@DeepestBlueJ The Chinese and Japanese swords are actually exactly the same aside from 1 thing. The Japanese have higher temper lines, and thats the only difference with side-effects from there.
@Buuub08 the "one thing" was first made in china. and then the japs invited china. the japanese sward is just a copy of it. and they used it to cut through fabric clothes and human flesh druing wars, thats why they have higher temper lines, they want it to be as sharp ass possible. but the chinese has metal armors, so they want it to be strong as possible. so they have lower temper line.
@DeepestBlueJ well the temper lines are the difference. And by no means is the jap blade sharper.
"higher temper line" means the temper line extends to about half of the blade and is thus known as "differential heat treatment", the line is what you call 'Hamon'. Its done entirely for artistic purposes, although some might say that the jap blade is snapped easier due to this. Yet historically the lines were much lower than what we see now.
Although katana is sharper, but it's made by "cold forging"(around 800 degree),however,China already has "hot working" techniques(over 1000 degree) in the“Warring States Period”, so the reason-so called “higher temper line”- you gave us is totally invalid.
@novastar99 The katana is not sharper, there have NEVER been any sharpness tests and you obviously dont know that there is such a thing as an edge that is TOO SHARP.
Its a historical fact that iron and steel works were introduced to Japan from the mainland, which is why for centuries the Japanese weapons were exact copies of Korean and Chinese ones.
The Chinese forging changed somewhat after the introduction of blast furnaces while in Japan in remained unchanged. However, if you would go to a traditional smith in China and compare his work to a katanakaji - it would be entirely the same aside from the temper line and POSSIBLY, but not necessarily, the way the steel is smelted from the ore.
Instead of shoving in typical Japanese bullshit about their inferiority complex why dont you just see it for yourself?
As such the Japanese forging techniques are anything but Japanese. Just because after about the 6th century forging saw some changes in China it doesnt mean the initial way somehow magically becomes Japanese. In modern pop culture many things are being referred to as Japanese when they arent, even people who have never even been in Japan are presented as Japanese. Someone even tried to convince me that Zen is Japanese. Absolutely ridiculous.
@Buuub08 I know. I've had people try to convince bullshit many times before too. I totally agree with your point. I think, if people like a subject enough, they should take the time to atleast study it's origins... Modern pop culture says alot of bullshit, but if you think of it, it's a good marketing technique, even if it is crap.
I think there are some misunderstandings between some people.....
MrGod47 4 hours ago
幹各說各話有屁用
lonmCity 4 months ago
亲爱的圣诞老人爷爷。。。
wanxinmike 4 months ago
真搞笑阿!
還有人說來自JAPAN! 笑死了~
WOWOVVOWO 1 year ago 8
@WOWOVVOWO 中國人就是喜歡自欺欺人 以為自欺欺人就沒有人知道真相 中國人真是可憐
200398ful 6 months ago
@200398ful 中国人准备用唐刀刺穿你妈的屁眼！
dratigleoeag 4 months ago
Ｃｏｍｐｌｅｔｅ Ｔａｎ ａｗｏｒｄ ｉｓ kept only in Japan.
evilcutter 2 years ago
@evilcutter 中国也有就怕你买不起
xjshc020 1 year ago
@evilcutter tang award and Japanese knife are two different things，but Japanese got their idea of knife from china.
and china still has lots of them.
DeepestBlueJ 1 year ago
@DeepestBlueJ The Chinese and Japanese swords are actually exactly the same aside from 1 thing. The Japanese have higher temper lines, and thats the only difference with side-effects from there.
Buuub08 1 year ago
@Buuub08 the "one thing" was first made in china. and then the japs invited china. the japanese sward is just a copy of it. and they used it to cut through fabric clothes and human flesh druing wars, thats why they have higher temper lines, they want it to be as sharp ass possible. but the chinese has metal armors, so they want it to be strong as possible. so they have lower temper line.
DeepestBlueJ 1 year ago
@DeepestBlueJ well the temper lines are the difference. And by no means is the jap blade sharper.
"higher temper line" means the temper line extends to about half of the blade and is thus known as "differential heat treatment", the line is what you call 'Hamon'. Its done entirely for artistic purposes, although some might say that the jap blade is snapped easier due to this. Yet historically the lines were much lower than what we see now.
Buuub08 1 year ago
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novastar99 9 months ago
@Buuub08
you know you are full of crap right ?
Although katana is sharper, but it's made by "cold forging"(around 800 degree),however,China already has "hot working" techniques(over 1000 degree) in the“Warring States Period”, so the reason-so called “higher temper line”- you gave us is totally invalid.
（websites:「日本美術刀劍保存協會」......go find out yourself)
novastar99 9 months ago 3
@novastar99 The katana is not sharper, there have NEVER been any sharpness tests and you obviously dont know that there is such a thing as an edge that is TOO SHARP.
Its a historical fact that iron and steel works were introduced to Japan from the mainland, which is why for centuries the Japanese weapons were exact copies of Korean and Chinese ones.
Buuub08 9 months ago
The Chinese forging changed somewhat after the introduction of blast furnaces while in Japan in remained unchanged. However, if you would go to a traditional smith in China and compare his work to a katanakaji - it would be entirely the same aside from the temper line and POSSIBLY, but not necessarily, the way the steel is smelted from the ore.
Instead of shoving in typical Japanese bullshit about their inferiority complex why dont you just see it for yourself?
Buuub08 9 months ago
As such the Japanese forging techniques are anything but Japanese. Just because after about the 6th century forging saw some changes in China it doesnt mean the initial way somehow magically becomes Japanese. In modern pop culture many things are being referred to as Japanese when they arent, even people who have never even been in Japan are presented as Japanese. Someone even tried to convince me that Zen is Japanese. Absolutely ridiculous.
Buuub08 9 months ago
@Buuub08 I know. I've had people try to convince bullshit many times before too. I totally agree with your point. I think, if people like a subject enough, they should take the time to atleast study it's origins... Modern pop culture says alot of bullshit, but if you think of it, it's a good marketing technique, even if it is crap.
GZH1234 8 months ago