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  • What have we learned by this? Mcdonalds do a shitty jab at making burgers. (dry as hell)

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  • I wouldn't call this a science experiment. All samples needed to be sealed up tightly in a petri dish or left uncovered in a dark room. After a couple of weeks, put the petri dishes under the microscope and identify the molds. That's what I did in microbiology class..

  • The fact that it's made from an animal corpse is worse for your health than the fact that it has "chemicals" in it.

  • @1GodOnlyOne yes, but the taste of suffering is just too delicious to give up. I think I actually tasted a squeal off the bacon I ate this morning. mmmmmmmmm tasty

  • @1GodOnlyOne What about eating an animal that had died from natural causes?

  • @SpunkOnSchoolUniform You mean like cancer?

  • @1GodOnlyOne Lol. I just don't think that it's necessarily unhealthy to eat meat. Not too much anyway.

  • @SpunkOnSchoolUniform It is unhealthy for human beings.

    Why didn't you answer my question about cancer?

    How about if the animal died from botulism, or some other bacterial infection?

    How about if it died from a fungal infection? I'm just curious how appetizing these kinds of deaths are to you, because you can be sure that some of the meat you've eaten has been produced by such deaths.

  • @1GodOnlyOne How are men supposed to get a decent amount of testosterone when the zinc in meat is more digestable and in higher amounts than the zinc in plants and fungi.

  • @SpunkOnSchoolUniform How about an animal that died from infestation of its muscle tissues by carnivorous worms?

    You have surely eaten dead carnivorous worms in the meat that you've ingested, and if you've ever eaten it rare or raw, then you've probably eaten live carnivorous worms, which live in the muscle tissue.

  • @SpunkOnSchoolUniform Bon apetit!

    ; )

  • @1GodOnlyOne Explain why we have carnivorous teeth.

  • @1GodOnlyOne cow is bad for you but other certain red meats are not for example bison or deer. some native americans lived almost entirely on bison and they lived long without problems. we have a few carnivorous teeth for a reason and that is for the option of eating meat. i do agree though that you dont have to eat meat to live long and healthy.

  • dude where is another video :D

  • @saifedge99 I am asking because it's been 9 monthes XD

  • @saifedge99

    Yeah, never got around to that follow up with the chips. Nothing particularly interesting happened to the burgers in that time either...

    Other than that all I can give you are excuses about how busy my life has been!

  • @RaymondCorrigan No problem. I can understand you.

    I used to eat a lot of fast food but now I eat once a week or in 2 weeks. Sometimes I eat whatever I want, whenever I want, and as much as I want. This is actually a good

    thing for body, because it helps convince your body that you are not starving. Make sure that the food are cooked properly or homemade :).

    If you are fast food addiction, you can eat 2 or 3 times in a week which it helps you psychologically.

    :)

  • @saifedge99 Eating more fruits and vegetables will help you to be fit and healthy.

  • nicely done.

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  • One problem with your experiment that is readily apparent from the video is that you ordered the McDonald's burgers with toppings that you then scraped off with a knife. Did you also place toppings on the homemade burgers then remove them with a knife? I'm willing to bet that ketchup and such is more likely to grow mold than beef.

  • @MrQubits

    This does not fairly compare mould growth between the two types of meat used. It compares between supermarket meat and Mcdonald`s meat plus everything that Mcdonalds adds to their burgers.

    If I got burgers without sauce, or added sauce to supermarket meat, that would also have given people who had already made up their minds an easy way to dismiss results that they don`t like.

    But this is science, we can have the best of both worlds! I`ll test plain Mcdonald`s meat next week.

  • Your supermarket burgers are free from chemicals? Were you using organic burgers?

  • @faro0485

    No, this experiment has nothing to do with organic food at all.

    As the title of this video says this is mainly a test of whether Mcdonald`s burgers can grow mould. I think it`s safe to say this is confirmed.

    A secondary aim was to see if Mcdonald`s burgers are different to typical homemade burgers (i.e. regular supermarket burgers). Again, the results are clear.

    But here is a fair experiment on organic food /watch?v=8Zqe4ZV9LDs.

    How would you fairly test organic? I might do it myself.

  • @RaymondCorrigan ... interesting BS video made by a bunch of liars, who declare themselves as liars in the video itself. So once a liar, always a liar. How do you test organic... well you go to the farm that produces it. Technically speaking, you didn't have a McDonald's burger, as the burger includes the baps.

  • @faro0485

    "So once a liar, always a liar."

    Don`t be close minded.

    If you really believe they just made up the results, repeat the experiment yourself in the same way. If you test is fairly yourself, I`ll repeat your experiment and encourage others to do so. If you`re right you`ll show two of the world`s most famous skeptics to be frauds, you`re conspiracy theories will become much more popular and I`ll get thousands of subscribers by taking down the world famous Penn and Teller. It`s win-win.

  • @faro0485

    "How do you test organic... well you go to the farm that produces it."

    And... What do you do at the farm?

    I`m sure you wouldn`t be happy with me simply going to Mcdonald`s and declaring that it grows no mould.

    Would you don`t test drive a car or computer by going to the factory?

    No, you`d use the car/computer as it`s supposed to be used, and compare it`s performance against others.

    A test MUST involve a chance to prove your own beliefs wrong, otherwise why do it?

    Is `baps` a typo?

  • did u really need to use 6 like 2 wasnt good enough people b starvin

  • @kr00ked

    The minimum I could have used is 4, if I just had 1 burger in each group.

    But then my results would be meaningless. I wouldn`t know what are individual random differences between burgers and what are group differences.

    So the minimum I would have to use to say anything about the groups is 8 (2 per group).

    Then what if 1 in a group grew mould and 1 didn`t? My results would be useless, I would need to repeat the experiment.

    So 12 was the minimum number to guarantee useful results.

  • @RaymondCorrigan

    Part 2

    So yeah, I tried to use as few burgers as I could. But I didn`t want the whole experiment to be a waste of time. In hindsight 8 burgers would have been just fine. But that wasn`t necessarily the case at the time. So I added 4 burgers in case of mixed results. Then I added 1 extra juicy burger so that I would know that the burgers are capable of growing mould if none of them grew it.

  • This is so disgusting I won't eat no burgers any more

  • Next time try to get Plain hamburgers you scrapped cheese and ketch off the ones you had and you had none on the homemade ones failed experiment. Contamination.

  • @mrbunnylamakins

    I see your point, and I would agree if the goal of this experiment were to fairly compare the types of meat used. This experiment didn`t do that.

    But consider the data I was trying to collect. I was seeing if Mcdonald`s burgers have any strange additives which makes them not grow mould.

    The homemade burger was a baseline for mould growth on supermarket meat with no extra additives.

  • Part 2

    So, this experiment doesn`t say whether Mcdonald`s meat grows more or less mould than supermarket meat. But it does say that the Mcdonald`s burgers people buy grow the same amount of mould as supermarket meat. i.e. None of Mcdonald`s ingredients prevent mould growth.

    If I didn`t get tomato sauce then people could always say that the preservatives are in the sauce. If I added salt to the homemade burgers people could say that I added too much.

    P.S. No cheese, just ketchup/mustard.

  • Part 3

    To end I`ll give a simpler analogy.

    I buy 2 new cars of the same type. 1 from a dealer and another from a store that adds a spoiler for racing.

    If I wanted to compare the 2 cars in factory condition (i.e. Mcdonald`s meat vs. supermarket meat). The spoiler would be contamination. However, if I wanted to see the effect of the spoiler (The effect of what Mcdonalds adds to the meat) then the spoiler would not be contamination, it would be the thing being tested.

  • Very interesting, thanks for the video.

  • you sound gay

  • Thanks, made a great science experiment, maybe ill get first! I made a bibliography and mentioned this video as research. Subscribed, favorited, and liked!

  • @stelth96

    Sweet, first time I`ve been in a bibliography.

    Let me know how it goes!

  • @stelth96 1st place. =)

  • @stelth96

    Ha! That`s brilliant.

    Nice work.

  • The plastic containers...they wont have a vacuum seal. There will be air in there correct (from when you put the burgers in) As you made them yourself?

  • @lisaleicester

    Yep, that`s right. I wouldn`t have wanted a vacuum seal anyway.

    I wanted to compare what effect moisture had on the mould growth. So the only job of the containers was to keep in moisture. Ideally all other variables would be the same as the burgers left on the table.

  • Great video... had to show my girlfriend, whom brought up those other videos to me a while back.

    I will be posting this on my Facebook page!

    Keep up the great stuff, great to see you are still thinking outside of the box.

  • Where are you keeping this experiment? lol

  • @anthonzi

    My apartment....

    What?!

    It smelt like burgers for 3-4 days. It either doesn`t now... Or I just stopped noticing it.

  • Eww McDonalds have more mold. Must mean McDonalds is unsanitary.

  • @anthonzi Not necessarily. You do realize that fecal matter is everywhere, even on your toothbrush, crystal dinner plates, on every doorknob, spoon knife and fork, I wouldn't worry about a little mc.burger. Personally I don't eat the crap, makes me ill just thinking about it. But you wont die or anything, well you will die one day, just not from the burger, unless you choke, or it's poisoned, but what are the chances?

  • @Mglosk

    @Mglosk

    I agree, Mcdonald`s isn`t good for you in as far as any meal of coke, burgers and thin, salty fries isn`t good for you. I like the taste though, so I have it 3-4 times a year.

    I think anthozi is just teasing us. He`s a smart guy.

  • @RaymondCorrigan Oh yeah. I just love pointing out the fecal matter is on everything fact. 8) I figured he was joking though.

  • @Mglosk

    That my friend, is a strange hobby.... Actually, who the hell am I to judge?! I have a dozen rotting burgers on my kitchen table.

    Must try the angus burger if I ever go to America. I`m a quarter pounder guy myself.

  • @RaymondCorrigan I keep forgetting that McDonnalds doesn't use the same menu all over the world. Duh. But yeah the Angus is closer to a home made burger than any of the others, even the bun is better. Also, yeah I have some odd hobbies. ;)

  • @RaymondCorrigan I like Mc.Donald's Angus burger, it tastes more like a real burger.

  • How easy it is to jump to false conclusions when straying from the scientific method.

    Another great vid!

  • @TheTinySaint

    Thanks,

    Yeah, it sounds crazy that 4 year old meat wouldn`t have mould.

  • Man I fancy a McDonalds right now.

  • Amazing.

  • Yeah... DO subscribe... Raymond takes a rational approach to science.

    By the way. Ever seen biltong or jerky? Take strips of raw meat, allow them to dry in the sun and they'll last for years without perishing.

    Also, salt is a very effective preservative - Used for many years for preserving meat before refrigeration was in common use.

  • @RoadRunnerLaser

    Thank you random stranger whom I have not bribed.

    Exactly, I suspect there would be absolutely no mould if this experiment were repeated in a less humid country... Even being dried in an air-conditioned room does the job pretty well.

    Cheers again for helping with the Chinese translation stuff.

  • @RaymondCorrigan - Stranger? Stranger than you realise..!

    It's my wife you really need to thank. Chinese characters still look like a page full of space-invaders to me.

    英 英 英 英 英 英 英 英 英 英 英 英 英 英 英 英

  • Fantastic video, keep up the good work.

  • it's kind of off putting that the mcdonalds burgers still looked like burgers after the two weeks though. the supermarket burgers appear to be far smaller than when the experiment begun and have lost their colour and shape.

    I'm interested to know if you weighed the burgers after.

  • @yodh Actually, I just weighed them. I`m calculating and putting these results in the video now. The homemade burgers actually shrunk about 15% in the cooking process, then another 15% through dehydration. Mcdonalds (already cooked) shrunk about 10-15% through dehydration . But yes, they lost their colour more. Mcdonalds final/original weight 18/36, 18/31, 18/32 Mcdonalds moisture (by weight) 50%, 42%, 44% av=45.3% Home made 10/21, 11/25, 12/24 Home made moisture 52%, 56%, 50% av= 52.6% Nice!
  • @RaymondCorrigan

    Yeah, the lack of colour change is off-putting though.

    I wonder why that happened...

  • @RaymondCorrigan I'm going to assume that it's either because of a preservative or that Mcdonalds uses some form of colour additives on their meat

  • @yodh Not really off putting, if you consider the preperation. The McDonalds hamburgers are formed by machinery in a relatively clean-room like environment , then packaged and sent to the restaurant. They are then cooked on heat and also salted a little.  During this whole process, the exposure to mold spores and bacteria is almost eliminated. Home made burgers don't have that luxury.

  • @Gitemstevedave

    Actually it does seem like a bit of anomaly hunting. There was bound to be some kind of difference between the burgers. Of course a real scientific experiment would do a much better job of controlling for all variables.

    I think food colouring is a possibility, but not wholly likely.

  • @RaymondCorrigan Well, there are other things to explain color: how fine the meat/fat is ground, how it is pressed, etc... I've made fan jerky(beef jerky made by drying over a common box fan) and the white/clear fat can go through a wide variety of color changes during the process. But if it's fine enough and well mixed, you won't notice it. they also press their patties in a special machine, which allows for consistent size/weight/etc... for ease/standardize of cooking times.

  • @RaymondCorrigan Also, in the US, McDonalds lists their ingredients. If they lied, someone would have sued them by now for big bucks or had them fined for lying on their official ingredient list. According to their list, patties are 100% beef, salt, and pepper. I mean, unless chemicals are dirt cheap, how is stuffing food with them cost effective for a $.79 retail cost hamburger?

  • @Gitemstevedave

    But seriously, great points.

    The board meeting would be like something out of an Austin powers movie.

    Increase the cost if ingredients, endanger your customers, lie, create a PR disaster. That`s forgetting that you`d have to bribe a considerable number of people to keep it all a secret...

    What`s the benefit? Long lasting meat?.. That essentially comes down to less trips to the `supermarket`... Which is about an hour of labour saved every few days... about $10

  • The fact you were able to leave those burgers unprotected for two weeks leads me to the following hypothesis; you don't have a indoor pet cat or dog.

    Enjoy your experiments, keep up the good work.

  • I love your experiments. Awesome.

  • Awesome though ya McD salt/pepper there burger the second after it finishes cooking while it is covered in grease (former manager). But awesome experiment.

  • @whydid666

    Thanks, it would have been useful to have you around.

    I didn`t know how much salt to use, so I avoided it all together to stop people from using it to dismiss results they don`t like.

  • @RaymondCorrigan you use lots, just mix up salt&Pepper and then dash it with a salt shaker with large holes. It gives the burgers a notable rough texture.

  • These experiments are just GREAT!

    I learned to shut the fuck up today, because i was all bashing mc donalds already without checking the information first.

    Shame on me, dude...

  • @martialme84

    Kudos on staying open to the evidence.

    Don`t worry, there are still plenty of reasons to bash Mcdonald`s. It`s hardly healthy!

  • Its hard to believe that some people think you can make a conclusion from a sample size of one.

    Thanks for bring some intelligence to the table.

    (excuse the pun)

  • You are awesome!

  • Did you see the MOLD on that MacDonald's bun? "As much or more" than the home bun. Shit! Obviously they inject their buns with some weird chemicals which facilitate mold growth!

    See? You can't win with wacky people.

  • Great initiative! Thumbs up for the scientific method.

    Cheers mate. :-)

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  • Yet another great vid. 8 months!!!!! thats dedication, thank you.

  • 8 more months?? youre hilarious. Five Stars *****

  • They have more?!

    WELL THAT MEANS THEY'RE EVEN MORE UN HEALTHY FOR YOU

    DERP DERP

  • @HomoCyborgZombie

    Talk about shifting goal posts, you`ve gone and reversed them!

  • @RaymondCorrigan That's what they'll do P:

    Like those guys that talk about how there's more gaps from ape to human when we find trans. forms?

  • @HomoCyborgZombie

    Oh Jesus, shoot me now.

  • @RaymondCorrigan Nono, I don't believe that xD

    I love your video and what it disproves!

    It's satire, comedy, etc. man ;P

  • @HomoCyborgZombie

    Yeah, Don`t worry! Based on all of our chats I knew you didn`t think that.

    It just generally annoys me to think that there are other people out there who think stuff so blatantly stupid.

  • @RaymondCorrigan Ah okay.

    Yes. It's really sad.

    This is sometimes what I hate about intellectual honesty too.

  • AWESOME vid!

    Thank you.

  • @rastarigate

    Thanks mate

    Glad you liked it.

  • Nice one Raymond!! And you obviously don't have pets or those burgers wouldn't have lasted long enough to grow mold :D

  • @AuntieDiluvian

    Obviously don`t have a girlfriend either...

    *breaks down into tears*

    Thanks for the lightning fast feedback!

  • @RaymondCorrigan Hey - you might have a vegetarian girlfriend! Plus I don't meet too many girls who'd eat moldy burgers but I know a few cats and dogs who would! :)

  • @AuntieDiluvian

    Huh?! Oh, I see.

    I meant my GF wouldn`t put up with me having mouldy burgers in my apartment... Not that she would eat the mouldy burgers like a pet, lol.

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