MSNBC Morning Joe debate Socialist Newsweek cover

[mukmakumkum]

Nobody here mentioned the true meaning of socailism. Basically, it is an economic system where the means of production are publically owned, and the economy is formed from cooperation, not competition. This is clearly a seperate economic system, outside of capitalism. What these fellows are talking about is social democracy- the idea that the people can collectively collect the fruits of capitalism, and distribute them for the public good. Until economy changed, we are not a socialist country.

[jplumads]

The Shining Beacon is going dim.

[frellthat]

When was America ever a Shining Beacon? I imagine it had to be sometime after the Civil Rights movement. The 1970s maybe, under Carter? Because we've been going nowhere but down since then.

[jplumads]

Yes, it is the Shining Beacon, young demoarlized punk. Go live in Africa and see what they've done with their countries, or maybe the Middle East. Get out, haters, living your cushy little life on the backs of dead Americans who gave it to you.

[frellthat]

If you can't answer my question, it would be better for you not to respond at all, since you only make yourself look all the more foolish by lashing out irrationally.

[jplumads]

Your question was a smart-assed remark. Grow up.

[baronmorris]

we were a shining beacon in 1777, 1866. amd 1969, and 2008. haha that's about it.