS amherst, USA, and I also earned a minor in Japanese. I studied trombone with a teacher on the side there for a year; his name was David Sporny. Great guy!
revoltingmexican 2 years ago
For a 5G trombone mouthpiece. What is the size name for the Christian Lindberg Mouthpieces? Because I know the size names are different o.o
twinova15 2 years ago
They're all a little different. I know for a fact that if you play a 5G, the 5CL will be too small for you. Try the 4CL. This will have a wider throat than a 5G however, so it might take more air. The 2CL has a little wider rim, and an even wider throat. You can play EXTREMELY loud on a 2CL without your sound going blatty. The rims are all very rounded, so the harder you press, the smaller the rim becomes. Very unique and not for everyone.
revoltingmexican 2 years ago
q marca y que referencia es ese trombon
santiagoa991 2 years ago
CONN 88HT CL
revoltingmexican 2 years ago
Is that a Lindberg Mouthpiece?
foxxiej 2 years ago
yes, 4CL
revoltingmexican 2 years ago
that's a conn 88hcl you're wielding in your photos, if i'm not mistaken right?
comparetowhat 2 years ago
yup. 88HT!
revoltingmexican 2 years ago
Very well done!
PomPyrofiremage 2 years ago
offcourse i meant 4.15
foxxiej 2 years ago
this is one of the best trombone multiphonics i've seen in my life.
and i love bluebells.
im trying it myself.
the note on 3.15 litterly is the best ive ever heard...
foxxiej 2 years ago
Very nicely done, only thing i would have to say is im sorry I did not get to hear the full Blue Bells of Scotland from the beginning to end =(
WoWBandits 2 years ago
Hey man, I'm putting up a video about "How to Play Blue bells of Scotland" soon. The whole thing should be there, even if it is broken up into pieces. I'm having trouble finding an accompanist and getting my sound system set up. I ran out of dough and had to buy all new stuff recently (selling my old stuff about a year ago cuz I was broke) so getting the microphone tuned has been challenging!
revoltingmexican 2 years ago
yeah i know how getting a microphone set up to sound right can be hard, thats why i havnt posted any live videos because my microphone is no good, anyway looking forward to a Blue Bells of Scotland video =)
WoWBandits 2 years ago
wow omg the first part is amazing... that phenomanal ot however you spell it. wow great playing. do you have sheet music for the first part?
trombonehero2 2 years ago
I do. send me your email adress through youtube mail, and I'll try to get it for you.
revoltingmexican 2 years ago
The very first part reminds me of the seven samurai theme...
ARCDBEACH 2 years ago
That's phenomenal playing! Loved the multiphonics.
May I have the sheet music for the first piece? Please and thanks :D
jackniggz 2 years ago
please send me your email adress through youtube mail and I'll send you an image of it.
revoltingmexican 2 years ago
Uh that was in response to army of salvation
shadowlink96 2 years ago
lol
revoltingmexican 2 years ago
Your command of the trombone is beyond what 99.9% of professional trombonist can ever expect to achieve. Holy cow, I'd say you're awesome but that's rather self evident.
Otoh, why include some of those photos, they're...humm...."revolting."
Please do not continue to degrade yourself by including them, take them out.
Have a great day and I hope your future is brighter than your photos.
zebrasarecool 3 years ago
You're exaggerating the 99.9%! Believe it or not, it's harder to get a regular gig with an orchestra or recording band than it is to get on an NFL team. I have failed in all of my attempts to do so! The trombone is an instrument with an absolute plethora of extremely talented players, and it's a mega bummer! That's why I've got YouTube! Thanks for listening, and check out my other vids, they aren't as visually revolting!
revoltingmexican 3 years ago
which cl mouthpiece do you use?
Blitzhild 3 years ago
I used to use the 5cl, but I find that the 4cl give this most stability in all registers. 2cl I use in large ensembles, but it sucks the air right out of you! I like the 4CL and that's whats in the recording here. For alto I use the 15 and 10 CLs. It all depends on the instrument/piece.
revoltingmexican 3 years ago
I'm trying to program Blue Bells for my junior recital in a couple months, but I just can't figure out how to go about practicing those last two variations. Any tips on the tonguing or anything?
The multiphonics sounds amazing.
armyofsalvation 3 years ago
Yes, for variation 2 the articulation is:
(Breath) *Tu *Tu *Tu-guu *Ka-tu-ku-tu-ku *tu-ku-tu-ku-*tu-ku-tu-ku *tu-duu *ka-tu-ku-tu-ku *tu-duu *ka-tu-ku-tu-ku *tu-ka-du-ga-du-ga-du-ga *tu-ka-du-ga-du-ga-du-ga da"" (Breath, then octave) *Thuu-ga *thuu-ga, *tu-ga-tu-ga-tu-ga-tu-ga-tu-ga-tu-duu*Ka-tu-ku-tu-ku *tu-ku-tu-ku-*tu-ku-tu-ku *tu-duu *ka-tu-ku-tu-ku *tu-duu *ka-tu-ku-tu-ku *tu-ka-du-ga-du-ga-du-ga *tu-ka-du-ga-du-ga-du-ga da tu-ku-tu-ku-tu-ku-*tuu The rest is is straight double tonguing.
revoltingmexican 3 years ago
Each (*) in the above means that is accented or is one of the components of the theme that is being "varied". just write those articulations over each note, starting with the pick-up leading into the 2nd variation, with "T" "K" "G" or "D" being the start of the next note. Also, you will find that this articulation series ends right where the variation changes tone, but this section is all straight double tonguing. Use these same articulations here when it repeats! Air is extremely important!
revoltingmexican 3 years ago
Also, I used the Lindberg/Alessi variation on the octave jumps, which are not strictly in time. This is in my mind the only reasonable way to play this figure. Playing it in time at this tempo is not very practical because of the reach and the difficulty of the low F and G while double tonguing. I use the articulations for the jumps because this provides more stability and confidence than doing a lip slur up, and the "gu" articulation on the octave need be nothing more than a brushstroke.
revoltingmexican 3 years ago
I am planning on creating a short pamphlet to sell on eBay that discusses how to play "The Blue Bells of Scotland" which will include the solopart (free use, public domain) and a complete approach to the piece, articulations, alternate cadenzas, peculiarities of the piece, etc. Let me know if you are interested! I'll probably be selling it for $10 bucks online, but you can test it out for me if you want and give me feedback. Let me know, and shoot me your email address.
Best wishes
Harrison
revoltingmexican 3 years ago
I just performed this for my college audition and it went great.
You should really just
take them starting at about 80 and work them up to as fast as you can play them
take the theme and first two variations only as fast as you can play the last two variations, and believe it not, the second to last one is harder than the last one!
it's all about making sure every note comes out nice and clear and at an even tempo, the last variation sounds fast no matter how fast you play it.
shadowlink96 2 years ago
I really dig the multiphonics man. They make the cadenza what it is supposed to be, instead of the same things repeated again and again by everyone else.
wheresthewaitress 3 years ago
hey do you think I could get the music for the first piece? I really enjoy your sound btw.
Blitzhild 3 years ago
yeah, anyone who wants a copy can send me thier email adress using youtube mail. I'll send you the one page composition for free, just give me credit for it. The part used here is the opening lament/improv section of a slightly longer work I did. The rest of the piece is considerably more difficult, though not really all that pleasant. You'll clearly be able to see where this improv section ends.
revoltingmexican 3 years ago
Thanks a lot for the music, your composition has given me some good ideas for a bass trombone solo
Blitzhild 3 years ago
<3 the random picture of gman lol
IbanezRokr 3 years ago
:-D There's lots of random pictures!
revoltingmexican 3 years ago
hahaa dude nice i love it your fun. have you tried the doug elliot?i like it better for the orchestra stuff. love it bro keep it up
bradleymw19 3 years ago
:-D
revoltingmexican 3 years ago
What's the range on this piece? Does any of it require an F-attachment?
Nice job, you sound pretty good through out the recording.
McDutchy 3 years ago
The first piece on this video does not require F-Attachment, though multiphonics often sound better on large-bore instruments, and those almost always have an attachment anyways. The multiphonics in Blue Bells are the only point on this video in which an attachment is used. I can send you the sheet music for the first piece if you'd like. Thanks!
revoltingmexican 3 years ago
Crap, I removed a comment instead of replying again! The question was "what reference is your trombone?" sorry I don't know what you mean. Can you phrase it some different way?
revoltingmexican 3 years ago
Are you double buzzing and using multiphonics ?
xentryst 3 years ago
No, actually...never thought of doing that. I should post some double buzzing though, that'd be kind of cool. Double buzz (aka lip multiphonic) gives a pretty edgy sound though, doubt it would work. You can hear good examples of that technique (by itself) in Arabenne, Aho's Symphony #9, and Xenakis' Keren. Lip multiphonics are loud and very dissonant and they usually follow or are followed by a loud and very dissonant orchestral hit (except in Keren, which is trombone alone).
revoltingmexican 3 years ago
beautiful playing!
neaionia60 3 years ago
Aw man, you ended on the cadenza... bravo.
eddimull 3 years ago
HAHAHAHAHAhA thats AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!
jessea9737 3 years ago
Btw:
I like your trombone ;-)
Fabisteas 3 years ago
hahaha looks shockingly familiar...where have I seen one of those before...ah yes Fabisteas has one of those unique trombones too! Mine has the elkhart style bell (HT) which bell do you have on yours?
revoltingmexican 3 years ago
yeah, shockingly familiar!!
I play the normal h-cl with 8 ½" rose brass bell, not the thin one. I tried the HT, but the sound was too bright for me and I took the normal one!
But you sound great on yours, so it seems u took the right decision, as well.
Fabisteas 3 years ago
Thanks for the response!
Good tone, nice vib and good quality... thx for uploading this!
Fabisteas 3 years ago
your how to video will help a lot of people out, I think. Nice job on that video. Sounds 100000% better than with that mute in there too. You're a pro!
revoltingmexican 3 years ago
That was awesome. Were you playing into a piano with the pedal down in the first bit? The multiphonics sounded so good. Blue bells was pretty nice too.
zoot69 3 years ago
no piano, nope! just me and a largish room.
revoltingmexican 3 years ago
Those are some crazy acoustics, I can hear the harmonics.
zoot69 3 years ago
I dunno, it was a recital hall at UMASS amherst...I used a Zoom H2 recorder to do the recording. Yeah, looking back on it, that rendition of blue bells wasn't so hot
revoltingmexican 3 years ago