Listening to this, I was instantly reminded of my old Packard Bell keyboard. I'm going to have to put up a video of it soon, but it sounds EXACTLY like that, but it's... 16 years old and had a tree fall on it, but no one can tell.
I been through most cherry switches and I weren't really satisfied with any of them. Either they are great for gaming but sucks for typing and have no feedback, or they are great for typing but sucks for gaming. I'm thinking maybe a topre 88 45g would be perfect for both
@Zensuji for a full size keyboard, if you say typing, i think i prefer the realforce keys, dunno why, they seem slightly more spaced out and more comfortbale to type on. The HHKB uses the smae keys but are slightly tighter together, but the form factor of the hhkb pro 2 is very hard to beat :)
@takasta I heard from Geekhack that the Realforce is also more smooth feeling?
But the HHKB looks so nice and getting used to the form factor is like geek points which other people might not be able to do... D: If you would only keep one of either the Realforce or the HHKB which one would you keep?
@dorkloveS9 its a really hard call to be honest - for typing, the realforce seems much more solid, and slightly smoother, but the HKKB is essentially teh same feel but is slightly lighter in keys and better form factor. I'd keep both haha
I'm going to have to slowly migrate from my current membrane keyboard to this one. I'm so used to hammering keys (especially when gaming), I'd probably break the keys on this one pretty quickly. How durable is it? Do you think it could handle my over-enthusiastic typing?
@takasta I realize that they are supposed to be have longer lifespans, but what I'm not sure about is if they're intended to be lightly pressed, or are fine with being hammered during intense games?
@hamburg1ar It's a hybrid design, rubber surrounding a spring, which in turn manipulates an electronic capacitive interface. It's actually quite nice, as you have the benefits of a mechanical keyboard, but without the often loud typing sounds. Not a problem if you live alone, but if you share a room/married, your roomate/spouse can get irritated by the noise.
@6overclockster9 then i should be typing dvorak now shouldn't i? since it's the "better" way of typing. just personal preference mate don't hate - home row conventional keys of asdfjkl;? w/e suits you haha
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@takasta First off, I AM NOT YOUR MATE. Second, it's not you that I hate, it's the way you type. Keyboards were designed using qwerty and traditional home row keys. If you respect a keyboard use it right.
@6overclockster9 they were designed using qwerty cause back when typewriters were invented, it had to be in a way so that closely used letters didn't get caught up with each other when typing so fast - none other than that. sorry i don't "respect" my keyboard lol
@6overclockster9 haha you're such a loser. it's so obvious that you envy the guy for having the financial backup to buy a realforce without hesitation and so you try to lower his pleasure about it even though the only thing you're doing is riding yourself deeper into the shithole called YOUR LIFE.
most people can't/won't spend such a ridiculous amount of money on a keyboard which is just fine, but why can't annoying unhappy people like you just stfu and kill themselfes quietly?
@6overclockster9 Do you go on all sorts of keyboard videos and leave negative comments on each one? You're fucking retarded if you care how somebody types on his keyboard. Guess what: I'm not using home row alignment to type this message to you. You gonna fucking baw over the mistreatment of my keyboard?
@takasta out of curiosity, how do you find this compares to the Model M? I'm considering this or one of Unicomp's Model M clones, but I'm leaning towards the Unicomp because of significantly lower cost ($80 USD or thereabouts).
@lovetoeatallthefood they are two very differently feelings. Definitely for the lower cost, go for the model M. Personally though, i never liked the model M feel and preferred cherry mx switches, both blue / brown. But topre are definitely in another level of it's own. :)
@takasta sadly, I've never had the opportunity to use a keyboard with Cherry switches (unless that's what the old Dell Quietkeys keyboards used). What's the main difference between them & Model M-style buckling springs - the amount of force required to depress the keys?
@lovetoeatallthefood i'd say model M is the equivalent of cherry blacks. Very hard to press down so your fingers get tired quickly. The other cherry switches are relatively soft / easier to press so they're easier on the fingers. I would highly recommend you getting some of them then!
@lovetoeatallthefood I have the Unicomp (Model M) Customizer 104, and I love it. I like it much better than my Filco with Cherry "blues." Precisely BECAUSE you must press harder. And I like the tactile feedback of the Buckling Springs––it's much more accurate because the click is definite, as opposed to the Cherries that actuate so high up. And the fact that you barely need to tap them leads (IMO) to typing errors. I don't feel my fingers getting tired at all after a long period of time.
I just got one of these yesterday....truly amazing. Looks and sounds exactly like in your video! I got the 55g version and I can't be happier. These are the best keyboards on earth!
@mrsone2000 I just got mine yesterday actually, but mine seems to be twice as loud. I'm trying not to bottom out the keys, but even then, they're still somewhat loud.
@Mnemosyn3 The board is very loud when you first get it. Give it about a week of moderate use and the keys will be a little softer and easier to press.
@EliteSoldier112 yea brown is a pretty good switch to start out with if you haven't used mechanical keyboards before. Both are adequate for both typing and gaming, the browns have a bit more of a softer touch to them. It's really hard to describe the feeling so really have to see for yourself haha
@takasta rofl, yea I was afraid you'd say something along those lines. What about noise? The blue looks to be louder and have that clicky noise that the brown doesn't have? You think I can try out the MX brown keyboard from Elite Keyboards and exchange it for an MX blue if I'm not satisfied?
I don't think Elitekeyboards do exchange if you don't like it. They do replace defective ones, but I don't think they will exchange a perfectly working keyboard.
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Hi... What keyboard do you prefer more, your Filco or the Topre? Also, I wasn't sure what kind of Cherry switch your FIlco uses (the one you took video of)... the model number suggested Cherry Brown switches, but you tagged the videos with "Blue". Please let me know!
@rayray097 yea the filco that i used were of browns, i do also have blues but i haven't made a video of them. I definitely prefer the typing on topre key switches more so than cherry key switches.
@rayray097 they're all different switches, espcially topre vs cherry, both blue / black / brown / red, etc. The topre switches are definitely my favorite. But there's a price to pay for them and it's quite a premium one. Definitley do not regret owning a topre keyboard though. Some might not like the feel of it, but if I were to choose the keyboard I would take everywhere, it would be the tenkeyless version reforece (87u)
i know they are expensive i just like old ibm model m and model f keyboards. they last forever and have a nice feel though. they are also very loud. right now im using a very old dell keyboard that is buckling spring like model m and model f.
Thanks for posting this. Now I can admire this keyboard until I can finally get one :D I have an 87U and love it, but I'm one of those weird people who like to have a number pad.
haha. I'd glady take your 87U over this one, but preferably black though :P. It's definately a good board but personally i prefer a tenkeyless board than full sized. the RF tenkeyless was just so much more expensive than the fullsize haha, thats what i got this 1.
My 87U just happens to be the black version too, lol. It makes make me feel strange for wanting to trade the most sought after Realforce for the less expensive version, but to be honest, I would have bought the 103UB out of preference it it were available when I got my tenkeyless.
i prefer tenkeyless because it allows for more room for your mouse and it's more comfortable to game that way. Also, many times you may not really need the keypad.
yes, i agree with that 100%. but on the 103 i was thinking of moving from wasd to something like pl;' maybe, where the activation force is also lower. Since i do need a numpad
I was considering getting the HHKB, but price was realforce was cheaper and seemed to be much better built. But i agree that the HHKB definately wins on form factor wise.
I wish I could use Dvorak, but Qwerty is already ingrained. It's entirely muscle memory... it's hard to unlearn that.
This keyboard looks great, and I hope to get one eventually.
sammosammy 1 month ago
Aren't these keyboards pretty expensive compared to even mechanical keyboards?? O_o
blitzkreig000 1 month ago
@blitzkreig000 not really mechanical keyboards are somewhat 150e and topres 200e ( in Finland)
jonitynkky 3 weeks ago
its not tenkeyless barf on a bun
topppps 1 month ago
Listening to this, I was instantly reminded of my old Packard Bell keyboard. I'm going to have to put up a video of it soon, but it sounds EXACTLY like that, but it's... 16 years old and had a tree fall on it, but no one can tell.
scatman0707 3 months ago
I gonna get mine soon I love the sound it makes.
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I been through most cherry switches and I weren't really satisfied with any of them. Either they are great for gaming but sucks for typing and have no feedback, or they are great for typing but sucks for gaming. I'm thinking maybe a topre 88 45g would be perfect for both
haiiyaa 5 months ago
@Zensuji for a full size keyboard, if you say typing, i think i prefer the realforce keys, dunno why, they seem slightly more spaced out and more comfortbale to type on. The HHKB uses the smae keys but are slightly tighter together, but the form factor of the hhkb pro 2 is very hard to beat :)
takasta 8 months ago
@takasta I heard from Geekhack that the Realforce is also more smooth feeling?
But the HHKB looks so nice and getting used to the form factor is like geek points which other people might not be able to do... D: If you would only keep one of either the Realforce or the HHKB which one would you keep?
dorkloveS9 6 months ago
@dorkloveS9 its a really hard call to be honest - for typing, the realforce seems much more solid, and slightly smoother, but the HKKB is essentially teh same feel but is slightly lighter in keys and better form factor. I'd keep both haha
takasta 6 months ago
Topre, buckling springs, Cherry MX Brown/blue/clear/black/red wich is best for gaming???
JeemOfRunescape 8 months ago
@JeemOfRunescape membrane for runescape
ArimaSenne1 6 months ago
@ArimaSenne1 funny comment since i stopped playing it like 2 days after i made this acc
JeemOfRunescape 6 months ago
I'm going to have to slowly migrate from my current membrane keyboard to this one. I'm so used to hammering keys (especially when gaming), I'd probably break the keys on this one pretty quickly. How durable is it? Do you think it could handle my over-enthusiastic typing?
liamsp544 8 months ago
@liamsp544 all mechanical swtich keyboards and capacitative switch keyboards will always last a lot longer than membrane based keyboards! haha
takasta 8 months ago
@takasta I realize that they are supposed to be have longer lifespans, but what I'm not sure about is if they're intended to be lightly pressed, or are fine with being hammered during intense games?
liamsp544 8 months ago
It sounds like it's made out of rubber.
hamburg1ar 8 months ago
@hamburg1ar It's a hybrid design, rubber surrounding a spring, which in turn manipulates an electronic capacitive interface. It's actually quite nice, as you have the benefits of a mechanical keyboard, but without the often loud typing sounds. Not a problem if you live alone, but if you share a room/married, your roomate/spouse can get irritated by the noise.
liamsp544 8 months ago
is it suitable for gaming.... because I type alot and play alot
TheDustyRavage 10 months ago
@TheDustyRavage yea sure! i love to game on it haha
takasta 10 months ago
That's pretty cool and all
But can you game on it?
SonarWavePulse 1 year ago
@SonarWavePulse of course, why wouldn't you be able to?
crowfaceltd 10 months ago
@crowfaceltd
Heard that some mechanical keyboards are made in a way that the signal from the key isn't constant.
Which means if I was playing cowadoody for example, when I press W, my character would only move one step forward.
Catch my drift?
SonarWavePulse 10 months ago
@SonarWavePulse not that I know of, a good quality mech board will game FINE
crowfaceltd 10 months ago
Omg i love the sound of the keys on this keyboard. I have the wired apple keyboard i love it
blonde198821 1 year ago
Yeah, really, I'd also be pissed if I saw someone that didn't rest their fingers on the home row. /sarcasm
quijeros 1 year ago 5
lol @ complaining on youtube how people type
raneksi 1 year ago 3
how come you're holding your fingers on the upper row? shouldn't they be in the middle row?
Mropticalgreen 1 year ago
@Mropticalgreen haha - i'm not sure just personal preferance i guess
takasta 1 year ago
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@takasta Kinda the wrong way of typing. That's not even where the home row keys are, if you even know what home row keys are.
6overclockster9 1 year ago
@6overclockster9 then i should be typing dvorak now shouldn't i? since it's the "better" way of typing. just personal preference mate don't hate - home row conventional keys of asdfjkl;? w/e suits you haha
takasta 1 year ago
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@takasta First off, I AM NOT YOUR MATE. Second, it's not you that I hate, it's the way you type. Keyboards were designed using qwerty and traditional home row keys. If you respect a keyboard use it right.
6overclockster9 1 year ago
@6overclockster9 they were designed using qwerty cause back when typewriters were invented, it had to be in a way so that closely used letters didn't get caught up with each other when typing so fast - none other than that. sorry i don't "respect" my keyboard lol
takasta 1 year ago 12
@6overclockster9 You have some issues, it's a keyboard! and it's up to him how he types...bit of a petty thing to get upset about don't you think...
bertus23 1 year ago 16
@6overclockster9
LOL... you are a douchebag. cant believe you even trying to complain about the way he types.
boostedk20a2 1 year ago 2
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@boostedk20a2 And what are you? His boyfriend lover?!
6overclockster9 1 year ago
@6overclockster9 haha you're such a loser. it's so obvious that you envy the guy for having the financial backup to buy a realforce without hesitation and so you try to lower his pleasure about it even though the only thing you're doing is riding yourself deeper into the shithole called YOUR LIFE.
most people can't/won't spend such a ridiculous amount of money on a keyboard which is just fine, but why can't annoying unhappy people like you just stfu and kill themselfes quietly?
TheHitlerGuy 1 year ago 2
@6overclockster9 Do you go on all sorts of keyboard videos and leave negative comments on each one? You're fucking retarded if you care how somebody types on his keyboard. Guess what: I'm not using home row alignment to type this message to you. You gonna fucking baw over the mistreatment of my keyboard?
Clatterpinch 10 months ago 3
@6overclockster9 fuck you!
xOXChimeraXOx 1 month ago
@6overclockster9 Insecure much?
Tazn0x 11 months ago
$250 for a keyboard
crimson177 1 year ago
@crimson177 yea, that's how expensive it costs haha - worth every penny
takasta 1 year ago
@takasta out of curiosity, how do you find this compares to the Model M? I'm considering this or one of Unicomp's Model M clones, but I'm leaning towards the Unicomp because of significantly lower cost ($80 USD or thereabouts).
lovetoeatallthefood 1 year ago
@lovetoeatallthefood they are two very differently feelings. Definitely for the lower cost, go for the model M. Personally though, i never liked the model M feel and preferred cherry mx switches, both blue / brown. But topre are definitely in another level of it's own. :)
takasta 1 year ago
@takasta sadly, I've never had the opportunity to use a keyboard with Cherry switches (unless that's what the old Dell Quietkeys keyboards used). What's the main difference between them & Model M-style buckling springs - the amount of force required to depress the keys?
lovetoeatallthefood 1 year ago
@lovetoeatallthefood i'd say model M is the equivalent of cherry blacks. Very hard to press down so your fingers get tired quickly. The other cherry switches are relatively soft / easier to press so they're easier on the fingers. I would highly recommend you getting some of them then!
takasta 1 year ago
@lovetoeatallthefood I have the Unicomp (Model M) Customizer 104, and I love it. I like it much better than my Filco with Cherry "blues." Precisely BECAUSE you must press harder. And I like the tactile feedback of the Buckling Springs––it's much more accurate because the click is definite, as opposed to the Cherries that actuate so high up. And the fact that you barely need to tap them leads (IMO) to typing errors. I don't feel my fingers getting tired at all after a long period of time.
shrumpkin 11 months ago
I just got one of these yesterday....truly amazing. Looks and sounds exactly like in your video! I got the 55g version and I can't be happier. These are the best keyboards on earth!
mrsone2000 1 year ago
@mrsone2000 I just got mine yesterday actually, but mine seems to be twice as loud. I'm trying not to bottom out the keys, but even then, they're still somewhat loud.
Mnemosyn3 1 year ago
@Mnemosyn3 The board is very loud when you first get it. Give it about a week of moderate use and the keys will be a little softer and easier to press.
mrsone2000 1 year ago
I'm loving the sound of these Topre switches.
quijeros 1 year ago
Is your keyboard the one that is all 55 gram weighted?
mrsone2000 1 year ago
@mrsone2000 it's mixed 35/45/55
takasta 1 year ago
Hi takasta,
Which do you prefer for SPEED only.
Cherry or Topre switches?
redalf 1 year ago
@redalf cherry blues are a pretty good fit for speed, but topre switches are just as goo
takasta 1 year ago
@takasta What about blue vs brown? I hear brown is a good combo for those looking for a good all-rounder (gaming and fair bit of typing).
EliteSoldier112 1 year ago
@EliteSoldier112 yea brown is a pretty good switch to start out with if you haven't used mechanical keyboards before. Both are adequate for both typing and gaming, the browns have a bit more of a softer touch to them. It's really hard to describe the feeling so really have to see for yourself haha
takasta 1 year ago
@takasta rofl, yea I was afraid you'd say something along those lines. What about noise? The blue looks to be louder and have that clicky noise that the brown doesn't have? You think I can try out the MX brown keyboard from Elite Keyboards and exchange it for an MX blue if I'm not satisfied?
EliteSoldier112 1 year ago
@EliteSoldier112
I don't think Elitekeyboards do exchange if you don't like it. They do replace defective ones, but I don't think they will exchange a perfectly working keyboard.
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Drybones2k7 1 year ago
Ci, if you aircon sound so loud in this video, does it mean that the keyboard is actually quite silent?
wildreams 1 year ago
@wildreams that's actually what it sounds like - and yea it's relatively silent
takasta 1 year ago
Is that a jet engine running in your background?
wildreams 1 year ago
@wildreams i think it was my air con
takasta 1 year ago
Pretty nice. :) i have the apple keyboard but i think i might go try a different keyboard this keybaord gets dirty so damn fast
blonde198821 1 year ago
Hi... What keyboard do you prefer more, your Filco or the Topre? Also, I wasn't sure what kind of Cherry switch your FIlco uses (the one you took video of)... the model number suggested Cherry Brown switches, but you tagged the videos with "Blue". Please let me know!
rayray097 1 year ago
@rayray097 yea the filco that i used were of browns, i do also have blues but i haven't made a video of them. I definitely prefer the typing on topre key switches more so than cherry key switches.
takasta 1 year ago
@takasta I see... Thanks for letting me know. Since you also have the Blue, are the Topres better than the Blue as well?
rayray097 1 year ago
@rayray097 they're all different switches, espcially topre vs cherry, both blue / black / brown / red, etc. The topre switches are definitely my favorite. But there's a price to pay for them and it's quite a premium one. Definitley do not regret owning a topre keyboard though. Some might not like the feel of it, but if I were to choose the keyboard I would take everywhere, it would be the tenkeyless version reforece (87u)
takasta 1 year ago
do you bottom out with this keyboard alot? what about in this clip?
thettruest 2 years ago
yea
takasta 2 years ago
it didn't seem like you were bottoming out in the clip i guess
thettruest 2 years ago
that's what topre keyboards sound like when they bottom out lol
takasta 2 years ago
Well at least it has full height keys
monkeyman1140 2 years ago
eww rubber dome! the worst keyboars ever... but cool sound
hddr3 2 years ago
ialthough it's a rubber dome - they use topre key switches which are of capacitative nature. one of the more expensive keyboards out there look it up
takasta 2 years ago
i know they are expensive i just like old ibm model m and model f keyboards. they last forever and have a nice feel though. they are also very loud. right now im using a very old dell keyboard that is buckling spring like model m and model f.
hddr3 2 years ago
haha, these are awfully quiet by all standards - even compared to rubber dome keyboards
takasta 2 years ago
i probably need to upgrade my keyboard. on the back it says it was mede in 1996
hddr3 2 years ago
support NKRO (n-key rollover) ?
nostalgiaholic777 2 years ago
the limit for usb connection is 6 keys - so no i don't think
takasta 2 years ago
Thanks for posting this. Now I can admire this keyboard until I can finally get one :D I have an 87U and love it, but I'm one of those weird people who like to have a number pad.
neptunebadger 2 years ago
haha. I'd glady take your 87U over this one, but preferably black though :P. It's definately a good board but personally i prefer a tenkeyless board than full sized. the RF tenkeyless was just so much more expensive than the fullsize haha, thats what i got this 1.
takasta 2 years ago
My 87U just happens to be the black version too, lol. It makes make me feel strange for wanting to trade the most sought after Realforce for the less expensive version, but to be honest, I would have bought the 103UB out of preference it it were available when I got my tenkeyless.
neptunebadger 2 years ago
lol, where you located? I'm in HK haha. If you're serious about it, i woulldn't mind a trade :P
takasta 2 years ago
I'm in the US, so I guess the overseas shipping costs would kind of kill it :(
neptunebadger 2 years ago
lol indeed it would.
takasta 2 years ago
Are you a member of the geekhack forums?
neptunebadger 2 years ago
yep, under name takasta as well.
takasta 2 years ago
why do u prefer tenkeyless?
thettruest 2 years ago
i prefer tenkeyless because it allows for more room for your mouse and it's more comfortable to game that way. Also, many times you may not really need the keypad.
takasta 2 years ago
yes, i agree with that 100%. but on the 103 i was thinking of moving from wasd to something like pl;' maybe, where the activation force is also lower. Since i do need a numpad
thettruest 2 years ago
actually esdf is what i use not wasd
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Ysyk2060 2 years ago
I like the fact that it's black on black but the form factor is not my type =[ So I went with the HHKB =D
Nice video!
watduzhkstand4 2 years ago
I was considering getting the HHKB, but price was realforce was cheaper and seemed to be much better built. But i agree that the HHKB definately wins on form factor wise.
takasta 2 years ago