Necro VS Novastar Lightsaber duel

[Darth1288]

sith ruleeeee

[greytale]

This cracks me up that 53,000 people have seen this *REHEARSAL* video (of one pair of the fighters of the show)... and yet on 42,000 have seen the actual performance video, lmao.

And hey, only a mere 4000 have seen BOP II. Oh well. Guess that's how it goes... people want to see rotoscoped sabers, not what were live shows, heheh.

[IrishCinema7]

@greytale Hey novastar, how did you accomplish the force? Did he just fall down cause it looks really good

[greytale]

@IrishCinema7 lol, this was *WAY* long ago... I almost forgot about this vid that Joe rotoscoped (when he was still with LA Jedi)...

We were going at half speed, but yes of course the "force" thing is just a timing thing. "Pushes" are pretty simple, really... but check out the performances (BOP I and BOP II) for the saber PULLS!!

Those actually took some better timing & practice to make them ~JUST~ right...

--Novastar

[blinkyboy86]

whats the nae of the song when then credits start rolling its not the imperial march something else

[hardtowet606]

is that Indiana Jones music in there?

[RaceOfRock]

now that was cool the best ive ever seen yet

[chatter764]

Yes, Sith do try to kill each other. If you read the books, Darth Maul was brought back from the dead much like Anakin was. After Anakins conversion to the dark side he was met by Darth Maul and Darth Vader was victorious over Maul.

[jankyshit]

shows what you know thats how sith lords are chosen by whoever can kill the master...... but yeah this vid is super slow lightsaber duel are made great by their swift and agile attacks work harder but for now you get a 2/10 simply cause I actually watched the whole thing...haha lame

[darthmamdouh]

Whohohohoho nice !!!! You guys got good moves and you put together a nice choreography too ! Keep 'em coming !!

[abrisgraffix88]

sith kill each other all the time

[starseeker1993]

try to film from different pionts,and work on the effects. But apart from that it are great skills and jumps!

[JayMaal904]

wow if u knew anything about star wars u would know that the sith have fought each other many times

[hardtowet606]

Nice usage of Indiana Jones music

[Mparry6]

i like thr rotoscoping, lks similar 2 original saga

[BrandonFlyte]

Awesome backflip. I need to learn how to do that.

[JAR524]

Think outside the box a little... maybe instead of only using your hands for force powers you could use your feet...????

[Syllogic]

Indeed, two sith would try to kill each other, just remember Vader and Palpatine or Revan and Malak...

Only one master and one student at time. The master rules till the student come stronger and kill him.

[geriel2007]

what happened to the music

[chojiakimichi101]

what was happening at 00:33!?

[EGnCB4everr]

yes actually 2 siths would attack each other, when the master shows any sign of weakness the learner must strike

[jstafuckinusername]

its like star wars meets capoeira

[randomsticks1]

2 siths woudnt try to kill each other

O_o

use a differant colour for 1 of the sabers

^_^

kule vid!

[Blade5276]

no two Jedi wouldn't try to kill each other. For the Sith its all about power and who has the most. The sith would kill each other if it meant establishing dominance

[3dEnthusiast]

Do you know ANYTHING about the Sith? Their way of life is BASED on killing each other to usurp the title of Sith Master...

[greyfox37]

I can give you props for not being a good Star Wars fan, you're better off, but seriously, speak fucking English next time and not anime nerd

[Ryanan2]

are you kidding me siths kill each other all the time, that's part of their philosophy dipshit

[RubiksMaster43]

The battle for greater power always turns out good

[greytale]

They do in "Last Sith Standing"--which is a great vid, btw! Check it out if you're reading... :)

JediArchives only did one "pass" and essentially one mask at this stuff, so he only used one color. He was just playing around for practice, having a bit of fun. Even the choreo is just a rough rehearsal, nothing full blast. :)

[willj78]

yes they would, read dark bane: path of destruction.

[Justin5292]

Yes they would! That's the point! One master and one apprentice. The apprentice tries to kill his/her master to become the new Dark Lord of the Sith.

[Mikezillaguitarguy]

Siths are like the mafia man... In all kinds of games, books, ect.. they kill each other for power and cause one is weak ect.

[shadowseries]

why not

[hubellicious]

2 sith would indeed be at each other's throats, probably more often than sith vs jedi; that is unless they lived during the reign of the Brotherhood of Darkness. Though they'd still be out to get each other.

[WhatTheStash]

yes they would. to become the true master

[Jedi554]

They also do in "Contract of Evil". :P

[nickrohn93]

hey not true if there were two siths fighting for ultimate power hey a real example episode 6 vader vs papiltine

[LordVeldrin]

LOL 2 siths wouldn't try to kill eachother? how the hell do u think they change leadership? apprentice always trys to overthrow the master. some succeed, others don't. but ye they fight eachother as much as they fight jedi

[kittenclaws]

Are you kidding? Give a Sith a bloody reason, really. Especially prior to the whole "Two sith alone" thing. Feh. Evil, they are; evil. mmMMMrrr.

[dukejs]

sure they would. im pretty sure that's why the sith created the rule of two.

[scotiej]

apparently you're not a star wars fan.

[DarkSlayer487]

The Rule of 2 buddy. Sith kill each other constantly. Thats how one comes into power. He kills his master and finds a new apprentice surpass him.

[thefetusking]

uhh not to be a douche dude, but sith kill each other all the time.

[Loller15]

Ever heard of "The Rule of two?"

Two there should be, no more no less.

One to embody the power, the other to crave it.

Which means: when the master gets weak, the pupil must raise to sieze and take the mantle of Dark Lord.

So yes, Sith do fight each others.

-Loller15- Darth Bane Dark Lord of the Sith.

[Bostjanv]

they would - master vs apprentice

[crass770]

of course 2 sith would fight...lol...every aprentice kills their master

[4sakenburrito]

Sith are self destructive by nature with civil war and betrayal, you are completely wrong

[Kakarot21591]

Of course they would. The Sith Code was that the strongest must survive, therefore the weak would be killed.

[PhsykoOmen]

sith would kill eachother if they wanted more power or if they felt it would get them further

[pappybigdank]

Siths try to kill each other all the time....

There is a continuous struggle for power among the sith. They fight and kill for respect and power, especially each other. The movies are just a toe in the ocean that is the star wars universe, and a pretty poor example at that. Read some books, or comics, or watch clone wars... and see how deep the rabbit hole goes.

[Robbe19]

Of course two sith would kill each other!!! This is a part of their believe that only the strongest should survive!

[HMCZcraest]

NicE! jumps

[pogoxp]

i didn't know that lightsabers were very heavy xD

[greytale]

Depending on the hilts used and polycarbonate blades... they can be.

Also, in this particular rehearsal--I was the only one using a thick-walled LED saber with a metal hilt. The gent with the staff was using a wooden prop until the LED staff arrived months later...

[amityofbodom]

totally right xD

[ninjafreak65]

nice cheesey sound fx though

[greytale]

Good point, they make more sense when it fits with the remaining portion of the ENTIRE show.

Again (sort of buried in all the comments), this is ONE pair of TEN fighters on stage, and you're seeing only a small portion of the entire show.

The entire show is on my youtube ID. It's pretty obvious how to find it, along with Episode II. :)

[Nfan22]

doesn't lightsabers that are made of that glass stuff get broken?

[greytale]

Yes, glass sabers would indeed break.

[retrodirrt]

So... how many times did you have to say "THIS IS A REHEARSAL" before people actually caught on? Just reading some of the comments I saw at least 6 times... by page 4... Wow. I'm sorry. lol I loved it, though. :) Rehearsal or not.. it pwns me. ^^;

[liltouss101]

i liked it. the lightsaber affects were spectacular but there needs to be some force action  and it should be a little faster but besides that. a great vid. well choregraphed,realistic, i gave it four stars.

[Jedi554]

Well done, Kit! Well done!

[Dalton1337]

lol the backflips cool xD looks well timed

[marksman55]

Ok, I have to say this. This video is a rehearsal for a very good on stage performance called the Balance of Power. This sequence in particular is in Balance of Power part one. It's done all live and camera and choreography are spot on. So before you go saying, "This video needs better effects, camera angle, and choreography, GO LOOK UP THE BALANCE OF POWER FOR YOURSELF! >:{

[greytale]

I guess I have to mention it yet AGAIN:

1. This was a rehearsal. 1/2 energy, no costumes, about the 10th time we went through it. This was:

2. part of a larger production in which FOUR other pairs of actors are battling at the same time, same stage.

3. NOT a "finalized" version of the choreography.

4. Camera wasn't shooting a "film". It was to shoot the REHEARSAL FOOTAGE for review.

5. JediArchives rotoscoped this out of enjoyment, fun & practice. The final project was 100% live.

[2434htpt]

You, Ryan and Dorkman, and the Ho's brothers should all get together and make a short film. All of you guys have great skills in different areas. Together, bring and using your talents on the same project would be a great treat. I know you do live performances nevertheless, you are a good young actor and writer.

thank about it.

p.s. After you do the movie, take it to a live performance. All of you guys are so good,

I think Mr. Lucas would enjoy it very much. Hint. :)

[kamil99994]

I wrote a book on Star Wars depicting events over 6000 years after RotJ. If they wanted a good story I could lend it to them. One word of warning though: it contains about 26 light saber fights so they will be quite busy.

[kamil99994]

I wrote a Star Wars book, and if they wanted a good story I could lend it to them. But one word of warning: it contains 26 lightsaber fights so they will be quite busy!

Oh and by the way the video is very good but you move a little slow and it shows out fake quite strongly. Perhaps moving a little faster and fighting with passion would make it look a little more real. Just a little bit of advice from me.

[FrenchVanilla32]

I don't know why the heck everyone is putting you guys down, but hey good job. Man I wish I had one of the blades...

[Bus00]

yall are good but you need a better camera and coragraphy. yall could be super with the right person to tell ya to do and yaall do it. Don't give up, good luck!

[jetang155]

bad movie

[wooddogsam]

It was poorly done, but better than some I've seen. I'm in the process of putting one together myself, so I won't go into detail about what yours needs. It's great editing, but like what was said before, looks unrealistic.

[shuckleman177]

whoa

[Redbullgiveswgs11]

The flips and sound, and EVERYTHING kicked ass. 5/5

[SWolf15]

There are many parts in there in which it seems you are trying to hit each other's saber and not each other. Also, spinning around or "flipping" your saber has no strategic value and can more often than not get you killed in a real sword fight. By turning your back to an opponent and bending backwards and fighting may look impressive to those uneducated in martial arts, it looks silly and foolish to those who are educated.

[IrishCinema7]

shut up man its star wars if anybody took those openings the fight would be over saber fights are more of a test than im gonna kill you and they can use te forc

[THECLAYSTER]

And....this is STAR WARS.

[ghostninjax]

so are you a fencing expert or a martial arts expert....remember bruce lees argument? flashy theatrics in martial arts, besides this is for fun, they are not serious

[sexybeastofkonoha]

so true.

[DasGreenCow]

wow, someone can copy and paste.

[greytale]

Wrong. We are aiming for targets--if you can't see that, you are a moron.

Also "spinning and flipping" is a part of both staged combat AND other martial art (Wu Shu), so good luck at this "strategic value" garbage.

SWolf, you obviously have no idea what kinds of skills it takes to create a project such as BOP I, BOP II, or any kind of staged combat production. So until you EDUCATE yourself... keep your long-winded comments to yourself.

[SWolf15]

A few tips from a professional swordsman: It looked way too choreographed. This is usually bad. Make it look like you really are in a duel to the death. There were so many times you could have had a killing stroke. Spinning around and "flipping" your sabers have no strategic effect and may be eyecandy for those who are uneducated in martial arts, but look silly and stupid to those who are educated.

[JKT6]

spinning and flipping makes it look good you say

Thats the point!!! its not a real fight isit?

[THECLAYSTER]

And....this is Star Wars. I have seen many Ren Faire duels by people who have taken Stage Fighting classes, and it was worse than this.

[greytale]

I AM educated, you moron. This was a rehearsal, you dolt. Don't tell me about choreography... it's clear from the response to BOP I & BOP II that you are in the MINORITY.

If you're a "professional swordsman", where is your work. Staged combat is a farcry different from "true" swordplay. Go watch Jet Li... you'll see just as many spins, flips & other fun--only much faster with movie cuts, graphics, cables, safety, & that they work 5-7 days a week.

We worked in our spare time...

[darkmossy]

a few things. one. i can do better with a double blade. two sound needed. 3. needs some more practice

[greytale]

1. I doubt you could do anything... I don't see any of your vids anyhow. Owned.

2. Sound is in the actual production. This is a rehearsal video here.

3. Ah, practice. I wonder why we were rehearsing. Owned x 2.

[EdkhanW]

Un Payaso Saltarin! =). Esos Efectos Estan Pesimos al igual que la coreografia(Te descubres demaciado,yo te ubiera cortado las piernas en el primer movimiento).Tu Oponente(double LightSaber) Es Mas Habil.

Oye Practica Mas...

[LiquidCouncil]

Great job guys. Best amateur Saber sequence i've seen.

[The3XXXX]

yes is good

[AwEsOmEXxXeRiC]

nice effects five stars

[y0dablunt]

this video was cool i liked it alot. some tips tho: change color of the light sabers, and kinda lower the intensity randomizing, cuz the sabers were flickering to much. overall was an awsome vid

[greytale]

Good points, only thing was that JediArchives (Kit Fisto on FXsabers) did this just for fun, had to use relatively junky quality footage of our rehearsal, and only did one mask--so only one color was going to be possible.

[y0dablunt]

oh well that makes sense. but like i said was an awsome vid, i liked the little self slow mo effect

[doctorwho11]

The effects are awesome, as is the choreography, and the back flip = :D

[laiobiwan]

the sound is so weird, and try to make some different shoots

[greytale]

It was a rehearsal for my production called Balance of Power, Episode I. The sound is "weird" because there were 10 people battling, and this is simply a run through of two of the characters.

[Pablitchus]

:) jejeje...

[oxcide101]

need to get costumes!!!!!!!! not the hoody it would rock!

[greytale]

Oxcide--we did have costumes.  For the performance. This was a rehearsal.

[grindman12546890]

nice keep it up :)

[cowboysfan28]

how do you get MR sabers converted to LED, and can you do it with a mace windu? btw, nice vid, just needs work on the moving sounds.

[VaxxineNE]

go here and you will find out.

thecustomsabershop

[K1dP5ycho]

there's another site as well that can convert your saber by sending it to them or let you order a custom one without having to send it (they'd customise it for you). it's ultrasabers(dot)com

[cindrollic]

this is what it would look like if novastar fell to the dark side LOL

[jedicael]

Wow, awesome job Kit Fisto! Thanks for the hard work!

[TeunisD]

Nice moves, but very bad video editor!

[greytale]

There was no video editing. It was meant to be one shot, in a rehearsal space, nothing special. It is NOT a film, lol. For the 1000th time, hahaha

[greytale]

Hi JediArchives (Kit) and RDMio... well, the show *is* performed as a sort of independent event. As we did last year, we'll be showing it at many different venues, although it's not exactly "big time". I don't have a professional marketer, nor do I have the time to do it all myself.

I *did* attempt to get C4 staff to notice, but we were ignored. Additionally, not all of my cast could come anyhow--so I guess that's that. :)

[RDMio18252]

Oh...snap...that was awesome! Would be even better to see it live... you should've registered to do this at C4!

[JediArchives]

Yeah I told Novastar that too,but he thought he could not enter since all his MR sabers are converted to Lux.

But now MR says they will have sabers for the contestents to use at the Force Fx combat trials..

So that so could have entered and ROCKED THE HOUSE!!

[RDMio18252]

No...I mean perform the show as an independent event.

[greytale]

Exactly... and I appreciate ANY rotoscoping, so that's cool to me.

Besides... it's fun to see... EVIL NOVASTAR!  muhuhahahahaaaa! lol :D

[cindrollic]

dude thats just cool i always wondered what the fight would look like if it where rotoscoped but why do they both have red sabers cause in the real fight novastar has a green lightsaber? but still awsome fight and thanks for the roto version

[JediArchives]

Why they have 2 red sabers is easy,It would have took me 32 hours not just 16 hours to add the lightsaber effects if I have to make 2 passes..

I just did this for fun and was not for going all out and doing 2 dif colors

[thaiboy15]

awsome duel video...the effects on the sabers and that force push was amazing

[nghtlfe]

nice fight! i was really impressed with the force push. how did you accomplish that? it looked really clean.

[greytale]

supafun... you should read the comments on the side. This rehearsal performance was originally for a LIVE show, done about a year ago. In addition to two fighters, there were four other pairs fighting at the same time as well.

Kit (JediArchives)... it seems clear to me that no one is going to understand this but people who READ, lol!

Thanks again for doing this though--I'm grateful for your work, and I appreciate it even if others have no idea what the bleep is going on... lmao...

[supafun33]

It would have been more interesting if it had been more than one shot. But for that, props to the fx guy. Nice backflip. I'd suggest some serious work on the sound fx. I'm hearing swings were the sabers are still, and nothing when they're swinging. Some clashes weren't heard either.