Those disengages across the river, knowing exactly where to go is what makes your style beast. i need to learn those details sir. whoshotyä, glad to be on your team now, thanx!
I am a noob and maybe i ask something stupid, but why you never use aimed shot? or it isnt that patch where you have to cast aimed shot, and u use it as an opener?
What you need to do, is to change that aspect of fox into hawk. Only when you run, use the fox for steady. Whenever you fire something else than steady, change to hawk.
i like how he trys to show hes awesome by fighting 2 at a time, but then he runs away, hey, guess what? im a hunter and i can fight 2 people 2! its not that hard!! u freeze one (or wyvern sting if survival) u crack down on the other and then kill the guy who u froze or wyverned, (thats what u do instead of running away)
@MrRalgoman Well most of hunters fail at kiting that's why u don't see many hunters doing good in arena. Brang did a good job imo, and THANKS BRANG.. you inspiered my playing a hunter. Now I would never go back to my warrior or my dk.
@MrRalgoman i love how when i beat ppl on my hunter they complain by saying shit like ZOMG U RUN LIKE A PUSSY!! and now i hear hunters saying that to themselves!?!? hahahaha.. dw buddy im with u, when i duel warriors i dont kite or in your words: 'run away'.
no, instead i just stand there and melee him like a 'pro'.
is there a macro for using intervene on yourself my hunter is 70 atm and i got crab and intervene like 2 levels ago and if there is a macro to cast it on yourself, would you be so kind to share it with me :) thanks
@MrKhareem In cata there is a new aspect added called ''Aspect of the Fox''.That allows the hunter to cast Cobra/Steady Shot and run at the same time...like Spiritwalker's Grace for shammys but Aspects dont have duration. :)
@sp3ncyboy cobra shot used to be more damaging and still is but that was back when aimed shot was worthless and did nothing so no use in useing steady shot for stacks until they buffed aimed shot thats the whole purpose of steady shot (and focus).
People saying "Aimed this and that" need to jump in a pot , grow the fuck up and pay attention, aimed shot was nere useless at the date of this video, it hit like a wet noodle.
@SientKillah His 2400 rated achievement says he's more than just a 1800 hunter. Also watch his latest arena video. Beating the crap of so called "highly skilled" gladiator players. Including the holy pally from Skill Capped. Don't let his lack of t2 and arena title fool you.
@SientKillah you probably suck too, he would wreck you anytime, Brang is one the top rated hunters on world of warcraft. where's your noteriety? where's your respect?
Brang I know your super busy but your an inspiration for my hunter so if wouldn't mind watching the video i have up and tell me what you think I'd greatly appreciate it.
Tbh I think hes one of the best PvP hunters i've ever seen. Granted I dont keep up to date with any "famous" players, but still its some impressive stuff.
@Karazhanisnubcake Why your even here then if you gonna bash him, yes he makes mistakes but who doesn't. If you think you can do better just watch yourself instead of being a asswipe wasting his time trolling youtube.
@everyone asking to how to play like this, read up some guides and practice, it's not hard. With practice comes skill eventualy.
You play zoomed in, you don't use your spells at the right time. You don't use bartender or someother bar mod (don't necessarly need it but that's because you only have 1/2 the things you need to play a hunter right.
@Keeper01 Hey dude. im a noob at world of warcraft and have just a level 8 only man and im a blood elf. but i wounder. can you get like steel protecion like warriors in a higer level? thanks :D
What I dont Understand is why you dont masters call or deterence or frost trap the warrior? as a hunter, we rape warrior all plates dps accept rest pallies, Idk i thought u were better brang, and why not freezing him when he charges so he cant apply his hampstring then gain some distance, and you barely scatter shot.. -_-
I wonder why he never used aimed shot, he had multiple openings
The few times he froze him with freezing trap were perfect opportunities.
It gives incredible burst damage, and you should use it when given the opportunity.
Plus when he was fighting two druids at the same time I would have spammed the hell out of scare beast.
The Deterrence/scare beast combo always pisses druids off. Since they cannot stop you from finishing the cast (Unless they jump out of their beast form at the last min)
@Ghoffman91 M8 he doesn't use aimed shot becouse pvp fights are really fast, and if u look at hunters it has to be even fast, as a hunter u never stop in a place inuf time to use aimed shot, now what he is doing wrong is to use cobra shot over steady shot, because that way he doesn't get a free aimed shot. also by using cobra shot he is refreshing twice serpent sting because of chimera shot and cobra shot so if ur MM u don't use cobra shot even if cobra does more dmg.
men good video i have hunter stop in dicember because was bad but i go na come back bicause i have hands too love it to kill 3 peoples in the same round jajajajaj
Probably the only thing Steady helps with is the Daze effect, other than that, yeah, it's better to use Cobra on the plates (though prolly not on a DK with AMS up, and I'm wondering if CS' damage is partially resistible by a Pally).
I'm wondering how come you didn't use Roar of Sacrifice though.
Those disengages across the river, knowing exactly where to go is what makes your style beast. i need to learn those details sir. whoshotyä, glad to be on your team now, thanx!
shooshd 1 hour ago
When do you use Steady Shot and when do you use Cobra Shot?
woowyer 1 week ago
@woowyer use them when ur low on focus.steady shot use if u are marksmanship,and cobra shot use when u are survival or beast mastery.
MilanMovies95 3 days ago
I miss the mobility of warriors
punchmonkeywang 2 weeks ago
why dont use deterence ?
Errwin100 2 weeks ago
I am a noob and maybe i ask something stupid, but why you never use aimed shot? or it isnt that patch where you have to cast aimed shot, and u use it as an opener?
godcrokon 3 weeks ago
More pvp bg wideo PLS!!
Akorg123 1 month ago
What you need to do, is to change that aspect of fox into hawk. Only when you run, use the fox for steady. Whenever you fire something else than steady, change to hawk.
Namuuh 1 month ago
Good vid!
But i see your doing lots of bad things. sometimes when you have to chance to use aimed you don't do it.
and i prefer using stead over cobra cuz of the free aimed.
most of the time i hit 30k's.
however thx for vid!!
djmusti7 1 month ago
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Sifreldar 1 month ago
this gay SUCKS biggest crit was 11k and steady shot was the biggest crit on 2k OMG am getting issed just bi looking in Theis NOOB
Hunterfoffo 1 month ago
Да ну нахер вы че....вы считаите он крут ...нуба хант какойта((
Sly2la 1 month ago
I swear that now is bad
jinxtgaming 1 month ago
where i can get that epic bow ? :D
Mud69Pie 2 months ago
Horrible play vs. the warrior
CaptainRainbow3 2 months ago
i like how he trys to show hes awesome by fighting 2 at a time, but then he runs away, hey, guess what? im a hunter and i can fight 2 people 2! its not that hard!! u freeze one (or wyvern sting if survival) u crack down on the other and then kill the guy who u froze or wyverned, (thats what u do instead of running away)
MrRalgoman 3 months ago
@MrRalgoman It's called "kiting". Yep, and I'm the bad hunter around here LOL.
Keeper01 3 months ago 16
@Keeper01 its k bro still es number 1 hunter ever made me level my hunter haters will hate
yeshilovesongs 2 months ago
@MrRalgoman are you fucking retarded!??
XxBiskitsxX 2 months ago
@MrRalgoman Well most of hunters fail at kiting that's why u don't see many hunters doing good in arena. Brang did a good job imo, and THANKS BRANG.. you inspiered my playing a hunter. Now I would never go back to my warrior or my dk.
aleejacopo 2 months ago
@MrRalgoman please shut your mouth and dont dare speak again, nice vid :)
komun1212 2 months ago
@MrRalgoman Lol if you call ''kiting'' running away then you're just another huntard lol...
modestux274 2 months ago in playlist Daugiau Keeper01 vaizdo įrašų
@MrRalgoman i love how when i beat ppl on my hunter they complain by saying shit like ZOMG U RUN LIKE A PUSSY!! and now i hear hunters saying that to themselves!?!? hahahaha.. dw buddy im with u, when i duel warriors i dont kite or in your words: 'run away'.
no, instead i just stand there and melee him like a 'pro'.
zxQUEs 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@zxQUEs LMAO... gud one tho :)
himalkale 1 month ago
@MrRalgoman lol ....before commenting, go and learn ur class ...GTFO
himalkale 1 month ago
@MrRalgoman trollllll GTFO
himalkale 1 month ago
@MrRalgoman Lol x100000
Akorg123 1 month ago
dude u suck at hunter -_-
MrRalgoman 3 months ago
Wow ur awesome, Concussive shot is not good vs melees -.-
WoWMachoMan 3 months ago
@WoWMachoMan If brang read this comment he's gonna cry.
BlueShoeSx 3 months ago
@BlueShoeSx so true xD
himalkale 1 month ago
@WoWMachoMan what?????? o.O
thats the dummest huntard comment i've seen in a long time....
himalkale 1 month ago
Haha nice trap hidding under the dragon
v1d30judg3r 4 months ago
you hit like a little bitch
madsync69 4 months ago
the gnome looks like Corki from LoL
HDapplepie 4 months ago
tips on a 1v1 a fury warrior from mm hunter point of view?
caps305 4 months ago in playlist More videos from Keeper01
your weapon low lvl?
Rirotho 4 months ago
Cool video!Great music!
Fellu1 4 months ago
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May I ask why u are using cobra shot and not Steady shot, U know that u can get an instant aimed shot right, when u got 5 stacks.
fillefjonk12 4 months ago
May I ask why u are using cobra shot and not Steady shot, U know that u can get an instant aimed shot right?
fillefjonk12 4 months ago
Cool
sidismotri 4 months ago
thats when arms warriors were very op and hunters needed a buff......brang did well in the duel out playing him
adamlee2180 4 months ago in playlist More videos from Keeper01
3:38 am and im just cant stop watching this videos...
im like "okay, this is the last one" and then i see other brang video that i didnt watch yet lol
TheGuillote87 5 months ago
Been watching brang since wotlk.
southparkpwnzu 5 months ago
Hey nice video man! :P
check this guys video out :p
/watch?v=0N1c-wnSclw
OleMonkeyBoy21 5 months ago
is there a macro for using intervene on yourself my hunter is 70 atm and i got crab and intervene like 2 levels ago and if there is a macro to cast it on yourself, would you be so kind to share it with me :) thanks
ShawaManzTV 5 months ago in playlist More videos from Keeper01
@ShawaManzTV #showtooltip
/cast [target=your name] Intervene
Peterix13 5 months ago
any one else notice what his bow looks like...
bottleogravedigger 6 months ago
@bottleogravedigger Part of the description saying "using lvl 3 weapons" would like to have a word with you.
Peterix13 6 months ago
world best world of warcraft clicker mckamijan joint his channel
MrAntichannel 6 months ago
@Exploitlol level 3 :)
kuku196 6 months ago
Monkey fudged him up!
llGlazzedll 6 months ago
bad ass. fucking bad asss
ernatzz 6 months ago
bad ass. fucking bad ass
ernatzz 6 months ago
Mrkhareem, aspect of the fox allows u to use that in movement.
Killshot0921 6 months ago
why does he actually can walk/run while he is using steady shot ?? please answer somebody :l
MrKhareem 6 months ago 2
@MrKhareem aspect of the fox
jamal4731 6 months ago
@jamal4731 hmk ty :)
MrKhareem 6 months ago
@MrKhareem Fox aspect
lost91231 4 months ago
@MrKhareem aspect of the fox
HDapplepie 4 months ago
@MrKhareem aspect of the fox
pancakesmasher102 4 months ago
@MrKhareem Aspect of the fox, i belive you get it at level 84. You can run and cast steady shot.
Thesenseoftouchc 4 months ago
@MrKhareem you know u got aspeckets be hunters u get an aspeckt on 85 u can walk and shoot steadyshot
ilzerkudown 4 months ago in playlist Meer video's van Keeper01
@MrKhareem Because its cataclysm and there is a spell called Aspect of the Fox, what lets you to cast steady shot and Cobra shot while you moving.
godcrokon 3 weeks ago
@MrKhareem In cata there is a new aspect added called ''Aspect of the Fox''.That allows the hunter to cast Cobra/Steady Shot and run at the same time...like Spiritwalker's Grace for shammys but Aspects dont have duration. :)
MilanMovies95 3 weeks ago in playlist More videos from Keeper01
@MilanMovies95 ok thanks
MrKhareem 3 weeks ago
@MrKhareem Aspect of the Fox...
CC4375 6 days ago
Lol schaut ma den Bogen an was der hatt
Blackmentall 6 months ago
@Blackmentall Du bist wohl auch einer der die Beschreibung nicht liest - > "I ended up recording my duels with Bazinbear using our lvl 3 weapons."
Terrahamster 6 months ago
that song was on my desk top windows 7 2010 comp lol on my movie maker
darkness200056 7 months ago
how do you get the small map on the lower right at 3:07?
TheWoWwarhead 7 months ago
@TheWoWwarhead shift+m
kfc1008 7 months ago
private
Make0Love 7 months ago
if you were using aspect of the hawk you could have just kited him i do that all the time in 2s when im last alive.
FMblackbird56 7 months ago
why would you be using cobra shot instead of steady shot? whats the difference
sp3ncyboy 7 months ago
@sp3ncyboy cobra shot used to be more damaging and still is but that was back when aimed shot was worthless and did nothing so no use in useing steady shot for stacks until they buffed aimed shot thats the whole purpose of steady shot (and focus).
grizzly9951 7 months ago
is thst bow your best bow? :O or did u not remember to switch back or something, not that good at this anymore..
TrollMcBBQ 7 months ago
@TrollMcBBQ sorry didnt read the discription.
TrollMcBBQ 7 months ago
WoW im sorry to say but I have a MM hunter and is way better then yours
AllthingsWoW1 7 months ago
Brang you should duel Swifty!
danhilz 7 months ago
Seriously. What type of bow is that?
mikemofanboy 7 months ago
is that.. the level 1 bow? lol
Exploitlol 7 months ago
People saying "Aimed this and that" need to jump in a pot , grow the fuck up and pay attention, aimed shot was nere useless at the date of this video, it hit like a wet noodle.
JakyRedEyes 7 months ago 18
@JakyRedEyes thx man =)
Keeper01 7 months ago 5
@JakyRedEyes Never ate wet noodles, are they good? :o
Jesseroxengs 5 months ago
on the first duel you should have used aimed shot when he was freezed for the fisrt time
tzalder 7 months ago
zoom out
awelmann 7 months ago
I dont understand why u pple think he is god? He is a 1800 hunter...
SientKillah 7 months ago
@SientKillah His 2400 rated achievement says he's more than just a 1800 hunter. Also watch his latest arena video. Beating the crap of so called "highly skilled" gladiator players. Including the holy pally from Skill Capped. Don't let his lack of t2 and arena title fool you.
MrTrackBeasts 7 months ago
@SientKillah you probably suck too, he would wreck you anytime, Brang is one the top rated hunters on world of warcraft. where's your noteriety? where's your respect?
Kamalega 7 months ago
Brang I know your super busy but your an inspiration for my hunter so if wouldn't mind watching the video i have up and tell me what you think I'd greatly appreciate it.
NecromimesisHunter 7 months ago
IMO aspect of the fox should work for aimed shot too. Not sure why blizzard decided to screw hunters by making aimed shot a casting shot again
invatorme 7 months ago
So is cobra better than steady against all classes as MM or just plate wearers?
MaWiSl 7 months ago
i like you :) my name is PIVOFIL (drakthul)
stigmawow 7 months ago
So should MM use aimed shot for their opening?
Bosnoger 7 months ago
he doesnt use aimed shot because he isnt a faggot
ChaoticMontages 7 months ago
Is a mm hunters mastery good to stack next to agility?!?!?!?!
malo626 7 months ago
this is one of the most skillest hunter in the wow history!! omg :O
lazerlazy 7 months ago
watch?v=OpbbO8CvO0Y
OleMonkeyBoy21 7 months ago
HURR at people saying aimed shot, it was terrible back in jan. it only got useful in 4.0.6
Shawn10000000 7 months ago
how can you use Steady Shot while walking??? plz reply
Waaromniet111 8 months ago
@Waaromniet111 aspect of fox
KurpanX 8 months ago
fail.... Aimed shot uk right?
kingrico1001 8 months ago
shoulda used shadowmeld as a second feign death
Bubbafett10 8 months ago
funny thing is that u pwned that noob warrior with a grey bow
discostew091 8 months ago
bro nice vid
MrOtterLover 8 months ago
Tbh I think hes one of the best PvP hunters i've ever seen. Granted I dont keep up to date with any "famous" players, but still its some impressive stuff.
TsedioGaming 8 months ago
@Karazhanisnubcake Why your even here then if you gonna bash him, yes he makes mistakes but who doesn't. If you think you can do better just watch yourself instead of being a asswipe wasting his time trolling youtube.
@everyone asking to how to play like this, read up some guides and practice, it's not hard. With practice comes skill eventualy.
CockatooFilms 8 months ago
Im new 85 lvl hunter and i must know how the hell you did parashute jumps
TheDaropionVideos 8 months ago
You play zoomed in, you don't use your spells at the right time. You don't use bartender or someother bar mod (don't necessarly need it but that's because you only have 1/2 the things you need to play a hunter right.
KarazhanIsCake 8 months ago
I just started playing WoW (12 hours played) and i get happy when i get 112 dps :( then i get on and see this guy getting 2.5k D=
rerundadog 8 months ago
can u link armory (:?
didadouwe 8 months ago
How do you get those numbers in your skill bar and how do you get those other squares on top of the skills pls tell me im new and doont know much
467076 8 months ago
I heard some trick is to spam steady shot and if he gets close use disengage and aimed shot
camoflawless52 8 months ago
If u guys do notice he iis using a level 1 bow
LEVEL 1 BOW
look at the bow
hackoner25 8 months ago
@csshelper100 you do know their playing with lvl 3 weapons?
Xesper24 8 months ago
Dude you are playing vs a noob warrior in the start of the video.
csshelper100 8 months ago
retarded game
FOXc09 8 months ago
Whats the best mainhand for hunter (pvp)
XxDejavuzZXx 8 months ago
my brain just crapped itself out of my head:P what does tb stand for?
GrizzlyBearFanatic23 8 months ago
@GrizzlyBearFanatic23 Tol Barad, Lvl 85 Battleground (BG)
Mrwalterdog12 8 months ago
Watch at a new hunter hes called Cypléx, a pretty cool hunter :D
Bramserify 8 months ago
Lol good crits for woltk..
isparto 8 months ago
´low dmg.....
RaiTaiGa 8 months ago
brang were u using a low lvl bow to embras him?
sahal68 8 months ago
yo Brang try this macro i made if you have a spirit beast
/tar (your characters name)
/cast Spirit mend
you have to double click it
and tab to switch back to target :)
MrTehvirus 8 months ago
@MrTehvirus or better yet...
#showtooltip
/cast [target=Brang] Spirit Mend
blackhandgrenade 8 months ago
@blackhandgrenade kool, thx ill try that one out :)
MrTehvirus 8 months ago
@blackhandgrenade Brangtacular macro right here
/cast [target=mouseover,help][target=player] Spirit Mend
Heals on mouseover or yourself if mouse isn't over someone. You're welcome! =)
Keeper01 8 months ago
you know you have aimed shot
turksarejewsbutworse 8 months ago
@turksarejewsbutworse You know you have a brain
Keeper01 8 months ago 30
@Keeper01 Hey dude. im a noob at world of warcraft and have just a level 8 only man and im a blood elf. but i wounder. can you get like steel protecion like warriors in a higer level? thanks :D
xCronicle 7 months ago
@Keeper01 or does he O.o
MyBrett99 7 months ago
@Keeper01 lol sweet bow :P
hunterkiller9991 6 months ago
i dont like it you can be better!
chupetanegra 8 months ago
Now I understand why he said (read before posting) I was wondering why the hell he was hitting like a level 70 for a second there.
oDEADLYPSYCHOo 8 months ago
What I dont Understand is why you dont masters call or deterence or frost trap the warrior? as a hunter, we rape warrior all plates dps accept rest pallies, Idk i thought u were better brang, and why not freezing him when he charges so he cant apply his hampstring then gain some distance, and you barely scatter shot.. -_-
dans0ko12 8 months ago
I love warrios! good job brang and bazinbear
Gardeken 8 months ago
love how those hordies just run by and pretend nth is happening lmao at 8:04
celtic889 8 months ago
@celtic889 Yea when you play this you don't fight in the streets like a dumbass lol
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PRichJames 9 months ago
@ 8:04 " let those retards fight on the road " lol
WoWMage770 9 months ago
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Go BM and tame a spirit beast for self heal :) .
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LiderPotten 9 months ago
I wonder why he never used aimed shot, he had multiple openings
The few times he froze him with freezing trap were perfect opportunities.
It gives incredible burst damage, and you should use it when given the opportunity.
Plus when he was fighting two druids at the same time I would have spammed the hell out of scare beast.
The Deterrence/scare beast combo always pisses druids off. Since they cannot stop you from finishing the cast (Unless they jump out of their beast form at the last min)
Ghoffman91 9 months ago
@Ghoffman91 because you failed to look at the video date.
Keeper01 9 months ago 16
@Keeper01 no clue how you continue to put up with idiots who don't bother to look at dates and repeatedly ask the same questions.
BK07Soccer 9 months ago
@Ghoffman91 M8 he doesn't use aimed shot becouse pvp fights are really fast, and if u look at hunters it has to be even fast, as a hunter u never stop in a place inuf time to use aimed shot, now what he is doing wrong is to use cobra shot over steady shot, because that way he doesn't get a free aimed shot. also by using cobra shot he is refreshing twice serpent sting because of chimera shot and cobra shot so if ur MM u don't use cobra shot even if cobra does more dmg.
Slymasterx 9 months ago
Good to see you again :)
AmazingHardstylezz 9 months ago
brang is back, yeah!
marcoroman123 9 months ago
It Is 4.0.6?
solder1913 9 months ago
Had a great time watching this ... Plz make more..
grarrod 9 months ago
men good video i have hunter stop in dicember because was bad but i go na come back bicause i have hands too love it to kill 3 peoples in the same round jajajajaj
chupetanegra 9 months ago
What addons were u using?
ImEpicwin 9 months ago
your girlfriedn knows about it? xD
DastanHU 9 months ago
hunter goes stealthed in Cataclysm lol patching up to 4.1.0 or 4.0.6
wolfera2 9 months ago
why didnt you pop deterrence
nets117 9 months ago
Nice vid
Blackomega95265 9 months ago
Brangs my favorite hunter :P~
Xternal47 9 months ago
@Niron121
Kauf dirn Keks :)
ChrisBubbleFace 10 months ago
hey brang, just curious on one thing, i only know the old way of MM hunters, is there a reason you're not using a sting?
rammstein433 10 months ago
@rammstein433 Its because its not really worth it in pvp.
The damage it does will remove CC's like scatter shot and Ice Trap.
In pvp its best to refrain from using your dots, you're sacrificing a bit of dps for a lot more control.
and in hunter pvp, control means everything.
Ghoffman91 9 months ago
@rammstein433 but I occasionally like to use snake trap on casters to fuck up their casting a bit, any bit of delay helps.
Ghoffman91 9 months ago
WHY HAVE I NOT SUBSCRIBED YET!
Zombiebuhada 10 months ago
nice video, i gotta do one of my warrior and show ya :)
zombiekid16 10 months ago
wat is d best talent for dps for a orc hunter? is it MM?
Gnomesmashwow 10 months ago
what is the best talent for dps for an orc hunter?
Gnomesmashwow 10 months ago
Brang! I really enjoy watching ur videos, but why are u using cobra shot as MM ?? please tell me, thought steady shot was better as MM
kraks11 10 months ago
1: I set the video on like because the warrior totally owned your ass XD
2: I was afraid cataclysm wouldnt be that interesting considering its 6y old now but yea they made some graphic progress indeed
RobertAniFreak 10 months ago
i must say you play vary well improved from your lvl 80 pvp videos~
MyFriendMyGuardian 10 months ago
Also don't use Snake Trap on warriors. They don't scale so they die easily from a T-clap and the kicker is that it procs Victory Rush lol.
Elementroar 10 months ago
Probably the only thing Steady helps with is the Daze effect, other than that, yeah, it's better to use Cobra on the plates (though prolly not on a DK with AMS up, and I'm wondering if CS' damage is partially resistible by a Pally).
I'm wondering how come you didn't use Roar of Sacrifice though.
Elementroar 10 months ago
hey brang what axes were you using 1:44 . big fan btw! your sick
DRexIzKillin 10 months ago
why thet bow when u whas dueling, but the outher bow in tol barad i think its pwn
lacrosse47 10 months ago
why thet bow its sucks hu? =P