alot of people can win a match with zangief...stop focusing on the winning and focus on overall gameplay...the game is not balanced...PERIOD...great Gouken siyko
My two favourite characters. So happy_^) You should try experimenting with his air hurricane kick. If you do it fast enough right after a jump it can catch people off guard and move very quickly across after you move through them. I'm still experimenting on it myself ;p
I'm talking about linking FROM dive kick INTO at LEAST a crouching HP, which allows for a some time for hit confirmation which can go into ex palm, instead of a jab, *genius*
I said crouching HP not dive kick, learn to read, and what I'm pointing out is clearly seen at several points, 1:09 you hit but went into jab, why?
2:29 again you landed but still with the jabs, why?
3:39 again you landed but you couldn't even link into a jab, which has 4 frame startup compared to 6 frame crouching which would STILL link no matter what FROM the demon kick, like I said, you don't go for big dmg combos, just little pokes and those linking opportunities would have helped you win.
I wasn't walking to you in the first place, I was talking to the audience who were watching your vids but you just decided to yourself that you will take my comments to heart for yourself and answer them as if I directed them to you, and the question is not if they are useful, because they are very useful, it's whether or not you know them, and I don't really care if YOU know them because I'm posting tips for EVERYONE to see, not just you, you're not THAT important.
It's for the youtube community to improve, they see how you play, they see my tips on THIS VIDEO, I repeat THIS VIDEO and they'll know what's going on and how it can be improved, it's not your fault for acting so angry and implying more things than there are, if you don't want the community to see how you play and improve themselves then I don't see why you bother posting videos.
im pretty sure most people (atleast i hope so) understand the character isnt cheap, its just pent up frustration coming out of someones mouth (fingers)
i have to admit i have reacted in such a manner before :) but its just venting
There is no such thing as a 'CHEAP' character, there are just tactics that you can't get around and get frustrated... its much easier to call someone/character cheap than to learn their weaknesses... basically there is a word that would describe those who call any tactic cheap... starts with a N ends with a B?... anyone?
If u say Zangief is a cheap char, try to do his ult, without jumping... Tacchi ultimate atomic buster... after u manage to do this, try to pop it anytime ingame, to counter moves, then if easy ult setup Ryu/Sagat players, u can say Zangief is a cheap char, otherwise u should be quiter...
I strongly disagree. Gouken is a much "cheaper" character than Zangief. Like Gouki you can sit there all day and throw fireballs.
I've played against Goukens that spammed fireballs all match long for the win. To top it off he can deflect moves.
There's a reason Gouken is banned from some tournaments.
Yea Zangief has a lariat, but there's nothing he can do unless he's an inch away from you. He has no projectile, he's slow as a turtle, and he does not have a cannon ball move.
That Gouken was obviously the better player, although a few mistakes made.
Destruction3402 4 months ago
0:37
Bison: NOOOOOOO!
Fulgore2005 1 year ago
Someone move that food cart before some huge russian dude lands on it!
ghostdoghaelo 1 year ago
You're a beast man; Gouken is such an awesome, underplayed Shotokan.
EddieLowFilthSlayer 1 year ago
don't wanna see no blood don't be a macho man. you wanna be tough better do what you can and beat it.
RruuhzyA 1 year ago
Throwing a fireball is normally a bad start to a fight with geif.
That and gief needs to be nerfed. Totally unbalanced. Hopefully that gets fixed in SSF4.
jontheplatypus 2 years ago
@jontheplatypus no Gief is fine as he is
baderhhh 1 year ago
With Gouken's fist to his chin, Zangief sure did look like Bluto for a second.
SeoulMan 2 years ago
lol 2:18 is that darksydephil?
killakev128 2 years ago
siyko has a sick gouken, but this gief is scrub.
Ssaico1 2 years ago
Well, somehow he won the match...
EvilRyuGuy 2 years ago
alot of people can win a match with zangief...stop focusing on the winning and focus on overall gameplay...the game is not balanced...PERIOD...great Gouken siyko
Flintc08 2 years ago
Don't exagerate. It's not like this is mvc2. A scrub Gief can't beat a skilled player.
EvilRyuGuy 2 years ago
@Ssaico1 no gief is totaly fine and balanced
baderhhh 1 year ago
My two favourite characters. So happy_^) You should try experimenting with his air hurricane kick. If you do it fast enough right after a jump it can catch people off guard and move very quickly across after you move through them. I'm still experimenting on it myself ;p
Toomnyusernae 2 years ago
I notice this gouken rarely EVER goes for the big dmg palm combos even when there's a possible link from a hit, he just goes into the jab string.
Nvoy123 2 years ago
nothing can link into palm except dive kick, genius
Siyko 2 years ago
I'm talking about linking FROM dive kick INTO at LEAST a crouching HP, which allows for a some time for hit confirmation which can go into ex palm, instead of a jab, *genius*
Nvoy123 2 years ago
so you're agreeing with me. Well done.
Siyko 2 years ago
I said crouching HP not dive kick, learn to read, and what I'm pointing out is clearly seen at several points, 1:09 you hit but went into jab, why?
2:29 again you landed but still with the jabs, why?
3:39 again you landed but you couldn't even link into a jab, which has 4 frame startup compared to 6 frame crouching which would STILL link no matter what FROM the demon kick, like I said, you don't go for big dmg combos, just little pokes and those linking opportunities would have helped you win.
Nvoy123 2 years ago
again at 4:03, that one would have won the game for you
Nvoy123 2 years ago
You're giving me advice on this? Really?
The game came out on console with this character - this being my first time ever playing SF4. A month later, this is my gameplay.
Now, FOUR MONTHS later, you're commenting on all the things I should improve.
Do you really think this advice is useful?
Siyko 2 years ago
I wasn't walking to you in the first place, I was talking to the audience who were watching your vids but you just decided to yourself that you will take my comments to heart for yourself and answer them as if I directed them to you, and the question is not if they are useful, because they are very useful, it's whether or not you know them, and I don't really care if YOU know them because I'm posting tips for EVERYONE to see, not just you, you're not THAT important.
Nvoy123 2 years ago
It's for the youtube community to improve, they see how you play, they see my tips on THIS VIDEO, I repeat THIS VIDEO and they'll know what's going on and how it can be improved, it's not your fault for acting so angry and implying more things than there are, if you don't want the community to see how you play and improve themselves then I don't see why you bother posting videos.
Nvoy123 2 years ago
You done?
Siyko 2 years ago
Are you?
Nvoy123 2 years ago
im pretty sure most people (atleast i hope so) understand the character isnt cheap, its just pent up frustration coming out of someones mouth (fingers)
i have to admit i have reacted in such a manner before :) but its just venting
Puraaj 2 years ago
well said tuensujin i agree 100%.
Akuma ftw
daneoman1000 2 years ago
There is no such thing as a 'CHEAP' character, there are just tactics that you can't get around and get frustrated... its much easier to call someone/character cheap than to learn their weaknesses... basically there is a word that would describe those who call any tactic cheap... starts with a N ends with a B?... anyone?
tuensujin 2 years ago
NIBLET
nah but i just love the back throw ultra set up for Gouken you feel awesome when you pull it off
Gamrahhh 2 years ago
If u say Zangief is a cheap char, try to do his ult, without jumping... Tacchi ultimate atomic buster... after u manage to do this, try to pop it anytime ingame, to counter moves, then if easy ult setup Ryu/Sagat players, u can say Zangief is a cheap char, otherwise u should be quiter...
anyadat123123 2 years ago
good video and I agree that Zangief is a cheap character. Not to say that fireballs are cheap as well but anyway... Zangief is a powerhouse. Whew!
RGregg0528 2 years ago
I strongly disagree. Gouken is a much "cheaper" character than Zangief. Like Gouki you can sit there all day and throw fireballs.
I've played against Goukens that spammed fireballs all match long for the win. To top it off he can deflect moves.
There's a reason Gouken is banned from some tournaments.
Yea Zangief has a lariat, but there's nothing he can do unless he's an inch away from you. He has no projectile, he's slow as a turtle, and he does not have a cannon ball move.
xxmortimerxx 2 years ago
really good gouken. it's expected still. zangief is powerful
TripleCLUTCH 2 years ago
zangief is a cheep bastard
Prisms 2 years ago
This is a good video.
Also, I think Damdai is probably the only person I've ever seen complement his opponent mid-fight at a tournament.
Demetrium 2 years ago
wish i was this good with any character O.o. mad props!(im white so its ok)
frankith 2 years ago
im white too, sucker!
Siyko 2 years ago
I bet u where the "Gouken player" on DSP's videos. Recognized your style immediately.
TuRocks 2 years ago
you are right!
Siyko 2 years ago
yo where is dis tourney located
Reggieforeva91 2 years ago
Did I just heard Darksydephil's laugh at 2:18 lol? Nice match vs that Gief
shade692003 2 years ago
Oh yeah I'm looking at it again and it's definitely DSP
shade692003 2 years ago
lol i noticed that too.
Damn Siyko, i looked like you beat his ass the whole time. He has too much health and power.
I heard air tatsu beats lariat. Haven't tried it tho (i forget about air tatsu every time)
raze1988 2 years ago