Disturbed by this proclamation, as Paul consistently refers to to the oracles,living oracles as a standard for living. It is not a contradiction to look to the Torah for righteous guidance for living and walking in restored relationship with our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
I say Yes every Laws in the Torah should be kept even the animal sacrifices if its possible but how can anyone do that right now when you can only offer that where He keep His name abide wc is in Jerusalem only and can we go and offer it ourselves? i dont think so,for there are no sons of Aaron anywhere nor any Levites alive and living right now to offer it for us.So i believe its just suspended for the time being.
@meteormikael Suspended? The scriptures says differently in Hebrews 7:1111 Now if perfection was through the Levitical priesthood (for on the basis of it the people received the Law), what further need was there for another priest to arise according to the order of Melchizedek, and not be designated according to the order of Aaron? 12 For when the priesthood is changed, of necessity there takes place a change of law also. The Priesthood was changed, and so the Law changed also.
@meteormikael Jesus is the everlasting Priest after the order of Melchizedek, the priesthood is done away with forever not temporarily. God also in ad 70 destroyed Herods temple as a sign of judgement and as a sign of the end of the 1ST Covenant. You can't keep all of Torah without the temple. God took away your ability to keep it all.
how many times do the scriptures tell us then what shall we do nullify the law God forbid for I would not have known what coveting was accept the law said do not covet. the scriptures are very clear that no one will be saved by their own efforts. Salvation is the gift of God thru Yeshua to all who beleive but what does that mean. read James
Most law keepers dont believe the law can save you but Jesus Christ alone. With that in agreement we are talking solely about how our walk with Christ should look AFTER salvation. The question that needs to be answered is whose rules should we follow to live a moral life pleasing to God. If you were a thief before Christ and you are convicted to stop......isn't that putting your self under the law. If you try to obey one you must obey all. You said it yourself. So to follow your logic you must
@chadgleaves The moral laws of God (do not kill, steal, covet, commit adultery, etc) are still binding for us today because they are all repeated in the New Testament letters. When we speak about the Torah, we are speaking about everything-- animal sacrifices, feasts, sabbath keeping, etc. There are people who say that we MUST keep all of those things, and failure to keep them proves that we are in wilfull disobedience. Btw, these people have no response when asked about animal sacrifices.
@ProclaimHisWord Wasn't animal sacrifice the school master for what Jesus was going to do for the people? Thus Jesus' crucifixion was the fulfillment for the law of animal sacrifice. Hence why upon his death the curtain in the temple was torn. Faith and Devotion ultimately leads to works. If we love him we keep his commandments. Be blessed
@YaHuWaHservant read LEVITICUS Chapters 1-23 you will see that with every feast day that there must be offerings of fire that had to be preformed by the Levitical Priesthood. It's no longer possible to even keep feast days without the sons of Aaron.
@ProclaimHisWord - I am friends with several messianic Jews. They do have a response to animal sacrifices. 1- Jesus took care of the atonement sacrifice. 2. There are OTHER sacrifices that do not deal with sin that are still valid today. 3. To sacrifice anywhere but the temple would be the same as sacrificing to a demon god. 4. Sacrifices do not determine salvation but belief in Christ - Salvation has always been the same in Old and New testament - Faith saves us.
Most law keepers dont believe the law can save you but Jesus Christ alone. With that in agreement we are talking solely about how our walk with Christ should look AFTER salvation. The question that needs to be answered is whose rules should we follow to live a moral life pleasing to God. If you were a thief before Christ and you are convicted to stop......isn't that putting your self under the law. If you try to obey one you must obey all. You said it yourself. So to follow your logic you must
@chadgleaves that's not placing your self under the law..The real question is what has God called His people to do and the answer is clear 1st John 3:23 This is His commandment, that we [l]believe in the name of His Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, just as He commanded us. 24 The one who keeps His commandments abides in Him, and He in him. We know by this that He abides in us, by the Spirit whom He has given us. the one scripture Torah Keepers never use in arguments.
We probably aren't saved by believing in Jesus and keeping the Torah?? That may be the scariest thing I've heard anyone say. Ever! Paul kept Torah and the Sabbath! Your reading Paul's writing backwards. Again the law does NOT justify us! Only the messiach does! And those who love him KEEP HIS LAWS. Any thing else is lawlessness. In fact instead of arguing this on YouTube, anyone doubting this must rightly divide the word not someone's opinion. Start with defining lawlessness in scripture.
I'm very saddened that videos like this detour new believers from the law. It is not keeping the paw that saves you! This is true. BUT anyone who understands the word of the Massiach who saved us, knows that the Torah is our guideline for life not for salvation. All fall short of the glory of God and must have The Lamb to cover our sins. But you are misquoting Paul terribly. You preach continued repentance and not living loosely. But deny the law we were given. Please stop leading people away.
@ProclaimHisWord I urge you to read Matthew 5:17-20. What you are teaching is of Satan since he is against the standard of righteousness that the Almighty Creator established. Verses such as Leviticus 23:14, 21, 31 and 41 state that the command shall be observed forever. A works salvation? What about willful transgression of the Almighty Creator's standard of righteousness through hostile ignorance?
@davegooley 1) What you are advocating is going back under the Mosaic Law, and for that, you are JUDAIZER under the condemnation of Galatians 1:8-9.
2) Leviticus 23:14, 21, 31 and 41 & Matthew 5:17-20 were written TO JEWS who WERE STILL UNDER THE MOSAIC LAW, those passages do not apply to christians in the church age.
3) Go read 2 Timothy 2:15-- especially the part about RIGHTLY DIVIDING the Word of truth.
4) Spend less time on your xBox 360 and more time studying the Word of God.
@ProclaimHisWord what I find amazing is the hypocrisy you just displayed in your reply. No fruit of the Spirit and hostile against the Scriptures. You apparently need to follow the second half of 4) yourself since you don't understand the words of Messiah. Ask yourself this. If Torah was done away with, what standard of righteousness are you following? If you say the Messiah, you are a liar because of what the Messiah stated in Matthew 5:17-20.
@davegooley "No fruit of the Spirit and hostile against the Scriptures".
I expect a judaizer who has been called to the carpet to accuse one of lacking the fruit of the Spirit. Make no mistake-- i will call you for what you are: a modern-day judaizer who is preaching another gospel. Again, you are under the condemnation of Galatians 1:8-9.
@ProclaimHisWord furthermore, it is you who are following "another gospel" since Deuteronomy 4:2 and 12:32 state that you shall not add to nor diminish any command in the Torah. What did you repent from if you did so? Repentance is turning away from the ways of the world, and the world is against the charge of the Almighty Creator, which contains all of His commands, laws and teachings. You are still part of the world and not a true believer by your own declaration and ignorance.
@ProclaimHisWord you seem to confuse the Torah with the Pharisees' Talmud, which is also a transgression of Deuteronomy 4:2; 12:32. Even the Messiah rebuked them because of their traditions. Did you forget about Ephesians 2:10, or does this contradict your personal theology? I would have sent this by private message, but you have friend lock enabled like every other self-declared expert of the Bible that hides behind their own theology and can't handle being called on ignorance of the Bible.
@davegooley Why would you send your message privately? i answered you publicly so that is how i expect a response. Now, i am confusing nothing! you are ignorant of the Scriptures and have no clue how to rightly divide God's Word. You and all the other Law keepers prance around telling people that they need to keep Torah when you know full well that you fail miserably at it. Again, if the jews could not keep it, then why do you think that you can? Break one, you break them all, James 2:10.
@ProclaimHisWord exactly, you have broken the entire Torah with your claim that it has been done away with. Judaizer? Typical insult from a heathen who falsely believes he is of the Almighty Creator when you really follow a heathen's religion. The Jews abandoned the Torah because they rejected the Almighty Creator, just as you have. If you think you repented from sin, you deceive yourself. You can never be righteous without living according to the standard of righteousness, the Torah.
@ProclaimHisWord anyone can keep the Torah if they don't use the excuse that it can't be kept. The Messiah observed it because it is not hard to keep. Abraham observed it and he started as a heathen. Ruth repented and observed Torah. Stop deceiving yourself and change your username. You are unworthy to have ProclaimHisWord since you proclaim heresy. When you are judged, you will be judged by the Torah, not the heretical theology you adhere to.
@ProclaimHisWord in closing, go repent and learn what it means to be a genuine and true believer. You can't be righteous by piggy backing off the work of the Messiah. It is no different than working for an employer. If you refuse to do the work, you are terminated. If you refuse to do works of righteousness, you are a slothful servant like the servant who hid the one talent given to him. Examine the Scriptures instead of pretending to know them, deceiving yourself in the process.
@davegooley You have just exposed yourself as a deceived, self-righteous, works-righteous HERETIC! Your bankrupt, works centered theology is no different than the one practiced by Roman Cathoic Church, and you will crack hell wide open, IF you do not repent of your hell doomed faith/works "gospel" and put your faith in Christ ALONE for your salvation. Now, go and study these verses: Acts 13:39, Romans 3:21-28, 4:5, 5:1, 10:4, Galatians 2:16, 3:6, 10-14, 21-24, Ephesians 2:8-9 & 21.
Brother, I must warned you not to take the Mark-of-the-Beast. Babylon (Christiandom) you need to come of of her if you truely are a servant of Christ. Christiandom has poisoned all nations with the doctrines of Rome. The 144,000 saints which follow the Lamb have none of Romes error in theirs mouth, Rev:14,4 and they keep Gods commandments and the also have the faith of Jesus. Rev:14,12. You are under the very deception Christ warned of. Come out! Sunday worship is what you hold on to.
The Law says to not cheat in business, to not lie, to believe in Yahuwah, to believe in the Messiah, and to be filled with the Spirit of God. The Law says to help the orphans, the widows, the sojourners, and the Levites. The Law says to pray, praise, worship, fast, repent, water baptize, and to have revival gatherings (holy convocations). The Law says to love God with all your being, to love your neighbors, and to love your enemies. The Law says to rejoice before Yah, to not commit adultery, etc
I know and understand. I have been affiliated with Messianic Christians and have learned a lot about the scripture, but what is the point of keeping the Mosaic Law if no flesh is justified by it. The Just shall live by faith. Thank you Jesus.
(Rom 3:31) Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law seems to cancel Rom 3:28 so I am still confused. I also wonder what you think the difference is between salvation and inheriting the kingdom? I believe in John 3:15 and am confused by (1 Cor 6:9) Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
Wow , this is awsome ! So much debate , it only confirms what our father in the heavens tells us , " unless you look for me with everything in your core you will not find me" , so many debates, so much to study, what's a nazarite? Who is Joshua The annointed, does torah=teaching?
I believe the messiah was speaking to the extreame legalists in the jewish faith who were so focused on the law they lost the deeper greater spiritual purose behind it. Like when he observed the sabbath until someone was in need. The extreame legalist would most likely hesitate to help another out of fear of breaking the sabbath. THAT was the mindframe that was being combated at that time
What it comes down to is what do you believe is the purpose of the law, I have never in my life heard anyone of any faith say that the law will save you. You yourself said it, the law lets you know what is sinful and the messiah pleads on our behalf to atone for those sins. What is he going to atone for if there is no law. The messiah specifically said that he is NOT here to abolish the law but to fulfill them. Think about it.
@ncbookz the works based religion is the end day lie that the whole world is following, via ranks levels grades credit everything in the devils system is a works based system,, all lies
In addition, there is a lot of evidence to suggest that Acts was a fictitious work written many years after even Paul taught. There are too many contradictions between the book of Acts and Paul's own epistles. The Jerusalem council, which James the Just and others of Yeshuah's followers were suggested to attend, may not have actually happened. But that is definitely speculation. What is not speculation is what James and Simeon thought of Paul of Tarsus and wrote about him.
Galatians is a piece of anti-semitic rhetoric. Jews are people. God, Yaweh, Hashem, whatever you consider Him, whatever way He exists, I'm sure would not advocate slandering and verbally abusing an entire people. I wouldn't expect you to be familiar with the Apocrypha, but even in your NT, Matthew records Jesus as saying, even though the writer did not exist around the teachings of Yeshua, that he had not come to do away with Torah. Jesus was Jewish man. Get it straight.
Roms 10:4 - Correct! The law should point us directly to Christ and his righteousness
Gal 2:16 - Correct! Man is not justified by "works of the law"
Gal 3:11-12 - Correct! Not justified by law, the just will live by his faith. The law is not the thing we put our faith in for salvation, rather we live by them.
Gal 3:24 - Correct! We are no longer under compulsory obligation to fulfill God's law, but freely, because we are saved, in love and faith
Didn't Jesus follow the Torah? Didnt the 12 follow the Torah? If we take away the Torah, where do we get our laws from? The new testament leaves out so many commandments found in the new testament. It requires both faith and the LAW. Jesus was the LAW and we are to follow HIM
The Law was just a curse to the old testimate people right? Isn't there in the BIBLE that said we are free from the CURSE, of the law??? Please let me know. Some laws really hurt. :-(. Please give me thos verses or verse that might say that. GOD bless you Brother. Good ministering video.
Do you consider all other denomination of christianity "Satanic" ? you shouldn't judge people on their belief. The strenght of your honesty and your way of being sure of yourself is refreshing, but the thing is that if the bible was precise enough to be interpreted in only one way, only one denomination of christianity would exist.
UNIVERSAL SALVATION was for me a HERESY, people pleasing idea until I saw passages like this.
Romans 5;19 "for as through the disobedience of the one man,THE MANY were constituted sinners: so also through the obedience of the one, shall THE MANY be constituted righteous."
Do you believe it? Hell is NOT the final plan of God. EVERYONE WILL BE SAVED THROUGH JESUS, YES EVERYONE.
i have never seen a christian who said its necessary to keep the torah for salvation. the chrisitans i see choose to because they like to have a way to order their families. so many christians choosing to practice secular pagan practices,like shaving the face, using interest, christmas trees. the early christians kept the torah in order to have a way of life. only once people started trying to further conversion they stopped talking about the law.
@lizzieworld13 the torah has scientific benefits. Everyone talks about WWJD? and wanting to be like Jesus, but to live as he lived would be living a curse? Some have to be able to separate Paul's own opinion from Gods actual words. God told people to bathe after intercourse, child birth, menustration. circucision prevents the spread of disease. and the dietary laws prevent major digestive problems and unknown allergies. you dont have to do this for salvation. but when early christian europe had
@lizzieworld13 no law what were they doing. early european christians with no law were throwing their urine and feces and the streets and bathing 1x a year. eating animals that ate dead bodies and feces. no standard of modesty. Jesus did not die so people could drop the law and practice still their pagan ways.
6 people dislike the truth of God's word, the blood of Jesus Christ, the lost, the saved, the Holy Spirit. EXCELLENT as always brother, you always take a stand for the truth, and I believe more souls than you know will be in Heaven on account of your faithfulness to our Lord Jesus Christ in proclaiming the gospel that saves- to have faith as a child in Him. What a loving God He is!
If Yeshua did away with his own commandments, would he not be contradicting himself? What about Matthnew 5:17 and 5:18? Why was the Torah written? So that we could just say: "Oh Jesus did away the the law with his death so we don't have to worry about all that works stuff" - Anybody who says that such as the person in front of the video camera above is saying that G-d is double minded and says that we can live under grace only with no understanding of what grace actually is. This is a shame.
Don't be taken in by the "Grace" with no understanding Gospel, it bastardises the Gospel and attacks the integrity of Yahweh. No flesh is justified by the works of the law, correct. Bear in mind that Yeshua said that if you love me you will keep my commandments...are Yeshua and Yawheh not one in the same? What commandments is he referring to? Faith without works is dead and void of any love towards G-d. Be careful of the "Grace only" doctrine - it leads to a disobedient and dangerous road.
I cannot think of anything that will destroy the Gospel faster than what this man is attempting to disseminate. He is referring to legalism, keeping laws in order to attain or sustain salvation. Yeshua did not do away with the law, if he did, why did Paul, John and the rest of the believers still worship on the Sabbath and keep the commandments. Do some study, Yeshua spoke out against legalism, the Talmud and similar man made laws but never contradicted the perfect law of G-d.
All Calvinists want to do is argue because they do not live in the spiritual plain. Calvinism is pseudo-Christianity invented by a corrupt man. John Calvin, was actually Jean Cauin from Noyons, France, and educated in a secret society college called College du Montagu. The same place where Ignatius Loyola, the "Catholic" founder of the Society of Jesuits, was educated. When in Switzerland, Calvin was known as Cohen. This name relates to the 'priest' and goes back to the Egyptian mystery schools.
How can anyone seriously use Old Testament Scriptures to invalidate New Testament teaching? The OT Scriptures were for those living under the law and not for those who were saved under grace.
The works spoken of in James were speaking of corresponding actions (James 2:14-17), not the works of the mosaic law. The law (a shadow) was to lead us the Jesus (the reality).
I noticed one thing that wasnt mentioned. That people are going as far as completly denying Paul the Apostle to have an excuse not to listen to his apistles. CRAZY!
Finally! A good video on Works based salvation! Jesus died for nothing once you work for your salvation. I cant believe people fail for this seduction of Torah. Its Modern Day Jewdiazers! Wake up Folks!
This is nothing new.There are atheist channels with hatred for Christians.
PastorDowell is one of the biggest on YouTube.His followers are many more than that bearded South African.I have not heard anything about his channel.
Yes!! Those who are not born again are under the Law (Old Cov-Torah).Those who are born again are under Grace (New Cov Gospel). NC conditions are "NOT LIKE" the OC (Jer 31:31-34) with its covenant signs of sabbath and circumcision. NC signs are Lords Supper and Baptism. The righteousness of higher eternal law of God is worked in the heart by the Spirit and out in the life by fruits of spirit. OC signs fulfilled by Christ's Rest from new creation.work and circumcision of the heart.
Nice video. You presented this Biblical topic very well. I've also noticed legalism teaching is on the increase. Legalism was apparent in the early Church, which forced Paul to deal with it in his epistles, it has continuously made recurrences throughout the Churches history (Catholic Church is a good example). Why one would purposely choose to miss Jesus’ covenant of imputed grace is beyond me.
PHW, please check out amightywind prophecies as well. It talks about the imposter Jesus, and in the days of the Antichrist when the fake Jesus reigns, you will only be protected by the Almighty's Hand by calling upon His true Sacred Name, YAHUSHUA or YAHSHUA.
You will see these prophecies are of God and it's what started opening my eyes.
PHW, I have always loved your videos, however I am going to have to disagree with you on this. I am not a legalist, but I believe we should try to embrace the Jewishness of Messiah to the best of our degree as YAHUSHUA did. We have inherited lies (Jeremiah 16:19) more specifically, Babylonian sun god worship. That being said, I believe in observing what we can- including feasts, Sabbath, etc. Check out Michael Rood, he has great teachings on this.
this hurts me. it really does...and reading the comments back and forth...the venom hurts me. the Messiah saved me from death (spiritually & physically), & He has been drawing me closer to Him day by day. He sealed me for salvation from the beginning, & nothing i do can earn me His most amazing gift of Life that He has already given me. but i love Him...i really do. and now i am being called unsaved because He is transforming me slowly into the image of my perfectly Torah-abiding King...
Thank you guys for putting out this video, I appreciate very much......many are being deceived and following false teachings...not knowing they are being damned and going to hell with the false prophet !!
If u want to c god look in the mirror. Hell is set in place as a scare tactic. Just like any other man writen book. So u can call yourself whatever u want and think that magical things r happening. your just tricking yourself. If somebody responds to this come correct. Its just like me calling myself superman and jumping off a ladder and believe that i am flying. THe bible is for children and mainly alagory. A story,poem,ect. Peace,Shalom,Hotep,and I.S.L.A.M
You guys should not be battling each other with these books u no nothing about. Most of u r tacking the bible for face value. This makes me sick. Where in the bible does it say christ was a christain? He was a jew right. For example,he feed many people with 2 fish and 5 loafs of bread. Most of u would say,WOW!!! Its not speaking of eating. Its talking about feeding the people mentaly with the Circle 7. If u studyed u would know that.
I think you are telling it like Christ Himself would!~ We are grafted as His beloved. He is the Vine, and we His branches as we bear the Fruit of the Spirit of the Living God. Eph. 2:11-16.
Your advice to those who encounter individuals involved with a works gospel was perfect. Ask 'em, point blank, if they're saved. Having encountered a few such individuals I'm convinced they have no clear revelation of God's saving power through Jesus Christ alone. It might be offensive for them to hear the simple Gospel of faith alone, in Jesus Christ alone. But if done in the here-in-now, the only thing that will be lost is pride wrought by futile efforts to gain God's favor.
Great message Mark! Unfortunately, you will have oppositions just as the disciples did with other so called christians. People always forget that salvation is a free gift and the works it speaks of is not physical duty but a self transformation as in Romans 12:2. many misunderstand scripture and won't listen to correction. All you have to do is continue with your videos bro and know that the message you and others preach is well accepted based on scriptural knowledge. Many don't have that.
@ProclaimHisWord did you or did you not in the video say that we are not to keep God's law now? that is what I heard you say, and that is antinomianism.
@rusda2 We are not to put our faith in the Lord Jesus AND keep the Law in order to be justified before God-- the context of what i said in the video should be clear as the noonday sun. We are justified by Faith ALONE in Christ, APART from any law keeping. It is mindboggling to hear anyone accuse me of teaching antinomianism when i have dozens of videos exhorting believers to live holy and righteous lives before our Lord.
@ProclaimHisWord friend, I never said keeping the law justifies us...it does not. we keep Gods law because we LOVE Him NOT to be saved. do u think because law does not justify that it has no value & should not be kept?. are u cherry picking those things u do not want to obey & thus throw out the entire law to get rid of what offends u?
How can they live holy righteous lives if they are not to keep Gods law? that is antinomianism.
@rusda2 Where did i lose you? This video is addressed to those heretics out there who say that we ARE justified by our faith in Christ AND by the keeping of the Law.
"are u cherry picking those things u do not want to obey & thus throw out the entire law to get rid of what offends u?"
Let's see: do you keep the Ceremonial laws outlined in the Torah? what about the Social / Judicial laws? my guess is that you don't. Here are the Commandments that we are to keep-- Mark 12:30-31.
@ProclaimHisWord What ceremonial laws are you speaking of? do you mean the Sabbath? which is NOT a ceremonial law, but one of the ten commandments? most christians mistakenly or purposely lump the 4th commandment in with ceremonial laws.
I dont keep feast days or sacrifice animals.
as for the commandments we are to keep, u seem to be missing what most do...Jesus is the one who gave the ten commandments at sinai, Jesus does NOT change, thus His 10 commandment law does not change.
@rusda2 Gross hypocrite!!! You accuse me of "cherry picking those things u do not want to obey & thus throw out the entire law to get rid of what offends u?", and now you admit to the parts of the Law that you WILFULLY CHOOSE NOT TO OBEY-- feast days and animal sacrifices-- so you really don't keep the Law do you? after all, those two things go the the heart and soul of the Mosaic Law. You Law keepers bellyache about us who do not keep Torah, while you are breaking it yourselves-- HYPOCRITE!!
@ProclaimHisWord are u a Christian? just wondering. u seem very angry.
u need to go back & READ what u quoted of my comments...I did NOT accuse u...I ASKED u a QUESTION.
how about a Christian apology?
I choose not to obey what God does not require. feasts/sacrifices were fulfilled in Christ. I said nothing about u or anyone else keeping the torah...any more false accusations for me?
u know, I see in the comments that I am not the only one u attacked like this. whats up with u man? u ok?
L.O.L.i gave you evidences of the bible that having faith is not all,but you nice christian has to insult me,what do you think between us will go to hell?you the liar?or me quoting the scripture to save you???please dunnot deceive those who dunnot read their bibles to understand that it is necessary to keep the commandments of God to find salvation.bye bye,nice christian
@s7pgo "L.O.L.i gave you evidences of the bible that having faith is not all"
Like a judaizing heretic, you twisted the Words of Scripture to prove your damnable heresy!
"please dunnot deceive those who dunnot read their bibles to understand that it is necessary to keep the commandments of God to find salvation"
You are woefully ignorant of Scripture and you are the one here who is deceived and a rank liar! Your father is the devil and i will treat you with the same respect as i would satan.
@ProclaimHisWord It seems everyone that disagrees with you is "woefully gnorant". I'm starting to see the charachter flaw Pride is not becoming. Thats such a shame. Well, I do know that Yahweh's Torah is eternal,and unchangeable and as Isaiah the prophet states,the Torah will go forth out of Zion in the Millenium. Also,please read the last 8 chapters of Ezekiel about the millennial temple. Whatt do we do with that pal? Just erase it?
@DeliverTheWord1 "It seems everyone that disagrees with you is "woefully gnorant"".
No! those who wilfully twist the Scriptures out of their right contexts to prove their unbiblical heresies are ignorant-- i will not apologize for that. A text, out of context, is a pretext.
"as Isaiah the prophet states,the Torah will go forth out of Zion in the Millenium".
Of Course, Messiah will be ruling and reigning on this earth then-- the Law cannot be separated from the Lawgiver.
@ProclaimHisWord Well, you just answered me though partially. The Torah is not "dead" as it will continue even onto the millenium. Then how can you say it's dead? Once again I ask the question:What does one do with the hundreds of statement by Yahweh in His Torah that the torah is Eternal and unchangeable?? Do we mark over with those passages with a blackmarker? Either Hashem said what He meant or He didn't. Which is it? I still dpn't see an expiration date on the Torah.
@DeliverTheWord1 "Once again I ask the question:What does one do with the hundreds of statement by Yahweh in His Torah that the torah is Eternal and unchangeable?? Do we mark over with those passages with a blackmarker?"
Did you really watch the video? have you read any of the other comments that i have posted? ALL of your questions have been answered in the video or in the comments-- please read them or go back and watch the video.
And your incredible supernatural hatred of the Jew comes shining through. Your reply to another poster here callimg him a "judaizing heretic" is more than enough evidence. Why such jew hatred pal? Were still here regardless of gentule persecution so were not going away. You should really dig yourself dude and flush out that putrid cancer of anti-semitism in your deepest dark soul. You say you love Jesus but yet you name jews heretics? Thats incredible and yet tragic
@DeliverTheWord1 You have just shown your ABSOLUTE ignorance of what i believe! I have a bunch of videos supporting the jews AND their eternal right to the land of Israel-- it is also a part of my statement of faith posted on my homepage-- go and watch them and go and read my statement of faith. Also, i have had to correct and dis-associate myself from many anti-semites here on YT and many people have unsubscribed from my channel because of my support of Israel and the jews-- you are in error.
@ProclaimHisWord LOL You support them? Yet at the same time you want them to eat pig,keep their foreskins and act like gentiles when hashem commands them to keep His precepts for an ETERNITY. Whayt kind of shitty gentile logic is that. You ahve absolutely no concept of Jews or our relationship with Hashem and you come on all high all high and mighty. Thats worse than hamas,or Hezbollah. Their my enemies yet you claiming to love Israel stab them inthe back? Some support.
@DeliverTheWord1 It is very clear to me that you have no concept of what it means to be saved-- you know not the gospel and you are still bound up under the Law, which, if you continue in that direction, will damn you to the Lake of Fire. My prayer is that the Lord Jesus would open your eyes to the truth and reveal to you your lost condition. Paul condemned the Galatians for their damnable heresy, and i will do the same with you. May God have mercy on your hell doomed soul.
Oh yes your love for the Jew just comes shining through pal. What blows mymind is how much fervor you have for de-judaizing them. I bet it would thrill your heart to see jews dining on Pig and having their foreskins put back on. Thisa is one jew who was born a jew and will die a jew. Yeshua is my saviour but I will never be a gentile. Never and you cannot force my people even at gunpoint to be gentiles and live as gentiles. We will never compromise our G-d's commands. Good luck dejudaizing.
@DeliverTheWord1 Pt 2: "You say you love Jesus but yet you name jews heretics?"
Have you ever read Matthew 23? Jesus called the religious leaders more than heretics--just a sample: hypocrites, fools, blind guides, serpents, brood of vipers, whitewashed tombs, etc. In John 8:44, He called them children of the devil--that's stronger than heretic. ANYONE who perverts the Gospel by teaching faith and keeping of the Law is a heretic-- i will Not apologize for calling out a lying heretic.
@ProclaimHisWord Yes true that the Pharisees were corrupt but does that mean all the jews were? That's Nazi thinking. There are many gentiles in your brood that are just as corruptable and serpents too pal. Don't be a hypocrite. You want to have a pissing contest with me?I also do not apologize for loving my Creatotrr and His Holy word the Torah.. Don't try to fight me pal. You don't even speak or read Hebrew or know Jews yet you put them all in the trash? Filthy Nazi swine.
@DeliverTheWord1 You have an inability to understand clear and simple english. The reference to the religious leaders was a reference to those who were teaching false doctrine and the Lord had very harsh words for them, it was not speaking about all jews-- you are beyond irrational. Second, i am shaking in my boots here-- you are soooo tough that i am scared out of my wits-- oh boy, what am i going to do now? Filthy nazi swine? lol!!! you can do better than that-- i have been called much worse.
@XjmedX Read Romans and 1 John again. Paul makes it clear that we as believers are not to be living in habitually sin, however, he goes on in chapter seven and talks about his struggles with sin-- doing what he didn't want to do and not doing what he wanted to do, 15-25. John is also speaking about people living in habitual sin, but he tells us that when those of us who are saved do sin, we should confess our sins and we will be forgiven by Jesus, our Advocate, 1 Jn 1:9 & 2:1-2. Cont...
@ProclaimHisWord Pt2: Both Paul and John differentiate between those who are truly saved and those who are false converts. True believers will mourn over their sins and will want to be continually be cleansed by our Lord Jesus, not so for the false professors of Christ who wallow in the muck and mire of their filth without any thought whatsoever of being cleansed.
@ProclaimHisWord That's what I said. When we become believers we are under grace but if we continue to sin then we bring ourselves under the law. That is what Paul is talking about. He's saying that believers are no longer under the law because we are obedient. If there is no law then there is no such thing as sin...
Rom 7:8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
As a "Messianic" I have never heard anyone in any of my circles claim we are saved by works. I keep the Sabbath on Saturday by choice and because I believe it is obedience.
I am saved by faith through Christs atoning work. I do things (works) because I am saved.
I never put this burden on anyone else. That is between them and God.
@truthsintheword Brother, as i stated before, this video in in response to many people who i have ran into here and on FaceBook who are teaching faith and keeping of the Law. The two ladies in the video came up against one of those people in the last week, so they are out there. Now, i respect your position, however, that is not the position of some and they would like to put the burden of keeping the Law on others as evidence that we are really His.
if you read revelation chapter:14vers12,you will know that the 10 commandments is our relation with God+ the testimony of Yah.or you can read revelation chapter 12 vers17.please stop lying to other sheep.the blind leads the blinds to hell!!!!dunnot play church here on youtube if you dunnot keep the sabbath,as James stated,when you break a commandment you break them all,it means every week you break them because of your ignorance of knowledge.please kill your pride and accept the truth
@s7pgo You are an ignorant and hellbound judaizing heretic and may God have mercy on your wretched soul if you do not repent of your prideful, satanic and cross denying works righteousness, and REST in the FINISHED work that the Lord Jesus ACCOMPLISHED on Calvary's cross! You are NOT saved if you think that the keeping of God's Commandments will justify you somehow when you stand before Him-- you will be thrown head first into the Lake of Fire! REPENT! and believe the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
Does not Yahweh declare throughtout many passages in Torah and Tanakh that His Torah is unchangeable and Eternal? I can point out so many passages where He Himself declares that. Isn't Yahwehs very words proof enough that His Torah is Eternal? Who changed that? I don't see anywhere in the Gospel where jesus cancels out the torah. Instead I only see Him validating it. I think a lot of these protestant doctrines were magnified by Jew haters.
@fightingforthefaith I am still left with Does the question,why did Yahweh state all through His Torah that His Commands and precepts were eternal and unchangeable? If it were obsolete would not that make our Creator a liar? That's the only question i'm asking. How could the Almighty state something is eternal and then change His mind? Does Paul's writings supercede the Word of the Creator of time,space and matter? How comeJesus Himself did not say this in the Gospels?
@DeliverTheWord1 What do you not understand? ALL of God's Commandments were fulfilled by our Lord Jesus Christ, because He is eternal and therefore will be forever, when we put our faith and trust in Him, His perfect keeping of the Law is imputed to our account, and in that way, they are kept. Please go and read Galatians 4:4-5-- Jesus was born under the Law and came to redeem those who were under the Law so that we might receive the adoption of sons. This is NOT very difficult at all.
@DeliverTheWord1 The words "eternal" and "forever" do not usually mean an infinite, unending period of time in the Bible. See Jude 7, Ex. 21:6, 1Sam. 22, Jonah 2:6 for starters. In this case Torah, synonymous with the Old Covenant, has been superceded by a better covenant based on better promises (Heb. 8:6) which Jesus instituted (Luke 22:20). We are of the covenant of the Spirit and no longer of the covenant of the letter, because the letter kills and the Spirit gives life (2Cor. 3:6).
@fightingforthefaith Do you understand Hebrew? The words Eternal and Forever in Hebrew mean juut that. The Torah being observed has nothing to do with Salvation.Salvation does not come by observing Torah. Torah means instruction in Holiness and living daily in sync with our Creator. Christians teach that the Torah is to be kept by the letter. Judaism does not teach that at all and I dare you to show me where it says in all judaism that we are to keep torah PERFECTLY. Yeshua saved this Jew.
@DeliverTheWord1 No, I don't understand Hebrew but I do understand that when Jonah says that he was in the fish "forever" that it didn't literally mean forever. Torah is a work of the flesh that leads to death while the covenant of the Spirit is a work of the Spirit that leads us to righteousness and life, so yes, this is a salvation issue. You will be able to see these things when you turn to the Lord but as long as you follow Torah a veil will remain over your heart. (2Cor.3:13 and following)
@fightingforthefaith Torah is not a work of the flesh. Thats a lie from the pit. The Torah is the very words of the Creator of the Universe and in the torah are very deep things that are wondrous and even King David stated that G-d's Torah was as sweet as honey. I feel sorry for you that you feel the very utterances of the Almighty have been reduced to just a mere work of the flesh. What a slap in the face of Yahweh to make such a damndable statement. I guess paul is higher than Yahweh huh?
@DeliverTheWord1 No, Paul is certainly not higher than Yahweh. You just don't like what Paul says because he lauds the merits of the New Covenant which Yahweh called for (Jer. 31 and Ezek. 36) and which Jesus instituted. Your problem is with Yahweh and Jesus because they felt that a new covenant was needed but you prefer to be under the yoke of the old instead of the freedom in the new.
@DeliverTheWord1 "I don't see anywhere in the Gospel where jesus cancels out the torah. Instead I only see Him validating it".
Jesus HAD to validate and keep ALL of the Law because if He was to be our Perfect Substitute, He had to fulfill God's Law perfectly-- please read Luke 24:27 and 44-45. Again, Galatians 4:4-5 makes it clear what the Lord Jesus came to do and why the Law HAD to be kept PERFECTLY by Him.
@ProclaimHisWord I agree with you 100% on what you said but how does that cancel keeping the Seventh day set apart unto Yahweh? I guess I still beg for an answer to the question:what does one do with the statements all through the Hebrew scriptures that the Torah is Eternal and unchangeable? Why did the first assembly of apostles still attend synagogue? I can provide all scripture reference if you want. Also, please provide any passage in Torah that calls Torah a burden or dreadful. Thank you
@DeliverTheWord1 "I agree with you 100% on what you said but how does that cancel keeping the Seventh day set apart unto Yahweh?"
Read Romans 14:5-6, Galatians 4:9-10 and Colossians 2:16-17.
"Also, please provide any passage in Torah that calls Torah a burden or dreadful".
I don't remember saying anything about the Torah being dreadful-- those are your words. Jesus said to the jews that they were heavy laden and that His burden was light, Matt 11:28-30-- He was making a contrast to the Law.
@DeliverTheWord1 The Law is the perfect reflection of God's Holy character, and because He is Perfect and demands perfection from us, when we look at the Law, we see our sinfulness and realize that we cannot live up to it, but that it brings death to us-- in that sense, it would be right to say that it is dreadful to us (your words). However, our Lord Jesus came, fulfilled God's requirements 100%, and when we put our faith and trust in Him, His perfect keeping of the Law is imputed to us.
Respond to this video... Also as a Jew I know of no Jewish teaching that states one must keep all the torah to the letter. Thgats a gentile teaching tomake the Torah look burdensome. Why did King David call the Torah "sweet as honey"? All Torah is is a guide to living everyday life before hashem and repentance is the key to salvation and yes,Yeshua kept the Torah perfectly and thats why He is Moshiach but he did not cancel it. Its eternal
Some very good stuff. I was wondering a few things if you are saved by faith alone? What about grace? and what about the blood of Jesus you are saved? And what about baptism now saves you? And what about now your confession saves you? If belief alone saves you why were those who believed in John 8:30 and John 12:42 said not to be part of God? Just a few things to open some dialogue. May the guidance of the good Lord bring us peace and a loving heart in this dialogue. Lord willing in Jesus name.
... cont. I've not met any people who say that one MUST observe the Torah but again, that makes no sense for since much of 'The Law' was required when living w/in the land of Israel. It sounds to me like the Hebrew Roots stuff is going on where there are not many Jews around. EVERY Messianic Jew that I've encountered will tell you that you are saved by grace thru faith - not works & that you don't have to observe ANYthing. I'm in the heart of Jerusalem Number 2 (NYC)! LOL Anyway, good video.
I totally agree w/ this vid. I think (I hope I can say this w/o it being misinterpreted) that the problem comes when dealing w/ our Jewish brethren. Just as we are free to ignore the Sabbath & the feast, they are free TO observe them; as is any Gentile who wishes to. I think that it would help greatly if a definition of what a Judaizer is was given. I believe it would stop much of the hard feelings or feeling that one is dismissed. We are saved by Faith ALONE in Jesus ALONE. However ... (cont).
.. I am free to attend a church or Messianic synagogue. I can go Sunday through Saturday (Rm 14:5). I can eat or abstain from foods. But what I do personally shouldn't be set as a standard for everyone. I haven't met anyone like these people you're referring to. But I truly believe that what I'm saying should be considered also. No Jewish person should be told that they MUST eat pork or live as a Gentile to be considered saved; & many have been told just that. ... cont.
There are Christians who keep parts of the Law but don't believe that saves them, its kind of like what Paul said about being vegetarian for example or eating and not eating certain foods, that person may have a weaker conscience but that doesn't mean they aren't Christians
God did not create us to be good little law keepers. The law was put to expose us to show not our standard but God's standard, which we cannot attain to.....thus we need the savior Jesus Christ, God manifested in the flesh. We need not the law but for Christ to be our life!
You made this assertion and it is up to you to prove it and there is only one way you can do that. You show me two or more verses in the bible that say BELIEVING is a WORK.
If you cannot, then this means you have gone beyond what the bible teaches and are in spiritual error.
Belief is nor works. The power is in the gospel itself Roman 1:16
Jhn 6:28-29 Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God? Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.
1 Thess 1:2-3 We give thanks to God always for you all, making mention of you in our prayers; Remembering without ceasing your work of faith, and labour of love, and patience of hope in our Lord Jesus Christ, in the sight of God and our Father;
(1) Here is my simple answer John 6:29 is telling the people to believe on the WORKS (of God) .Christ is not dead and risen yet this is pre-crucifixion. Learn to read and study in dispensation
It is NOT tel;ling then to believe in their own works. If they were truly understanding their Torah they would have realized Christ was sent by God (God in flesh) to be the sacrifice for sin. They should have been expecting him and understood what was coming, they did NOT.
"remember, without ceasing, your work of faith...in our Lord Jesus Christ"
If the man in the video is talking about the works of following the Mosaic Law, then he needs to clarify that, since the Bible explicitly demands at least one work.
The "work of God" is a work, and therefore, the salvation demands at least one work. That, my friends, is work based salvation, straight up.
(Unless, of course, our good man is in favor of predestination, in which case I withdraw my remarks.)
I think you misunderstand. In light of all scripture, works is not salvation. So when you read 1 Thes 1:2-3 I do not believe it is referring to the work as the LAW. I believe that it is talking about good deeds. The kind that will be judged at Christs bema seat 1 Cor 3:12-15.
I do believe the through FOREKNOWLEDGE that God knows who will and will not be believers. And those that become believers are PREDESTINED to become like Christ.
@AGNOSTICEXTREME Ok I will try this one more time. The people (Hebrews) are looking for works and signs. Christ is CORRECTING THEM.
He is telling them that it is not THEIR WORKS but the works of GOD. It is BELIEF = FAITH that Christ is telling them about. He is telling the JEWS that it wont be their works but the work of the FATHER.
In other words, it wont be their works that saves them but BELIEF.
Christ is CORRECTING those that are asking the question.
On a related note: James 2:24-25 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only. Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent [them] out another way?
I am not a christian or religious, but religion is something personal, and its not open for a debate. If god is real, then god will give you the revelation to believe in it, but you only believe in God with faith, as there is no empirical evidence for gods, so its up to each person to establish what theology they choose to believe in.
@KevZen2000 Biblical christianity is a personal relationship with the God of the universe whereby we are forgiven of our sins and come to know Him as our Saviour and Redeemer. The God of the Bible says that there is only ONE WAY to know Him, not many ways, and it is thru His Son, Jesus Christ-- John 14:6, Acts 4:12 and 1 Timothy 2:5. All the man made religions in the world are a direct result of each person establishing their own theology.
ABCDEFGHIJK = Alphabet = communication = Human language
100111 101101 111010 = Binary code = computer language
GTCA AATG TTCA GTTC = DNA CODE = Bio Chemical language
Evidence you ask for and it is evidence you now have. Just walk out your front door and look at creation in all of it billions upon billions upon billions of life forms and EACH with it's own DNA CODE (pre programed information)
@THERAPTURECOMES. Biological information comes from evolution, which came from cosmic chemistry, by the endless cycles of the universe, of death and rebirth. DNA is not a code, its an arrangement of molecules, which we relate to as a code, but information science, uses computers to define biological matrices. All the way to infinite, energy has always existed, which built the entire universe, by natural means.
@KevZen2000 You say energy has always existed and this is 'natural' but I ask you, why should there be anything? Why should there be energy instead of nothing? You have a god therefore called 'energy', which is impersonal. If from your name, you are Buddhist, you believe your identity is soon to pass away like a wave coming upon the beach. Jesus wants YOU to be perfected and have eternal life, through faith in Him. You might like my latest video, at the end it speaks of the horror of Nirvana.
@Enoch2. I am not Buddhist, or religious. We do not know about the afterlife, and its best to wait until, we have enough empirical data, to determine what it is. Religion, is faith, you believe, or you do not, so its not something to debate, but ultimately, science will discover what it is, if it does exist. Its best to remain agnostiic on such metaphysical issues, such as the afterlife, and what God would be, if it does exist.
@Enoch2. Energy has always existed in the universe, in various forms, as stated by the first law of thermodynamics, there is an infinite cycle of death, and rebirth, so its not a question of if the universe, had a beginning, but what has always existed in the universe.
@KZ Do you know that 'laws' of nature are really just generalizations from human experience? So it is an assumption that laws of nature have always worked the way they do or even that they operate everywhere.
"For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: And he is before all things, and by him all things consist." Col 1:16-17
we are not suppose to practice the mosaic law anymore but we have to keep the ten commandments because it cames from God personally,please keep in mind that God does not change,the world shall pass away but not his words!!!!only 2 %of the christians will be raptured those that kept the ten command
Disturbed by this proclamation, as Paul consistently refers to to the oracles,living oracles as a standard for living. It is not a contradiction to look to the Torah for righteous guidance for living and walking in restored relationship with our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
nubruhinpg 4 days ago
I say Yes every Laws in the Torah should be kept even the animal sacrifices if its possible but how can anyone do that right now when you can only offer that where He keep His name abide wc is in Jerusalem only and can we go and offer it ourselves? i dont think so,for there are no sons of Aaron anywhere nor any Levites alive and living right now to offer it for us.So i believe its just suspended for the time being.
meteormikael 1 month ago
@meteormikael Suspended? The scriptures says differently in Hebrews 7:1111 Now if perfection was through the Levitical priesthood (for on the basis of it the people received the Law), what further need was there for another priest to arise according to the order of Melchizedek, and not be designated according to the order of Aaron? 12 For when the priesthood is changed, of necessity there takes place a change of law also. The Priesthood was changed, and so the Law changed also.
biggdad1 1 month ago
@meteormikael Jesus is the everlasting Priest after the order of Melchizedek, the priesthood is done away with forever not temporarily. God also in ad 70 destroyed Herods temple as a sign of judgement and as a sign of the end of the 1ST Covenant. You can't keep all of Torah without the temple. God took away your ability to keep it all.
biggdad1 1 month ago
how many times do the scriptures tell us then what shall we do nullify the law God forbid for I would not have known what coveting was accept the law said do not covet. the scriptures are very clear that no one will be saved by their own efforts. Salvation is the gift of God thru Yeshua to all who beleive but what does that mean. read James
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Most law keepers dont believe the law can save you but Jesus Christ alone. With that in agreement we are talking solely about how our walk with Christ should look AFTER salvation. The question that needs to be answered is whose rules should we follow to live a moral life pleasing to God. If you were a thief before Christ and you are convicted to stop......isn't that putting your self under the law. If you try to obey one you must obey all. You said it yourself. So to follow your logic you must
chadgleaves 2 months ago
@chadgleaves The moral laws of God (do not kill, steal, covet, commit adultery, etc) are still binding for us today because they are all repeated in the New Testament letters. When we speak about the Torah, we are speaking about everything-- animal sacrifices, feasts, sabbath keeping, etc. There are people who say that we MUST keep all of those things, and failure to keep them proves that we are in wilfull disobedience. Btw, these people have no response when asked about animal sacrifices.
ProclaimHisWord 2 months ago
@ProclaimHisWord Wasn't animal sacrifice the school master for what Jesus was going to do for the people? Thus Jesus' crucifixion was the fulfillment for the law of animal sacrifice. Hence why upon his death the curtain in the temple was torn. Faith and Devotion ultimately leads to works. If we love him we keep his commandments. Be blessed
YaHuWaHservant 2 months ago
@YaHuWaHservant read LEVITICUS Chapters 1-23 you will see that with every feast day that there must be offerings of fire that had to be preformed by the Levitical Priesthood. It's no longer possible to even keep feast days without the sons of Aaron.
biggdad1 1 month ago
@ProclaimHisWord - I am friends with several messianic Jews. They do have a response to animal sacrifices. 1- Jesus took care of the atonement sacrifice. 2. There are OTHER sacrifices that do not deal with sin that are still valid today. 3. To sacrifice anywhere but the temple would be the same as sacrificing to a demon god. 4. Sacrifices do not determine salvation but belief in Christ - Salvation has always been the same in Old and New testament - Faith saves us.
chadgleaves 1 month ago
Most law keepers dont believe the law can save you but Jesus Christ alone. With that in agreement we are talking solely about how our walk with Christ should look AFTER salvation. The question that needs to be answered is whose rules should we follow to live a moral life pleasing to God. If you were a thief before Christ and you are convicted to stop......isn't that putting your self under the law. If you try to obey one you must obey all. You said it yourself. So to follow your logic you must
chadgleaves 2 months ago
@chadgleaves that's not placing your self under the law..The real question is what has God called His people to do and the answer is clear 1st John 3:23 This is His commandment, that we [l]believe in the name of His Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, just as He commanded us. 24 The one who keeps His commandments abides in Him, and He in him. We know by this that He abides in us, by the Spirit whom He has given us. the one scripture Torah Keepers never use in arguments.
biggdad1 1 month ago
Amazing, brother, what you speak!!! total truth! Love you!
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We probably aren't saved by believing in Jesus and keeping the Torah?? That may be the scariest thing I've heard anyone say. Ever! Paul kept Torah and the Sabbath! Your reading Paul's writing backwards. Again the law does NOT justify us! Only the messiach does! And those who love him KEEP HIS LAWS. Any thing else is lawlessness. In fact instead of arguing this on YouTube, anyone doubting this must rightly divide the word not someone's opinion. Start with defining lawlessness in scripture.
TadFortitude 3 months ago
I'm very saddened that videos like this detour new believers from the law. It is not keeping the paw that saves you! This is true. BUT anyone who understands the word of the Massiach who saved us, knows that the Torah is our guideline for life not for salvation. All fall short of the glory of God and must have The Lamb to cover our sins. But you are misquoting Paul terribly. You preach continued repentance and not living loosely. But deny the law we were given. Please stop leading people away.
TadFortitude 3 months ago
@ProclaimHisWord I urge you to read Matthew 5:17-20. What you are teaching is of Satan since he is against the standard of righteousness that the Almighty Creator established. Verses such as Leviticus 23:14, 21, 31 and 41 state that the command shall be observed forever. A works salvation? What about willful transgression of the Almighty Creator's standard of righteousness through hostile ignorance?
davegooley 3 months ago
@davegooley 1) What you are advocating is going back under the Mosaic Law, and for that, you are JUDAIZER under the condemnation of Galatians 1:8-9.
2) Leviticus 23:14, 21, 31 and 41 & Matthew 5:17-20 were written TO JEWS who WERE STILL UNDER THE MOSAIC LAW, those passages do not apply to christians in the church age.
3) Go read 2 Timothy 2:15-- especially the part about RIGHTLY DIVIDING the Word of truth.
4) Spend less time on your xBox 360 and more time studying the Word of God.
ProclaimHisWord 3 months ago
@ProclaimHisWord what I find amazing is the hypocrisy you just displayed in your reply. No fruit of the Spirit and hostile against the Scriptures. You apparently need to follow the second half of 4) yourself since you don't understand the words of Messiah. Ask yourself this. If Torah was done away with, what standard of righteousness are you following? If you say the Messiah, you are a liar because of what the Messiah stated in Matthew 5:17-20.
davegooley 3 months ago
@davegooley "No fruit of the Spirit and hostile against the Scriptures".
I expect a judaizer who has been called to the carpet to accuse one of lacking the fruit of the Spirit. Make no mistake-- i will call you for what you are: a modern-day judaizer who is preaching another gospel. Again, you are under the condemnation of Galatians 1:8-9.
ProclaimHisWord 3 months ago
@ProclaimHisWord furthermore, it is you who are following "another gospel" since Deuteronomy 4:2 and 12:32 state that you shall not add to nor diminish any command in the Torah. What did you repent from if you did so? Repentance is turning away from the ways of the world, and the world is against the charge of the Almighty Creator, which contains all of His commands, laws and teachings. You are still part of the world and not a true believer by your own declaration and ignorance.
davegooley 3 months ago
@ProclaimHisWord you seem to confuse the Torah with the Pharisees' Talmud, which is also a transgression of Deuteronomy 4:2; 12:32. Even the Messiah rebuked them because of their traditions. Did you forget about Ephesians 2:10, or does this contradict your personal theology? I would have sent this by private message, but you have friend lock enabled like every other self-declared expert of the Bible that hides behind their own theology and can't handle being called on ignorance of the Bible.
davegooley 3 months ago
@davegooley Why would you send your message privately? i answered you publicly so that is how i expect a response. Now, i am confusing nothing! you are ignorant of the Scriptures and have no clue how to rightly divide God's Word. You and all the other Law keepers prance around telling people that they need to keep Torah when you know full well that you fail miserably at it. Again, if the jews could not keep it, then why do you think that you can? Break one, you break them all, James 2:10.
ProclaimHisWord 3 months ago
@ProclaimHisWord exactly, you have broken the entire Torah with your claim that it has been done away with. Judaizer? Typical insult from a heathen who falsely believes he is of the Almighty Creator when you really follow a heathen's religion. The Jews abandoned the Torah because they rejected the Almighty Creator, just as you have. If you think you repented from sin, you deceive yourself. You can never be righteous without living according to the standard of righteousness, the Torah.
davegooley 3 months ago
@ProclaimHisWord anyone can keep the Torah if they don't use the excuse that it can't be kept. The Messiah observed it because it is not hard to keep. Abraham observed it and he started as a heathen. Ruth repented and observed Torah. Stop deceiving yourself and change your username. You are unworthy to have ProclaimHisWord since you proclaim heresy. When you are judged, you will be judged by the Torah, not the heretical theology you adhere to.
davegooley 3 months ago
@ProclaimHisWord in closing, go repent and learn what it means to be a genuine and true believer. You can't be righteous by piggy backing off the work of the Messiah. It is no different than working for an employer. If you refuse to do the work, you are terminated. If you refuse to do works of righteousness, you are a slothful servant like the servant who hid the one talent given to him. Examine the Scriptures instead of pretending to know them, deceiving yourself in the process.
davegooley 3 months ago
@davegooley You have just exposed yourself as a deceived, self-righteous, works-righteous HERETIC! Your bankrupt, works centered theology is no different than the one practiced by Roman Cathoic Church, and you will crack hell wide open, IF you do not repent of your hell doomed faith/works "gospel" and put your faith in Christ ALONE for your salvation. Now, go and study these verses: Acts 13:39, Romans 3:21-28, 4:5, 5:1, 10:4, Galatians 2:16, 3:6, 10-14, 21-24, Ephesians 2:8-9 & 21.
ProclaimHisWord 3 months ago
Brother, I must warned you not to take the Mark-of-the-Beast. Babylon (Christiandom) you need to come of of her if you truely are a servant of Christ. Christiandom has poisoned all nations with the doctrines of Rome. The 144,000 saints which follow the Lamb have none of Romes error in theirs mouth, Rev:14,4 and they keep Gods commandments and the also have the faith of Jesus. Rev:14,12. You are under the very deception Christ warned of. Come out! Sunday worship is what you hold on to.
annbxutube 3 months ago
The Law says to not cheat in business, to not lie, to believe in Yahuwah, to believe in the Messiah, and to be filled with the Spirit of God. The Law says to help the orphans, the widows, the sojourners, and the Levites. The Law says to pray, praise, worship, fast, repent, water baptize, and to have revival gatherings (holy convocations). The Law says to love God with all your being, to love your neighbors, and to love your enemies. The Law says to rejoice before Yah, to not commit adultery, etc
yahokobbenyah 3 months ago
I know and understand. I have been affiliated with Messianic Christians and have learned a lot about the scripture, but what is the point of keeping the Mosaic Law if no flesh is justified by it. The Just shall live by faith. Thank you Jesus.
doobersmanster 4 months ago
(Rom 3:31) Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law seems to cancel Rom 3:28 so I am still confused. I also wonder what you think the difference is between salvation and inheriting the kingdom? I believe in John 3:15 and am confused by (1 Cor 6:9) Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
DEUT28iztruth 4 months ago
Study as if your Life depended on it, or Don't , who do you love? Take up your cross and......
Bamboothought 4 months ago
Wow , this is awsome ! So much debate , it only confirms what our father in the heavens tells us , " unless you look for me with everything in your core you will not find me" , so many debates, so much to study, what's a nazarite? Who is Joshua The annointed, does torah=teaching?
Bamboothought 4 months ago
I believe the messiah was speaking to the extreame legalists in the jewish faith who were so focused on the law they lost the deeper greater spiritual purose behind it. Like when he observed the sabbath until someone was in need. The extreame legalist would most likely hesitate to help another out of fear of breaking the sabbath. THAT was the mindframe that was being combated at that time
Arcangellight 4 months ago
What it comes down to is what do you believe is the purpose of the law, I have never in my life heard anyone of any faith say that the law will save you. You yourself said it, the law lets you know what is sinful and the messiah pleads on our behalf to atone for those sins. What is he going to atone for if there is no law. The messiah specifically said that he is NOT here to abolish the law but to fulfill them. Think about it.
Arcangellight 4 months ago
the law was never given to save but to show us our sins and need of a savior
ncbookz 4 months ago
@ncbookz the works based religion is the end day lie that the whole world is following, via ranks levels grades credit everything in the devils system is a works based system,, all lies
ncbookz 4 months ago
@ncbookz What are the commandments of god? jesus said! to believe on his son whom god sent
ncbookz 4 months ago
In addition, there is a lot of evidence to suggest that Acts was a fictitious work written many years after even Paul taught. There are too many contradictions between the book of Acts and Paul's own epistles. The Jerusalem council, which James the Just and others of Yeshuah's followers were suggested to attend, may not have actually happened. But that is definitely speculation. What is not speculation is what James and Simeon thought of Paul of Tarsus and wrote about him.
Gerardleglise 4 months ago
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Gerardleglise 4 months ago
Galatians is a piece of anti-semitic rhetoric. Jews are people. God, Yaweh, Hashem, whatever you consider Him, whatever way He exists, I'm sure would not advocate slandering and verbally abusing an entire people. I wouldn't expect you to be familiar with the Apocrypha, but even in your NT, Matthew records Jesus as saying, even though the writer did not exist around the teachings of Yeshua, that he had not come to do away with Torah. Jesus was Jewish man. Get it straight.
Gerardleglise 4 months ago
"the law points to our sinfulness"
Which parts of the law point to our sinfulness? All of it? Or just some of it.
"Jesus perfectly fulfills the law and imputes his righteousness to us"
Amen. I'm very glad that he does, because as you said, it's impossible to perfectly keep God's law.
Rom 6:1-2 - I agree with you here, Paul does not suggest that we should keep on sinning
"Conformed Daily into the image of Jesus Christ" - You said it! But how much like him should we be conformed?
daniellachlanclark 4 months ago
Roms 3:20 - Correct! No justification by the law
Roms 10:4 - Correct! The law should point us directly to Christ and his righteousness
Gal 2:16 - Correct! Man is not justified by "works of the law"
Gal 3:11-12 - Correct! Not justified by law, the just will live by his faith. The law is not the thing we put our faith in for salvation, rather we live by them.
Gal 3:24 - Correct! We are no longer under compulsory obligation to fulfill God's law, but freely, because we are saved, in love and faith
daniellachlanclark 4 months ago
another pagan ritual received from the catholics
recessionready 5 months ago
Didn't Jesus follow the Torah? Didnt the 12 follow the Torah? If we take away the Torah, where do we get our laws from? The new testament leaves out so many commandments found in the new testament. It requires both faith and the LAW. Jesus was the LAW and we are to follow HIM
recessionready 5 months ago
The Law was just a curse to the old testimate people right? Isn't there in the BIBLE that said we are free from the CURSE, of the law??? Please let me know. Some laws really hurt. :-(. Please give me thos verses or verse that might say that. GOD bless you Brother. Good ministering video.
MissRiki1987 5 months ago
Do you consider all other denomination of christianity "Satanic" ? you shouldn't judge people on their belief. The strenght of your honesty and your way of being sure of yourself is refreshing, but the thing is that if the bible was precise enough to be interpreted in only one way, only one denomination of christianity would exist.
ThinkerResearcher 5 months ago
UNIVERSAL SALVATION was for me a HERESY, people pleasing idea until I saw passages like this.
Romans 5;19 "for as through the disobedience of the one man,THE MANY were constituted sinners: so also through the obedience of the one, shall THE MANY be constituted righteous."
Do you believe it? Hell is NOT the final plan of God. EVERYONE WILL BE SAVED THROUGH JESUS, YES EVERYONE.
motibi 5 months ago
i have never seen a christian who said its necessary to keep the torah for salvation. the chrisitans i see choose to because they like to have a way to order their families. so many christians choosing to practice secular pagan practices,like shaving the face, using interest, christmas trees. the early christians kept the torah in order to have a way of life. only once people started trying to further conversion they stopped talking about the law.
lizzieworld13 5 months ago
@lizzieworld13 the torah has scientific benefits. Everyone talks about WWJD? and wanting to be like Jesus, but to live as he lived would be living a curse? Some have to be able to separate Paul's own opinion from Gods actual words. God told people to bathe after intercourse, child birth, menustration. circucision prevents the spread of disease. and the dietary laws prevent major digestive problems and unknown allergies. you dont have to do this for salvation. but when early christian europe had
lizzieworld13 5 months ago
@lizzieworld13 no law what were they doing. early european christians with no law were throwing their urine and feces and the streets and bathing 1x a year. eating animals that ate dead bodies and feces. no standard of modesty. Jesus did not die so people could drop the law and practice still their pagan ways.
lizzieworld13 5 months ago
6 people dislike the truth of God's word, the blood of Jesus Christ, the lost, the saved, the Holy Spirit. EXCELLENT as always brother, you always take a stand for the truth, and I believe more souls than you know will be in Heaven on account of your faithfulness to our Lord Jesus Christ in proclaiming the gospel that saves- to have faith as a child in Him. What a loving God He is!
JesusPaid4You 5 months ago
If Yeshua did away with his own commandments, would he not be contradicting himself? What about Matthnew 5:17 and 5:18? Why was the Torah written? So that we could just say: "Oh Jesus did away the the law with his death so we don't have to worry about all that works stuff" - Anybody who says that such as the person in front of the video camera above is saying that G-d is double minded and says that we can live under grace only with no understanding of what grace actually is. This is a shame.
liveguy7 5 months ago
Don't be taken in by the "Grace" with no understanding Gospel, it bastardises the Gospel and attacks the integrity of Yahweh. No flesh is justified by the works of the law, correct. Bear in mind that Yeshua said that if you love me you will keep my commandments...are Yeshua and Yawheh not one in the same? What commandments is he referring to? Faith without works is dead and void of any love towards G-d. Be careful of the "Grace only" doctrine - it leads to a disobedient and dangerous road.
liveguy7 5 months ago
I cannot think of anything that will destroy the Gospel faster than what this man is attempting to disseminate. He is referring to legalism, keeping laws in order to attain or sustain salvation. Yeshua did not do away with the law, if he did, why did Paul, John and the rest of the believers still worship on the Sabbath and keep the commandments. Do some study, Yeshua spoke out against legalism, the Talmud and similar man made laws but never contradicted the perfect law of G-d.
liveguy7 5 months ago
All Calvinists want to do is argue because they do not live in the spiritual plain. Calvinism is pseudo-Christianity invented by a corrupt man. John Calvin, was actually Jean Cauin from Noyons, France, and educated in a secret society college called College du Montagu. The same place where Ignatius Loyola, the "Catholic" founder of the Society of Jesuits, was educated. When in Switzerland, Calvin was known as Cohen. This name relates to the 'priest' and goes back to the Egyptian mystery schools.
Pilgrim1411 6 months ago
How can anyone seriously use Old Testament Scriptures to invalidate New Testament teaching? The OT Scriptures were for those living under the law and not for those who were saved under grace.
The works spoken of in James were speaking of corresponding actions (James 2:14-17), not the works of the mosaic law. The law (a shadow) was to lead us the Jesus (the reality).
GraceofTheWay 6 months ago
Were you baptized?
gimbledink7227 6 months ago
Proverb: 28:9
Zechariah chapters 13 and 14
Isaiah 2:2-5
sachaban 6 months ago
I noticed one thing that wasnt mentioned. That people are going as far as completly denying Paul the Apostle to have an excuse not to listen to his apistles. CRAZY!
believerintheword 6 months ago
Finally! A good video on Works based salvation! Jesus died for nothing once you work for your salvation. I cant believe people fail for this seduction of Torah. Its Modern Day Jewdiazers! Wake up Folks!
believerintheword 6 months ago
If i make it to the USA can I come to your bible group?
TheLittleWhiteStone 6 months ago
I am not a Torah keeper.Never even heard the term,but I do question where repentance is during the process of salvation?Anywhere?
nld1960 7 months ago
This is nothing new.There are atheist channels with hatred for Christians.
PastorDowell is one of the biggest on YouTube.His followers are many more than that bearded South African.I have not heard anything about his channel.
nld1960 7 months ago
and of course this brings out the "Sacred Name" people *sigh* Anyway...great teaching bro <3
TanjaEubanks 7 months ago
the wine skins parable.. Jesus himself spoke on it.
TheGreatCommission79 7 months ago
Works salvation is going to be the norm for the Kingdom, but it has nothing to do with the era of Grace we are in now.
PanoramaOfScripture 7 months ago
Yes!! Those who are not born again are under the Law (Old Cov-Torah).Those who are born again are under Grace (New Cov Gospel). NC conditions are "NOT LIKE" the OC (Jer 31:31-34) with its covenant signs of sabbath and circumcision. NC signs are Lords Supper and Baptism. The righteousness of higher eternal law of God is worked in the heart by the Spirit and out in the life by fruits of spirit. OC signs fulfilled by Christ's Rest from new creation.work and circumcision of the heart.
brianhyde63 7 months ago
@ProclaimHisWord -
Nice video. You presented this Biblical topic very well. I've also noticed legalism teaching is on the increase. Legalism was apparent in the early Church, which forced Paul to deal with it in his epistles, it has continuously made recurrences throughout the Churches history (Catholic Church is a good example). Why one would purposely choose to miss Jesus’ covenant of imputed grace is beyond me.
Continue to walk in the Lord's grace and peace.
Blessings
Isaiah122 7 months ago
i like this video alot
T0MIWAR 7 months ago
PHW, please check out amightywind prophecies as well. It talks about the imposter Jesus, and in the days of the Antichrist when the fake Jesus reigns, you will only be protected by the Almighty's Hand by calling upon His true Sacred Name, YAHUSHUA or YAHSHUA.
You will see these prophecies are of God and it's what started opening my eyes.
PropheticVindicator 7 months ago
Also, I am a believer in the Doctrines of Grace just so you know where I am coming from, but YAHWEH called me out of the Pagan church system.
PropheticVindicator 7 months ago
PHW, I have always loved your videos, however I am going to have to disagree with you on this. I am not a legalist, but I believe we should try to embrace the Jewishness of Messiah to the best of our degree as YAHUSHUA did. We have inherited lies (Jeremiah 16:19) more specifically, Babylonian sun god worship. That being said, I believe in observing what we can- including feasts, Sabbath, etc. Check out Michael Rood, he has great teachings on this.
Also, the Tribulation will bring a false Jesus.
PropheticVindicator 7 months ago
this hurts me. it really does...and reading the comments back and forth...the venom hurts me. the Messiah saved me from death (spiritually & physically), & He has been drawing me closer to Him day by day. He sealed me for salvation from the beginning, & nothing i do can earn me His most amazing gift of Life that He has already given me. but i love Him...i really do. and now i am being called unsaved because He is transforming me slowly into the image of my perfectly Torah-abiding King...
talmidofyhoshua 7 months ago
Thank you guys for putting out this video, I appreciate very much......many are being deceived and following false teachings...not knowing they are being damned and going to hell with the false prophet !!
kolkattaindia 7 months ago
If u want to c god look in the mirror. Hell is set in place as a scare tactic. Just like any other man writen book. So u can call yourself whatever u want and think that magical things r happening. your just tricking yourself. If somebody responds to this come correct. Its just like me calling myself superman and jumping off a ladder and believe that i am flying. THe bible is for children and mainly alagory. A story,poem,ect. Peace,Shalom,Hotep,and I.S.L.A.M
215Dominator 7 months ago
You guys should not be battling each other with these books u no nothing about. Most of u r tacking the bible for face value. This makes me sick. Where in the bible does it say christ was a christain? He was a jew right. For example,he feed many people with 2 fish and 5 loafs of bread. Most of u would say,WOW!!! Its not speaking of eating. Its talking about feeding the people mentaly with the Circle 7. If u studyed u would know that.
215Dominator 7 months ago
Two choices:
Option 1: Mat 5:19 “Whoever, then, breaks one of the least of these commands, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the reign of the heavens;
Option 2: but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the reign of the heavens.
faxchase 7 months ago
I think you are telling it like Christ Himself would!~ We are grafted as His beloved. He is the Vine, and we His branches as we bear the Fruit of the Spirit of the Living God. Eph. 2:11-16.
nancypiper 7 months ago
Your advice to those who encounter individuals involved with a works gospel was perfect. Ask 'em, point blank, if they're saved. Having encountered a few such individuals I'm convinced they have no clear revelation of God's saving power through Jesus Christ alone. It might be offensive for them to hear the simple Gospel of faith alone, in Jesus Christ alone. But if done in the here-in-now, the only thing that will be lost is pride wrought by futile efforts to gain God's favor.
gore53 7 months ago
I want2 know how 2get n touch w/ u via email?? So far wat I've heard, U remind me of my teachings!
Godsglorychild 7 months ago
Great message Mark! Unfortunately, you will have oppositions just as the disciples did with other so called christians. People always forget that salvation is a free gift and the works it speaks of is not physical duty but a self transformation as in Romans 12:2. many misunderstand scripture and won't listen to correction. All you have to do is continue with your videos bro and know that the message you and others preach is well accepted based on scriptural knowledge. Many don't have that.
chuckyoo 7 months ago
you are teaching antinomianism...which is false doctrine.
rusda2 7 months ago
@rusda2 You did not watch the video, because if you did, you would never have made that comment.
ProclaimHisWord 7 months ago
@ProclaimHisWord did you or did you not in the video say that we are not to keep God's law now? that is what I heard you say, and that is antinomianism.
rusda2 7 months ago
@rusda2 We are not to put our faith in the Lord Jesus AND keep the Law in order to be justified before God-- the context of what i said in the video should be clear as the noonday sun. We are justified by Faith ALONE in Christ, APART from any law keeping. It is mindboggling to hear anyone accuse me of teaching antinomianism when i have dozens of videos exhorting believers to live holy and righteous lives before our Lord.
ProclaimHisWord 7 months ago
@ProclaimHisWord friend, I never said keeping the law justifies us...it does not. we keep Gods law because we LOVE Him NOT to be saved. do u think because law does not justify that it has no value & should not be kept?. are u cherry picking those things u do not want to obey & thus throw out the entire law to get rid of what offends u?
How can they live holy righteous lives if they are not to keep Gods law? that is antinomianism.
rusda2 7 months ago
@rusda2 Where did i lose you? This video is addressed to those heretics out there who say that we ARE justified by our faith in Christ AND by the keeping of the Law.
"are u cherry picking those things u do not want to obey & thus throw out the entire law to get rid of what offends u?"
Let's see: do you keep the Ceremonial laws outlined in the Torah? what about the Social / Judicial laws? my guess is that you don't. Here are the Commandments that we are to keep-- Mark 12:30-31.
I am done.
ProclaimHisWord 7 months ago
@ProclaimHisWord What ceremonial laws are you speaking of? do you mean the Sabbath? which is NOT a ceremonial law, but one of the ten commandments? most christians mistakenly or purposely lump the 4th commandment in with ceremonial laws.
I dont keep feast days or sacrifice animals.
as for the commandments we are to keep, u seem to be missing what most do...Jesus is the one who gave the ten commandments at sinai, Jesus does NOT change, thus His 10 commandment law does not change.
rusda2 7 months ago
@rusda2 Gross hypocrite!!! You accuse me of "cherry picking those things u do not want to obey & thus throw out the entire law to get rid of what offends u?", and now you admit to the parts of the Law that you WILFULLY CHOOSE NOT TO OBEY-- feast days and animal sacrifices-- so you really don't keep the Law do you? after all, those two things go the the heart and soul of the Mosaic Law. You Law keepers bellyache about us who do not keep Torah, while you are breaking it yourselves-- HYPOCRITE!!
ProclaimHisWord 7 months ago
@ProclaimHisWord are u a Christian? just wondering. u seem very angry.
u need to go back & READ what u quoted of my comments...I did NOT accuse u...I ASKED u a QUESTION.
how about a Christian apology?
I choose not to obey what God does not require. feasts/sacrifices were fulfilled in Christ. I said nothing about u or anyone else keeping the torah...any more false accusations for me?
u know, I see in the comments that I am not the only one u attacked like this. whats up with u man? u ok?
rusda2 7 months ago
L.O.L.i gave you evidences of the bible that having faith is not all,but you nice christian has to insult me,what do you think between us will go to hell?you the liar?or me quoting the scripture to save you???please dunnot deceive those who dunnot read their bibles to understand that it is necessary to keep the commandments of God to find salvation.bye bye,nice christian
s7pgo 7 months ago
@s7pgo "L.O.L.i gave you evidences of the bible that having faith is not all"
Like a judaizing heretic, you twisted the Words of Scripture to prove your damnable heresy!
"please dunnot deceive those who dunnot read their bibles to understand that it is necessary to keep the commandments of God to find salvation"
You are woefully ignorant of Scripture and you are the one here who is deceived and a rank liar! Your father is the devil and i will treat you with the same respect as i would satan.
ProclaimHisWord 7 months ago
@ProclaimHisWord It seems everyone that disagrees with you is "woefully gnorant". I'm starting to see the charachter flaw Pride is not becoming. Thats such a shame. Well, I do know that Yahweh's Torah is eternal,and unchangeable and as Isaiah the prophet states,the Torah will go forth out of Zion in the Millenium. Also,please read the last 8 chapters of Ezekiel about the millennial temple. Whatt do we do with that pal? Just erase it?
DeliverTheWord1 7 months ago
@DeliverTheWord1 "It seems everyone that disagrees with you is "woefully gnorant"".
No! those who wilfully twist the Scriptures out of their right contexts to prove their unbiblical heresies are ignorant-- i will not apologize for that. A text, out of context, is a pretext.
"as Isaiah the prophet states,the Torah will go forth out of Zion in the Millenium".
Of Course, Messiah will be ruling and reigning on this earth then-- the Law cannot be separated from the Lawgiver.
ProclaimHisWord 7 months ago
@ProclaimHisWord Well, you just answered me though partially. The Torah is not "dead" as it will continue even onto the millenium. Then how can you say it's dead? Once again I ask the question:What does one do with the hundreds of statement by Yahweh in His Torah that the torah is Eternal and unchangeable?? Do we mark over with those passages with a blackmarker? Either Hashem said what He meant or He didn't. Which is it? I still dpn't see an expiration date on the Torah.
DeliverTheWord1 7 months ago
@DeliverTheWord1 "Once again I ask the question:What does one do with the hundreds of statement by Yahweh in His Torah that the torah is Eternal and unchangeable?? Do we mark over with those passages with a blackmarker?"
Did you really watch the video? have you read any of the other comments that i have posted? ALL of your questions have been answered in the video or in the comments-- please read them or go back and watch the video.
ProclaimHisWord 7 months ago
And your incredible supernatural hatred of the Jew comes shining through. Your reply to another poster here callimg him a "judaizing heretic" is more than enough evidence. Why such jew hatred pal? Were still here regardless of gentule persecution so were not going away. You should really dig yourself dude and flush out that putrid cancer of anti-semitism in your deepest dark soul. You say you love Jesus but yet you name jews heretics? Thats incredible and yet tragic
DeliverTheWord1 7 months ago
@DeliverTheWord1 You have just shown your ABSOLUTE ignorance of what i believe! I have a bunch of videos supporting the jews AND their eternal right to the land of Israel-- it is also a part of my statement of faith posted on my homepage-- go and watch them and go and read my statement of faith. Also, i have had to correct and dis-associate myself from many anti-semites here on YT and many people have unsubscribed from my channel because of my support of Israel and the jews-- you are in error.
ProclaimHisWord 7 months ago
@ProclaimHisWord LOL You support them? Yet at the same time you want them to eat pig,keep their foreskins and act like gentiles when hashem commands them to keep His precepts for an ETERNITY. Whayt kind of shitty gentile logic is that. You ahve absolutely no concept of Jews or our relationship with Hashem and you come on all high all high and mighty. Thats worse than hamas,or Hezbollah. Their my enemies yet you claiming to love Israel stab them inthe back? Some support.
DeliverTheWord1 7 months ago
@DeliverTheWord1 It is very clear to me that you have no concept of what it means to be saved-- you know not the gospel and you are still bound up under the Law, which, if you continue in that direction, will damn you to the Lake of Fire. My prayer is that the Lord Jesus would open your eyes to the truth and reveal to you your lost condition. Paul condemned the Galatians for their damnable heresy, and i will do the same with you. May God have mercy on your hell doomed soul.
ProclaimHisWord 7 months ago
Oh yes your love for the Jew just comes shining through pal. What blows mymind is how much fervor you have for de-judaizing them. I bet it would thrill your heart to see jews dining on Pig and having their foreskins put back on. Thisa is one jew who was born a jew and will die a jew. Yeshua is my saviour but I will never be a gentile. Never and you cannot force my people even at gunpoint to be gentiles and live as gentiles. We will never compromise our G-d's commands. Good luck dejudaizing.
DeliverTheWord1 7 months ago
@DeliverTheWord1 Pt 2: "You say you love Jesus but yet you name jews heretics?"
Have you ever read Matthew 23? Jesus called the religious leaders more than heretics--just a sample: hypocrites, fools, blind guides, serpents, brood of vipers, whitewashed tombs, etc. In John 8:44, He called them children of the devil--that's stronger than heretic. ANYONE who perverts the Gospel by teaching faith and keeping of the Law is a heretic-- i will Not apologize for calling out a lying heretic.
ProclaimHisWord 7 months ago
@ProclaimHisWord Yes true that the Pharisees were corrupt but does that mean all the jews were? That's Nazi thinking. There are many gentiles in your brood that are just as corruptable and serpents too pal. Don't be a hypocrite. You want to have a pissing contest with me?I also do not apologize for loving my Creatotrr and His Holy word the Torah.. Don't try to fight me pal. You don't even speak or read Hebrew or know Jews yet you put them all in the trash? Filthy Nazi swine.
DeliverTheWord1 7 months ago
@DeliverTheWord1 You have an inability to understand clear and simple english. The reference to the religious leaders was a reference to those who were teaching false doctrine and the Lord had very harsh words for them, it was not speaking about all jews-- you are beyond irrational. Second, i am shaking in my boots here-- you are soooo tough that i am scared out of my wits-- oh boy, what am i going to do now? Filthy nazi swine? lol!!! you can do better than that-- i have been called much worse.
ProclaimHisWord 7 months ago
That is what the book of James is about.
Jas 2:17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
Jas 2:18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
Jas 2:19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
Jas 2:20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
Jesus said..
Joh_14:15 If ye love me keep my commandments
XjmedX 7 months ago
Everyone needs to understand that we are made righteous through Jesus' sacrifice but what then?
Rom 6:1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
Rom 6:2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
What is sin?
1Jn 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
So under these guidlines, believers are not supposed to sin and sin is transgression of the law so we follow the law.
XjmedX 7 months ago
@XjmedX Read Romans and 1 John again. Paul makes it clear that we as believers are not to be living in habitually sin, however, he goes on in chapter seven and talks about his struggles with sin-- doing what he didn't want to do and not doing what he wanted to do, 15-25. John is also speaking about people living in habitual sin, but he tells us that when those of us who are saved do sin, we should confess our sins and we will be forgiven by Jesus, our Advocate, 1 Jn 1:9 & 2:1-2. Cont...
ProclaimHisWord 7 months ago
@ProclaimHisWord Pt2: Both Paul and John differentiate between those who are truly saved and those who are false converts. True believers will mourn over their sins and will want to be continually be cleansed by our Lord Jesus, not so for the false professors of Christ who wallow in the muck and mire of their filth without any thought whatsoever of being cleansed.
ProclaimHisWord 7 months ago
@ProclaimHisWord That's what I said. When we become believers we are under grace but if we continue to sin then we bring ourselves under the law. That is what Paul is talking about. He's saying that believers are no longer under the law because we are obedient. If there is no law then there is no such thing as sin...
Rom 7:8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
If sin is dead then we don't need a saviour.
XjmedX 7 months ago
Normally Brother, I agree with you.
As a "Messianic" I have never heard anyone in any of my circles claim we are saved by works. I keep the Sabbath on Saturday by choice and because I believe it is obedience.
I am saved by faith through Christs atoning work. I do things (works) because I am saved.
I never put this burden on anyone else. That is between them and God.
truthsintheword 7 months ago
@truthsintheword Brother, as i stated before, this video in in response to many people who i have ran into here and on FaceBook who are teaching faith and keeping of the Law. The two ladies in the video came up against one of those people in the last week, so they are out there. Now, i respect your position, however, that is not the position of some and they would like to put the burden of keeping the Law on others as evidence that we are really His.
ProclaimHisWord 7 months ago
@ProclaimHisWord I have ran into Messianics that are just as bad. After reading all the comments I understand more what you are battling.
truthsintheword 7 months ago
if you read revelation chapter:14vers12,you will know that the 10 commandments is our relation with God+ the testimony of Yah.or you can read revelation chapter 12 vers17.please stop lying to other sheep.the blind leads the blinds to hell!!!!dunnot play church here on youtube if you dunnot keep the sabbath,as James stated,when you break a commandment you break them all,it means every week you break them because of your ignorance of knowledge.please kill your pride and accept the truth
s7pgo 7 months ago
@s7pgo You are an ignorant and hellbound judaizing heretic and may God have mercy on your wretched soul if you do not repent of your prideful, satanic and cross denying works righteousness, and REST in the FINISHED work that the Lord Jesus ACCOMPLISHED on Calvary's cross! You are NOT saved if you think that the keeping of God's Commandments will justify you somehow when you stand before Him-- you will be thrown head first into the Lake of Fire! REPENT! and believe the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
ProclaimHisWord 7 months ago
Amen and Amen. Good video Mark!
excatholics 7 months ago
Does not Yahweh declare throughtout many passages in Torah and Tanakh that His Torah is unchangeable and Eternal? I can point out so many passages where He Himself declares that. Isn't Yahwehs very words proof enough that His Torah is Eternal? Who changed that? I don't see anywhere in the Gospel where jesus cancels out the torah. Instead I only see Him validating it. I think a lot of these protestant doctrines were magnified by Jew haters.
DeliverTheWord1 7 months ago
@DeliverTheWord1 The New Covenant has made the Old Covevant, or Torah, obsolete. (Hebrews 8:13)
fightingforthefaith 7 months ago
@fightingforthefaith I am still left with Does the question,why did Yahweh state all through His Torah that His Commands and precepts were eternal and unchangeable? If it were obsolete would not that make our Creator a liar? That's the only question i'm asking. How could the Almighty state something is eternal and then change His mind? Does Paul's writings supercede the Word of the Creator of time,space and matter? How comeJesus Himself did not say this in the Gospels?
DeliverTheWord1 7 months ago
@DeliverTheWord1 What do you not understand? ALL of God's Commandments were fulfilled by our Lord Jesus Christ, because He is eternal and therefore will be forever, when we put our faith and trust in Him, His perfect keeping of the Law is imputed to our account, and in that way, they are kept. Please go and read Galatians 4:4-5-- Jesus was born under the Law and came to redeem those who were under the Law so that we might receive the adoption of sons. This is NOT very difficult at all.
ProclaimHisWord 7 months ago
@DeliverTheWord1 The words "eternal" and "forever" do not usually mean an infinite, unending period of time in the Bible. See Jude 7, Ex. 21:6, 1Sam. 22, Jonah 2:6 for starters. In this case Torah, synonymous with the Old Covenant, has been superceded by a better covenant based on better promises (Heb. 8:6) which Jesus instituted (Luke 22:20). We are of the covenant of the Spirit and no longer of the covenant of the letter, because the letter kills and the Spirit gives life (2Cor. 3:6).
fightingforthefaith 7 months ago
@fightingforthefaith Do you understand Hebrew? The words Eternal and Forever in Hebrew mean juut that. The Torah being observed has nothing to do with Salvation.Salvation does not come by observing Torah. Torah means instruction in Holiness and living daily in sync with our Creator. Christians teach that the Torah is to be kept by the letter. Judaism does not teach that at all and I dare you to show me where it says in all judaism that we are to keep torah PERFECTLY. Yeshua saved this Jew.
DeliverTheWord1 7 months ago
@DeliverTheWord1 No, I don't understand Hebrew but I do understand that when Jonah says that he was in the fish "forever" that it didn't literally mean forever. Torah is a work of the flesh that leads to death while the covenant of the Spirit is a work of the Spirit that leads us to righteousness and life, so yes, this is a salvation issue. You will be able to see these things when you turn to the Lord but as long as you follow Torah a veil will remain over your heart. (2Cor.3:13 and following)
fightingforthefaith 7 months ago
@fightingforthefaith Torah is not a work of the flesh. Thats a lie from the pit. The Torah is the very words of the Creator of the Universe and in the torah are very deep things that are wondrous and even King David stated that G-d's Torah was as sweet as honey. I feel sorry for you that you feel the very utterances of the Almighty have been reduced to just a mere work of the flesh. What a slap in the face of Yahweh to make such a damndable statement. I guess paul is higher than Yahweh huh?
DeliverTheWord1 7 months ago
@DeliverTheWord1 No, Paul is certainly not higher than Yahweh. You just don't like what Paul says because he lauds the merits of the New Covenant which Yahweh called for (Jer. 31 and Ezek. 36) and which Jesus instituted. Your problem is with Yahweh and Jesus because they felt that a new covenant was needed but you prefer to be under the yoke of the old instead of the freedom in the new.
fightingforthefaith 7 months ago
@DeliverTheWord1 "I don't see anywhere in the Gospel where jesus cancels out the torah. Instead I only see Him validating it".
Jesus HAD to validate and keep ALL of the Law because if He was to be our Perfect Substitute, He had to fulfill God's Law perfectly-- please read Luke 24:27 and 44-45. Again, Galatians 4:4-5 makes it clear what the Lord Jesus came to do and why the Law HAD to be kept PERFECTLY by Him.
ProclaimHisWord 7 months ago
@ProclaimHisWord I agree with you 100% on what you said but how does that cancel keeping the Seventh day set apart unto Yahweh? I guess I still beg for an answer to the question:what does one do with the statements all through the Hebrew scriptures that the Torah is Eternal and unchangeable? Why did the first assembly of apostles still attend synagogue? I can provide all scripture reference if you want. Also, please provide any passage in Torah that calls Torah a burden or dreadful. Thank you
DeliverTheWord1 7 months ago
@DeliverTheWord1 "I agree with you 100% on what you said but how does that cancel keeping the Seventh day set apart unto Yahweh?"
Read Romans 14:5-6, Galatians 4:9-10 and Colossians 2:16-17.
"Also, please provide any passage in Torah that calls Torah a burden or dreadful".
I don't remember saying anything about the Torah being dreadful-- those are your words. Jesus said to the jews that they were heavy laden and that His burden was light, Matt 11:28-30-- He was making a contrast to the Law.
ProclaimHisWord 7 months ago
@DeliverTheWord1 The Law is the perfect reflection of God's Holy character, and because He is Perfect and demands perfection from us, when we look at the Law, we see our sinfulness and realize that we cannot live up to it, but that it brings death to us-- in that sense, it would be right to say that it is dreadful to us (your words). However, our Lord Jesus came, fulfilled God's requirements 100%, and when we put our faith and trust in Him, His perfect keeping of the Law is imputed to us.
ProclaimHisWord 7 months ago
Respond to this video... Also as a Jew I know of no Jewish teaching that states one must keep all the torah to the letter. Thgats a gentile teaching tomake the Torah look burdensome. Why did King David call the Torah "sweet as honey"? All Torah is is a guide to living everyday life before hashem and repentance is the key to salvation and yes,Yeshua kept the Torah perfectly and thats why He is Moshiach but he did not cancel it. Its eternal
DeliverTheWord1 7 months ago
THANKS FOR POSTING THIS!!! REALLY NEEDED TO HERE THIS!!!
lovejesustv 7 months ago
Some very good stuff. I was wondering a few things if you are saved by faith alone? What about grace? and what about the blood of Jesus you are saved? And what about baptism now saves you? And what about now your confession saves you? If belief alone saves you why were those who believed in John 8:30 and John 12:42 said not to be part of God? Just a few things to open some dialogue. May the guidance of the good Lord bring us peace and a loving heart in this dialogue. Lord willing in Jesus name.
pgfracing 7 months ago
Isn't Galatins 5:3 saying if you do one of the laws your obliged to do them all?
pgfracing 7 months ago
... cont. I've not met any people who say that one MUST observe the Torah but again, that makes no sense for since much of 'The Law' was required when living w/in the land of Israel. It sounds to me like the Hebrew Roots stuff is going on where there are not many Jews around. EVERY Messianic Jew that I've encountered will tell you that you are saved by grace thru faith - not works & that you don't have to observe ANYthing. I'm in the heart of Jerusalem Number 2 (NYC)! LOL Anyway, good video.
walksbyf8h 7 months ago
I totally agree w/ this vid. I think (I hope I can say this w/o it being misinterpreted) that the problem comes when dealing w/ our Jewish brethren. Just as we are free to ignore the Sabbath & the feast, they are free TO observe them; as is any Gentile who wishes to. I think that it would help greatly if a definition of what a Judaizer is was given. I believe it would stop much of the hard feelings or feeling that one is dismissed. We are saved by Faith ALONE in Jesus ALONE. However ... (cont).
walksbyf8h 7 months ago
.. I am free to attend a church or Messianic synagogue. I can go Sunday through Saturday (Rm 14:5). I can eat or abstain from foods. But what I do personally shouldn't be set as a standard for everyone. I haven't met anyone like these people you're referring to. But I truly believe that what I'm saying should be considered also. No Jewish person should be told that they MUST eat pork or live as a Gentile to be considered saved; & many have been told just that. ... cont.
walksbyf8h 7 months ago
There are Christians who keep parts of the Law but don't believe that saves them, its kind of like what Paul said about being vegetarian for example or eating and not eating certain foods, that person may have a weaker conscience but that doesn't mean they aren't Christians
Antisyncretism 7 months ago
God did not create us to be good little law keepers. The law was put to expose us to show not our standard but God's standard, which we cannot attain to.....thus we need the savior Jesus Christ, God manifested in the flesh. We need not the law but for Christ to be our life!
onemindonespirit 7 months ago
To take the action of going from non-belief to belief is a work.
Works are things we do. You tell people to believe. If they follow that, they do work.
(Or perhaps you're a predestination guy: in that case, nevermind.)
AGNOSTICEXTREME 7 months ago
@AGNOSTICEXTREME
Then you call Paul a liar when he told the Jailer to BELIEVE. You are just plain INCORRECT in your assertion.
THERAPTURECOMES 7 months ago
@THERAPTURECOMES
What actions can be taken that are not works?
AGNOSTICEXTREME 7 months ago
@AGNOSTICEXTREME
You made this assertion and it is up to you to prove it and there is only one way you can do that. You show me two or more verses in the bible that say BELIEVING is a WORK.
If you cannot, then this means you have gone beyond what the bible teaches and are in spiritual error.
Belief is nor works. The power is in the gospel itself Roman 1:16
THERAPTURECOMES 7 months ago
@THERAPTURECOMES
Jhn 6:28-29 Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God? Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.
1 Thess 1:2-3 We give thanks to God always for you all, making mention of you in our prayers; Remembering without ceasing your work of faith, and labour of love, and patience of hope in our Lord Jesus Christ, in the sight of God and our Father;
AGNOSTICEXTREME 7 months ago
@AGNOSTICEXTREME PT 1
(1) Here is my simple answer John 6:29 is telling the people to believe on the WORKS (of God) .Christ is not dead and risen yet this is pre-crucifixion. Learn to read and study in dispensation
It is NOT tel;ling then to believe in their own works. If they were truly understanding their Torah they would have realized Christ was sent by God (God in flesh) to be the sacrifice for sin. They should have been expecting him and understood what was coming, they did NOT.
THERAPTURECOMES 7 months ago
@AGNOSTICEXTREME
1 Thes 1-2-3 Again, read in context. This says absolutely nothing about works saving you AND this has nothing to do with the LAW.
When I said in my comment "Show me a verse in the bible that say BELIEVING is a WORK" I should have added the emphasis of (LAW)
A natural product of faith is good deeds (works) but this is not speaking to the LAW as I should have mentioned. This is all about CONTEXT.
The point I was trying to make was the LAW (works) does not save.
THERAPTURECOMES 7 months ago
@THERAPTURECOMES
"remember, without ceasing, your work of faith...in our Lord Jesus Christ"
If the man in the video is talking about the works of following the Mosaic Law, then he needs to clarify that, since the Bible explicitly demands at least one work.
The "work of God" is a work, and therefore, the salvation demands at least one work. That, my friends, is work based salvation, straight up.
(Unless, of course, our good man is in favor of predestination, in which case I withdraw my remarks.)
AGNOSTICEXTREME 7 months ago
@AGNOSTICEXTREME
I think you misunderstand. In light of all scripture, works is not salvation. So when you read 1 Thes 1:2-3 I do not believe it is referring to the work as the LAW. I believe that it is talking about good deeds. The kind that will be judged at Christs bema seat 1 Cor 3:12-15.
I do believe the through FOREKNOWLEDGE that God knows who will and will not be believers. And those that become believers are PREDESTINED to become like Christ.
I can say that I am not Calvinist.
THERAPTURECOMES 7 months ago
@THERAPTURECOMES
John 6:29 "What shall WE do that WE might work the works of God?"
"This is the work of God, that YE believe on him whom he hath sent."
Is God the one who is doing the believing? If not, then Jesus said that belief is a work that people can do.
You do work, you get salvation. That's works based salvation. If this is Calvinism then nevermind.
AGNOSTICEXTREME 7 months ago
@AGNOSTICEXTREME Ok I will try this one more time. The people (Hebrews) are looking for works and signs. Christ is CORRECTING THEM.
He is telling them that it is not THEIR WORKS but the works of GOD. It is BELIEF = FAITH that Christ is telling them about. He is telling the JEWS that it wont be their works but the work of the FATHER.
In other words, it wont be their works that saves them but BELIEF.
Christ is CORRECTING those that are asking the question.
THERAPTURECOMES 7 months ago
@THERAPTURECOMES
On a related note: James 2:24-25 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only. Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent [them] out another way?
At this point, you need faith to be a work!
AGNOSTICEXTREME 6 months ago
I am not a christian or religious, but religion is something personal, and its not open for a debate. If god is real, then god will give you the revelation to believe in it, but you only believe in God with faith, as there is no empirical evidence for gods, so its up to each person to establish what theology they choose to believe in.
KevZen2000 7 months ago
@KevZen2000 Biblical christianity is a personal relationship with the God of the universe whereby we are forgiven of our sins and come to know Him as our Saviour and Redeemer. The God of the Bible says that there is only ONE WAY to know Him, not many ways, and it is thru His Son, Jesus Christ-- John 14:6, Acts 4:12 and 1 Timothy 2:5. All the man made religions in the world are a direct result of each person establishing their own theology.
Religion= Works
Christianity= Divine Accomplishment
ProclaimHisWord 7 months ago
@KevZen2000
ABCDEFGHIJK = Alphabet = communication = Human language
100111 101101 111010 = Binary code = computer language
GTCA AATG TTCA GTTC = DNA CODE = Bio Chemical language
Evidence you ask for and it is evidence you now have. Just walk out your front door and look at creation in all of it billions upon billions upon billions of life forms and EACH with it's own DNA CODE (pre programed information)
All information has a source WITHOUT EXCEPTION.
THERAPTURECOMES 7 months ago
@THERAPTURECOMES. Biological information comes from evolution, which came from cosmic chemistry, by the endless cycles of the universe, of death and rebirth. DNA is not a code, its an arrangement of molecules, which we relate to as a code, but information science, uses computers to define biological matrices. All the way to infinite, energy has always existed, which built the entire universe, by natural means.
KevZen2000 7 months ago
@KevZen2000 You say energy has always existed and this is 'natural' but I ask you, why should there be anything? Why should there be energy instead of nothing? You have a god therefore called 'energy', which is impersonal. If from your name, you are Buddhist, you believe your identity is soon to pass away like a wave coming upon the beach. Jesus wants YOU to be perfected and have eternal life, through faith in Him. You might like my latest video, at the end it speaks of the horror of Nirvana.
Enoch2 7 months ago
@Enoch2. I am not Buddhist, or religious. We do not know about the afterlife, and its best to wait until, we have enough empirical data, to determine what it is. Religion, is faith, you believe, or you do not, so its not something to debate, but ultimately, science will discover what it is, if it does exist. Its best to remain agnostiic on such metaphysical issues, such as the afterlife, and what God would be, if it does exist.
KevZen2000 7 months ago
@Enoch2. Energy has always existed in the universe, in various forms, as stated by the first law of thermodynamics, there is an infinite cycle of death, and rebirth, so its not a question of if the universe, had a beginning, but what has always existed in the universe.
KevZen2000 7 months ago
@KZ Do you know that 'laws' of nature are really just generalizations from human experience? So it is an assumption that laws of nature have always worked the way they do or even that they operate everywhere.
"For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: And he is before all things, and by him all things consist." Col 1:16-17
Enoch2 7 months ago
we are not suppose to practice the mosaic law anymore but we have to keep the ten commandments because it cames from God personally,please keep in mind that God does not change,the world shall pass away but not his words!!!!only 2 %of the christians will be raptured those that kept the ten command