Aliens are only demons, THERE ARE NO, I REPEAT NO EXTRATERESTRIALS, THEY ARE ONLY DEMONS, THERE IS NO ASHTAR, THERE IS NO PLEIADIANS. There may well be a hybrid race, but it's man and demon made, it's not a natural being like us who wait to help mankind. Wake all of you who believe in Ashtar and the like, your'e only helping to bring our distruction and you will not go to 5th dimension believing in this crap. Don't be stupid Americans who fall for anything, God have mercy on us all!
@PersonifiedMusic So when are they ever, ever gonna make contact, come out of the closet, huh, they've been around since the dawn of time and haven't shown themselves in thousands of years. It's a set up and your'e falling for it evidently. I just know the truth, all you have to do is study, study the origins of demons and then compare it to aliens, the government helps the "aliens." Good luck with your gulibleness and denial and when they trick you, don't say someone didn't try to warn you.
@dekerranda Demons, lol. Someone has been getting brainwashed once too often by some pastor. Lol, of course your Bible is true. Of course Noah put every single animal on his ship because he could walk to Antarctica. Of course someone magically returned from the dead. You are the gullible one my friend, not me
Don't believe any of it, not a word, it's all bullshit lies, actually it is happening, but not as you most of you think. I saw a Propecy Club episode, the guest proposed that our government is working with the aliens to bring in the "New Age" the aliens are only demons, that's all, they are only bent on our discruction. The humans that help them, ie provide space craft and so on are either possesed or decieved. He said the contactees could later be programed to do anything I believe this too.
i have seen the black triangles. LINDA M.H. has done a wonderful job tracking down everyone involved in this case& 4 making it PUBLIC....our black triangle experience was witnessed by 11 people from august 23rd 2010- sept.12th2010. each night the black triangle flashed colored blinking lighs,we all thought it looked like a code,but nobody knew how 2 read or break the code. on sept 10th 2010 my skin was red like a sunburn after being exposed 2 the lights for 30+ minutes. this is real but Who?
trippy. i paused the video at 0:52 and went to google. typed in "binary translator' and went to the second link. typed the binary code into wordpad and pasted it into the translator.
Proof positive that someone jotted down some binary, sketched another picture of a cute little space ship like the ones we've all seen a hundred times before and cooked up a UFO story.
Oh, and that any story, even this one can look good when it's jazzed up for TV. I got a lot to say. I'll let you all know where to find my blog when it's finished.
its doesnt mean aliens used our alphabet.. it means they knew how to communicate with us throw us language that we would eventually be able to figure out..which we did.open your eyes dumbass
i had a look at this message for myself and not at the words but the characters in the brackets *ofnuousce* of corse it doesnt make sense so i made an anagram of the characters and it clearly can be converted to **** ounce of us **** or maybe it is supposed to be **** once of us **** are we an ounce of them in mass of something say brain? DNA? genetics? or maybe they were us and thats why theyve said once of us were we once them? if anyone has any good answers RSVP on mj1993@hotmail.co.uk
...philosophically, we could perhaps have a shared language of what is simply correct and incorrect, which is unchanging. So no matter how abstract or obtuse they might seem to us, you could argue that we could indeed think alike, because it is thought based on what is factually true. I know there are plenty of people who have far more scientific knowledge than me, but that is just how I've come to look at it.
I don't want to take over the comment section so I'll PM you my next reply.
...they may be, they would surely still discover things like gravity and your planet rotating around the sun, because that is mere understanding of the universe you inhabit. These things don't change regardless of how you look at things or what your instinctual nature is (you could argue also that once you advance to a certain level you transcend your nature and simply become an intelligent creature, like I believe we will one day hopefully). So then even if we don't think like them...
specs in great swathes. But this isn't because they are 'cold' but they may simply not have the same parts of the brain which govern things like empathy etc, and are completely practical-minded, which although perhaps an unpleasant reality, might actually be favourable for progressing quickly (that's not to say it's preferable). Even if a species was as different as this they would still need to figure out a lot of the same things in order to advance. Because regardless of how different...
...very different. Even after becoming an advanced species, their thinking might be somewhat different to ours because it is influenced by their nature which could be different, similar to how even now our thinking and behaviour is somewhat influenced by our nature. An example of this could be that despite being a highly technologically advanced species they could have no interest in philisophical thought whatsoever and be quite 'cold', thinking nothing of killing their own kind or other...
...them. Back on topic, they may not have intended to be found and make contact, we just don't know. Again I'm not saying whether I believe this story or not, it could be complete rubbish, but the point I'm making is that you can't use lazy arguments to disprove things because then you are no different to the guy you claim is making very vague and suspicious claims. You have to think things through and this is where a lot of people go wrong IMO. Sorry for spam commenting slightly BTW everyone.
...like the mantra many of us probably believe, which is that it is probably better for you in the long run to not take shortcuts even though it might not be as quick or easy. Perhaps they are just observing us out of interest, which I know I would find fascinating if I came accross an alien civilisation. If that was the case, I would have thought it was preferable for them not to know you were there because then you could come and go as you pleased without hassle and also without confusing...
...you could easily find out just by looking it up. I'm not saying I believe this guy, but it is worth taking this into consideration because there are holes in that argument. Of course there are also holes in the possible validity of his story also, because in the thirty years since he could have easily learnt binary code, which would explain the validity of the translation if indeed it is correct. Apologies if my grammar and spelling is bad everyone.
Why would aliens use binary to give us a message that will be later translated into english anyway? That means they took the time to learn how to write their message in English and then took the extra unnecessary step of writing the english message back to binary. It just doesn;t make any sense! (lol)
That guy's a web programmer. Binary code is mysterious to him. Back in the days when this hoax was perpetrated, binary code was dead simple for programmers. You had to flip switches just to start a computer. I wrote a program in 10 minutes to encode this: 1010100 1101000 1101001 1110011 100000 1101001 1110011 100000 1100001 100000 1101101 1100101 1110011 1110011 1100001 1100111 1100101 100000 1100110 1110010 1101111 1101101 100000 1100001 1101100 1101001 1100101 1101110 1110011 100001
Intelligence papers on the "Rendlesham incident" have gone missing, files from the National Archives reveal. The missing files relate to a report of mysterious lights from US servicemen at RAF Woodbridge in Suffolk in 1980. The disappearance came to light with the release of 8,000 previously classified documents on UFOs. Officials found a "huge" gap where defence intelligence files relating to the case should be, the papers show.
It's fine - even commendable - to be skeptical. But skepticism exists on a is a line that, at one point, becomes cynicism and misanthropy (plain old "people hating"). People are afraid of being duped, of being made to look like buffoons. I've stared something on the order of what they saw down, at close range. There is simply no reward, for a reasonably mentally healthy person, to invent such stories. It was a shocker to me - but we're really not alone. Give these guys a break.
@guymerritt Either one is lying or telling the truth, there is no middle ground. The man said he TOUCHED the craft, and that it was warm to the touch. There were plenty of witnesses there also. Plus this event transpired over several days, multiple witnesses on each occasion. The bible says "Out of the mouth of two or three witnesses shall ALL THINGS be established." He's telling the truth.
Jim Penniston is not an idiot, but, if you listen to the man speak you recognize that he's not about to be solicited by the Rand Corporation to work at their think tank; he's a very ordinary guy who did not cook all of this stuff up... Listen to what Charles Halt - the lieutenant base commander of a top-secret nuclear base - has to say about this incident. Halt is an extremely bright man. I didn't believe in this stuff either. But, when you see a UFO, your collective tunes may change.
I wondered the same as a previous poster about the mechanics whereby this code was converted to the English language. On the other hand - as someone who damned near touched an enormous, silent triangle in 1994 (and had hard-core Christian c-workers who swear they were abducted) - this is the best documented UFO sighting anywhere, anytime. The code notwithstanding, the training of these people - and the intellect of the base commander - makes this incident very difficult to dismiss.
This 'computer analyst', whoever he is, has not said what he's done to translate the series of noughts (or zeros) and ones into a message. In any case, it doesn't make sense. If a certain bit of this binary stands for 'A' and another bit for 'B' and so on, it would mean alien language is based on the English alphabet. It would mean the aliens took English and said 'let A be 00010 in our language (or whatever) and so on. It's bonkers.
Uh, they are obviously more advanced than us - they would have given the code to us in our language, they could have given it in any language, maybe they know 1000's of languages - including telepathy. Or they could have given the code to us in a language we would never be able to decode, but what would be the point.
Because maybe the time wasn't right. We are still an immature race - we shoot and kill anything "different". Check out the 1942 LA Ufo situation, and then our government claimed it was a weather balloon. Sure, a weather balloon that they unloaded on and couldn't even hit.
@Denniss7420 The aliens decide the time isn't right to communicate, so they communicate anyway but in code? If the time wasn't right, why communicate at all?
How is the 1942 LA UFO situation relevant to this issue under discussion?
@raggedmoorlander That is a fair point, but on the other hand, imagine this story is true and you are one of these extra-terrestrials. What do you think would be more likely to be believed by the logical minded of our species: a message in the form of tecnological communication which can then apparently be translated and verified, or just having some guy say he heard a voice in his head that told him we were being monitored by aliens and then give the co-ordinates to a mythical island that...
@RizzDizzify Which do I think would be more likely to be believed by intelligent homo sapiens? Neither. Absolutely neither! I suppose, if the extraterrestrials communicated the solution to Fermi's Last Theorum (which no one had THEN come up with) it would at least make us all sit up. I'm sure intelligent ETs would think up something even much better than that, if 'believing humans' were what they were after. The code is arbitrary and the message incomplete anyway
@raggedmoorlander Again imagine you are one of them, you might have an ethical approach to contact. If this is the case I doubt you would gift someone the secret to a major scientific or technological leap just for the sake of performing a party trick or to prove that you are real. Why do you assume they could care less if you believe they are real or not? I know if it was me I might think doing that was completely unethical and probably detrimental to their development as a species. It's...
@RizzDizzify Well you CAN't imagine what it is like to be an alien, any more than you can imagine what it is like to be a bat (or vice versa). I agree: why should we assume they want to form party tricks? But you said that a coded message could be explained by the aliens wanting to be 'believed by the logical-minded of our species'. I merely pointed out that IF being believed was their aim, there are better ways going about it than just communicating in code.
@raggedmoorlander Well that is not completely true IMO. There is quite some difference between being a bat or a lion, animals which are concerned with instinctual things and live how nature intended, and being an intelligent species which is concerned with advancement and think and do things outside of their mere predetermined nature. An alien species may well think differently and come to conclusions in a different way because as you say their expereince and understanding of life might be...
@RizzDizzify Your original point was that aliens might have communicated in code because they wanted to be believed by 'the logical-minded of our species'. I pointed out that there were many ways I could think of (and surely many ways that haven't occurred to me) that would be vastly more effective. A measure of its effectivness is that nobody believes this code is ET outside ufology and not many within ufology do. Aliens are unlikely to resemble stupid humans.
@raggedmoorlander Although I appreciate (and to a certain extent, share) your skepticism, let's not forget some basics. If you were to write a message in a 'near-universal' language, you'd try to break things down as simply as possible. And perhaps the binary message contained some sort of primer that would enable the 'programmer' to establish some sort of syntax with which to create a message. The english words would then simply be the closest 'interpretation' of the message in english.
@lordmolotov What 'near-universal language' do you have in mind? Are you talking about binary code? This COULD be used as a language. Any binary code (one-zero, white-black etc) can form the basis of a language. But it is not a language if it merely ENCODES English, Spanish, German, Chinese...or alien.
@raggedmoorlander Being a fan of Carl Sagan, and holding Contact as one of my favorite movies about ETs, I share his idea that mathematics would be the closest thing to a universal language, based on what we know as of today. I'm not sure if this factored in to the decoding of the message referenced in the video, but it would be logical.
@lordmolotov I'm a bit of a Carl Sagan fan myself. The question of whether mathematics is a construct of consciousness or whether it is out there in the external world has puzzled philosophers. Kant thought the former. If he's right, aliens might not even have mathematics. In any case surely it is only the arbitrary symbols we give to mathematical entities that constitute a language. Germans, English, Greek etc can 'speak' this language only because of these shared symbols.
@raggedmoorlander He's just grouping the bits into ASCII. Not hard for aliens to replicate, if they wanted to communicate. Question is how did that air force officer get it, and if he's a hoaxter or for real. It's interesting that they ended up with coordinates just off England. Why don't they go and investigate. I wonder what format they used to encode the coordinates. If it's long/lat, then it implies the aliens know about our cultural bias of using Greenwich as the Prime Meridian.
@raggedmoorlander Now I'm not saying i believe in what this video is portaying, It could easily be fake. But regarding your comment, if you were to watch the entire show, the show is about how some peoples believe aliens have been guiding us throughout history to make the correct choices. Now if that were so, then you could asume that they would know english from watching our languages form and change. So perhaps if this is true, they were speaking to us in our language so we'd understand.
@raggedmoorlander Who's to say "aliens" speak in another language? Perhaps they are a heightened human race who have mastered many things that we have yet to... No-one knows so no-one can really say anything on what they may look like, sound like or what languages they can speak...
@Hunter1902 Yes, absolutely! Even if they had a language, we could never understand it, nor could there be any possibility of translation, because they would 'cut up' the world differently to us - and it would be a different world to cut up anyway, as different to our 'world' as the seagull world, jelly fish world, spider world is. The question, 'what is it like to be a lion?' is impossible to answer, a fortiori 'what is it like to be this or that alien?'.
@raggedmoorlander yeah, because a super advanced civilization totally couldnt eaves drop in on us and figure out our language, but we can figure out a bunch of egyptian birds and squiggles. google a binary translator and punch that stuff in, theres a message about "exploration of humanity"
@raggedmoorlander If you watched this whole documentary (i think it's like 20+ hours I'm not finished watching them) they compair E.T. with old myths and stories, in their perspective of that time they described them as 'angels/gods'. For example (from the bible), God (E.T.) made us to their own image. So it wouldnt be very weird if they speak our languages, and mathematic is a universal language.
@Sm0k4bl3 My argument here isn't against the possibility of aliens speaking English (that's a separate issue); it's against this 'code' thing. If an anthropologist visited a remote tribe in some forgotten corner of the globe, he might first learn the language and communicate in it to members of that tribe. But what would be the point of translating an Enlish sentence (e.g. 'I am an anthropologist and I would like to study you') into the tribal language and then into binary code?
@raggedmoorlander I see your point, could it be they did this deliberatly, so no one could understand it, until they implemented a binary code understanding into our knowledge to know what they actually mean?
@raggedmoorlander i have no fucking idea too , but if they're are smarter than us so if then came on a space ship maybe they first just watched and learned our languages ? :P
@PersonifiedMusic Even if they did, it still wouldn't make sense for them to send thought messages in binary code and not English. Anyway, we know how the English language evolved - we've painstakingly traced it back to the Indo-European language. Look, this binary code can be make to mean anything. It can be made to mean, 'bonjour, nous sommes d'une planete tres lointaine' or to mean, 'hola, es trampa!' or anything.
@PersonifiedMusic Or maybe these are just random zeros and ones and not any kind of code at all. Maybe it doesn't mean anything at all.
What does 100101101001001101 mean? Well, I just wrote down random zeros and ones. But anyone could come along and say it means HELLO...because 1001 means H; 0110 means E; 100 means L; 1101 means O
Of course, the more digits there are, the more imperfect any contrived message - which is exactly the case here (missing words, awkward phrasing etc.)
The coordinates are for a ice age island that has since been sunk by rising waters some think was called Hy Brasil in myth. Its tempting to think this island that did n fact exist during the last ice age may have been colonized by advanced humans.
Aliens are only demons, THERE ARE NO, I REPEAT NO EXTRATERESTRIALS, THEY ARE ONLY DEMONS, THERE IS NO ASHTAR, THERE IS NO PLEIADIANS. There may well be a hybrid race, but it's man and demon made, it's not a natural being like us who wait to help mankind. Wake all of you who believe in Ashtar and the like, your'e only helping to bring our distruction and you will not go to 5th dimension believing in this crap. Don't be stupid Americans who fall for anything, God have mercy on us all!
dekerranda 1 month ago
@dekerranda This is what religion does to you....
PersonifiedMusic 1 month ago
@PersonifiedMusic So when are they ever, ever gonna make contact, come out of the closet, huh, they've been around since the dawn of time and haven't shown themselves in thousands of years. It's a set up and your'e falling for it evidently. I just know the truth, all you have to do is study, study the origins of demons and then compare it to aliens, the government helps the "aliens." Good luck with your gulibleness and denial and when they trick you, don't say someone didn't try to warn you.
dekerranda 1 month ago
@dekerranda Demons, lol. Someone has been getting brainwashed once too often by some pastor. Lol, of course your Bible is true. Of course Noah put every single animal on his ship because he could walk to Antarctica. Of course someone magically returned from the dead. You are the gullible one my friend, not me
PersonifiedMusic 1 month ago
Don't believe any of it, not a word, it's all bullshit lies, actually it is happening, but not as you most of you think. I saw a Propecy Club episode, the guest proposed that our government is working with the aliens to bring in the "New Age" the aliens are only demons, that's all, they are only bent on our discruction. The humans that help them, ie provide space craft and so on are either possesed or decieved. He said the contactees could later be programed to do anything I believe this too.
dekerranda 1 month ago
i have seen the black triangles. LINDA M.H. has done a wonderful job tracking down everyone involved in this case& 4 making it PUBLIC....our black triangle experience was witnessed by 11 people from august 23rd 2010- sept.12th2010. each night the black triangle flashed colored blinking lighs,we all thought it looked like a code,but nobody knew how 2 read or break the code. on sept 10th 2010 my skin was red like a sunburn after being exposed 2 the lights for 30+ minutes. this is real but Who?
sodolafa 1 month ago
So is James Peniston lying about the binary code or his whole encounter?
KMPaz4op 2 months ago
trippy. i paused the video at 0:52 and went to google. typed in "binary translator' and went to the second link. typed the binary code into wordpad and pasted it into the translator.
first thing i see is "explorationofhum" HMMMM...
RATAPWNZU 2 months ago
Proof positive that someone jotted down some binary, sketched another picture of a cute little space ship like the ones we've all seen a hundred times before and cooked up a UFO story.
Oh, and that any story, even this one can look good when it's jazzed up for TV. I got a lot to say. I'll let you all know where to find my blog when it's finished.
aZucchelli1 2 months ago
@aZucchelli1 have you finished it?
tomsk14 1 month ago
its doesnt mean aliens used our alphabet.. it means they knew how to communicate with us throw us language that we would eventually be able to figure out..which we did.open your eyes dumbass
SCommanderJR 3 months ago
Only 13,000 views? the worlds so brainwashed its sick
SCommanderJR 3 months ago
It's just too random. Why tell him in binary? Really.
Excessivecontrast 3 months ago
Easy to explain by me
moya138 4 months ago
yeah sure and written in 21st century English?
lukeo25 4 months ago
@raggedmorrlander thats not how binary code works
mrsinister13 6 months ago
lets crack the fucking code
HankIsAwsome 6 months ago
i had a look at this message for myself and not at the words but the characters in the brackets *ofnuousce* of corse it doesnt make sense so i made an anagram of the characters and it clearly can be converted to **** ounce of us **** or maybe it is supposed to be **** once of us **** are we an ounce of them in mass of something say brain? DNA? genetics? or maybe they were us and thats why theyve said once of us were we once them? if anyone has any good answers RSVP on mj1993@hotmail.co.uk
mathewlovesrachel 7 months ago
@mathewlovesrachel perhaps 2012 is linked to that, say, that on 21st of december 2012 we will find out or "they" will show themselves to us
joc69uk32 6 months ago
who knows if this is real, all i know is that something is out there we still dont know of.
jet44444 7 months ago
bender 0011000111000100101000111000
codsaner 7 months ago
i needed more info on this binary incident but there are no facts to back anything up...
if u have any, throw them out
KCArmstrongXIIV 8 months ago
...philosophically, we could perhaps have a shared language of what is simply correct and incorrect, which is unchanging. So no matter how abstract or obtuse they might seem to us, you could argue that we could indeed think alike, because it is thought based on what is factually true. I know there are plenty of people who have far more scientific knowledge than me, but that is just how I've come to look at it.
I don't want to take over the comment section so I'll PM you my next reply.
RizzDizzify 9 months ago
...they may be, they would surely still discover things like gravity and your planet rotating around the sun, because that is mere understanding of the universe you inhabit. These things don't change regardless of how you look at things or what your instinctual nature is (you could argue also that once you advance to a certain level you transcend your nature and simply become an intelligent creature, like I believe we will one day hopefully). So then even if we don't think like them...
RizzDizzify 9 months ago
specs in great swathes. But this isn't because they are 'cold' but they may simply not have the same parts of the brain which govern things like empathy etc, and are completely practical-minded, which although perhaps an unpleasant reality, might actually be favourable for progressing quickly (that's not to say it's preferable). Even if a species was as different as this they would still need to figure out a lot of the same things in order to advance. Because regardless of how different...
RizzDizzify 9 months ago
...very different. Even after becoming an advanced species, their thinking might be somewhat different to ours because it is influenced by their nature which could be different, similar to how even now our thinking and behaviour is somewhat influenced by our nature. An example of this could be that despite being a highly technologically advanced species they could have no interest in philisophical thought whatsoever and be quite 'cold', thinking nothing of killing their own kind or other...
RizzDizzify 9 months ago
...them. Back on topic, they may not have intended to be found and make contact, we just don't know. Again I'm not saying whether I believe this story or not, it could be complete rubbish, but the point I'm making is that you can't use lazy arguments to disprove things because then you are no different to the guy you claim is making very vague and suspicious claims. You have to think things through and this is where a lot of people go wrong IMO. Sorry for spam commenting slightly BTW everyone.
RizzDizzify 9 months ago
...like the mantra many of us probably believe, which is that it is probably better for you in the long run to not take shortcuts even though it might not be as quick or easy. Perhaps they are just observing us out of interest, which I know I would find fascinating if I came accross an alien civilisation. If that was the case, I would have thought it was preferable for them not to know you were there because then you could come and go as you pleased without hassle and also without confusing...
RizzDizzify 9 months ago
...you could easily find out just by looking it up. I'm not saying I believe this guy, but it is worth taking this into consideration because there are holes in that argument. Of course there are also holes in the possible validity of his story also, because in the thirty years since he could have easily learnt binary code, which would explain the validity of the translation if indeed it is correct. Apologies if my grammar and spelling is bad everyone.
RizzDizzify 9 months ago
Why would aliens use binary to give us a message that will be later translated into english anyway? That means they took the time to learn how to write their message in English and then took the extra unnecessary step of writing the english message back to binary. It just doesn;t make any sense! (lol)
STUNNA97 9 months ago
history channel feeds the public manipulative bullshit
gatorfanupnorth 11 months ago
That guy's a web programmer. Binary code is mysterious to him. Back in the days when this hoax was perpetrated, binary code was dead simple for programmers. You had to flip switches just to start a computer. I wrote a program in 10 minutes to encode this: 1010100 1101000 1101001 1110011 100000 1101001 1110011 100000 1100001 100000 1101101 1100101 1110011 1110011 1100001 1100111 1100101 100000 1100110 1110010 1101111 1101101 100000 1100001 1101100 1101001 1100101 1101110 1110011 100001
Nomoreidsleft 11 months ago
Intelligence papers on the "Rendlesham incident" have gone missing, files from the National Archives reveal. The missing files relate to a report of mysterious lights from US servicemen at RAF Woodbridge in Suffolk in 1980. The disappearance came to light with the release of 8,000 previously classified documents on UFOs. Officials found a "huge" gap where defence intelligence files relating to the case should be, the papers show.
MJ12DAVE 1 year ago
has anyone tryed the corrdinates on the moon
pokeknowledge2007 1 year ago
one of the most interesting things I've ever seen
And i dont believe in all the UFO stuff
GunGemini 1 year ago
It's fine - even commendable - to be skeptical. But skepticism exists on a is a line that, at one point, becomes cynicism and misanthropy (plain old "people hating"). People are afraid of being duped, of being made to look like buffoons. I've stared something on the order of what they saw down, at close range. There is simply no reward, for a reasonably mentally healthy person, to invent such stories. It was a shocker to me - but we're really not alone. Give these guys a break.
guymerritt 1 year ago
@guymerritt Either one is lying or telling the truth, there is no middle ground. The man said he TOUCHED the craft, and that it was warm to the touch. There were plenty of witnesses there also. Plus this event transpired over several days, multiple witnesses on each occasion. The bible says "Out of the mouth of two or three witnesses shall ALL THINGS be established." He's telling the truth.
Prostylefilms 1 year ago
Jim Penniston is not an idiot, but, if you listen to the man speak you recognize that he's not about to be solicited by the Rand Corporation to work at their think tank; he's a very ordinary guy who did not cook all of this stuff up... Listen to what Charles Halt - the lieutenant base commander of a top-secret nuclear base - has to say about this incident. Halt is an extremely bright man. I didn't believe in this stuff either. But, when you see a UFO, your collective tunes may change.
guymerritt 1 year ago
I wondered the same as a previous poster about the mechanics whereby this code was converted to the English language. On the other hand - as someone who damned near touched an enormous, silent triangle in 1994 (and had hard-core Christian c-workers who swear they were abducted) - this is the best documented UFO sighting anywhere, anytime. The code notwithstanding, the training of these people - and the intellect of the base commander - makes this incident very difficult to dismiss.
guymerritt 1 year ago
At 3:05, projectile sound from the boss monster in Doom ] [.
fuaburisu 1 year ago 7
@fuaburisu lol that sound was also in Magic Carpet (PS1)
I've heard it a lot in various media
axelmckaese2 5 months ago
This 'computer analyst', whoever he is, has not said what he's done to translate the series of noughts (or zeros) and ones into a message. In any case, it doesn't make sense. If a certain bit of this binary stands for 'A' and another bit for 'B' and so on, it would mean alien language is based on the English alphabet. It would mean the aliens took English and said 'let A be 00010 in our language (or whatever) and so on. It's bonkers.
raggedmoorlander 1 year ago 14
@raggedmoorlander Penniston said they were time travelers, "us" from the future.
drsta84 1 year ago
@raggedmoorlander
Uh, they are obviously more advanced than us - they would have given the code to us in our language, they could have given it in any language, maybe they know 1000's of languages - including telepathy. Or they could have given the code to us in a language we would never be able to decode, but what would be the point.
Denniss7420 1 year ago
@Denniss7420 So why communicate in code at all - why not communicate to us directly in English?
raggedmoorlander 1 year ago
@raggedmoorlander
Because maybe the time wasn't right. We are still an immature race - we shoot and kill anything "different". Check out the 1942 LA Ufo situation, and then our government claimed it was a weather balloon. Sure, a weather balloon that they unloaded on and couldn't even hit.
Denniss7420 1 year ago
@Denniss7420 The aliens decide the time isn't right to communicate, so they communicate anyway but in code? If the time wasn't right, why communicate at all?
How is the 1942 LA UFO situation relevant to this issue under discussion?
raggedmoorlander 1 year ago
@raggedmoorlander That is a fair point, but on the other hand, imagine this story is true and you are one of these extra-terrestrials. What do you think would be more likely to be believed by the logical minded of our species: a message in the form of tecnological communication which can then apparently be translated and verified, or just having some guy say he heard a voice in his head that told him we were being monitored by aliens and then give the co-ordinates to a mythical island that...
RizzDizzify 9 months ago
@RizzDizzify Which do I think would be more likely to be believed by intelligent homo sapiens? Neither. Absolutely neither! I suppose, if the extraterrestrials communicated the solution to Fermi's Last Theorum (which no one had THEN come up with) it would at least make us all sit up. I'm sure intelligent ETs would think up something even much better than that, if 'believing humans' were what they were after. The code is arbitrary and the message incomplete anyway
raggedmoorlander 9 months ago
@raggedmoorlander Again imagine you are one of them, you might have an ethical approach to contact. If this is the case I doubt you would gift someone the secret to a major scientific or technological leap just for the sake of performing a party trick or to prove that you are real. Why do you assume they could care less if you believe they are real or not? I know if it was me I might think doing that was completely unethical and probably detrimental to their development as a species. It's...
RizzDizzify 9 months ago
@RizzDizzify Well you CAN't imagine what it is like to be an alien, any more than you can imagine what it is like to be a bat (or vice versa). I agree: why should we assume they want to form party tricks? But you said that a coded message could be explained by the aliens wanting to be 'believed by the logical-minded of our species'. I merely pointed out that IF being believed was their aim, there are better ways going about it than just communicating in code.
raggedmoorlander 9 months ago
@raggedmoorlander Well that is not completely true IMO. There is quite some difference between being a bat or a lion, animals which are concerned with instinctual things and live how nature intended, and being an intelligent species which is concerned with advancement and think and do things outside of their mere predetermined nature. An alien species may well think differently and come to conclusions in a different way because as you say their expereince and understanding of life might be...
RizzDizzify 9 months ago
@RizzDizzify Your original point was that aliens might have communicated in code because they wanted to be believed by 'the logical-minded of our species'. I pointed out that there were many ways I could think of (and surely many ways that haven't occurred to me) that would be vastly more effective. A measure of its effectivness is that nobody believes this code is ET outside ufology and not many within ufology do. Aliens are unlikely to resemble stupid humans.
raggedmoorlander 8 months ago
@raggedmoorlander Although I appreciate (and to a certain extent, share) your skepticism, let's not forget some basics. If you were to write a message in a 'near-universal' language, you'd try to break things down as simply as possible. And perhaps the binary message contained some sort of primer that would enable the 'programmer' to establish some sort of syntax with which to create a message. The english words would then simply be the closest 'interpretation' of the message in english.
lordmolotov 1 year ago
@lordmolotov What 'near-universal language' do you have in mind? Are you talking about binary code? This COULD be used as a language. Any binary code (one-zero, white-black etc) can form the basis of a language. But it is not a language if it merely ENCODES English, Spanish, German, Chinese...or alien.
raggedmoorlander 1 year ago
@raggedmoorlander Being a fan of Carl Sagan, and holding Contact as one of my favorite movies about ETs, I share his idea that mathematics would be the closest thing to a universal language, based on what we know as of today. I'm not sure if this factored in to the decoding of the message referenced in the video, but it would be logical.
lordmolotov 1 year ago
@lordmolotov I'm a bit of a Carl Sagan fan myself. The question of whether mathematics is a construct of consciousness or whether it is out there in the external world has puzzled philosophers. Kant thought the former. If he's right, aliens might not even have mathematics. In any case surely it is only the arbitrary symbols we give to mathematical entities that constitute a language. Germans, English, Greek etc can 'speak' this language only because of these shared symbols.
raggedmoorlander 1 year ago
@raggedmoorlander He's just grouping the bits into ASCII. Not hard for aliens to replicate, if they wanted to communicate. Question is how did that air force officer get it, and if he's a hoaxter or for real. It's interesting that they ended up with coordinates just off England. Why don't they go and investigate. I wonder what format they used to encode the coordinates. If it's long/lat, then it implies the aliens know about our cultural bias of using Greenwich as the Prime Meridian.
Nomoreidsleft 11 months ago
@raggedmoorlander Now I'm not saying i believe in what this video is portaying, It could easily be fake. But regarding your comment, if you were to watch the entire show, the show is about how some peoples believe aliens have been guiding us throughout history to make the correct choices. Now if that were so, then you could asume that they would know english from watching our languages form and change. So perhaps if this is true, they were speaking to us in our language so we'd understand.
Emlieexx 11 months ago
@Emlieexx Yes, but if they could implant things in people's minds, why would they not directly plant the message itself - in English?
raggedmoorlander 11 months ago
@raggedmoorlander
Most clever comment on this subject, thanks =)
IceFritzLanger 10 months ago
@IceFritzLanger
Also, Sagan didn't send A B or C. There were no letters. What if they were speaking Chinese ? or ancient greek.
Language is an obstacle, if we should receive messages from outer space, they should be like the one we have send in 1974.
Have a nice day =)
IceFritzLanger 10 months ago
@raggedmoorlander Who's to say "aliens" speak in another language? Perhaps they are a heightened human race who have mastered many things that we have yet to... No-one knows so no-one can really say anything on what they may look like, sound like or what languages they can speak...
Hunter1902 10 months ago
@Hunter1902 Yes, absolutely! Even if they had a language, we could never understand it, nor could there be any possibility of translation, because they would 'cut up' the world differently to us - and it would be a different world to cut up anyway, as different to our 'world' as the seagull world, jelly fish world, spider world is. The question, 'what is it like to be a lion?' is impossible to answer, a fortiori 'what is it like to be this or that alien?'.
raggedmoorlander 10 months ago
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hakujinn009 7 months ago
@raggedmoorlander yeah, because a super advanced civilization totally couldnt eaves drop in on us and figure out our language, but we can figure out a bunch of egyptian birds and squiggles. google a binary translator and punch that stuff in, theres a message about "exploration of humanity"
good job, you look like a pro
hakujinn009 7 months ago
@raggedmoorlander If you watched this whole documentary (i think it's like 20+ hours I'm not finished watching them) they compair E.T. with old myths and stories, in their perspective of that time they described them as 'angels/gods'. For example (from the bible), God (E.T.) made us to their own image. So it wouldnt be very weird if they speak our languages, and mathematic is a universal language.
Sm0k4bl3 5 months ago
@Sm0k4bl3 My argument here isn't against the possibility of aliens speaking English (that's a separate issue); it's against this 'code' thing. If an anthropologist visited a remote tribe in some forgotten corner of the globe, he might first learn the language and communicate in it to members of that tribe. But what would be the point of translating an Enlish sentence (e.g. 'I am an anthropologist and I would like to study you') into the tribal language and then into binary code?
raggedmoorlander 5 months ago
@raggedmoorlander I see your point, could it be they did this deliberatly, so no one could understand it, until they implemented a binary code understanding into our knowledge to know what they actually mean?
Sm0k4bl3 5 months ago
@raggedmoorlander maybe the aliens evolved english on they're own XD?
nycpd75 4 months ago
@nycpd75 I don't know what you mean. How can any alien civilisation just evolve a terrestrial language?
raggedmoorlander 3 months ago
@raggedmoorlander i have no fucking idea too , but if they're are smarter than us so if then came on a space ship maybe they first just watched and learned our languages ? :P
nycpd75 3 months ago
@nycpd75 Ah, you mean they could have LEARNT our language. You said 'evolved'.
raggedmoorlander 3 months ago
@raggedmoorlander aye
nycpd75 3 months ago
@raggedmoorlander Maybe Aliens thought us how to speak? :D
PersonifiedMusic 1 month ago
@PersonifiedMusic Even if they did, it still wouldn't make sense for them to send thought messages in binary code and not English. Anyway, we know how the English language evolved - we've painstakingly traced it back to the Indo-European language. Look, this binary code can be make to mean anything. It can be made to mean, 'bonjour, nous sommes d'une planete tres lointaine' or to mean, 'hola, es trampa!' or anything.
raggedmoorlander 1 month ago
@raggedmoorlander Maybe so. Maybe the aliens are trying to mess with our minds!!!!!!
PersonifiedMusic 1 month ago
@PersonifiedMusic Or maybe these are just random zeros and ones and not any kind of code at all. Maybe it doesn't mean anything at all.
What does 100101101001001101 mean? Well, I just wrote down random zeros and ones. But anyone could come along and say it means HELLO...because 1001 means H; 0110 means E; 100 means L; 1101 means O
Of course, the more digits there are, the more imperfect any contrived message - which is exactly the case here (missing words, awkward phrasing etc.)
raggedmoorlander 4 weeks ago
The coordinates are for a ice age island that has since been sunk by rising waters some think was called Hy Brasil in myth. Its tempting to think this island that did n fact exist during the last ice age may have been colonized by advanced humans.
pax256 1 year ago
AMAZING POST
PAIRANORMALGUYSINC 1 year ago
Very, very interesting... indeed!
TONYLOVESU 1 year ago
Nice. Anybody checked out the cordinates?
GigglinMarley 1 year ago
@GigglinMarley did you watch the video and see where they said the coordinates are?
ChilloutSessionZ 1 year ago
@GigglinMarley ....see the earthfiles website but coordnates appear to be same area in rendelsham
SteevAtomic 1 year ago
Very interesting indeed :)
DaveandNic4eva 1 year ago