Maybe I'm just crazy, but I like this better than the original. Being able to hear all of the voices so clearly just really brought this piece to life for me
@beatledmack9 Yes I thought that around 7:10 there may have been dubbing. Glenn Gould is one of my favourite pianists and was a genius but he still only had two hands and 10 fingers :)
Nothing against Glenn Gould but this piece just screams out for a full orchestra. Wagner is telling you to draw near and get comfortable because you're in for a GREAT story. The piano version just can't build that anticipation like an orchestra can. Meanwhile, I love to hear Gould play.
agreed, but here it doesn't serve the literal purpose of the 'overture'. There's nothing more coming, it's just the piano and this piece, and that's why it's not so literal a transcription or exact for that matter ( as he says in the video, before proceeding to play it! )
On a serious level, is this possible to play? At various points, for example around 7:10, there are three voices, one very low, one in the middle and the other very high, all quite elaborate. Perhaps he recorded them separately and then combined them?
errr, I'm sure there are bits that are not physically possible to play with only two hands? Around 7:10 for example? Anyway, brilliant music by the greatest pianist in recorded history.
Usually, the more you listen something the more you get bored of it. With this music is the opposite: I really can't stop! When I'm not listening it, I sing it in my head 24/7. This piece really captures the true essence of art, the perfect balance between form and concept, rationality and emotivity. I just love it, it's a drug for my ears!
Agreed what makes me feel ecstatic listening to Wagner is the same as listening to Bach...the counterpoint. The way this deep contrapuntal art sings through all the human drama and lyricism is just breathtaking.
Your logic is sound, except Wagner was a horrible pianist., by his own admission, and actually wrote his incredibly advanced music out on paper without the recourse of a piano.
thing is that it's, because of the nature of the counterpoint, very unpianistic and irritating, in a way. His transcription sounds delightful though, as he says, very original in the sense that it is not so literal. I'd much rather play Gould's transcription than Wagner's.
Maybe I'm just crazy, but I like this better than the original. Being able to hear all of the voices so clearly just really brought this piece to life for me
AbsoluteZ3R0 2 weeks ago
@beatledmack9 Yes I thought that around 7:10 there may have been dubbing. Glenn Gould is one of my favourite pianists and was a genius but he still only had two hands and 10 fingers :)
mattbod 3 weeks ago
Nothing against Glenn Gould but this piece just screams out for a full orchestra. Wagner is telling you to draw near and get comfortable because you're in for a GREAT story. The piano version just can't build that anticipation like an orchestra can. Meanwhile, I love to hear Gould play.
JHJennings 3 months ago
@JHJennings
agreed, but here it doesn't serve the literal purpose of the 'overture'. There's nothing more coming, it's just the piano and this piece, and that's why it's not so literal a transcription or exact for that matter ( as he says in the video, before proceeding to play it! )
FliegendeHollaender 1 week ago
@FliegendeHollaender You're saying this Overture is NOT and overture in this case? Sorry, I can't accept that.
JHJennings 6 days ago
I always admire him. Music is here!!
mozartiikodesu 5 months ago
Does anyone know if Gould wrote down this particular transcription? I found one for the Siegfred Idyll, but I can't seem to find one for the prelude.
sejskk 6 months ago in playlist C Favs
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if you have any luck in your search, I'd very much like it too! :)
FliegendeHollaender 1 week ago
Oh God, his emphasis of the main lines (especially the bass line around 7:05) is magnificent. Gould was truly a superior player and musician.
ymir233 7 months ago
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steamednotfried 10 months ago
On a serious level, is this possible to play? At various points, for example around 7:10, there are three voices, one very low, one in the middle and the other very high, all quite elaborate. Perhaps he recorded them separately and then combined them?
steamednotfried 10 months ago
@steamednotfried Glenn actually had to record an overdub for places like 7:10.
beatlesmack9 9 months ago
errr, I'm sure there are bits that are not physically possible to play with only two hands? Around 7:10 for example? Anyway, brilliant music by the greatest pianist in recorded history.
steamednotfried 10 months ago
anyone have the score?.....
enriquem90 10 months ago
first heard decades ago and still superb!
axelfalk1 11 months ago
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Usually, the more you listen something the more you get bored of it. With this music is the opposite: I really can't stop! When I'm not listening it, I sing it in my head 24/7. This piece really captures the true essence of art, the perfect balance between form and concept, rationality and emotivity. I just love it, it's a drug for my ears!
str3123 1 year ago 2
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str3123 1 year ago
my goodness! never heard like this.GG!
classicon2009 1 year ago
Agreed what makes me feel ecstatic listening to Wagner is the same as listening to Bach...the counterpoint. The way this deep contrapuntal art sings through all the human drama and lyricism is just breathtaking.
Cancrizans 1 year ago
I wish I could hear the orchestra in his head.
composerdoh 1 year ago 6
I have listened to, and played this piece, but I've never heard the independent lines of Wagner's counterpoint this defined, and articulated.
KABRIS1 1 year ago
The best counterpoint since Bach.
KABRIS1 1 year ago 2
YOu can really tell if Gould is into a piece, he likes this piece. Listen to is Chopin and you can hear the difference.
Irshkboy 2 years ago
@Irshkboy Yes, it's true. In a perfect world, he would have played only what he liked.
KABRIS1 1 year ago
Amazing!!!
KABRIS1 2 years ago
great great great
minasgekos 2 years ago
sooooooooooo amazing!!!!!
geecubic 2 years ago
Die Meistersinger sounds beautiful on the piano...
I'm pretty sure Wagner composed his works using a piano so Wagner piano arrangements are going to sound naturally delightful!
BacchusAdoneus 2 years ago 9
Yes, I remember reading that he used to play everything he ever wrote for his dog before he'd let it get published. (Wagner, I mean.)
composerdoh 2 years ago
Your logic is sound, except Wagner was a horrible pianist., by his own admission, and actually wrote his incredibly advanced music out on paper without the recourse of a piano.
keelan111 2 years ago
Wagner didn't really play piano, but his musical counterpoint is so good that it will sound good on a piano, or really anything else for that matter.
Mahlerialiszt 2 years ago
@Mahlerialiszt Wagner did play the piano... He arranged a Beethoven symphony for piano, before Liszt did.
iplongnin 1 year ago
@BacchusAdoneus
thing is that it's, because of the nature of the counterpoint, very unpianistic and irritating, in a way. His transcription sounds delightful though, as he says, very original in the sense that it is not so literal. I'd much rather play Gould's transcription than Wagner's.
FliegendeHollaender 1 week ago
wonderful!!
nyankothecat 2 years ago
GREAT...!!!
sigey1 2 years ago