Hoekstra: It's Fair to Hold Obama Admin. Responsible for Attempted Bombing of Northwest Flight

[Hillary2016vote]

Bill Clinton did everything humanly possible to stop Al Qaeda and kill Bin Laden. It was that mean old Bush and his mean old oil companies that dropped the ball. Let's keep using Bush as our scapgoat.

Obama gives himself a B+.

In 2012, vote Obama. Vote Hope and Change.

Yes we can. Yes we can. We got a B+

[jamaicanification]

i guess it fair to hold bush resposible for reading my pet goat when 9/11 happened? i guess its fair to hold bush responsible when took him 6 days to get off his ass and speak about the shoe bomber incident and gave an off the cuff remark. I gues its fair to hold bush resposible for saying heck of a job browny while 10's of thousands of people drowned in new orleans. this is the double standard here. anything happens it all obamas fault. With bush, na hes fightin hard against terrorism, gosh!

[bizzyDMB80]

@jamaicanification - I was about to post pretty much the same thing...couldn't have said it better myself...But don't forget

Bush "Truly not concerned about bin laden"

sent 7 times more troops into iraq than afghanistan.

Well, we could go on forever...

[bigredjeff007420]

oh no! PLEASE SAVE ME! im so scared of these ppl that live in mud huts. neocons please save me with torture and invading my constitutionally protected privacy.

[hobo59]

Hussein will be lucky if he even stays in office till 2012. Impeach the traitor now !

[CaramelAnt]

It's Fair to Hold the Obama Administration Responsible for the attempted terrorist attack that was successfully foiled and caused no damage or loss of life.

[CommanderNutters]

it wasnt foiled you sad drone...the only reason that 300 people didnt die was because the damn bomb failed to ignite properly..nothing was foiled

[CaramelAnt]

Do you want me to walk you through what I was actually saying, or are you happier just dryhumping semantics?

[cocobear33]

vote for obama in 2012 are you fucking kidding me , i would vote for a cat before i vote for obama in 2012

[bleunt]

freedom > security

[ZingZee123456789]

I can hear Liz Cheny's ANNOYING ASS VOICE already

"Well, there have already been two terrorist attacks on the homeland under Obama's watch and its only been his first term....The Bush administration blah blah blah"

[ZingZee123456789]

Are you kidding me?That was a HORRIBLE justification as to why the Obama administration is responsible!

Palin could have given a more convincing answer.

Using the phrase "man-made disaster" instead of terrorism DID NOT cause that man to set of a sparkler on that airplane.C'mon.

Prove that the Obama admin. was neglegent and dissmisive towards inteligence warning of an impending attack (like the pre-9/11 Bush Asministration) and than we'll talk.....

[hobo59]

@ZingZee123456789 You mean like the Intelligence that this punks own father went to an American embassy and turned in his own son. Saying his son had traveled to Yemen and had become radicalized and might attack America some way ? You mean that kind of intelligence that Obummers administration doesn't have or dismissed ?

[Bunnicula71]

Lets be honest, there's NOTHING short of invasive measures that would catch someone with a bomb in their crotch. What about a rectally inserted device?

Hoekstra's and his ilk will milk this fear for all its worth. The GOP feeds on fear like a fucking vampire, watch them bounce in the polls.

Obama's not close to his B + right now, but McLame Palin was a guaranteed war with Iran and a depression by now. Do you think they wouldn't have fucked up the financial meltdown worse?

[VeohBlows]

There is is, at the end FOX news retards, still blames Obama for Republican failed policys, more concerned about "homegrown" terrorism, What he is saying, if we beat down American Citizens more, take more freedomes from our selves here at home , things like this wouldn't happen on international flights? So Obama fails because why, shit for brains?

[clnmike]

And exactly how changing the name is going to make a difference? Whats the solution?

[Hillary2016vote]

In 2012, vote Obama. Vote for hope and change in 2012.

[Keszler]

Then is it fair to blame Bush for 9/11?

[joebidensanass]

the terrorists are fully responsible for their own actions and the victimization they cause. Bush and Obama, on the other hand, are just politicians.

[newbreed1]

Does this mean the 9-11 was Bush's fault?

[xxramblingsxx]

Obama brings terrorists to the US and then gives them full US citizen rights.

[jasonsadventure]

so xxrablingsxx, its okay to lock-up

child molesters, serial rapist, extortionist, crime bosses, violent gang members, mass murderers, arsonists, foreign spies and arsonists in our super-max federal prisions but lone, failed, terrorist wanna-bee deserve special treatment? really?

[gan0nsl4y3r]

its called the constitution

[junkforkaryn]

stop giving visas to these nut-fucks who want to kill us! and please study the Israeli airline security procedures. we don't want to spend the time or money on protecting americans on american soil, but we'll gladly fight two wars "over there". we are first rate imbeciles.

[Codger45caliber]

@yelobmx - you're an anti-american creep.

That terrorist boy is a coward wanting to kill innocent strangers. He desires death, killing, and destruction. He's a 2-legged animal that needs to be exterminated in order to protect innocent people.

[MasrawyPasha]

I like how its convenient to skip on the fact that the guy was responsible was a youth who obviously was deranged. So much so, that his own father picked up on it and WARNED us. This isn't part of a greater master plan, the kid went crazy, he wasn't living amongst terrorists who kept breeding him this shit. He get fucked up with his "experimental" phase ending up with religious nuts in Britain and Yemen that used him as a tool since he was young.They are acting as if it was a mass strike

[micahgee]

of cooourse

[joebidensanass]

I say that we give Bush and Obama to Al Qaeda in exchange for Bin Laden.

[charlie44441]

I say we just threaten to give them Bush...unless they give us Bin Laden.

[yelobmx]

What's with all the illiterate gop in here trolling? i thought you would be at sarah palin's parasailin'.

[Pleblian]

As Carl Bernstein has pointed out last week on morning joe, there isn't any real opposition from the right, the republicans have become nothing more than "obstructionist".

[KataVideo]

then bush and the republicans are 100% responsible for the 9/11 attacks. period. so says pete hoekstra.

and the anthrax attacks. and the shoe bomber.

[Pleblian]

No, common sense says it that Bush was 100% responsible, it was on his watch, period.

[Bear5177]

It is? Well then, I feel it's only fair to hold George Bush responsible for the attacks during 9/11. Fair is fair right? Also, while we're at it, let's hold the previous administration responsible for the trampling on civil liberties as a result of the so-called Patriot Act and let's investigate how much responsibility that administration has concerning the torture of prisoners. I mean, let's all be fair about this right?

[bobbyjwoodruff]

Even with Janet Napalitano, you can hear the lack of concern in her tone and words. She is Obama's pick so I think it is fair to say the problem goes to the top. Obama isn't taking terrorism seriously and who knows how many deaths it will take for Obama to realize 9-11 didn't happen because of any evil the USA had done, but rather the good the USA did in supporting the United Nations creation of Israel. Perhaps Obama is just now realizing he's been 180 degrees out of sync with reality.

[saltythebear]

..the fuck?

[MasrawyPasha]

I literally said the same thing

[Codger45caliber]

Sometimes those Islamic extremists get board abusing their women and children, and the just get the urge to kill innocent strangers. So sometimes these 2-legged animals have to be exterminated in order to protect your community.

[JCJ77]

I think TPM posts things they think make right wingers sound crazy, but more often than not the results don't match the intentions.

[toddlamp]

TPM doesn't have to try. The right-wingers are crazy.

[KataVideo]

no, it's that right-wingers often are so far gone that they don't even realize how incredibly fucking stupid they sound.

[dmp079]

The man boardered the plane in Yemen, flew to Amsterdam, then to Detroit. Now how is the United States and the president responsible for this terrorist attack? SMH at the level of the stupidity in fearmongering.

[Somai82]

"man made disasters" lol morons

[ferrozm]

he is responsible because he is continuing Bush's foreign policy. they are radical because of the foreign policy

[Codger45caliber]

yelobmx: you obviously have fogetten to take your medication,and you're sitting there with the foil on your head and your schizo-paranoid conspiracy theories. Either that, or, you're a devoted follower of the anti-american, jew-hating, mad man, Reverend Jeremiah Wright.

[yelobmx]

Listen codger, what resembles tinfoil was the usa air defence system. do some research and you'll find the truth. and calling me a jew-hating anti-american just proves how little ammo you have in this debate.

[bb44332211]

terrorists want to be martyrs.  We should help them. We should but line them up and shoot them. Or, if they'd rather blow themselves up, put them in a field or on a boat, and let them blow themselves up.

[sidplicity]

So Obama should have been working the security checkpoint at Amsterdam? I didn't realize he was dutch and responsible for that. New conspiracy theory Obama is actually dutch!

[yelobmx]

"ramblings", ur thinkn' of cheney and rummy (pnac) who helped in standing down Norad and had an executive order in the summer of 2001 to not arrest any al'qaeda in the the usa at the time. Not to mention of the 911 attack warning was in a pdb on aug.06.2001. 911 was allowed to happen and they killed 3,000 people. Obama admins fuck up on a terrorist attempt and no one dies.

[d3v07]

allah akbar

[connielane]

The Obama administration is creating a lot of terrorist by killing innocent people in Afghanistan, Pakistan and now Yemen. All of these people that were killed have relatives that are not very happy about the US and NATO. It's payback time!

[vallejoelgrande]

I see: Bush was not responsible for 9/11, a terrorist attack that actually had disastrous consequences, but Obama is responsible for a botched terrorist attack.

GOP: the party of double standards.

[Chewy240284]

so then, would Hoekstra admit that Bush' efforts did nothing but stir up more animosity?

[JamJells]

Vote these alarmist idiots out next November. We need clear thinkers and not reactionary bung holes that rattle Bush and Cheney tools again. It didn't work then and won't work now. The guy was trying to lite a suit up. LOL. Security needs to tighten up only because as time goes on we relax. That should be a good thing. Then these new freaks come and go. The bomber was 15 then 9-11 happened. Who motivated him for the past eight since he was a kid? There is the root of the problem.

[TheMrsSM]

Shockingly insightful comment.

[d3v07]

@JamJells ...exactly

[marniespeaks]

if we weren't bombing the carp out of their women and children and taking their resources they wouldn't bother us

[lllraverslll]

one has to wonder why people are getting pissed off

[ARom101]

is this guy stupid?

[rickamabob13]

Yes!

[voyeurdug]

Obama was in Hawaii (where, BTW, he was born), when the Nigerian (on a 550,000 name watch list, but NOT on any no-fly list) boarded the NW plane (operated by Delta) in Amsterdam with a valid U.S. visa. Damn, I'm surprised, too, that Obama didn't see that coming.

In 20/20 hindsight, we ~may~ find an explosive-sniffing dog in Amsterdam had a cold, and wasn't sniffing anything that day.

[RaytheRat]

Nice.

[Richardgwm]

Which of the following kills more Americans than terrorism?

Parachute failure, lightning, liposuction, or peanuts.

[Richardgwm]

Answer, all of the above.

[MadDogOfist]

all of the above

[Richardgwm]

A guy lights his pants on fire, and the Republicans expect us all cower in fear.

[asphyxiafeeling]

it's fair to hold Obama accountable for an attempted attack, but 9/11 was still ALL Clinton's fault, right?

fucking ridiculous.

[two2twinface]

more americans die from lack of healthcare or car accidents per year than from terrorism for the last decade, maybe even the last century. I think toning it down is appropriate so we pay attention to issues based on their real affect on americans.

[Francebrasil]

I totally agree with your point.

I would add that Fox and foes will keep everybody on their toes panicking and fearful. ..

Scared herds are easier to handle when you want t to lead them to the Walmart´s pastures..

[UNDERTAKER2525]

Wow, I actually agree with a conservative guest on Fixed news! Not on blaming Obama for the attack part but on the fact that he is down playing the threat of terrorism. I think he's doing it to court to the muslim world, but in the end I think that will hurt us a lot more than help us. In Saudi Arabia; the center of the muslim world, women cant drive, stoning is acceptable punishment for adultery, and honor killings are the norm. You cant reason with religious stupidity, just marginalize it.

[two2twinface]

There are ways to change religious zealotry. The first step is to recognize that they are born with as much innocence as everyone else. And the second is to give them choices other than violence. I read a book recently about micro loans and it is incredible how minor choices with a few dollars can empower an entire culture.

[larsontic]

9/11 happened on Bush's watch but they spout " he kept us safe ", now they spout it's Obama's fault that a Nigerian tried to blow up that plane, WTF.

[BigPurple121]

The GOP should have used this opportunity to show how successful their tactics have been. Terrorist attacks have become significantly less sophisticated, a sign of a leaderless army. Unfortunately, they descend into talking points & white-noise. Morons

[Intervene]

AL-qaeda doesn't exist. And home grown threat to the united states is a direct result of what is happening in afghanistan, iraq, pakistan and now yemen.