2b, I pledged on my channel policy statement to allow ratings, comments, and relevant video responses, so I guess I'll take what comes. Anyway it's not too bad. The favorable ratio is closer to 3:1 and most of Gary's fans who are going to see this video have probably seen it already.
@Divinity333372 Impostor account. Notice, 4 threes, instead of just 3 threes. this is not Divinity. This is an impostor account. Be aware. And Watch this…
rami thats all very nice , but every time somone gets pissed at gary they pull the natzi card , on your last video i asked you about motive, your reply was i dont care about motives, but yet here you are banging on about truth, well to get to the truth of somones actions you need to know there motive, you are unwilling to do that, therefore i reject your i am only interested in the truth statments , and instead i look for your agenda
@Ramiiam yea of course you don't care, you dont care about the truth either so don't pretend you do , you have just admited here, you dont care about the truth and there your words and your gonna need stand by them.
@CHASCHARLTON Bullshit . He points out that Gary follows conspearicy theories and he does not follow nor respect the historical method nor knowing it.
@CHASCHARLTON The motives of br0kenmech are a red herring. The evidence in support of the holocaust being a calculated attempt at genocide is overwhelming. br0kenmech "motives" do not change that evidence. You are feebly attempting to make this personal so you can escape the burden of proof.
@FeministObsession1 how is it a red herring ? why is questioning somones motive a red herring? what burden of proof am i trying to escape from , what do i need to prove?
@zosozm69 oh, an exclamation point even. I stated on what grounds I was calling the red herring. If you do not agree with this it is on you to make the case against it. Asking me redundant questions only serves as an attempt to keep an issue alive that has already been squashed.
@FeministObsession1 well explain your red herring remark or did you pull it from your arse, what burden of proof is chascharlton "trying" to escape from? he pointed out that br0ken brains video was posted to have a cheep shot at inmendham, and nothing to do with natzi atrocities ,now if you can tell us otherwise please do
I would suggest you leave up this video. I don't think I've ever seen Immendham so comprehensively defeated in an argument. He claims he doesn't really care about this matter, but cares enough not to study any of the evidence and hold to his view. Gary knows this line of argument doesn't make any sense, we know it, and everyone else knows, but he's stuck in the playground. He had to stop you every half sentence because he knew how much trouble he was in.
@FightCensorship1 Gary cares about people making videos with his voice over natzi atrocities,dont you get that ? he never brought this subject up again br0kenmech did, and the worst thing about it is he brought it up to serve his own ends , not to highlight the plight of the jewish people at the hands of the natzis, that act right there is way worse than anything Gary has ever said or done,
A problem with evidence is that it can require a good theory which justifies a very detailed & focused investigation before any good evidence for this theory will arise. "The evidence" thus tends to be controlled by an official investigation which may be serving vested interests or merely not have considered a number of reasonable theories that would justify certain types of evidence seeking. It is the poor theorizing and the ignoring of existing evidence than makes Gary's pts so lame.
Probably not such a good idea to speak in terms of "last video" or to start off a vid as many do with mention of it being a "quick video." This desire to finish off a topic or relationship is too Gary-like in nature, too much of a focus upon "ending suffering" or bad feelings versus the focus going on an continued quest for the truth based upon whatever new negative or positive links would arise.
Questioning is fine, Rev. But at the end of the day, evidence rules. What's illegitimate is something like this: "I have a right to question, and I don't HAVE to look at any evidence."
"I have a right to question, and I don't HAVE to look at any evidence."
Not that I wish to defend mindless troll's like Inmendham, but
Yes This is entirely legitimate, in a open society where freedom of speech is practiced."
It's not legitimate. It shouldn't be illegal. People shouldn't be jailed or subjected to mob action for doing it. But it's not a legitimate part of any discourse that is about truth.
I'm thinking you need to look up the definition of "conspiracy."
conspiracy "1. a.1.a The action of conspiring; combination of persons for an evil or unlawful purpose"
legitimate"2. a.A.2.a Conformable to law or rule; sanctioned or authorized by law or right; lawful; proper"
Truth.when talking about history it is subjective, and to define a area of history as entirely true and beyond question, or modification or criticism, is dangerous, thus legitimate "proper" as one is always right to question, even mindlessly
"Truth.when talking about history it is subjective, and to define a area of history as entirely true and beyond question, or modification or criticism, is dangerous, thus legitimate "proper" as one is always right to question, even mindlessly."
I don't totally disagree with this. "Subjective" in the way you use it above is a word we ought to purge from our vocabulary. It's tainted and leads nowhere. But I would say again, anyone has a "right" to question mindlessly.
But "mindless" questioning is not a legitimate (proper) part of a debate that is about truth.
It's a free society. Anybody can opt out of the debate about truth and say, "it's just my opinion; I don't care about evidence." But what you cannot (properly) do is opt out, and then say: "And my opinions are as true as anybody else's."
Haven't seen an Inmendham video in like a year, totally slipped off my radar. I don't know why people still engage that asshole - 2bsirius did one too recently.
He doesn't want to learn anything! He knows it all already; you waste brain cycles responding to his endless stupidity.
@ScottishAtheist you know you hear that all the time,.. inmendham is full of crap etc etc ,now for a guy that talks so much crap theres a lack of videos smacking down his crap, theres a ton of hitler vids a ton of ad homs . but a real argument, well they just aint there , unless i have missed them links anyone please
Thanks for complimenting my dogs. A lot of people have made real arguments, if not to smack him down, then to take issue with what he espouses. I've done so myself, back when he and I got along better. A couple of vids I made in June '09 are still up. He responded, and fairly politely too. Those responses are probably still up on his channel. The point is, Chas, that these productive exchanges tend not to continue very long or to go anywhere. In my opinion, Gary's own...
...tactics close them down. The blocking, the kicking on Stickam, the insults and ad hominems, the tactic of responding by splicing his stream-of-consciousness rants into another person's video, resulting in a video that is so long and rambling that it discourages reply. All these tend to derail any real discussion in short order. This cannot be by accident. My conclusion after 2.5 years interacting with him is that Gary uses these tactics to shield his ideas from challenge.
I am glad you have taken the time and effort to refute these holocaust deniers. And. thank you for your thoughts on why we should (correctly) study history.
Its impossible to openly question or discuss the subject without being instantly labelled an 'anti-semite!' 'holocaust denier!' etc,or worse,trial by media and zionist lobby groups. Thats why most historians/people dont dare publicly veer from the 'story' and its blatant flaws,as just writing or talking about it can land you in jail.
Anyone with the balls to research and discuss this,honestly and without bias,should be commended..theres nothing to fear if its true,surely?
Shew, this Rami guy is a dick.
rjambi 10 months ago
The ratings for this video DO NOT reflect the excellent quality of the argument it presents.
This kind of infantile trolling nonsense is the reason I've decided to suspend voting on my vids.
Also, the back and forth bickering in the comment section is totally OFF TOPIC. It is playground name calling, nothing more.
2bsirius 1 year ago
@2bsirius
2b, I pledged on my channel policy statement to allow ratings, comments, and relevant video responses, so I guess I'll take what comes. Anyway it's not too bad. The favorable ratio is closer to 3:1 and most of Gary's fans who are going to see this video have probably seen it already.
Ramiiam 1 year ago
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2bsirius 1 year ago
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2bsirius 1 year ago
@Divinity333372 ShevoDevolution. Not funny.
xxxild 1 year ago
@Divinity333372 Hey you racist twit, d0llsnatch.
xxxild 1 year ago
@Divinity333372 Impostor account. Notice, 4 threes, instead of just 3 threes. this is not Divinity. This is an impostor account. Be aware. And Watch this…
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alowlyapprentice 1 year ago
@Divinity333372 Impostor account. Notice, 4 threes, instead of just 3 threes. this is not Divinity. This is an impostor account. Be aware.
alowlyapprentice 1 year ago
Those dogs are good at frisby.
Mjhavok 1 year ago
Good video
firewall5OOO 1 year ago
rami thats all very nice , but every time somone gets pissed at gary they pull the natzi card , on your last video i asked you about motive, your reply was i dont care about motives, but yet here you are banging on about truth, well to get to the truth of somones actions you need to know there motive, you are unwilling to do that, therefore i reject your i am only interested in the truth statments , and instead i look for your agenda
CHASCHARLTON 1 year ago 4
@CHASCHARLTON
And I still don't care about brokenmech's motive in quoting Gary. Those are Gary's words, and he stands by them.
Ramiiam 1 year ago
@Ramiiam yea of course you don't care, you dont care about the truth either so don't pretend you do , you have just admited here, you dont care about the truth and there your words and your gonna need stand by them.
CHASCHARLTON 1 year ago 6
@CHASCHARLTON And Gary does ? He has proven he does not.
Eopyk 1 year ago
@Eopyk your proof?
CHASCHARLTON 1 year ago
@Ramiiam he dosn't stand by them being played over natzi images. and you talk about truth hah
CHASCHARLTON 1 year ago
@CHASCHARLTON Bullshit . He points out that Gary follows conspearicy theories and he does not follow nor respect the historical method nor knowing it.
Eopyk 1 year ago
@Eopyk straw man i am talking to rami about the truth ! not your fuckin stupid conspearicy theories !
CHASCHARLTON 1 year ago
@CHASCHARLTON The motives of br0kenmech are a red herring. The evidence in support of the holocaust being a calculated attempt at genocide is overwhelming. br0kenmech "motives" do not change that evidence. You are feebly attempting to make this personal so you can escape the burden of proof.
FeministObsession1 1 year ago
@FeministObsession1 how is it a red herring ? why is questioning somones motive a red herring? what burden of proof am i trying to escape from , what do i need to prove?
CHASCHARLTON 1 year ago
@FeministObsession1 do you know what a red herring is ? i don't think you do!
zosozm69 1 year ago
@zosozm69 oh, an exclamation point even. I stated on what grounds I was calling the red herring. If you do not agree with this it is on you to make the case against it. Asking me redundant questions only serves as an attempt to keep an issue alive that has already been squashed.
NEXT
FeministObsession1 1 year ago
@FeministObsession1 well explain your red herring remark or did you pull it from your arse, what burden of proof is chascharlton "trying" to escape from? he pointed out that br0ken brains video was posted to have a cheep shot at inmendham, and nothing to do with natzi atrocities ,now if you can tell us otherwise please do
zosozm69 1 year ago
I would suggest you leave up this video. I don't think I've ever seen Immendham so comprehensively defeated in an argument. He claims he doesn't really care about this matter, but cares enough not to study any of the evidence and hold to his view. Gary knows this line of argument doesn't make any sense, we know it, and everyone else knows, but he's stuck in the playground. He had to stop you every half sentence because he knew how much trouble he was in.
FightCensorship1 1 year ago
@FightCensorship1 Gary cares about people making videos with his voice over natzi atrocities,dont you get that ? he never brought this subject up again br0kenmech did, and the worst thing about it is he brought it up to serve his own ends , not to highlight the plight of the jewish people at the hands of the natzis, that act right there is way worse than anything Gary has ever said or done,
CHASCHARLTON 1 year ago
Cult with devotees/narcissist leader, any critics rejected-blocked, opinions = eternal truths etc
BeyondWrittenWords 1 year ago
This was a great video. Spectacular work good sir.
GalileanGuy 1 year ago
I admire your restraint.
SSanf 1 year ago
A problem with evidence is that it can require a good theory which justifies a very detailed & focused investigation before any good evidence for this theory will arise. "The evidence" thus tends to be controlled by an official investigation which may be serving vested interests or merely not have considered a number of reasonable theories that would justify certain types of evidence seeking. It is the poor theorizing and the ignoring of existing evidence than makes Gary's pts so lame.
gedgetips 1 year ago
Probably not such a good idea to speak in terms of "last video" or to start off a vid as many do with mention of it being a "quick video." This desire to finish off a topic or relationship is too Gary-like in nature, too much of a focus upon "ending suffering" or bad feelings versus the focus going on an continued quest for the truth based upon whatever new negative or positive links would arise.
gedgetips 1 year ago
Hang on a sec,
Transcribed
"our collective Intellect is diminished"
One's Intellect is not diminished via asking questions, and challenging long-held beliefs, quite the opposite
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"There was a conspiracy to kill Kennedy, although there is no credible evidence to support this"
No conspiracy, was he shot three times by accident then ?
RevDevilin 1 year ago
@RevDevilin
Questioning is fine, Rev. But at the end of the day, evidence rules. What's illegitimate is something like this: "I have a right to question, and I don't HAVE to look at any evidence."
Kennedy was shot twice, not three times.
Ramiiam 1 year ago
@Ramiiam "evidence rules"
Not necessarily
Critical thinking and scientific methodology rules ;-)
And a major part of scientific methodology is to constantly re-examine the evidence, to question constantly
"I have a right to question, and I don't HAVE to look at any evidence."
Not that I wish to defend mindless troll's like Inmendham, but
Yes This is entirely legitimate, in a open society where freedom of speech is practiced
"Kennedy was shot twice, not three times"
by accident ?
RevDevilin 1 year ago
@RevDevilin
"I have a right to question, and I don't HAVE to look at any evidence."
Not that I wish to defend mindless troll's like Inmendham, but
Yes This is entirely legitimate, in a open society where freedom of speech is practiced."
It's not legitimate. It shouldn't be illegal. People shouldn't be jailed or subjected to mob action for doing it. But it's not a legitimate part of any discourse that is about truth.
I'm thinking you need to look up the definition of "conspiracy."
Ramiiam 1 year ago
@Ramiiam OED snd
conspiracy "1. a.1.a The action of conspiring; combination of persons for an evil or unlawful purpose"
legitimate"2. a.A.2.a Conformable to law or rule; sanctioned or authorized by law or right; lawful; proper"
Truth.when talking about history it is subjective, and to define a area of history as entirely true and beyond question, or modification or criticism, is dangerous, thus legitimate "proper" as one is always right to question, even mindlessly
RevDevilin 1 year ago
@RevDevilin
"Truth.when talking about history it is subjective, and to define a area of history as entirely true and beyond question, or modification or criticism, is dangerous, thus legitimate "proper" as one is always right to question, even mindlessly."
I don't totally disagree with this. "Subjective" in the way you use it above is a word we ought to purge from our vocabulary. It's tainted and leads nowhere. But I would say again, anyone has a "right" to question mindlessly.
Ramiiam 1 year ago
@Ramiiam
But "mindless" questioning is not a legitimate (proper) part of a debate that is about truth.
It's a free society. Anybody can opt out of the debate about truth and say, "it's just my opinion; I don't care about evidence." But what you cannot (properly) do is opt out, and then say: "And my opinions are as true as anybody else's."
Ramiiam 1 year ago
@Ramiiam "But "mindless" questioning is not a legitimate (proper) part of a debate that is about truth"
Did you honestly expect to enter into a dialectic debate with Inmendham ?
RevDevilin 1 year ago
@RevDevilin
Well, yes. At one time.
Ramiiam 1 year ago
@Ramiiam He-he Well it you didn't know then, you do now ;-)
Happy new year to you
And thank's for the chat ;-)
RevDevilin 1 year ago
@RevDevilin
Same to you and likewise.
Ramiiam 1 year ago
@Ramiiam Kennedy was shot 23 times. LOL.
BobChaos23 1 year ago
You are feeding a troll u-kown :-)
RevDevilin 1 year ago
Haven't seen an Inmendham video in like a year, totally slipped off my radar. I don't know why people still engage that asshole - 2bsirius did one too recently.
He doesn't want to learn anything! He knows it all already; you waste brain cycles responding to his endless stupidity.
And nice dogs!
ScottishAtheist 1 year ago
@ScottishAtheist you know you hear that all the time,.. inmendham is full of crap etc etc ,now for a guy that talks so much crap theres a lack of videos smacking down his crap, theres a ton of hitler vids a ton of ad homs . but a real argument, well they just aint there , unless i have missed them links anyone please
and yea nice dogs!
CHASCHARLTON 1 year ago
@CHASCHARLTON
Thanks for complimenting my dogs. A lot of people have made real arguments, if not to smack him down, then to take issue with what he espouses. I've done so myself, back when he and I got along better. A couple of vids I made in June '09 are still up. He responded, and fairly politely too. Those responses are probably still up on his channel. The point is, Chas, that these productive exchanges tend not to continue very long or to go anywhere. In my opinion, Gary's own...
Ramiiam 1 year ago
@Ramiiam
...tactics close them down. The blocking, the kicking on Stickam, the insults and ad hominems, the tactic of responding by splicing his stream-of-consciousness rants into another person's video, resulting in a video that is so long and rambling that it discourages reply. All these tend to derail any real discussion in short order. This cannot be by accident. My conclusion after 2.5 years interacting with him is that Gary uses these tactics to shield his ideas from challenge.
Ramiiam 1 year ago
And yeah beautiful dogs :)
All love from me Jasmine
Eopyk 1 year ago
Awsome video bravo. Pwnage to the point ! Awsome video!
Eopyk 1 year ago
I am glad you have taken the time and effort to refute these holocaust deniers. And. thank you for your thoughts on why we should (correctly) study history.
dewinthemorning 1 year ago
Its impossible to openly question or discuss the subject without being instantly labelled an 'anti-semite!' 'holocaust denier!' etc,or worse,trial by media and zionist lobby groups. Thats why most historians/people dont dare publicly veer from the 'story' and its blatant flaws,as just writing or talking about it can land you in jail.
Anyone with the balls to research and discuss this,honestly and without bias,should be commended..theres nothing to fear if its true,surely?
mrlowdangle 1 year ago
We really should engage the evidence without putting egos into it. There is SO MUCH biased research out there...
I'm so glad to see your balanced review of this.
2bsirius 1 year ago