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  • Why is motortrend paying him?

  • This video is dumb and subjective. No real numbers were used to prove one was better than the other. Let's see their lap times...as a matter of fact, why review these cars if lap times were not a main focus especially since you did a track comparison. The BMW was picked because it was more comfy going over potholes? Amateur.

  • find another job u stupid! that`s the dumbest comparisson!

  • what the hell is being proved here ?? i am confused

  • Ah this bmw with the automatic is much slower than this test... the stats in this test are taken from the maunal transmission 135i ... This guy is putting manual tranny performance figures in for the auto

  • AWD vs rwd is not SIMILAR.... A nissan 350Z\G35 is a similar test

  • 82DStock jackass how could u say that,that 135i has better looks than a evo bmw needs a stupid v6tt to make it fast,but a evo has 2.0t and makes the same amount of hp do the maths

  • @lalaevo The 135i does not have a TT V6, it's an inline 6 twin turbo. What they fail to mention is that the n54 engine (135i) makes 300 peak torque at 1500 rpm, which is considered almost instantaneous. Pretty much means you get full power anywhere in the powerband which is ideal for daily driving situations.

  • @redd1th still a six cylinder

  • These American sports magazine people don't know shit and they make shit up all the time. On the other hand Top Gear from England states real facts and most importantly are driven by professional, experienced drivers.

    Who's this idiot Edward Loh?

  • your comparing a:

    1.japenese to a european car

    2. straight up performance car to luxary car

    so....

    OF COURSE THE EVO IS BETTER ON THE TRACK AND THE BMW ON THE ROAD!!!!! DUH!!!!!!!!!!!

  • this guy is bad at his job

  • Drive a 135i and you will have the biggest smile on your face. You really feel the 300 tq at 1500 rpm. Even the auto tranny has paddles and it's shifts really fast as well. It also rev matches when you down gear. The dct is not that much faster.

  • Too bad they forgot to tell you that the N54 turbo six in the Bimmer will blow up in your face, well not literally but the HPFP issue alone is enough to skip any Bimmer with that engine unless you feel like parking your car at the stealership on a regular basis.

  • really... really...? this is like comparing jellyfish with peanut butter... it makes no sense

  • @LoiBoi92 jelleyfish totally pwns peanut butter. Peanut butter has less tentacles and bioluminescence, but it is crunchy.

  • EVO all the way!

  • its a bmw its better then any import car so dont think its slow its fater then the evo euro power vs jap power

  • @lockyjose Ummm-learn-to-say-things-corre­ctly.-And-Evo-FQ400-would-dest­roy-EVERY-bmw-there-is.-And-an­-import-GTR-would-love-to-do-t­he-same.

  • @lockyjose ITS FASTER THEN THE EVO WHARE IN THE USA OR IN YOUR DREAMS

  • This is a pretty stupid comparison, one is a track car for the street (Evo) and the other is a street car for the track (BMW).

    If they wanted a closer comparison they could probably look at the 4 door S3 (German performance car) or if they were more relaxed on the body type the 370z would probably be the closest given the engine capacity.

  • edward LOH, бугага)))

  • The BMW should not be compared to a child's car. The 135i is by far the better car.

  • girls like kia better. LOL

  • Girls go for Alfa Romeo. Trust me.

  • I'm a girl.. definitely going with the EVO!! :D mmm

  • @nccaitlin Sweet! :3

  • I'm a girl .. and im in love with the EVO!

  • i own an evo X... the cR IS GREAT!!!!! MAKES ME FEEL LIKE A F1 RACER!!!!

    AND BMW? COME ON.... MAKES U FEEL LIKE A WANNABE......

  • JAPANESE HOW TO YOURSELF ....... do not bother to German cars to them many more ....

  • If a girl gets with you over a car. Shes a floozy

  • stupid comparison ....the evo is not made for "driving around "

    these cars have different concepts behind them

  • no question? german or japanese, title calling the vinner already. there will be no time that japanese will beat the german cars, not even in their dreams....

  • @vatan1923 " title calling the vinner already" Just cause it's softer!

    "there will be no time that japanese will beat the german cars"

    Just show me any japanese car, that will beat the 4 banger Brent Rau eclipse

  • @FT86TT body face with the reality, show me any japanese car company produce faster car then the germans

  • So people buy BMW's and Merc's only to impress girls. That's weak. Real men don't need high end cars to impress girls. Real men can pick up a girl whether he's driving a Pinto or a Lambo. People get EVOs for themselves not for girls. If a woman dates a guy for his ride, then you should think about her intentions. EVO GSR and MR all the way.

  • To: CoolRadium and prince of royality: I am a member of EVO family too, let's just respect individuals preference: remember we are part of evo family, I had an EVO X GSR, no doubt great car, but traded in for EVo X MR, 3 months ago, and miss GSR only when i am trying to launch... keep up the good work work boys

  • I stopped taking Motor Trend seriously long ago

  • no competitors in the market...are you fucking serious? have you heard of this car called the STI? you know. a car that directly competes with it on a year to year basis?

  • The Evo X-MR with the tc-SST( paddle shift automatic tranny )is slower than the Evo X-GSR-manual transmission..... if your looking to get the Evo X... go with the GSR.

  • @princeofroyalty2 that's not true. The MR transmission is a manual with a automatic gear shifter. The MR shifts faster than the standard gear box b/c the computer does the work for you. Plus you get a extra gear with the MR over the GSR. Anyway, performance with the MR is the same as the GSR.

  • @COOLRADIUM ok...... if u dont own an Evo X, than its better to keep quite.... Cause the Evo X MR has its advantages only around a track with curves... but on a (straight away) The Evo X-GSR is a Bit Faster....

  • @princeofroyalty2 FYI, I OWN and EVO X MR. So I know what I'm talking about. You obviously own a GSR. I was not putting down your ride, I was only commenting on the transmission. The MR has what you call a "dual-clutch automated MANUAL transmission". But OVERALL the performance is the same. They both have the same engine, AYC, AWC, etc. Look it up at Insideline, edmund, Cartech. They all say the MR shifts faster than people can, that's all. Don't be mad....WE got EVO's man. I respect the GSR's.

  • i love and respect evo X but BMW 135i is incredible!!!!!!

  • @MrAgioSSS

    The BMW 135i is an under-steering POS excuse for a BMW

  • this test is to make BMW's owners feel better

  • they didnt even do track times. If a regular evo x can beat the 135i on the top gear track an evo x mr def can.

  • What's the song playing when testing the 135i? btw Evo forever, I don't like how the 135i looks..but great performance though

  • You all should check the milage on both. 135i rated at 28hwy, and evo at 22 hwy. Before you say "who cares about the mpg?" well I care, and if I care, others must care too. lol will be trading two of my cars for a 135i soon!

  • in EU we have 135i with twin clutch ! :)

  • WOW is this in like CGA graphics?? Looks like a vid u would watch on a commodore 64 ;)

  • The 135i is a sleeper. 

  • I thought the 1 series was a girls car?! The only people I see driving these 1 series here in Europe are almost always girls. And the Mit's, why do they have to always have the silly ass spoiler on the back? Can't they design the airdrag into the body design? It makes it look totally cheap and ghetto.

  • BMW is totally ugly piece of "Thing" with 4 wheels on it.

  • dont they have a dual clutch system for the 135i?

  • @zeebra101 since 2010 for sure!!

  • @zeebra101

    no

  • why the fuck do we care if the guys single!!!???

  • .94g for the 135i and .99g for the Evo (GSR) aren't even close enough to compare. The brakes on a single stop of the 135i aren't even close to the Evo's Brembo's that can handle that stop-after-stop. They compared the cars based on 'its ok at the track" not butt-kicking, and they obviously have sensitive butts if they like the smoothness of the Bimmer enough to not simply LOVE the Evo. There's no comparison, the 135i is simply a road only car.

  • @journeymansteve

    Dude, the 135i has 6 Piston Brembo brakes too.

  • @journeymansteve

    And the only reason the 135i has .94g is because it's on run flat tires.

  • dumb test... race car vs. street car...

    they might as well compare an A4 vs an EVO because same engine size.

    NO ONE looking to buy a BMW would buy an EVO

    NO ONE looking to buy an EVO would buy a 1 series....

  • @Diddies3000 yup... :) but i do not care.. i would take bmw or evo.. it dose not metter to me i like both of them cuz BMW MITSUBISCHI and PORSCHE are my favourite brand of cars :P

  • @Diddies3000 I considered both cars when I was car shopping. Both are around 300hp, both cars are about the same price, both handle well. I picked the 135i, better engine, better looks, more practical (EVO's turning radius is just stupid.) Also, the 135i doesn't get any attention, I had 2 different idiots in Subarus try to race me while test driving the EVO.

  • @Diddies3000 I don't think it's a stupid comparison. They are in the same league: Compact cars just because one is more focused in refinement and the other on eficiency. Top Gear Australia also put them against each other.

  • @Diddies3000 Damn right. They should have compared the Evo with an Impreza. The 135i is outstanding. There's nothing like it on the market. (Hm, maybei VW Scirocco or VW R32 - Ford Focus ST?? - NO!)

  • @Diddies3000 drive the 135i before you say that. You might be amazed.

  • @Diddies3000 Completely false man. My friend has that exact dilemma on his hands.. His wife hates the evo so he is forced to buy the 135i, which is his second choice.

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  • EVO is a better all round car. These guys are morons.

  • what are you guys talking about? Women LOVE how the 370z looks. no one cares for the ugly bmw pocket rocket except for pimply faced middle class teenage boys.

  • @Descartes619 are you a girl? they're both nice cars. Probably better than yours!

  • Ya motortrend is a noobie video. Your taking a beamer cuss its more comfortable to drive in the city? Why are you buying a sport car if you just want to drive it to work, dont buy a solid engineered machine like the evo if your not going to push it .

  • Top Gear rules!

  • evos are for itinerants

  • 0-60 in 5.2? I think not. Its really 4.8. The evo 9 gets it in 4.6. 135s are slow, ive raced them before. Motor trend sucks.

  • @flipmodified66 completly true! and don't forget that the evo is a 2.0 liter turbo and de beemer is a 3.5 twin-turbo

  • @tougecolt actually the bmw is a twinturbo 3.0L six

  • @JonEBeatz ok, but still, it is no comparison to the powerplant of the mitsu

    also the reason why people buy these cars is completely diffrent

    I've never met someone who is choosing between the evo or the 135i :s

  • @flipmodified66

    Yeah right, 0-60 in 4.7seconds is slow, i doubt you really raced one before. Because I have one, and it's a rocket.

  • AWD is overrated unless you live in a very mountainous area where it snows/rains often. RWD is more fun and economical.

  • No one buys a Evo for ride comfort! rofl, thats the only reason he gave it lower marks, hes a dipshit. If your a snobby lil rich girl, you buy the beamer, if you want a mans ride, you buy the EVO!

  • @Niche79

    Who cares? If you like the car that's all that should matter. I owned an SRT-4 andf loved it. People bash it non-stop. And it will never be in a class with the EVO, STI or 135i. Nor will my SS Turbo. But I love the SS and loved the SRT and I would own one of those over any of these any day. Dig what you dig and fuck everyone else.

  • @Niche79 yea right. a bmw is a luxury car and a sports car in one. there is no way an evo can compete

  • Motor Trend are paid to speak this nonsense :) There is no meaning to argue!

  • mitsubichi is better bmw sucks

  • A big step up from an evo 9???? It's heavier, slower, has a shitty trans and looks as sexy as justout bieber (spew). BMW SMG trans is plain Jane auto?? I'm still waiting for some facts...

  • great! now lets compare a pineapple with a qumquat... they're both exotic fruit, riight? AWD sedan vs RWD coupe? wtf

  • @aaronchungrulez :)) great point!

  • bimmer looks better and more refined the evo no matther what walways looks cheap

  • the only reason evo x is getting good track times is because of the all wheel drive system and i believe it has a shorter wheel base, but dont get me wrong evo x's and subaru's are great cars i'd drive one anyday, but i think the Germans refine their cars a bit more

  • yeah but you could say that about a lot of cars like this "the only reason that ....... is getting such good track times is because of ........" and just fill in the blanks. You cant fault it because it has awd, that like someone else faulting the bmw for having a larger engine and having more power and torque. A car is a car and it has what it has as long as its standard equipment and similar price, its all fair.

  • but I'm saying that if that evo didn't have awd then it wouldn't get a good time, that's the one reason, broadly speaking, is why it can get possibly better laptimes

  • yeah your probably right, its kind of under powered for its weight so the awd helps it get better times. I think that the states should offer the FQ400 version, i believe it is better balanced in terms of power and handling.

  • Ya dude i dont get this while but it has all wheel drive. Okay so then get a bmw with all wheel drive. I bet it still wont feel as good as and evo.

  • @ ganuv

    dont be sorry, the evo is just better u cant change it anyway

    @K51E34 ur just noob

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  • Evo for me. Ive had an eclipse for 7 years, never got it serviced and it runs like new, has its share of dents though lol. When I graduate from school in a year I'm heading to the mitsubishi dealer. I don't care about brand recognition, thats not why you buy an evo.

  • they forgot the most important test. which one do girls like better

  • @scooter31n

    Hey scoot gives the scoop. Which one?

  • @scooter31n haha ur so right! XD

  • @scooter31n and by the way girls like the new m3 ;)

  • @scooter31n The Bimmer would win for sure.

  • @scooter31n they'd rate you higher in a used beamer 320 for half the price.

  • evo hahahahah ......

    it just get beat by a little car

    BMW the fucking best anyday, anytime

    I am subaru fans

  • yea, in german cars i love S550, bmw 5series, and X5, if italy i love F430

    most car i love F430, GTR35, and evo, that's my favourite cars...... i'm mitsubishi lovers

  • i would still take evo over bmw anyday

  • oooh, sorry, that's 3.0 ?? evo and GTR best car for me

  • evo is much better,sorry

  • a main point is being missed. A BMW is a sports LUXURY car. Hence, it will be coomfortable and practical on a day to day basis. The Evo is a 4 door sports car. People who buy it don't buy it to have a nice, quiet comfy ride. They buy it to have fun and enjoy doing things in that car that not many other cars can do. The Evo is capable of putting up a fight against supercars around the track.. I doubt the BMW is capable of that. If you want a car that is FUN to drive....The Evo is the one

  • My brother has the 08 Evo MR and its heaps comfy to drive in, change the exhaust piping from 3 inch to 4 inch and get a drop in the filter and an ECU upgrade and ur getting a cheap extra 100 Hp out of it making it faster then that BMW ( not dissing the Beema) but i think Evo is much more practical and is a quicker car all round.

  • @phans12 Drop a 535 dollars JuiceBox Stage 3 on the Bimmer and u got a 400 hp... Get the point?

  • Ya but 400 Hp evo will out perform that bimma wif 400 HP

    i guess its what u want the car for

    im a evo fan so i guess my point of view is kinda biased

  • 3500cc vs 2000cc, go go evo

  • yea but 8 psi boost vs 19.5 NO NO Evo!!

  • The 335i has a 3.0L Twin-Turbo Engine not 3500cc

  • 4 door sedan vs 2 door coupe, that not even you dogs can fit in the back.....barely a comparison if you needed the extra space and 2 extra doors. BTW, evo ftw

  • wow pshhyeahh is quite racist must be another dumb redneck lol anyway bmw 135i rules it has the e46 m3 soul and the e92 beauty cant go wrong with that best of both worlds

  • who on earth compares a Evo X to a 135i?!?! Thats like comparing popcorn to shit fetishes......

  • both cars are cool...

    5/5

  • I won't spend $50k on a pos car. For less than half as much, I could get a Miata and put a LS1 on it. Not only would it look better than a corvette, but it would destroy the $80k z06. All the fanboys say corvettes are good because they're light and powerful. Laff. I only responded to an internet retard to educate him in the ways of real speed. /end argument.

  • I can agree with a majority of this but seriously...an LS1 in a miata...................that's stupid. LS1's are cramped enough in S13's and a miata is way smaller. That's just dumb.

    And also, power is useless if you don't have the proper suspension and the amount of grip necessary to put the power to the ground. LS1 is nice in a light car...but useless if you can't even put the power down. A corvette would still win(P.S. I HATE CORVETTES)

  • ROFL BMW? CTS-V and a Charger. My friend you are stupid. No one buys a Caddi but niggers and old people. Charger being compared to a Bimmer??? Go kill yourself. Really please do :) Even with a V8, the Charger is slow as fuck. The Mustang GT with 100 hp less is faster. Haha

  • I would never buy an American car. If I ever do, I'd know that somewhere along the line my life has failed. Go 135i !

  • For 1, the topic of American cars isn't even related. For 2, I don't understand how these people get off by saying American cars are crap. For every Japanese and European car there's an American one that will meet or beat any rival from over seas. Evo'? Cobalt SS TC, SRT-4 and now Taurus SHO. BMW? CTS-V, Charger SRT-8. There is no doubt that American cars are competitive and far exceed many manufacturers overseas.

  • You cannot seriously be trying to claim that a Cobalt SS can match up against an Evo X.. Im all for american cars but don't kid yourself.

  • Considering the fact that I have seen Cobalts take down Evo's. Yeah, I would say that it's quite possible. Evo's and STI's really arn't what people hype them up to be. They're nice, but for the money you'll save from buying either one, you can put more goodies on a SS.

  • Take both cars, stock, out to any track. Ive driven both and quite honestly enjoyed them both very much. The EvoX is more expensive, while the SS is better value it cannot keep up with the evo on a track.

    Sure you can hop up an SS to beat an evo x, no problem. Irrelevant to what you're arguing, however.

    Evo's are hyped up, but keep in mind there is some truth to that hype. Both are good cars but don't let your bias distract you from seeing the cars how they are.

  • ur an imbecil, comparing bmw with ur american shit, well done

  • Two things, that what Cadillac was built for, to be a direct competitor with the likes of BMW, so, if you're trying to insult me by saying that there is nothing to compare from America to European's, then I think you're sadly mistaken. Also, if you try insulting someone, try learning how to spell IMBECILE, or just don't use words you cannot spell in the first place. So you my friend, are an idiot.

  • like I said, stupid american.... So go fuck ursef...

  • Stupid American. Ha, how can I be the stupid one when I can spell? European jackasses. Any idiot can build a car with 100k+ at their disposal. It takes intelligence to make every dollar worth it. How about you rent a tow truck so you can pull your head out of your own arrogant ass.

  • @zickaka oh boy... 10 thumbs up from me :)) BUT WAIT! that's NOT AMERICAAAAN! :)))))) Mitsubishi is made in Japan (specially the Evo's). BMWs are German cars most of them made in the US & Mexico... i suggest u do some reading before u keep bitching about one or the oder... (witch one of these cars u drive? - & i mean NOT in Need for Speed) ;) ok..

  • damn........i hate this asian asshole

  • about the 0-60 times, It'd probably be because BMW would have made that 5.1 seconds in the manual, not auto.

  • wtf

  • weird pairing indeed, people who are comparing 135i will mostly compare it with 370z.... & evo will always compared to impreza sti... as those are totally different buying mindsets

  • I asked my friend who is a tech at BMW while he was working on my car, and he whispered in my ear: Do not buy anything BMW with a turbo, unless you are only keeping it a couple years. You will need a new motor as soon as the warranty ends

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  • Faster than the Evo, more comfterable, less Boy Racer looking, More luxurious than the EVO, BMW has a better name than mitsubishi lol no one conseders MITSU anymore when it comes to import tuning its about Nissan and Honda... and u get a BMW same price range...

    why the hell would you want the EVO??? maybe to look cool but cmon 4.7 0-60 in a AUTOMATIC the 100K + M6 does 0-60 in 4.5 cmon the 135i is all around great lol Try racing one of these and the EVO will get ALL 4 DOORS BLOWN OFF!!! LOL

  • Nie mówie zbyt dobrze po angielsku....

    try to understand that... :)

  • for the size difference it's not even marginally lighter than a 3 series like 200 lbs

  • See the Germans know how to make a good car. All you have to do is flash the ecu, and turn up the boost a couple psi and swap some internals and you have like 450+hp

  • and a ruined gearbox.  besides, i doubt the chassis on a 135 can take 450 horsepower, or else they would have made an m1!

  • Dinan, and other BMW companies make upgrades also available for transmission. But yeah you're most likely not gonna have 100% reliability.

  • bmw will have kits to push 400hp500hp range look up horsepower freaks. Could be the affordable M3

  • if only the 135i wasn't so ugly

  • get a fucking 335i coupe its the same engine blablablaa...

    thats why i buyed the 335i it was better looking than the 135i

  • "why i buyed"? Where did you go to school, Kansas? I assume you meant "bought"? Its hard to imagine that a brain surgeon like u didnt go with the Aston Martin.

  • sorry english is not my native idiom

  • well then why are you trying to impress me with your vocabulary? You used idiom incorrectly. It is a figure of speech, not a synonym for language.

    It is a type of sentence that cannot be relied upon to be the literal meaning to what it is describing.

    Things like "spend time" is an idiom. You don't "spend time" in the literal sense, but it is a common way to describe the passing of our life. You are american, you should speak english.

  • yea it's the same engine but the 335i is heavier implies slower.

  • Yeah, you have a point. I think it's butt ugly. That seems to be the trend with European cars, or at least German cars, at the moment.

  • Love both cars but I would pick the 135i.  Those Germans just know how to make a great car.

  • Edmunds dyno test 135i - 285HP/291TQ to the wheels. The engine is rated at 300HP and 300TQ on the 135i and it manages to put all of that power to the wheels. Damn, thats nuts!

  • the engine is just underrated from the factory, it doesn't have a magical drivetrain or anything.

  • lol american cars are souless and cheap in the interior

    europians well expensive sadly

    asian fast and reliable and full option standard useally tha last time americans made a good car was in the 70's and they only whent down hill from there

  • totally agree idk why everyone goes so crazy over mustangs

  • They are both under 50 grand and they are both turbo charged. Thats the only comparison here. One is a German "luxury" car, the other is a Japanese tuner. One is a coupe, and one is a sports sedan. Big differences here.

  • jesus christ...such a big difference between hosts on big time car shows like top gear and this...sounds like the guys readin off a sheet..while jeremy clarkson and richard hammond give the show life and entertainment

  • this fucking guy know nothing about cars !

  • What a compare!4cylinders+ turbo vs 6cylinders + twinturbo. Wow! very nice, very nice...

    JDM MR version has 330HP and much better suspension than this USDM shit I saw in this video(the car handles like a boat on the sea). Power is nothing, Torque is that thing that gives a car acceleration and top speed. How about a compare betwen Japan in-line 6 + turbo with other in-line 6+(even)twinturbo... You americans don't know nothing about cars...about anything I foorgot to add...

  • they compared the two of them because they are relatively the same price. Yeah it just so happened that the bmw had a better engine... but if its about the same price, that makes it a fair comparison.

  • bmw has the better engine? 4 cyl single turbo and 6 cyl twinturbo both at 300 HP...which engine seems better to u ?

  • 3teethleft you dont seem to understand the 135i is tuned down because it doesnt need to push the turbo's or the engine. Take a look at Dinan and Vsihnu if you want to see what its capable of(with minimal modification), 11s in the 1/4th mile and 0-60 in the high 3's.

  • the one whose has far more potential for easy boost increase. can you name it?

  • yeah and which engine is more stressed???

  • Same prices? I'd take the BMW any day! Evo is somewhat ugly and does not feel as comfortable. You can pick up chicks with the BMW, and pick up boys with he EVO...heh heh.

  • I'd go for the Bimmer then, I dont want to pick up guys. haha

  • @tigercrap LOL, your so funny. But if you need a BMW to pick up women you have psychological issues that need to be fixed. I pick up girls in college with out a car. I'm not saying they were Jessica Albas' but, they were way above average.

  • @tigercrap You ain't gonna pick up chicks with a 1-series. You need atleast a 3-series.

  • American cars do not suck..

    European cars are not "expensive"

    Japanese cars are great..and are reliable..but they're bland, they're cheap, and they're far from unique or commanding in appearance.

  • Could not agree more... Jap cars are boring, my dad owns two Toyota's both are vary reliable but have no excitement. The Japanese are not vary original in the power train or body design, they are vary good at improving reliability within the automotive industry. The one series is a great marketing idea. BMW now competes directly with rice