Look, Kansas City is more of a fun/profit making faire than a historical one. Not to say we don't have eductional aspects (living history tours, torture museum, etc.) but Kansas City is pretty lax with its 'historical accuray' rules. We're allowed to use cotton clothing, electrical devices (hidden from the public's view), and sell products that have no relevance to the Renaissance at all. If you want an 'accurate' faire, try California. In the meantime, give the Rogers a break. They're good.
@mandabunny1 Thank you for your relevant comment. Most fairs or festivals will have, to varying degrees, a historical area clearly marked as such where historical accuracy and reenactment are mandated by the rules. Artifacts, dress, behavior and speech are all expected to portray the period and genre as accurately as is reasonably possible. One of the things about such events is that proper artifacts, dress, behavior and speech varied considerably by time, region, culture, ethnicity and nation.
Yet another version of the West Country favourite "We are Nearing Plymouth Sound", although the speed they sing it at makes it pretty much impossible to put the usual harmonies in the chorus!
Still, a rollicking good performance of a fun song
We don't really have that many references to the uses of sea shanties during the Renaissance besides a few primitive "sing-outs" -- hardly as melodic or well-formed as "Roll The Old Chariot."
Fun performance, yes. But with any possible claim to historical accuracy? No.
It's a Renaissance festival. If they were all about historical accuracy, no one would come. The Rogers sing the song because it's a sea chantey and a crowd pleaser--and crowd pleasing is what they're all about.
Well in my mind the goal of Renaissance fairs should be to educate and not to perpetuate myths, but that's an entirely different discussion.
The real point is that this song has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the Renaissance. "Freebird" is a crowd-pleaser too -- it would make exactly as much sense for them to cover that as it would be to sing this rendition of "Roll The Old Chariot."
The Kansas City Renaissance Festival has plenty of other opportunities to educate. The majority of people come to a RenFest to be entertained. The Jolly Rogers never CLAIMED to be in ANY WAY historically accurate. They're not, and that's part of their fun and charm. They blend the historical with the modern and funny.
Blazhei -- by that logic they could be playing Margaritaville by Jimmy Buffet.
So once again. This type of sea shanty wasn't in usage until about the nineteenth century. The given title mentions Admiral Horatio fucking Nelson for god's sake, and it's performed at a ridiculously breakneck pace that's not so much impractical as impossible. It's a work song, not a drinking song.
Bullshit. The Golden Age of Piracy was long after the Renaissance, and chanteys like this wouldn't be in usage until the nineteenth century. Singing a Jonas Brothers song would be about as equally anachronistic.
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jandocky 2 weeks ago
check out Mad Sea Dog's version.... x
misterbigtown 5 months ago
Check out the Mad Sea Dog version at The Waterman's Arms
misterbigtown 7 months ago
Look, Kansas City is more of a fun/profit making faire than a historical one. Not to say we don't have eductional aspects (living history tours, torture museum, etc.) but Kansas City is pretty lax with its 'historical accuray' rules. We're allowed to use cotton clothing, electrical devices (hidden from the public's view), and sell products that have no relevance to the Renaissance at all. If you want an 'accurate' faire, try California. In the meantime, give the Rogers a break. They're good.
mandabunny1 1 year ago
@mandabunny1 Thank you for your relevant comment. Most fairs or festivals will have, to varying degrees, a historical area clearly marked as such where historical accuracy and reenactment are mandated by the rules. Artifacts, dress, behavior and speech are all expected to portray the period and genre as accurately as is reasonably possible. One of the things about such events is that proper artifacts, dress, behavior and speech varied considerably by time, region, culture, ethnicity and nation.
jalind1 6 months ago
Yet another version of the West Country favourite "We are Nearing Plymouth Sound", although the speed they sing it at makes it pretty much impossible to put the usual harmonies in the chorus!
Still, a rollicking good performance of a fun song
John
Plymouth, UK
johnrorange 2 years ago
I think it is a really bit to fast
but i come from the netherlands
anubisibunanubis 2 years ago
We don't really have that many references to the uses of sea shanties during the Renaissance besides a few primitive "sing-outs" -- hardly as melodic or well-formed as "Roll The Old Chariot."
Fun performance, yes. But with any possible claim to historical accuracy? No.
StatenIslandFolkie 2 years ago
It's a Renaissance festival. If they were all about historical accuracy, no one would come. The Rogers sing the song because it's a sea chantey and a crowd pleaser--and crowd pleasing is what they're all about.
SI3CGinMON 2 years ago 3
Well in my mind the goal of Renaissance fairs should be to educate and not to perpetuate myths, but that's an entirely different discussion.
The real point is that this song has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the Renaissance. "Freebird" is a crowd-pleaser too -- it would make exactly as much sense for them to cover that as it would be to sing this rendition of "Roll The Old Chariot."
StatenIslandFolkie 2 years ago
The Kansas City Renaissance Festival has plenty of other opportunities to educate. The majority of people come to a RenFest to be entertained. The Jolly Rogers never CLAIMED to be in ANY WAY historically accurate. They're not, and that's part of their fun and charm. They blend the historical with the modern and funny.
SI3CGinMON 2 years ago 5
Blazhei -- by that logic they could be playing Margaritaville by Jimmy Buffet.
So once again. This type of sea shanty wasn't in usage until about the nineteenth century. The given title mentions Admiral Horatio fucking Nelson for god's sake, and it's performed at a ridiculously breakneck pace that's not so much impractical as impossible. It's a work song, not a drinking song.
StatenIslandFolkie 2 years ago
This song has absolutely nothing to do at all with either pirates or the Renaissance.
StatenIslandFolkie 2 years ago
Drinking. Yes it does.
Blazhei 2 years ago
Bullshit. The Golden Age of Piracy was long after the Renaissance, and chanteys like this wouldn't be in usage until the nineteenth century. Singing a Jonas Brothers song would be about as equally anachronistic.
StatenIslandFolkie 2 years ago
Still about drinking. Ergo, relevant. Alcohol is timeless -_____-
Blazhei 2 years ago 2
Yes it does. It's a sea chantey.
SI3CGinMON 2 years ago
These guys are brilliant!
NotaCapn 3 years ago 2
Kansas City
LaniChan32 3 years ago
woot. I love this song. I have it on my MP3 player.
FunnyByDefinition 4 years ago
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kansas city ive went there every year for a while
killerpenguin2 4 years ago
there's going to be another band there this year, pog mo thon, who does this song. it's a great song
lozeldatkm 4 years ago
They look like so much fun...
XombiePuma 4 years ago 2