i Read Somweheer that British Intelligence MI-6 Broke the japanese codes as of 1939 and had been transmitting information straight to the White House . MI-6 kept FDR up to date on the Japanese Military. FDR avoided the Official US Intelligence information on the Japanese so it can be said "Officially ' that he did not know about the Japanese attack on a US territory on Pearl harbor or elsewhere. That way FDR is off the Hook. His Contacts in the Royal dutch Shell Oil corp fueled the Japanese.
@level242 , only way he could pull the country out of post WWI isolationism, FDR felt the battleships were obsolete, he sacrificed those vessels, while sending the carrier fleet out of port.
Battleships were NOT obsolete in 1941.Battleships,submarines,gas masks for civilians, the Maginot Line, etc was were most military planners thought the war would focus on.Nobody knew the carriers, the Atom bomb,FDR's 4th term, etc would have played such a large role in WW2. FDR was undersecretary of the USN durring WW1. He LOVED the navy.He wouldn't let the Navy get its ass kicked like that in some conspiracy.
@level242 , he not only would he in fact did, Roosevelt worked for the bankers, he needed a conflict in order to jump start the economy, it worked. Roosevelt knew the Japanese were coming, he allowed it to happen. Not really a conspiracy, he was a business man, to him it was simple economics.
Roosevelt knew of the attacks, he chose to do nothing. Roosevelt knew the only way he could serve the international bankers, their need for war based industrial flux, was to allow the attack on Pearl Harbor. He sacrificed 2,400 souls at Pearl Harbor, thus pulling the country out of isolationism. It is not that the attacks were a hoax, they took place, just not how we were taught in the text books.
Try telling my Pearl Harbor veteran neighbor that the attacks were fake and see what happens. I swear all you people that start these dumb theories are idiots
@DCfreak87 Um, who said the attacks were fake? As far as the warnings of the attacks, that's mainline history, buddy. He knew; he either didn't think it was credible or he purposefully ignored it. But the only thing that's not up for debate is that he knew. EVEN THE US GOV'T ADMITS THAT HE KNEW. You should really do less typing and more reading. I mean that was in the news a few years ago when they declassified it.
@StollandSon And DC freak, both my grandfathers were in WWII with one buried in ANC so please tell me if it's okay to pay attention to declassified stuff related to their service? Is that alright? Can I at least do that without ad hominem attacks from people who clearly have done zero research into the subject who just want to make a snide comment and think you debunked it while simultaneously showing the world you didn't even watch the video you commented on?
It does seem mighty convenient that old obsolete battleships were taken out while the carriers, which were vital to the Pacific campaign, were out to sea....luckily.
Pearl Harbor, JFK assassination, Apollo, Tonkin Gulf incidence, Y2K, The Bush-Gore 2000 election, 9-11, The Obama phenomenon, 12-21-2012...my God is EVERYTHING contrived???
FDR didn't carry out a conspiracy, but carried out a strategy. Yes, it was a strategy to intervene in the war of Europe with Japan . However,the strategy spread communism in East Asia. After all,FDR succeeded in Europe and made a ghastly blunder in East Asia. Korea War and Vietnum War were caused by communists and FDR's ghastly blunder.
@axltyler And those of us who are not selfish and lazy know better than to speak up. It's impossible to make things better when the majority of people call you 'unpatriotic' for saying that the government is broken.
Roosevelt allowed the attack to take place, he ordered the carriers out of port, as well as his favorite ship, the Indianapolis, which was equipped with a presidential suite. Roosevelt sacrificed the battleships, he knew they were obsolete. It was the only way he could end isolationist attitudes at home, it was the only way he could get America into the war. Same thing happened as a prelude to WWI with the sinking of the Lusitania, and again in Vietnam with the Gulf of Tonkin Incident.
Sorry, but this is bullshit! The carriers were in the way to Midway bec. delivering planes. If you take a look on the map for their way home and which way the Jap fleet had, it was only chance and bad weather that they don't met at sea! Also it's a myth that FDR saw a chance to enter war with it. Who was his 1. rank enemy? Hitler! What made him sure that Hitler will declare war to him after Jap's attack? Nothing, bec. Hitler did everything to provide it before at the submarine war!
true is that FDR knows many hours before the attack that war will be, thanks to operation purple. But they did not know that Pearl Harbour will be the main target. true is that the warning to Kimmel was a lousy action, but this only point could be only human error too and when all human errors like this in history were conspiracy, then only omg! Further it is crap that only the old BB's were in Pearl, because which more modern BB had the Navy? 4 and all 4 had mech. construction problems!
No signal of Japs fleet was located and all the guys telling other way are working with fakes and speculations! Fact is that the fleet was not able to send any signal, only to receive, because all sending parts in radios were removed for safety! So no one knows were the carriers were! Next truthers point is the weak defence. Really weak? Truth is that they had more modern weapons of that time, including radar than most areas in the US and too at Philipines! The P40 was e.g. the main fighter
and there were many of them in Peral and the famous Mustangs & Co were not existing at this time! That the defence was so weak is only to blame against Gen. Short and Adm. Kimmel, because days before the myth. telegram from Marshall which was send by low priority and by Western Union, they received enough warnings, warning which every normal CinC will make his armed forces to high alert! True is only that FDR made a policy that forced Japan to attack or to give up his policy in China!
Who knows Japs thinking will be sure that they choose option war, after the hard embargo with oil etc. But did FDR this to get in war? Why wanted FDR to get in war? Because he wants to help Britain against Hitler and here back to my 1st post: What made FDR sure that his pressure on Japan gives him his mot wanted entry in war in Europe? Nothing, because even all high German officials were shocked of Hitlers deision to declare war against US after all his action to provice before at submarine war!
Sorry, but why do all my colleagues in the UK and the US understand me without any problems? However, in short words: the carriers were on a normal duty tour by delivering planes to Midway and not be send to be in safety! Further it was only chance and bad weather that the US carriers did not meet the Japanese fleet on their way back to Pearl Harbour. Look on a map which way the US carriers took and which way the Japanese fleet, including the time table when was which fleet where!
P.S. And if you have any other evidence as the carriers not being in Pearl Harbour, what is no evidence as told, please let me know. I can refute any evidence for conspiracy with facts :-)
As told they delivered fighter planes from Pearl Harbour to Midway, a totally normal issue and often done before and after! During the attack they were still on the way back to Pearl and not far from AND more inmportant, during their tour to and back from Midway, they were very close to the IJN fleet. Only chance and bad weather prevented that they spotted each other by normal air patrols! Conclusion: It is only a untrue allegation that the carriers were send out to safe them!
And to prevent an other, often told argument for conspiracy of FDR again now: It is often told that only the old battleships were in Pearl Harbour, because they could be sacrificed etc. Well, you can only sacrifice something, if you have enough of it and this was not the case here! All battleships in Pearl were heavy modernized = not outdated and there were only 4 - 5 real modern battleships the US Navy had at this time and all were plagued by mechanical problems with vibrations!
These were ships from the South Dakota and North Carolina class. All battleships and carriers of the US Navy have to save 2 oceans and the focus was on both of them as you may know. Also remember the heavy problems the US Navy had after Pearl Harbour. That Midway was won was only an average intelligence job, not because enough ships (carriers) and that carriers became more important than battleships changed during the war and not before (even it could be anticipated of course).
I hope this is enough understandable enlightment now. The question was never where were the carriers, but why were they not in Pearl during Japs attack. To take their absence (and their later imprtance in war) only as evidence for conspiracy is, sorry, lousy ... and ignores the real undoubted real and normal mission which drove them out of Pearl ... or blaming it only as coverstory what is bullshit :-)
As told: They delivered fighter planes from Pearl Harbour to Midway to strengthen the defence there. This is a mission carriers did many times and even the oldest US carrier -CV1-Langley- did it too long after Pearl! But if this is only a coverstory as truthers will tell, well, why were they then send so close into the area from where the IJN carriers came and not to somewhere else when FDJ knows about the attack? Again: ONLY CHANCE prevented that US Carriers and IJN met at sea!
Who knows if it is a conspiracy or not. A) War was going on B) There's spies! Ever thought that they secret agents had a hand in covering it up? Nothing written down, if so, probably coded or used invisible ink.
General McCarthy said to Japanese people that if America Was in Japan's shoes, America does declare the WAR! Yes, Study history which one is more evil??
This is so true! Yes, Pres. Roosevelt used propaganda to make America unite so Japan's attack was the perfect reason! But Japan did declare so don't mix with September the 11. Japan wanted to negotiate with America but President Roosebelt refused to negotiate with Japan bc he wants to go to the War! Why? because America stopped export all the materials and food to Japan and America told ABCD lines (America, British, China, and Dutch) to follow America not to export nothing to Japan.
the day Isreal Attacked America.... time for another war, but first we have traitors inside.... watch Dr. Allen Sabrosky on YouTube for the whole facts of this discovery
Dr. Allen Sabrosky is the US Army War College Director of studies.... a real american
i Read Somweheer that British Intelligence MI-6 Broke the japanese codes as of 1939 and had been transmitting information straight to the White House . MI-6 kept FDR up to date on the Japanese Military. FDR avoided the Official US Intelligence information on the Japanese so it can be said "Officially ' that he did not know about the Japanese attack on a US territory on Pearl harbor or elsewhere. That way FDR is off the Hook. His Contacts in the Royal dutch Shell Oil corp fueled the Japanese.
Roadracer987654321 4 weeks ago
why would FDR a navy man want to sink his OWN navy?
This is so stupid but I give it another 10 or 15 minutes to start making sense
level242 1 month ago
@level242 , only way he could pull the country out of post WWI isolationism, FDR felt the battleships were obsolete, he sacrificed those vessels, while sending the carrier fleet out of port.
dogwood912 4 weeks ago
Battleships were NOT obsolete in 1941.Battleships,submarines,gas masks for civilians, the Maginot Line, etc was were most military planners thought the war would focus on.Nobody knew the carriers, the Atom bomb,FDR's 4th term, etc would have played such a large role in WW2. FDR was undersecretary of the USN durring WW1. He LOVED the navy.He wouldn't let the Navy get its ass kicked like that in some conspiracy.
level242 4 weeks ago
@level242 , he not only would he in fact did, Roosevelt worked for the bankers, he needed a conflict in order to jump start the economy, it worked. Roosevelt knew the Japanese were coming, he allowed it to happen. Not really a conspiracy, he was a business man, to him it was simple economics.
dogwood912 4 weeks ago
Roosevelt knew of the attacks, he chose to do nothing. Roosevelt knew the only way he could serve the international bankers, their need for war based industrial flux, was to allow the attack on Pearl Harbor. He sacrificed 2,400 souls at Pearl Harbor, thus pulling the country out of isolationism. It is not that the attacks were a hoax, they took place, just not how we were taught in the text books.
dogwood912 1 month ago
@dogwood912 Here! here! well said.
raydar878 4 weeks ago
Try telling my Pearl Harbor veteran neighbor that the attacks were fake and see what happens. I swear all you people that start these dumb theories are idiots
DCfreak87 1 month ago
@DCfreak87 Um, who said the attacks were fake? As far as the warnings of the attacks, that's mainline history, buddy. He knew; he either didn't think it was credible or he purposefully ignored it. But the only thing that's not up for debate is that he knew. EVEN THE US GOV'T ADMITS THAT HE KNEW. You should really do less typing and more reading. I mean that was in the news a few years ago when they declassified it.
so again who is saying the attacks were fake?
StollandSon 1 month ago
@StollandSon And DC freak, both my grandfathers were in WWII with one buried in ANC so please tell me if it's okay to pay attention to declassified stuff related to their service? Is that alright? Can I at least do that without ad hominem attacks from people who clearly have done zero research into the subject who just want to make a snide comment and think you debunked it while simultaneously showing the world you didn't even watch the video you commented on?
StollandSon 1 month ago
plus people at japanese embassy in US was having a party & drinking beer when Japanese military gave an official notice to start the war.
as a result,,, our first attack became "Sneak Attack"...
earkleokada 2 months ago
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hi there. i am a honest &poor japanese boy who educated in US west coast.
anyhow, the code for attacking Pearl Harbor was
"Ni-ta-ka ya-ma no-bo-re" meaning
"Climb up to Nitaka mountain"
how simple is that! if highly educated officer could not figure out what does it mean,
I could go to Harvard easily!!!
earkleokada 2 months ago
It does seem mighty convenient that old obsolete battleships were taken out while the carriers, which were vital to the Pacific campaign, were out to sea....luckily.
Pearl Harbor, JFK assassination, Apollo, Tonkin Gulf incidence, Y2K, The Bush-Gore 2000 election, 9-11, The Obama phenomenon, 12-21-2012...my God is EVERYTHING contrived???
03030303 2 months ago
@03030303 , All war is based on deception. Sun Tzu
tabletalk33 1 month ago
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FDR didn't carry out a conspiracy, but carried out a strategy. Yes, it was a strategy to intervene in the war of Europe with Japan . However,the strategy spread communism in East Asia. After all,FDR succeeded in Europe and made a ghastly blunder in East Asia. Korea War and Vietnum War were caused by communists and FDR's ghastly blunder.
Kawanya37 2 months ago
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Kawanya37 2 months ago
How come Americans don't stand up to thier government from being corrupt and orchestrating terrorist attacks
MorbidAngel2011 2 months ago
@MorbidAngel2011 because they don't care. They're selfish and lazy.
axltyler 2 months ago
@axltyler And those of us who are not selfish and lazy know better than to speak up. It's impossible to make things better when the majority of people call you 'unpatriotic' for saying that the government is broken.
doggonemess1 2 months ago
@doggonemess1 nothing last forever....Eygpt fell, Rome burned, Atlantis gone....
MorbidAngel2011 2 months ago
@MorbidAngel2011 because they're brainwashed
PrecisePuncher 2 months ago
1:01 - 1:50
jenwexxx820 3 months ago
Roosevelt allowed the attack to take place, he ordered the carriers out of port, as well as his favorite ship, the Indianapolis, which was equipped with a presidential suite. Roosevelt sacrificed the battleships, he knew they were obsolete. It was the only way he could end isolationist attitudes at home, it was the only way he could get America into the war. Same thing happened as a prelude to WWI with the sinking of the Lusitania, and again in Vietnam with the Gulf of Tonkin Incident.
dogwood912 4 months ago
@dogwood912
Sorry, but this is bullshit! The carriers were in the way to Midway bec. delivering planes. If you take a look on the map for their way home and which way the Jap fleet had, it was only chance and bad weather that they don't met at sea! Also it's a myth that FDR saw a chance to enter war with it. Who was his 1. rank enemy? Hitler! What made him sure that Hitler will declare war to him after Jap's attack? Nothing, bec. Hitler did everything to provide it before at the submarine war!
Mandelus71 3 months ago
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true is that FDR knows many hours before the attack that war will be, thanks to operation purple. But they did not know that Pearl Harbour will be the main target. true is that the warning to Kimmel was a lousy action, but this only point could be only human error too and when all human errors like this in history were conspiracy, then only omg! Further it is crap that only the old BB's were in Pearl, because which more modern BB had the Navy? 4 and all 4 had mech. construction problems!
Mandelus71 3 months ago
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No signal of Japs fleet was located and all the guys telling other way are working with fakes and speculations! Fact is that the fleet was not able to send any signal, only to receive, because all sending parts in radios were removed for safety! So no one knows were the carriers were! Next truthers point is the weak defence. Really weak? Truth is that they had more modern weapons of that time, including radar than most areas in the US and too at Philipines! The P40 was e.g. the main fighter
Mandelus71 3 months ago
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and there were many of them in Peral and the famous Mustangs & Co were not existing at this time! That the defence was so weak is only to blame against Gen. Short and Adm. Kimmel, because days before the myth. telegram from Marshall which was send by low priority and by Western Union, they received enough warnings, warning which every normal CinC will make his armed forces to high alert! True is only that FDR made a policy that forced Japan to attack or to give up his policy in China!
Mandelus71 3 months ago
Who knows Japs thinking will be sure that they choose option war, after the hard embargo with oil etc. But did FDR this to get in war? Why wanted FDR to get in war? Because he wants to help Britain against Hitler and here back to my 1st post: What made FDR sure that his pressure on Japan gives him his mot wanted entry in war in Europe? Nothing, because even all high German officials were shocked of Hitlers deision to declare war against US after all his action to provice before at submarine war!
Mandelus71 3 months ago
@Mandelus71 , having trouble following your point with all the gramatical errors, sorry.
dogwood912 3 months ago
@dogwood912
Sorry, but why do all my colleagues in the UK and the US understand me without any problems? However, in short words: the carriers were on a normal duty tour by delivering planes to Midway and not be send to be in safety! Further it was only chance and bad weather that the US carriers did not meet the Japanese fleet on their way back to Pearl Harbour. Look on a map which way the US carriers took and which way the Japanese fleet, including the time table when was which fleet where!
Mandelus71 3 months ago
@dogwood912
P.S. And if you have any other evidence as the carriers not being in Pearl Harbour, what is no evidence as told, please let me know. I can refute any evidence for conspiracy with facts :-)
Mandelus71 3 months ago
@Mandelus71 , O.K., please enlighten all of us, where were the carriers when the Japanese attatcked Pearl Harbor?
dogwood912 3 months ago
@dogwood912
As told they delivered fighter planes from Pearl Harbour to Midway, a totally normal issue and often done before and after! During the attack they were still on the way back to Pearl and not far from AND more inmportant, during their tour to and back from Midway, they were very close to the IJN fleet. Only chance and bad weather prevented that they spotted each other by normal air patrols! Conclusion: It is only a untrue allegation that the carriers were send out to safe them!
Mandelus71 3 months ago
@dogwood912
And to prevent an other, often told argument for conspiracy of FDR again now: It is often told that only the old battleships were in Pearl Harbour, because they could be sacrificed etc. Well, you can only sacrifice something, if you have enough of it and this was not the case here! All battleships in Pearl were heavy modernized = not outdated and there were only 4 - 5 real modern battleships the US Navy had at this time and all were plagued by mechanical problems with vibrations!
Mandelus71 3 months ago
@dogwood912
These were ships from the South Dakota and North Carolina class. All battleships and carriers of the US Navy have to save 2 oceans and the focus was on both of them as you may know. Also remember the heavy problems the US Navy had after Pearl Harbour. That Midway was won was only an average intelligence job, not because enough ships (carriers) and that carriers became more important than battleships changed during the war and not before (even it could be anticipated of course).
Mandelus71 3 months ago
@dogwood912
P.S.
I hope this is enough understandable enlightment now. The question was never where were the carriers, but why were they not in Pearl during Japs attack. To take their absence (and their later imprtance in war) only as evidence for conspiracy is, sorry, lousy ... and ignores the real undoubted real and normal mission which drove them out of Pearl ... or blaming it only as coverstory what is bullshit :-)
Mandelus71 3 months ago
@Mandelus71 , what mission were the carriers on when Pearl Harbor was attacked?
dogwood912 3 months ago
@dogwood912
As told: They delivered fighter planes from Pearl Harbour to Midway to strengthen the defence there. This is a mission carriers did many times and even the oldest US carrier -CV1-Langley- did it too long after Pearl! But if this is only a coverstory as truthers will tell, well, why were they then send so close into the area from where the IJN carriers came and not to somewhere else when FDJ knows about the attack? Again: ONLY CHANCE prevented that US Carriers and IJN met at sea!
Mandelus71 3 months ago
1941. Germans, Italians, Spanish, plus ALL the peoples of Central and Eastern Europe were in the process of defeating Jewish Bolshevism and the NWO.
The Jew Rosenfelt HAD to come up with a reason to bring the US into the War to defend his fellow Jews in Moscow.
It's sad to say it, but young white American men helped to snuff out the light of civilisation between 1942-45.
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deadadelta 4 months ago
I agree that the gov't had advance knowledge. It only makes sense based on the provided evidence in this video. Well done.
yandirtty21 5 months ago
Who knows if it is a conspiracy or not. A) War was going on B) There's spies! Ever thought that they secret agents had a hand in covering it up? Nothing written down, if so, probably coded or used invisible ink.
scottieman2 7 months ago
General McCarthy said to Japanese people that if America Was in Japan's shoes, America does declare the WAR! Yes, Study history which one is more evil??
musashi331 7 months ago
This is so true! Yes, Pres. Roosevelt used propaganda to make America unite so Japan's attack was the perfect reason! But Japan did declare so don't mix with September the 11. Japan wanted to negotiate with America but President Roosebelt refused to negotiate with Japan bc he wants to go to the War! Why? because America stopped export all the materials and food to Japan and America told ABCD lines (America, British, China, and Dutch) to follow America not to export nothing to Japan.
musashi331 7 months ago
my grandmother was there!
KeshaIsHot808 1 year ago
Liars all. Tarpley is the only credible one on all this.
watch?v=0nEOwp9FcSE
gosciu555 1 year ago
Just Awesome... Thanks a mil though, using these videos for my essay lol ;)
joshbarber89 1 year ago
the day Isreal Attacked America.... time for another war, but first we have traitors inside.... watch Dr. Allen Sabrosky on YouTube for the whole facts of this discovery
Dr. Allen Sabrosky is the US Army War College Director of studies.... a real american
BornPatriot 1 year ago