Old Walt Disney Commercials were twice better than nowadays's,I think it brought more attention to the viewers,it looks more like a fairytale,which makes it suitable for children
@adlereagle123 I'm sure you've seen creepier commercials, but keep in mind that this is a commercial for Disney World, which is insanely kid-friendly. This commercial is kind of like an acid trip.
@QueenAnime99 this is what TV was like back then, there wasn't special animation , they only had people dress up in costumes. Now the generation seeing that now -a - days its just creepy haha, idk it wasn't that creepy to me. ;P
@adlereagle123 I've seen some commercials from this time period so I am familiar with them. I just find this one a tad bit creepy and acid tripper-y. But I can understand if one doesn't find it creepy. Good day. :D
MuuuaaaHAAAAA! the Disney...amusement park has always been celebrated for its excellence. There is a California park by Walt Disney inspired by that same American excellence.
@moviesperson100001 I think the advert should have had more than one breif shot of park footage. It was just a girl lost in the forrest with creepy shit. People could have gotten the wrong impression and thought Disneyland was actually that crappy.
@horrorjunkie92 It's the one in Florida!! I thought you were mentioning the one in California since you said Disneyland!!! The one in Florida is Walt Disney World Resort, and the one in California in Disneyland Resort!!!!
Were the people who created this ad on drugs??? How could they think this would attract children to DisneyWorld? IF anything, it would scare them away!!
After Walt's death, His brother Roy, a banker, came out of retirement to become the "Man behind the magic." He took on the project full force, from start to finish. After completion of WDW, Roy decided to change the name from "disney World" to "Walt Disney World" in honor of Walt's legacy.
The Florida project was mainly about Walt's vision of a conceptual city of the future. Today, that is almost the case with EPCOT. Although EPCOT is not what Walt envisioned. It wasn't until 1995 that The Walt Disney Company built Celebration,Fl. A sort-of version of the original EPCOT plan. I actually have a house there, as well as one in NJ, and it truly is a wonderful town.
@captainconnorsaurus. haha i know wht u mean. i used to live in disney and go like more than once a month. but i jst recently moved and i miss it so much already. im going back for a weekend like in a week :) so excited
@CaptainConnorsaurus How can Disneyworld be the best created? if it wasnt for disneyland, world wouldnt exist. Disney himself didnt even have anything to do with world. DW is just the imitation. Land is the authentic park
@vladradforpres5 actually, i believe he had quite a bit to do with it. he inspected the site, purchased the land, made all the calls, and made all the designs. of course he died before it was finished, and the new owners of the company made changes, but he was involved quite a bit. and i get what you're saying, it DOES have a bit more of an authentic feel, but world just kicks lands ass imo.
@vladradforpres5 WRONG! Walt Disney World was Walt Disney's ultimate dream. He completely planned all of it. From buying all that land in central florida to pretty much getting his way with having complete autonomy from state and local laws. It is litterally his WORLD. Sure he died before it completed, but he saw most of it get done. He made sure that WDW would be 10 times better, and bigger than Disneyland.
@tvgator1 You do realize that in general both disneyworld and disneyland isnt really what walt visioned. He died before all of the main attractions that most people go to disneyland and disneyworld was made, such as space mountain, thunder mountain, splash mountain, etc.
@iLOVEthe80TWILIGHT13 I have wanted to go to New York since I came to the US! I def want to go on my own when I turn 18, im just a little afraid because I don't wanna wind up in the wrong neighborhood.
@TheGeorgianskater Oh it's really not that bad. I mean, once you get used to city-life and all. I used to live there but I moved when I was 11. I'm 14 now. But yeah NYC is amazing.
And now, for the catagory: Not meant to be scary, but terrirfying as HELL!
And the nominees are: 1971 Disney/Eastern Airlines commercial, Monkey with the clapping cymbals toy and Herbie Hancocks "Rockit" video. And the winner is..................
Haha.....i saw old vid. from the 81....even ten years after this commercial the characters are freaky looking...at least they look normal now. Omg, pooh was the scariest, he was HUGE!
if i don't remember those creepy images today i'll remember them maybe tomorrow or maybe the day after that and when i do i'll remember them for the rest of my life
that is kinda freakey with the big head's why couldn't it be small heads to huge ones and i nearly scared to death with dumbo then but its is a little bit scary
this is really creepy hahah for a disney world commercial. and the girl asks dopey for the way.. bright kid hahaha. at least it ends pretty happily, i guess lol
I know this is really old and they were obviously playing on Alice in Wonderland, but it is kinda creepy. Did they think characters with gigantic heads popping out behind trees would really make kids want to go there? I would have been terrified if I'd seen the commercial as a child. It's kinda funny though.
omg I swear, (ive been looking through the comments) people make up, interprit things wrongly, and overly dramatise things against Disney. Go to any other park and you'll experience worse! and then if somethig dose happen the familey is taken backstage and complain that he actor in the suites did not have their heads on... while their backstage. People who pick fights with disney are stupid and imature and just want attention.
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I am an Arab man. I brought my family over from Pakistan to enjoy the American experience at Disneyland. The man at the gate said No Arabs allowed! He then roughly stepped on my foot and security came out. Fuck you Walt Disney!
She was on L, her pupil was gigantic!!
axelmowmers 4 days ago
Oh my God. Why the heck do they have a blonde Peter Pan in this video!?
Who cares, I love Peter Pan
elvis4ever1935 6 days ago
The thing at 0:16 always scared me when I was younger . I think it's just the way it's tongue always hung out.
TheGiverOfDarkness22 3 weeks ago
I don't think it was supossed to be scary, I mean, c'mon! I'ts Disney! I think it just came off as a little creepy, that's all.
TheChristianDrummer3 3 weeks ago
Tht commercial kinda scurred me :(
TheJessa1217 1 month ago
Old Walt Disney Commercials were twice better than nowadays's,I think it brought more attention to the viewers,it looks more like a fairytale,which makes it suitable for children
mabelxxxbsb 3 months ago
Accidental Nightmare Fuel...
Thoralmir 3 months ago
It wasn't scary it was supposed to be cute.
MichaelVitello 4 months ago 2
Wait...the Walrus had a costume!? D: Why have I not known about this till now!?
Alexhikari 5 months ago
"Do you know the way to the MAGIC KINGDOM?"
"Sure I do..."
*STAB
xxxXNikitaChaseXxxx 5 months ago 4
This is kinda sad for some reason...
Fragglevision 6 months ago
oh my god, mad hat makes scary in this commercial XS
IssaKheelinCeles94 6 months ago
The Walrus? Wow! I wouldn't mind getting a pic with HIM!
DeuceyDee 6 months ago
kinda creepy
NightfallIV 6 months ago
That announcer sounded a lot like Orson Welles. Can anybody confirm that?
SVB2002 6 months ago
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JOHNNYBIX38 6 months ago
Eastern Air Lines was a major United States airline that existed from 1926 to 1991.
Oh thank god, no more commercials from these guys.
Fieldofgoats 6 months ago
is that Gretel from the Sound of music??
gummi7 7 months ago
Dayum that advert is so dark and creepy!
Who would take there kids there after seeing that!?
popcorntommy 7 months ago
it wasnt that creepy guys , cmon' ive seen creepier commercials before, this wasnt creepy at all lol
adlereagle123 8 months ago
@adlereagle123 I'm sure you've seen creepier commercials, but keep in mind that this is a commercial for Disney World, which is insanely kid-friendly. This commercial is kind of like an acid trip.
QueenAnime99 7 months ago
@QueenAnime99 this is what TV was like back then, there wasn't special animation , they only had people dress up in costumes. Now the generation seeing that now -a - days its just creepy haha, idk it wasn't that creepy to me. ;P
adlereagle123 6 months ago
@adlereagle123 I've seen some commercials from this time period so I am familiar with them. I just find this one a tad bit creepy and acid tripper-y. But I can understand if one doesn't find it creepy. Good day. :D
QueenAnime99 6 months ago
@QueenAnime99 lol you too, I'm gonna send you a YouTube friend request (:
adlereagle123 6 months ago
@adlereagle123 Thanks. Okay. I'll look out for it. :D
QueenAnime99 6 months ago
I wonder how WDW patrons would react to the Big Bad Wolf nowadays...
holbrooke7 8 months ago
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It's not really scary to me.
zingarzahoy26 8 months ago
It's not really sca
zingarzahoy26 8 months ago
hypnotizing
kermitdefrog123 8 months ago
I'm thinking the girl in this video is Jodie Foster right?
MicahLuvFun26 9 months ago
0:50
OH GOD, 9/11 COMING RIGHT AT YOU.
Shellblossom 10 months ago
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Shellblossom 10 months ago
So she totally freaks out when she sees a walking elephant!
Kartoonkid95 10 months ago
@Kartoonkid95 i think that was Dumbo
adlereagle123 8 months ago
That is freaky
nutballgazette 11 months ago
That is Orson Welles!!!!
kevo1296 1 year ago
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JOHNNYBIX38 6 months ago
Dick's house is better...
hodoboc 1 year ago 14
@hodoboc What is Dick's house? lol..
charrr550 1 year ago
@hodoboc Holy crap, SHUT UP!!
juneradar 6 months ago
@hodoboc i always see the dick's house on every comment cause of that vid
dramagirl567 1 week ago
DAMN! Thems costumes are scurry!!!
xXDeadToastXx 1 year ago
Am I crazy, or did that sound like Orson Welles at the end?
seatspud 1 year ago
glad i wasn't high or it be trippy as fuck
TwiztedMannix87 1 year ago
I'm booking a surprise for my family I did my research at bestvaluethemeparks (.) com
happydancer62 1 year ago
dont talk to strangers especialy if theyre in the woods fhkn
slicetwiceknife 1 year ago
.... said lil red riding hood's mum.
mikethemike232 1 year ago
MuuuaaaHAAAAA! the Disney...amusement park has always been celebrated for its excellence. There is a California park by Walt Disney inspired by that same American excellence.
demoman87 1 year ago
SO glad they fixed the mad hatter!
cheerandfluvit 1 year ago
this reminds me of snow white
IJDS99 1 year ago
Why would they make it that creppy? xD
horrorjunkie92 1 year ago
@horrorjunkie92 well, i'm sure it wasn't creepy for that time.
moviesperson100001 1 year ago
@moviesperson100001 I think the advert should have had more than one breif shot of park footage. It was just a girl lost in the forrest with creepy shit. People could have gotten the wrong impression and thought Disneyland was actually that crappy.
horrorjunkie92 1 year ago
@horrorjunkie92 and btw, this is a commercial for walt disney world not disneyland.
moviesperson100001 1 year ago
@moviesperson100001 Is that the one in FL? Because that's what I was thinking of.
horrorjunkie92 1 year ago
@horrorjunkie92 It's the one in Florida!! I thought you were mentioning the one in California since you said Disneyland!!! The one in Florida is Walt Disney World Resort, and the one in California in Disneyland Resort!!!!
moviesperson100001 1 year ago
@moviesperson100001 I've always referred to both as "Disneyland". Bad habbit I guess.
horrorjunkie92 1 year ago
This would make me want to go there XD
thedragoonknight 1 year ago
that was waaay creepy
DisneyLover61605 1 year ago
The Wings of Man
TheRandomCritic4265 1 year ago
ITS ALICE!
CosplayCore 1 year ago
HA! Is Eastern Airlines still the official airline of Disney???
OctoberLandon 1 year ago
WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO DOPEY'S FACE?!?!?! IT LOOKS LIKE A SMASHED POTATO!!!!!
TheRandomCritic4265 1 year ago
@TheRandomCritic4265 that the 70's for yeah pal
brb1006 1 year ago
Were the people who created this ad on drugs??? How could they think this would attract children to DisneyWorld? IF anything, it would scare them away!!
sweetlilchickie1985 1 year ago
After Walt's death, His brother Roy, a banker, came out of retirement to become the "Man behind the magic." He took on the project full force, from start to finish. After completion of WDW, Roy decided to change the name from "disney World" to "Walt Disney World" in honor of Walt's legacy.
mrwaltdisneyworldfan 1 year ago
The Florida project was mainly about Walt's vision of a conceptual city of the future. Today, that is almost the case with EPCOT. Although EPCOT is not what Walt envisioned. It wasn't until 1995 that The Walt Disney Company built Celebration,Fl. A sort-of version of the original EPCOT plan. I actually have a house there, as well as one in NJ, and it truly is a wonderful town.
mrwaltdisneyworldfan 1 year ago
THIS IS A AD FOR AN AIRLINE. EASTERN AIRLINES
utubeguy35 1 year ago
Happy Halloween.
ehiggin 1 year ago
Imagine if during DIsney World's 40th anniversary, they remake this commercial with a live girl meeting (less scary) animated characters.
dsneybuf 1 year ago
@dsneybuf Thatd be pretty beast...
alex19330 1 year ago
lol FAIL
ngames1 1 year ago
this scary. the mans voice at the end is scarier!
KittyHelloKat 1 year ago
@KittyHelloKat
the guy at the end is Orsen Wells. He was a great actor and did a lot of voice over stuff for disney. He ans Walt were good friends
booty5584 1 year ago
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JOHNNYBIX38 6 months ago
How is this scary again? I love Disney I go Almost once a month maybe more wat a classic :)
latinababy1000 1 year ago
This commercial is classic!!!!
I love it!
13blkdiva 1 year ago
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its not creepy..but the narrator at the end is..
slbebe 1 year ago
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its not creepy..but the narrator at the end is..
slbebe 1 year ago
its not creepy..but the narrator at the end is..
slbebe 1 year ago 2
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xThatOneNurdx 1 year ago
does anyone else think this video is creepy
wickedkid905 1 year ago 14
Walter Disney's world is the best ever created. im goin to epcot in like a month for spring break, disney world ftw.
CaptainConnorsaurus 1 year ago 2
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tht sux actually. its always soo crowded for spring break tht u cnt go on anything
gdwtwilight 1 year ago
@gdwtwilight haha, i havent been in such a long time that i dont really care. itll be fun just to be there again C:
CaptainConnorsaurus 1 year ago
@captainconnorsaurus. haha i know wht u mean. i used to live in disney and go like more than once a month. but i jst recently moved and i miss it so much already. im going back for a weekend like in a week :) so excited
gdwtwilight 1 year ago
@CaptainConnorsaurus How can Disneyworld be the best created? if it wasnt for disneyland, world wouldnt exist. Disney himself didnt even have anything to do with world. DW is just the imitation. Land is the authentic park
vladradforpres5 1 year ago
@vladradforpres5 actually, i believe he had quite a bit to do with it. he inspected the site, purchased the land, made all the calls, and made all the designs. of course he died before it was finished, and the new owners of the company made changes, but he was involved quite a bit. and i get what you're saying, it DOES have a bit more of an authentic feel, but world just kicks lands ass imo.
CaptainConnorsaurus 1 year ago
@vladradforpres5 WRONG! Walt Disney World was Walt Disney's ultimate dream. He completely planned all of it. From buying all that land in central florida to pretty much getting his way with having complete autonomy from state and local laws. It is litterally his WORLD. Sure he died before it completed, but he saw most of it get done. He made sure that WDW would be 10 times better, and bigger than Disneyland.
tvgator1 1 year ago
@tvgator1 You do realize that in general both disneyworld and disneyland isnt really what walt visioned. He died before all of the main attractions that most people go to disneyland and disneyworld was made, such as space mountain, thunder mountain, splash mountain, etc.
fatboytjc 1 year ago
0:11 freaks me out the most! lol but i love Disney world but yeah this advert is just a bit too creepy ;p
TheAlaskaTiger 1 year ago
man this IS scary
donnyP3216 1 year ago
holy shit... lmao
ItsUrFavoriteGuy 2 years ago
that is some seriously scary shit. peter pan is like evil.
moviekid1 2 years ago
yeah i think if i saw that when i was little i wouldve cried haha
TheRoxy0310 2 years ago
k if i was a kid that would not make me wanna go to disney thats some scary shit lmaoo
danii421 2 years ago
*in a deadly serious voice*
You can fly.
cracks me up everytime.
SuppScott 2 years ago
Oh dear god.
ScorpiusLord3636 2 years ago 3
this is a frightening commercial, but WDW is the best place on the face of the earth, NO CONTEST!
TheGeorgianskater 2 years ago 2
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iLOVEthe80TWILIGHT13 2 years ago
@TheGeorgianskater Second best-next to NYC
iLOVEthe80TWILIGHT13 2 years ago
@iLOVEthe80TWILIGHT13 I have wanted to go to New York since I came to the US! I def want to go on my own when I turn 18, im just a little afraid because I don't wanna wind up in the wrong neighborhood.
TheGeorgianskater 2 years ago
@TheGeorgianskater Oh it's really not that bad. I mean, once you get used to city-life and all. I used to live there but I moved when I was 11. I'm 14 now. But yeah NYC is amazing.
iLOVEthe80TWILIGHT13 2 years ago
And just when you think it can't get any creepier, THE VOICE OF ORSON WELLES!!! Magnificent.
EvilUncleFrank 2 years ago
00:11- 00:13 HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
TheRandomCritic4265 2 years ago 2
And now, for the catagory: Not meant to be scary, but terrirfying as HELL!
And the nominees are: 1971 Disney/Eastern Airlines commercial, Monkey with the clapping cymbals toy and Herbie Hancocks "Rockit" video. And the winner is..................
nostalgiajunkie70 2 years ago 3
and now for the douchy comment category: nostalgiajunkie70
chazratm 2 years ago 10
Haha.....i saw old vid. from the 81....even ten years after this commercial the characters are freaky looking...at least they look normal now. Omg, pooh was the scariest, he was HUGE!
HiddenxxMickey 2 years ago
THIS IS SO DISTURBING!!!!
:O
DisneyMissieMouse 2 years ago 2
This is the best place to be!
love disney always :)
NewMuffaniaStar 2 years ago 3
random lawlrus at 0:21
SuppScott 2 years ago
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SuppScott 2 years ago
38 Years Ago Today The Magic Kingdom Park & Walt Disney World Resort Opened In Florida!
Screech1920 2 years ago 5
welp.....im gonna have nightmares tonight.
etanallik 2 years ago 2
orson wells lol!
moviesmovies1 2 years ago
nobody wasn't on drugs.
and wtf is "the wings of man" >>
alexp9999 2 years ago 5
WHOA, that was freaky beyond belief! What was with the Big Bad Wolf coming out and doing that creepy laugh?!?!
img921 2 years ago 19
@img921 If that wasn't enough, can I suggest looking for my video (type in 'Zeke Midas Wolf's laugh').
Eddy2730 9 months ago
too creepy to be disney lol
nick198222 2 years ago 6
HOLY CRAP! Those early character costumes were creepy as hell!
Thank god they shrank the heads now.
BlueDragon992 2 years ago 6
I know did u see the Mad Hatter
jakecasper 2 years ago 4
Creepy, just plain ole creepy.
inadiaxue 2 years ago 3
I am amazed they ever got anyone to visit!
walkerjusty 2 years ago 4
if i don't remember those creepy images today i'll remember them maybe tomorrow or maybe the day after that and when i do i'll remember them for the rest of my life
carbonply 2 years ago
0:18
HOLY CRAP!!
MegaAdam1000 2 years ago
"Can you fly?"
"No"
"Goddamn it!"
TheDeadDeadsons 2 years ago 4
creepy......
arrielleee 2 years ago 2
geeeeezis O.O
donaldTfox 2 years ago 3
I dare you to find a better example of how much Disney struggled under Ron Miller.
dsneybuf 2 years ago 2
0:13, with the music, expression, and everything, is incredibly horrifying.
kmayy137 2 years ago 5
OH! SO I GET IT! if you parent's don't take you to Disney World, you'll be trapped in a forest of Disney characters! Sounds like fun!
Hypnotoad27 2 years ago 36
@Hypnotoad27 lol i guess im in one right now XD
Funmusichits 11 months ago
It is a bit scary..... thank God the costumes have changed!!!!
chrissymee 2 years ago 24
you are very right
GNRfan97 2 years ago 3
Well, if you consider how dolls and teddy bears looked in the early 20th century, you'd think these costumes are adorable.
HoshiHikari 2 years ago 6
oh yeah
theminidevil22 2 years ago
so.....surreal.....
Ricardito5579 2 years ago 2
that is very truly creepy
Disneypark101 2 years ago 2
Is that Orson Welles doing the narration at the end?
ronatie 2 years ago 2
sounds just like him
brico29 2 years ago 2
Eastern Airlines is going to be strong forever...but a theme park about disney? That could NEVER work
tomgalicia 2 years ago 6
i hope you're being sarcastic because disney is one of the biggest and most sucsessful resort theme parks in the world.
beale081 2 years ago 2
Obviously he was being sarcastic!
Unless he lives in another planet...
migaucha81 2 years ago 4
@beale081 it is THE biggest and most successful resort and theme park in the world.
CaptainConnorsaurus 1 year ago 2
@CaptainConnorsaurus Disney world is just an imitation.
vladradforpres5 1 year ago
weird
callygirl567 2 years ago 3
wings of man
jakecasper 2 years ago
weird so
jakecasper 2 years ago
they changed the mad hatter's costume
jakecasper 2 years ago 2
That's kinda creepy. But I guess back then it was cool.
It's cute tho
Lisax312 2 years ago 2
haha omg this is soooo alice in wonderland!! haha yeah its kinda creepy but really brings out the magic of disney.
13Elphaba13 2 years ago 3
lol creepy commerical but the kids pretty cute.
fieldofstorms 2 years ago 3
i agree with u nicocrazy26 very scary! -shivers-
beastboy811 2 years ago
God :s that"s a scary commercial lol
nicocrazy26 3 years ago 4
i remember this commercial. It was a big deal when Disneyworld opened, and it wasn't scary then. Orson Welles does the narration at the end.
MoontideJM 3 years ago
that is kinda freakey with the big head's why couldn't it be small heads to huge ones and i nearly scared to death with dumbo then but its is a little bit scary
fat21s 3 years ago
ahhhh! its the poltergeist.ahhh!call 911.lol rotflol lmao rotflmao.
gsimons3 3 years ago 2
Holy shit that scares the piss out of me!!!!
spideylover 3 years ago
This would be a creepy horror flick.. XD
IyagaruUzumaki 3 years ago
this is really creepy hahah for a disney world commercial. and the girl asks dopey for the way.. bright kid hahaha. at least it ends pretty happily, i guess lol
learningfromlyrics 3 years ago 10
I know this is really old and they were obviously playing on Alice in Wonderland, but it is kinda creepy. Did they think characters with gigantic heads popping out behind trees would really make kids want to go there? I would have been terrified if I'd seen the commercial as a child. It's kinda funny though.
sstall23 3 years ago 9
omg I swear, (ive been looking through the comments) people make up, interprit things wrongly, and overly dramatise things against Disney. Go to any other park and you'll experience worse! and then if somethig dose happen the familey is taken backstage and complain that he actor in the suites did not have their heads on... while their backstage. People who pick fights with disney are stupid and imature and just want attention.
destinyislandgirl 3 years ago
when the wolf came out i thought she was gonna get raped
ShiznitXD 3 years ago
what the fuck?!?
eckoboy17856 3 years ago
Heheheh back when the dwarfs had gigantic heads!
BamaJen 3 years ago
well it's not scary for me, it's kind of weird x_X
Agente00Minina 3 years ago
lol !!
pescadi 3 years ago
Goofy was pretty creppy in 1970's
DenisAndrejev 3 years ago
Wow, this commercial is creepy because its old. I want to go there.
trooper69pj 3 years ago
:37-:40, creepy
cheerandfluvit 3 years ago
"The Wings Of Man"...
Wow... That must probably be one of the lamest sayings in the history of commercials...
SverreSA 3 years ago
im going in 2 days and 4 my birthday!! lol
disneyworldrox 3 years ago
acid trip hahaha
border6801 3 years ago
"Do you know the way to the magic kingdom?"
"Sure I do. But, can you fly-iy-iy-iy-iy-iy-iy-iy-iy-iy..."
Jesus Murphy. This commercial is the Apocalypse.
Anticyclonic 3 years ago
I want Walt to still be alive. D:
I LOVE WALT DISNEY AND HIS WORLD. <3
xcloudxburstx 3 years ago 6
was that orson welles?
quietrobert03 3 years ago
haha creeeppyyy.
but cool :D
broadwaylove52 3 years ago
I dont get it!!!
teddymadderpadder69 3 years ago
Nothing scary about this. Great memories!
BillVol 3 years ago 2
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I am an Arab man. I brought my family over from Pakistan to enjoy the American experience at Disneyland. The man at the gate said No Arabs allowed! He then roughly stepped on my foot and security came out. Fuck you Walt Disney!
powerfullogic 3 years ago