Shinhan Winners League Light vs hyvaa 2009-03-01 @ Medusa

[sd48]

muta defense with bio is impossible on this.

[dazedheroine]

nice game

[YCSposter]

winner didnt even play that well, losing loads but still won. damn terran just sitting on 2 bases

[ahkbar]

how you can say he didnt play well? He opened with a heavy 5 rax before fact build and kept z from taking 3rd while still getting tech relatively fast. Sure he took dmg from mutas but he killed z's third and to be fair medusa is a difficult map to defend against muta harass. light attacked and pushed the entire game and kept hyvaa to 2 bases so i dont see why you say "damn terran sitting on 2 bases" its comments like these that make me think the ppl that watch sc dont even understand it

[YCSposter]

its just pretty unfair the zerg has to expand all the time, but they make one mistake and the terran can just push straight into their main with no problems at all and sit on 2 bases for as long as they want and still pressure everywhere. light didnt play especially good in any way just standard

[ahkbar]

Once again totally uneducated response. Z doesn't HAVE to expand all the time, they CAN. A T doesn't have the option of going for 4 bases and huge macro early or they would get crushed by the Z every time. Making mistakes for tT is also just as unforgiving. You missclick and you can lose your entire army to 3 lurkers or if you let 1 dark swarm get cast you can lose your entire base. Light played far from standard, and if you knew anything about sc his 5 rax build would have pointed that out.

[scorinaldi]

sorry, i gotta call bull on this. z is far, far more unforgiving than terran in ZvT.

terran has cheaper , more effective units, ( in MnM ) and vessels, which once they reach critical mass, are an autowin.

also, terran, can use drop after drop ( and if any of those work it's usually enough to win the game )

in theory you're right, but in practice ( on most maps ) terran has an advantage to zerg in ZvT.

[ahkbar]

How could you say 200/200 worth of MnM is more effective then an utralisk? Id take an ultralisk over 6 m&m any day. Vessels are 225 gas(cheap?) and if zerg lets u build up 10+ vessels mid game they deserve to lose because a terran has to be so aggressive with them to get full use that a zerg can easily pick at least some of them off. Also sure drops can win the game but 2 scourge (25/75) can pick off a dship full of units (500/150) and also cost a terran the game because a zerg can take a 4th.

[Andnie]

I also feel that way sometimes. But then again Zerg actually do win like 50% of the times against terran. So overall it is balanced and "fair".

[uglymoose89]

you also have to remember that when playing zerg they usually "expand" because if you're gonna have another hatchery you might as well put it near some resources. It's not necessary to expand near a mineral patch but it helps.

[browngom]

dude, of course u are gonna lose a lot of units if ur going bionic (M&M&F). unless ur Boxer, but hes a whole new level of SC players

[JFKWT]

please do some research on "SK Terran" before posting this. also 2 base terran vs 2 gas zerg is obviously an advantage

[derwahreTJ]

i like ur fast posting. keep it up! thx a lot