Was jus talkin to friend and wife about this today. I'm a wacky optimist. I think there is a place for the "free nations" of the world to retain their sovereignty and unique culture without being sucked into a corporate ruling elite headquarters for all nations. I see attempts to subvert this amazing connecting power of the internet (with truth allowed to flow free) as simply ignorant and childish. Whether FCC or Corporations, "LET THE PEOPLE HAVE FREEDOM ON THE GRID!"
Its already starting, I live in the US and in Mexico. When I am in Mexico sometimes I come across US internet site that says I can not access the page or media from my region. Its mostly news sites. This sucks!
Dood. I'm starting to actually see your side of things. Especially with bama putting Tzars in charge of things... very interesting times, indeed. Thanks for your comment.
You say if the phone/cable companies get a monopoly on the Internet, that YouTube will be a watch only experience? That may be true; but they still have the 1st Amendment to worry about.
If this bill gets passed, YouTube could be lost altogether, because the FCC doesn't have to worry about the 1st Amendment.
the FCC doesn't have to worry about the 1st Amendment ? you two (with anonymous anoonnnnnnnone) sound like AT&T astroturfers to me... not that you are... possibly... just sayin... I mean. Why would you rather trust AT&T and Comcast? That's what I want to know!
Yes, I actually do. If they violate any laws, they have the full force of the government to worry about, if the FCC slips up, it doesn't matter, because they're pretty much part of the government anyway. The only people that will come after them are.... I can't think of any.
You're right about worrying about the FCC... but why aren't you at all worried about the brute force of "Ma Bell" aka ATT aka Return of the Beast? Comcast and Verizon run in the same pack of wolves also. Sure they're good old fashioned, red-blooded American corporations, but their lobbiests and underhanded payoffs to our elected officials are gettin to be a little bit outta control, imho.
@atomsound It is government red tape that allows these large corporations to monopolize an industry in the first place since We the People cannot start our own similar business to compete with them for lower cost and/or higher quality products. You are referring to Coporatism and that is not a fault of free market capitalism, that is a fault of cronie capitalism (government interfering with the economy) that causes businesses to because too big to fail. "Competition is a sin." - John Rockefeller
Better a "commission" that we can vote at, shout at and, if need be, demand be shut down... than some kind of wild company (ATT, Verizon, Comcast) with no contingency of citizens to hold them accountable. And I'm personally glad my children don't have to put up with the "F" bomb.
I think you put too much hostility towards the communications companies, what do they have the need or desire to censor? at the most people talking bad about the companies.
Was jus talkin to friend and wife about this today. I'm a wacky optimist. I think there is a place for the "free nations" of the world to retain their sovereignty and unique culture without being sucked into a corporate ruling elite headquarters for all nations. I see attempts to subvert this amazing connecting power of the internet (with truth allowed to flow free) as simply ignorant and childish. Whether FCC or Corporations, "LET THE PEOPLE HAVE FREEDOM ON THE GRID!"
atomsound 1 year ago
Its already starting, I live in the US and in Mexico. When I am in Mexico sometimes I come across US internet site that says I can not access the page or media from my region. Its mostly news sites. This sucks!
evromsd 1 year ago
Dood. I'm starting to actually see your side of things. Especially with bama putting Tzars in charge of things... very interesting times, indeed. Thanks for your comment.
atomsound 1 year ago
You say if the phone/cable companies get a monopoly on the Internet, that YouTube will be a watch only experience? That may be true; but they still have the 1st Amendment to worry about.
If this bill gets passed, YouTube could be lost altogether, because the FCC doesn't have to worry about the 1st Amendment.
packfan3 3 years ago
the FCC doesn't have to worry about the 1st Amendment ? you two (with anonymous anoonnnnnnnone) sound like AT&T astroturfers to me... not that you are... possibly... just sayin... I mean. Why would you rather trust AT&T and Comcast? That's what I want to know!
atomsound 3 years ago
Yes, I actually do. If they violate any laws, they have the full force of the government to worry about, if the FCC slips up, it doesn't matter, because they're pretty much part of the government anyway. The only people that will come after them are.... I can't think of any.
packfan3 3 years ago
You're right about worrying about the FCC... but why aren't you at all worried about the brute force of "Ma Bell" aka ATT aka Return of the Beast? Comcast and Verizon run in the same pack of wolves also. Sure they're good old fashioned, red-blooded American corporations, but their lobbiests and underhanded payoffs to our elected officials are gettin to be a little bit outta control, imho.
atomsound 3 years ago
@atomsound It is government red tape that allows these large corporations to monopolize an industry in the first place since We the People cannot start our own similar business to compete with them for lower cost and/or higher quality products. You are referring to Coporatism and that is not a fault of free market capitalism, that is a fault of cronie capitalism (government interfering with the economy) that causes businesses to because too big to fail. "Competition is a sin." - John Rockefeller
residentzombie 1 year ago
you think the FCC is a good controller of the Internet? yeah right the one that fines you for saying "fuck". I just don't agree.
anonnnnnnnnn 3 years ago
Better a "commission" that we can vote at, shout at and, if need be, demand be shut down... than some kind of wild company (ATT, Verizon, Comcast) with no contingency of citizens to hold them accountable. And I'm personally glad my children don't have to put up with the "F" bomb.
atomsound 3 years ago
I think you put too much hostility towards the communications companies, what do they have the need or desire to censor? at the most people talking bad about the companies.
anonnnnnnnnn 3 years ago
Then it's not as free as we thought.
BraceForEpic 3 years ago
Nope. savetheinternet - dot - com (please educate yourself, anonnn...
atomsound 3 years ago