@Liamay100 Your previous, comment has been removed, because youo apparently can write in English, which is preferrable to that pig latin language of Roumania. Thank you for your comment and cooperation.
roumania is nothing but a multi-ethnic monstrosity....what is a roumanian anyway? Every person I've met from roumania here in the states is either a Hungarian, German, Gypsy, Tatar, Turk, Slav or some mixture. A Roumanian is just some BS nationality made up of many different peoples. Its just an enlarged backwater, historyless region created from stolen territories. The victorious powers in WW1 (France, England) didn't want a strong country in Central Europe..Austria-Hungary, so hence "roumania"
@GermanArmy96 They are indeed, my Saxon friend. That is one reason why the Romanian dictatorial goveernment, whose facade is democracy, keeps the Szekelys oppressed, instead of granting them autonomy, or the right of self-government. Romanians are paranoid and distrustful of Hungarians for no apparent reason, other than their self-guilt-ridden consciences for stealing Transylvania from the dismembered Kingdom of Hungary in 1920. Since then, the Szekelys have twice before had autonomy in Romania.
@EuroAmerican02 Moreover, the Szekelys previously enjoyed full autonomy under the Hungarian kingdom for nearly 1,100 years. The previous years of autonomy under Romanian government were under a terrorist regime of communism under Ceasescu, but now autonomy is denied under a so-called democratic system of government. What kind of nonsense is this?
@AlexanderSSI Watch the video ~ AGAIN! I especially call your attention to 02:37. What is the basis for your ridiculous assertion? Have you ever heard of the Magyar Autonomous Region? In Romanian, Regiunea Autonomă Maghiară? (In Hungarian, Magyar Autonóm Tartomány.) What about Mureş-Magyar Autonomous Region? These were were autonomous regions in the People's Republic of Romania (later Socialist Republic of Romania) (1952-1960) and (1960-1968), respectively.
@AlexanderSSI The total population of this region was, according to the 1956 census, composed of: Hungarians (77.3%), Romanians (20.1%), Gypsies (1.5%), Germans (0.4%) and Jews (0.4%). The official languages of the province were Hungarian and Romanian and the provincial administrative centre was Târgu-Mureş (Marosvásárhely).
@EuroAmerican02 Ah yes, the Hungarian Communist Stalin-sponsored Autonomous Mureş Region. We are all past that. I was talking about the normal Hungarian who does not want what extremist politicians want.
@AlexanderSSI AS usual, try to demonize Hungarians for that which Romanians enacted. FYI, these regions were under Ceasescu, and as I recall, he was a Romanian communist leader, NOT Hungarian. Moreover, he was at odds with Stalin, which inevitably led to his downfall. The overwhelming majority of Hungarians living in Romania desire autonomy.
@EuroAmerican02 Don't try to victimize yourself, we all know very well that the Hungarians contribuited to the soviet invasion of Romania, they were even more than Romanians in the Communist Party before 1940. And after the war they joined the former Fascist became communists over night. So we don't have to cry for them, seriously!
Ceausescu did not created the autonomous region, it was Stalin's men who came to Romania to creat a communist republic, like Ana Pauker and Vasile Luka (Laszlo Luka).
@AlexanderSSI I don't feel that either Hungary or Romania were victims of circumstances,. but were orchestrators of their own destinies. By the way, if you will recall, both Hungary and Romania were on the side of the Axis Powers during World War II, until Russia invaded Romania, at which time your hero, Antonescu, switched sides. The Hungarians were occupied by Nazi Germany, and were "liberated" by the Russians, much to the chagrin of the Hungarian people.
@EuroAmerican02 Romania centranly was not the orchestrator of its own destiny. Because Romania was forced to be on the Axis side due to the fact that USSR took a big chunk of Romanian territory, and USSR was considered a bigger enemy than Germany. Romania did not had a choice, and even before 1940 it declared that it will remain neutral.
And Antonescu did not switched side, he was arrested by King Michael and Romania swiched sides. Hungary was a fascist country for many years by 1940!
@AlexanderSSI On the contrary, Romania was indeed the orchestrator of its own destiny. It was Romania's CHOICE to fight on the side of Hitler and Mussolini. If the USSR took a piece of Romanian territory, then Romania should have taken it up with the USSR directly, the same way that Hungarians fought the USSR independently and without aid later in 1956! Romania had a choice, and it chose to become fascist, even Nazi.
@AlexanderSSI But, this has nothing to do with the video or the topic of autonomy for Hungarian Szekelys living under Romanian dominion. Let's stay on-topic, shall we?
@AlexanderSSI As for Ceausescu not creating the autonomous region, that is correct, because the history of Hungarian autonomy in Transylvania extends back in time much farther than his emergence to national power. Originally, the name Székely Land denoted an autonomous region within Transylvania.
@AlexanderSSI It existed as a legal entity from medieval times until the Austro-Hungarian Compromise of 1867, when its role was replaced by the county system. Along with Transylvania, it became part of Romania in 1920, returned to Hungary in 1940 and was again attached to Romania in 1945. The area was an autonomous region within Romania between 1952–1968, and today there are Székely autonomy initiatives to reach a higher level of self-governance for the Székely Land within Romania.
@AlexanderSSI Is it any less "normal" for a Hungarian in Romania to want autonomy than it is for a Romanian to desire to acquire and annex to Romania the independent countries of Moldova or Bessarabia? At least, Hungarians in Romania are asking for something that is democratically acceptable and legal in other democratic countries. Moreover, they are not asking to modify the integrity of Romania's borders in the least, and swear to remain Romania's loyal citizens.
@EuroAmerican02 Actually, nobody wants to annex Bessarabia and Northern Bukovina, because these regions are inhabited by Romanians in majority and were taken from Romania illegally in 1940, we just want a Union, which means that when the Romanians from Bessarabia and Northern Bukovina will desire the Union with Romania it will be so. Annexation is what a Hungarian wants to do with Transylvania, to take a piece of a country with force and annex it. We are not in the same situation!
@AlexanderSSI I completely disagree with you. There is no difference among the settlements, except one. The residents of Transylvania have been demographically diluted since the partitioning of Transylvania to Romania, i.e. Romanian laws concerning so-called "land reform", otherwise known as Romanianization, under which ethnic Romanians were rrelocated from various parts of Romania to Transylvania to reduce the numbers of ethnic Hungarians.
@EuroAmerican02 I also disagree with you, the Romanian land reforms did not relocated populations, it just gave the land from the landlords to the people. Over 60000 Hungarians also received land from the Romanian state.
@AlexanderSSI Then, let's agree to disagree with each other. Again, this has nothing to do now with the topic of this video or with autonomy for the Hungarian Szekely ethnic population living in Romania.
@AlexanderSSI For example, Cluj-Napoca, formerly Kolozsvar, the Hungarian capital city of Transylvania, formerly enjoyed a Hungarian majority of 80% but was reduced through Romanianization to a minority of merely 20% between 1920 and 2002. There are other similar examples found around the region.
@EuroAmerican02 Cluj Napoca indeed enjoyed a Hungarian majority, but that was due to the anti-romanian laws of the former Hungarian state who did no permitted Romanians to settle in cities. What happened after 1918 was just a natural population boost in the cities, because for the first time the Romanians and all the nationalities of Transilvania were given the right to settle wherever they choose. The same is true for all the cities of Transilvania.
@AlexanderSSI I find this too incredible to believe, and if it were on-topic in the least, I would ask for your sources for this kind of information, or, as far as I know, misinformation. But, it is not relevant to the video or the discussion about autonomy for Hungarian Szekelys living in Roomania today, so I will not ask for your reference information, but will dismiss it as irrelevant.
@AlexanderSSI In fairness to both Hungarians and Romanians, many parts of Transylvania did indeed contain a majority of ethnic Romanians and those parts were justifiably appended to Romania; however, the northern part of Transylvania was clearly composed of a majority of ethnic Hungarians and should have remained under Hungarian control even after Trianon if Trianon had been even remotely just.
@EuroAmerican02 Incorrect, i present you one conclusive evidence. Even if you could carve up the map of Transilvania to include the Hungarians and give it to Hungary, like they tried in 1940, you would still have a 50% majority of Romanians, like in 1940. You cannot carve up a piece of Transilvania to include a majority of Hungarians!
@AlexanderSSI Conclusive evidence according to what source of information? Transylvania did not have to be carved up in any particular fashion to show a majority of ethnic Hungarians living in the northern part of that province. If we look at contemporary statistics, it may now be true that Hungarians no longer form a majority there, due, in no small measure, to attrition and to Romanianzation.
@EuroAmerican02 I know it is hard to admitt it, but you have to recognize that the Hungarians tried to Hungarize massively Transylvania, to create passages to connect the Szeklers with the Hungarians even before 1918, even newspaper journalist from those times knew it. So in the end, the Hungarians failed at their own game. They tried to hungarize Transilvania but there was no time, thank God!
@AlexanderSSI It is not difficult to admit that there was a certain degree of Magyarization that occurred after 1867, the same as the Romanianization that occurred in Transylvania and the rest of Romania after 1920, or that a Latinization of the Romanian Slavic language occurred at about the same time.
@AlexanderSSI But, it did not occur to the degree ("massively") to which you allueded, nor did it occur for the purpose which you suppose (" to create passages to connect the Szeklers with the Hungarians even before 1918").
@AlexanderSSI After all, the Kingdom of Hungary was one continuous territory and Hungarians in Hungary were naturally joined to their brothers in Transylvania prior to 1918 and for a brief period in 1940. There was no need for Magyarization when they were already citizens of the same kingdom and joined by land to form a border with Poland.
Again, this is incongruous with the topic of the video or the discussion of autonomy for the Hungarian Szekelys of Romania.
@AlexanderSSI The same is true today for other regions and areas bordering on today's Hungary. Hungarians still form an ethnic majority on all her borders, including southern Slovakia and northern Serbia, to name two.
@AlexanderSSI When Hungary repossessed northern Transylvania in 1940 with the approval of the Axis Powers, it was NOT angry Romanians who greeted Adm. Horthy as he paraded into Nagyvarad and Kolozsvar on the back of his white Lipizaner stallion, but ethnic Hungarians celebrating the reunion with Hungary.
@EuroAmerican02 Wel of course the Romanians did not greeted the Admiral of Lake Balaton Horthy. The Romanians either fled occupied Transilvania either stayed in their homes and to suffer killings that took place shortly. And again, there was no union between North-Western Transilvania, it was an annexation!
@AlexanderSSI First, tread lightly! I have been careful to avoid insulting your national hero, Antonescu, so I'll ask you to refrain from insulting ours, Admiral Miklos Horthy!!
Union or annexation ~ it's the same cause-and-effect, just a difference in semantics.
Again, please restrict your discussion to the topic of the video and the autonomy of Hungarian Szekelys in Transylvania, Romania.
@EuroAmerican02 There's no Hungarian ethnic majority near west Romanian border,on a contrary,there is a Romanian ethnic majority in Hungary next to your east border,Romanians left outside RO by Trianon.In 90 years you magyarised half a million Romanian ethnics left in Hungary.The true Romanian historic and geographic border is Tisa river,but Trianon split the region in two,like they splited historical Moldova,Banat,Bucovina,Dobrogea.Every neighbour took half of our Romanian inhabited regions
@MrCraiessou Please tell me what, if anything, this has to do with this video. The video, as far as I know, mentions nothing about Trianon. In addition, as far as I know, Romanians on YouTube believe that Trianon was a just solution to a very complicated problem, because, among other things, it served to subdivide a huge and great kingdom. So, let's not even discuss Trianon and its effects here, shall we? This video and these comments are about autonomy for Szekely Land in Romania.
@EuroAmerican02 It's a reply for your previous comm.There's no such thing szekely land,the private people with szekely ethnicity do not own Romanian territories,we are all Romanian citizens and all Romania is our land,in a collective manner.The szeklers are probably a mixture of turanics,Romanians and Magyars,a handful of people living in mixed villages and towns,they own their houses,gardens but they have the same rights as Romanians in HU,or Romanians in RO,they don't own
@MrCraiessou I'm afraid that you are not as familiar with your country's political divisions and subdivisions as you may think you are. In a quote from Wikipedia, please note "The Székely Land or in Hungarian: Székelyföld; Romanian: Ţinutul Secuiesc; German: Szeklerland; Latin: Terra Siculorum) or Szekler Land refers to the territories inhabited mainly by the Székely, a Hungarian-speaking ethnic group from eastern Transylvania.
@MrCraiessou They live in the valleys and hills of the Eastern Carpathian Mountains, corresponding to the present-day Harghita, Covasna, and parts of Mureş Counties in Romania." The article continues very concisely and precisely, as follows: "Originally, the name Székely Land denoted an autonomous region within Transylvania.
@MrCraiessou It existed as a legal entity from medieval times until the Austro-Hungarian Compromise of 1867, when its role was replaced by the county system. Along with Transylvania, it became part of Romania in 1920, returned to Hungary in 1940 and was again attached to Romania in 1945. The area was an autonomous region within Romania between 1952–1968, and today there are Székely autonomy initiatives to reach a higher level of self-governance for the Székely Land within Romania."
@MrCraiessou So, as you can see, Szeklers are not a mixturee of anything, but descendants of Attila the Hun left behind aas a rear guard since the 5th century A.D. They are, in fact, Hungarian! Next, there was, is, and will remain a Szekely Land in Romania, even if the EU, EP, NATO, and the U.N. must enforce it, because it is a democratic symbol of the will of a 200,000 majority of the people in the region, comprised of a majority of 80% ethnic Hungarians.
@MrCraiessou It was not the Szeklers' choice to become part of Romania, but the result of an unjust political mandate in 1920 based on deliberately erroneous statistics furnished by Roumania to the Allies. The so-called "handful of people" as you alluded to them, and you must have VERY big hands, consists of more than 2.5 MILLION souls! And, while legally they may possess some of the same rights as ethnic Romanians, those laws are essentiually unenforced, so they are meaningless.
@MrCraiessou Such exasperation and frustration usually leads to civil strife ~ autonomy is the ONLY viable and practical, the only DEMOCRATIC, solution!
@EuroAmerican02 All you said is just your imagination and wishful thinking.There are just 1.3 mill.Hungarian-speakers in RO,Magyars,Szeklers and Hungarian Gypsies.In Harghita and Covasna (the real names for your imaginary seccesionist land) live 300 000 Hungarians,they have not the right to steal and enclose that Romanian region.F.ex.my town is not mine,it belongs to every person living in RO,maybe in the opposite corner,no matter his ethnicity.RO citizens are FREE inside Ro and so we will stay
@MrCraiessou This is where the misunderstanding between Romanians and ethnic Hungarians living in Romania stems from: the Hungarian minority has NO desire to secede from the sovereign state of Romania. They merely desire autonomy, which simply means self-government under and within the boundaries of the Romanian constitution. There is no plan to produce a separate country in the middle of Romania, or to otherwise mitigate the integrity of the Romanian nation.
@EuroAmerican02 Come on,man!Are we small children?are you a small child?The Hungarians(the ones with autonomy initaitives) want to secede from Romania with a great chunk of land and give this land as a gift to Hungary.
@MrCraiessou Now who's being the child? Want to "give" land as a "gift"? You have to be out of your mind with traditional Romanian paranoia and distrust. So, that's what you Romanians believe?! Now I understand why you fear Hungarians and why you want to keep them under your thumbs. Well, believe me, where a spirit of self-determination and self-government exists, there will be no peace between the ethnic minority and the dominant, oppressive majority.
@EuroAmerican02 Indeed you 're not a child,you are an hypocrite magyar extremist trying to reach his goal by lies and deceception.Beside you,there are hundreds of Hungarian honest extremists who tell us every day their true sentiments and wishes for Romania.They hate Romania and want to colonize Transilvania again like in medieval horror times.They call us their servants,inferior race like they are some feudal masters,they want Territory and they act insane against us.And they are PROUD to tell
@MrCraiessou Excuse me, I thought I was engaged in dialogue with an "intelligent" Romanian, but I can clearly perceive now that I am sadly mistaken. You, Sir or Madam, are a racist bigot, no question about it. You STEROTYPE me, then CATEGORIZE me, without knowing anything about me. If I had mentioned anything at all colonizing Transylvania, or any of the other nonsense you alluded to, I could understand your frustration and anger toward me. But, I said nothing about anything else but autonomy.
@MrCraiessou You have not disproved anything I've said so far to you (or to anyone else under this video), yet you call me a liar. I think it would be advisable now if you simply left these messages unanswered and left my video. I reserve comments for intelligent people, of which I've sadly found too few among the Romanians on YouTube! Goodbye ... and enjoy your anti-Hungarian mania ~ while you still can!
@EuroAmerican02 Thank you for showing so quicly your true face! Here we go,"stupid'Romanians","go away, goodbye,you 're too stupid for my Hungarian superiority". I wonder why you didn't block me yet.Probably because you like so much to talk all by yourself .
@MrCraiessou My so-called true face has been the only one I know to show you, because, contrary to the popular belief of Romanian nationalist-extremists like yourself, I am honest and can only be the person that I am. I don't know how to be anyone else, nor do I have any desire to play games with you, Romanian. Lest I disappoint you, I will now block you, because I enjoy talking to myself ~ the fact is that I would rather talk to myself than to an ignorant Romanian like you! Goodbye!
@MrCraiessou This has been proven to be true (21 times in Europe to be exact ~ there are 21 separate and variable forms of autonomies TODAY in Europe at the present time) . All are at peace with the ruling governments of those countries! Moreover, no borders were modified, re-drawn, or otherwise restructured as a consequence of their autonomies either. So, what else is Romania's problem with Hungarian autonomy if not for a morbid fear of Hungarians in general?
@EuroAmerican02 ”There is no plan to produce a separate country in the middle of Romania” yeah, right... BULLSHIT. Who do you think you're fooling??? The plan is EXACTLY this one - to make a new country, just like Kosovo! Your own propaganda pastor, Tokes Laszlo (the former Securitate collaborator - anticommunist my ass!) said so - he wants Kosovo all over again, in the middle of Romania this time!
@aquario008 It is clear that one who does not believe in GOD is not likely to believe anything that a Hungarian will say ~ I'm not the least surprised by your nationalist-extremist-atheist-anti-Hungarian-antisemitic-anti-Zionist-anti-Jewish sentiments. I'm also not surprised by your being in league with the likes of MadeInRomania, or whatever that juvenile delinquent transvestite calls itself these days. Its days on YouTube are numbered, not unlike yours.
@aquario008 It is obvious that have no fear of anyone, because you are too stupid, too ignorant, too moronic, too imbecilic to know whom to fear and when. A-queer-io, who are YOU going to call to your rescue? Between us, we both know the REAL shithead, the TRUE fuckface, is YOU!
@EuroAmerican02 EuroTrashPimp, fucktards like you are a dime a dozen, you foolish separatist trolls lie all over the Internet, paid by the propaganda machines of G Soros and other morons... it must be a really pathetic life you lead, from paycheck to paycheck. tell me, do they pay you by the hour, or by the word, or what? only a retard like you or szatmari1 can make a living by spreading lies, hatred and garbage about Romania on the net....fuckface.
@aquario008 You have made it abundantly, painfully clewar that you are not only misguided, but that you are mentally deranged as well. It is also clear at this point that have no interest in discussing the topic of this video, but only come here to personally insult the viewers, readers, and, not least of all, me, with your personal insults and false condemnations. Moreover, you are spamming me with the same identical comments under other videos of mine.
@aquario008 So, It is that, lacking any desire to continue this name-calling contest with you, and without any sadness or remorse whatsoever, that I BLOCK you without the least reluctance. Now, return to your Bucharest orphanage and tell them that society has rebuked you once again and that you need more guidance in the art of civilitude and social behavior.
@MrCraiessou Why can't you and Baisescu get this through your thick skulls?
Next, for your edification, statistics clearly show an ethnic Hungarian majority population of 80% at 650,000 Hungarians living in the ancestral home of Szekely Land, comprised of Harghita, Covasna, and part of Mures Counties. These are the indigenous regions for which autonomy is sought.
@MrCraiessou Autonomy does not mean that ethinc Romanians must move or relocate, they can live peacefully alongside Hungarians as they do now, and as they did before Ceasescu's communist government.
We are not talkking about who "owns" the land, but who "governs' the land. It is unfair of Romanians to expect to continue to dominate ethnic minority Hungarians in the political administration of a region in which the latter forms a demographic majority of 80% !
@EuroAmerican02 As I said, you say that the Hungarians will swear to be loyal citizens, but you ignore the fact that most of the don't want autonomy, because they have the same rights as the Romanians. The Politicians do want autonomy because that will mean more money and a position in that autonomous region. Or we can return to the Imperialism: "Even if you don't want us to help you, we will still "help" you". The Hungarians of Romania say NO!
@AlexanderSSI A law is only as valid as its enforcement. Laws of alleged equality between Romanians and Hungarians in Romania do not exist, because they are ineffective, they are unenforced by the government, that is, the police. Enforcement all too often is in favor of ethnic Romanians, not ethnic Hungarians. Hungarians do want autonomy in Romania, at least according to 600,000 voters, who were denied this referendum by Basescu.
@EuroAmerican02 For years the Romanian government includes Hungarian ministers. Even the anti-discrimination authority is led by Hungarians for years. So I see no problem here, and these people are elected ever 4 years by the Hungarians themselves. Not to mention that every city hall of Harghita or Covasna is allmost 100% Hungarian, the mayors also. Even the Prefects of Covasna and Harghita are Hungarian.
@AlexanderSSI Apparently, you are a bit behind in the affairs of local government in the ethnic minority Hungarian regions of Romania, as municipal government by Hungarians has been replaced with those politicians who "happen" to belong to the same political party as Basescu. You have apparently failed to watch another video of mine, to which I now refer you, entitled "Hungarian Minority in Romania", /watch?v=rjM0tsCwvKo
@AlexanderSSI I would not pretend to speak on behalf of the 4,000 Romanians living in Hungary; how do you, then, have the pretense to speak on behalf of nearly 2 MILLION ethnic Hungarians living in Romania, especially when you consider that, at last count, more than 600,000 voted IN FAVOR of autonomy in Transylvania, specifically in Covasna, Harghita, and parts of Mures Counties?
@EuroAmerican02 I do not speak in behalf of no one. The ones that do not want autonomy can speak for themselves. As I see from your videos, you seem to want to speak in behalf of those 1.400.000 Hungarians from Romania.
@AlexanderSSI Indeed I do! They do not have the freedom of expression and of speech in Romania that the rest of us enjoy living in the Free World. And someone must speak up in their behalf. I find no shame in doing so; au contrer, I take no small measure of pride in it. By the way, I was recently informed that the voting public in Transylvania in favor of autonomy for Szekely Land has risen to 200,000!
@AlexanderSSI 10% should be a ration that would be impossible to ignore by a democratic system of government, but Basescu has done it despite this fact. It just goes to show that Romania is still far from being a democratic republic.
@AlexanderSSI How can you say there is equality between Romanians and Hungarians when this same majority vote was flatly ignored and denied by the Romanian government? If this had happened to the Romanian segment of the population, Romania would have had another 1989 revolution on its hands!
@AlexanderSSI FYI, there are many "normal" ethnic Hungarians on YouTube, although, admittedly, sadly, they are NOT the most vocal of the YT Hungarians. They do emphatically desire and long for autonomy in Szekelyfold, known as Szekely Land in English. I think we both know about which region of Romania I am alluding to. Romania is indeed for all Romanian citizens ~ with autonomy for those indigenous ethnic minorities who, under a democratic system of government, are entitled to it
FUCK ROMAnia!!!!! civilizálatlan oláhok!!! GO BACK INDIA!!!! HUNGARY 4EVER!!! fuu ezek a köcsög román cigányok de felbasszák az agyam-.-++"" Szebb jövöt!!!
by the way in fact there is something I like about your country....that you have so many good-looking bitches in your country which can't hold the shit in their bodies more than 9 months.... and wanna know a secret? they love romanian dicks and we fuck them whenever we want ...
@g0blin11 That's good, because I wouldn't fuck an AIDS-infested Rumanian CUNT whore bitch with even YOUR DICK!!!! No wonder you're all SHEEPFUCKERS ... Rumania WHERE THE MEN ARE MEN ~ AND THE SHEEP ARE NERVOUS!!! Ha!Ha!Ha!
so many people are countering that goat fucker euro-bozgoro-american :)))))...probably if he continues to post so many replies his fingers will soon be couched and his mother will unplug his computer for the rest of the year :))... he just tries to impress with his bozgorian bullshit but no one gives a fuck...he talks alone :)))) ...
@g0blin11 Yeah, so many of you ... I guess to Rumanians 2 or 3 is "so many", huh?!? hehehe ... at least, you're increasing my viewership ... don't you have some other bitches you can invite to this party, BOZGOR BITCH?!?
@g0blin11 YOU MUST BE NO ONE ... AS I TALK ALONE. You are really a dumbFUCK, aren't you?!? You don't even know what you're saying when youre trying to put me down ... you're hilarious!!! You fucked up buffoon!
FUCK YOUR EXTREMIST CAMPAIGNS.... Even if szekelys are a majority in those 2 counties they are still part of Romania and they will always be!! FUCK HUNGARY!
@g0blin11 No, FUCK YOU AND ANYONE WHO LOOKS LIKE YOU! Szekelys ARE a majority in territories in RUmania, and they deserve autonomy. FYI, this would not even affect Rumania in the least, but you are too much of a DUMBFUCK with his DICK in his mouth to even partly comprehend wtf you're even barking about! Now, get the fuck outta here, RETARD!
@gogoasacenusie: You don't seem to understand my objection to your argument. I accept these findings, but these findings do NOT conclusively prove that they belonged to, were produced by, or otherwise attributable to anything created by then so-called Rumanians.
Somehow you must tie it all together to demonstrate the "continuity" that is supposed to be understood by the term Daco-Roman-Romanian Continuity Theory. Instead, what we have is a gap of 1,000 years (a millenium) between the annihilation of the ancient Dacians and the appearance north of the Danube of the vlach shepherds migrating from the Balkans.
There is utterly no reason to visit Rumania in order to understand or comprehend the basic principles of cause and effect as it applies to history. But, thanks for the invitation anyway. :)
Ba pisatule, nici acum nu ai invatat cum se scrie corect ??????????Tragu-ti fata-n pula, de muist ordinar.SRAMIZEGETUSA bai boratura nu SarmiSegetusa-cu ZZZZZZZZ
This fucking idiot,doesn't know how is written correctly the the capital of Dacia-Sarmizegetusa Regia. He heard something and he barks like a dog.
@Bicska80: Thank you for the clarification. To tell you the truth, I never could trust a Rumanian-living-in-Italy, probably a gypsy roma, when he starts spouting off history lessons under one of my videos. :))) gogoasacenusie needs to learn history ~ AND MANNERS!
@gogoasacenusie: FIRST, you need to learn manners --- YOU ARE A GUEST UNDER MY VIDEO, YOU SONOFABITCH, AND YOU WILL NOT DIS ME, UNDERSTAND?????!!!!!!!!!!!
@gogoasacenusie: We can either engage in respectful dicourse about history, or I can BLOCK your dirty, filthy disrespectful ASS! YOUR CHOICE ~ FOR NOW!
seriously does your bitch mother know that you are using the PC for so many hours? if she finds out she'll unplug your computer you'll see :)))) can't you see your frustration that your nation is considered one os the most gay/fags throughout europe drives you so mad that you can barely find your words to insult me? :)))) by the way did you know long can a bozGAYrian woman keep the shit in her body? 9 months!
"Genetic testing on Romanian HLA groups have confirmed a distinct genetic affinity of the Romanians to Italians, indicating Roman ancestry."
where did you get this, of course no source
let me enlighten you, romans and romani gypsies are not the same, roman occupation of dacia was only 70 years, pannonia was 5 times more, we have more to do with romans but we dont say so
@gogoasacenusie: Dacians perhaps ~ Rumanians NEVER! The relationshp between Roman-era Dacians and modern-day Rumanians has not ever been conclusively proven through genetic tests or otherwise. There are no artifacts that even remotely resemble each other between the two distant cultures. So, you STFU and vacate my video comments!
Hungarian historian András Huszti affirms, in 1791:
"No other nation has a language as similar to Latin as the Vlachs. This is a sure sign which cannot deceive us that they are the followers of the old Roman colonies in Transylvania."
Emperor Joseph the Second of Austria about Romanians:
"Incontestably, the oldest and most numerous denizens of Transylvania."
Q.E.D All ugly attila haters, shut the fuck up and get ya ass back to Mongolia with your gypsy cousins
Justice will be served, I am sure of that. And when the time comes, there will be plenty of proof and evidence to support the hungarian cause.
-the systematic and ongoing genocide and ethnocide committed by the "romanians" in Transylvania since 1920 against the jewish, german and primarily against the hungarian indigenous minorities. The systematic evacuation and relocation of hungarians, the destruction of ethnic hungarian villages, the deportations to the labor-camps of the Danube delta...
TRANSYLVANIA was always a part of the historical Hungary since 896 A.D. and when part of Hungary was under Ottoman occupation Transylvania from 1541-1690 became an independent Hungarian Principality, under Hungarian rulers. The rulers of Transylvania were always hungarian princes as Bathori, Rakoczi, Bethlen, Rhedei, Kemeny. Apafy, Thokoly. They are all ancient hungarian families and NOT ONE was "rumanian" and Transylvania was never under "rumanian" rule until the Trianon Treaty (1920).
Well, what Traian Basescu said is exactly what you can expect from a "romanian". Sadly.
Backstabing, treachery, lying and swinging. These kind of tactics were critical for the so-called "romanians" in the past 150 years, during which time they trippled the size of their once no-name country!!! That is how they gained lands from bulgaria, hungary, etc;
They betray, they backstab, they promise and never follow up on those promises.
Transylvania is Hungarian, it was built by them! Period.
yes davidtzak ... fight hungarians tribes wich wore putted in romania ...... i wish that romanians maked that thing with budapest in 1918 puting romanians in budapest(same you did to us in covasna and harghita)..... so you couldnt wrote your comment now
CodrutzB2K2: Do you make it a career to visit each Hungarian video, criticize them, and rate them down? It seems you could do much more with your 19-year-old life than that. Oh, well, it's been said that Romanians have no life, and I guess you just continue to prove it.
The fact is that Hungarians were not "putted" in Romania, but became its residents beause Romania stole Transylvania from Hungarians.
Having read many of your comments I think our perceptions concur quite frequently. I've worn out several of these arrogant, blind Romanians to the point where they simply ran out of words. As soon as you get them to stop writing obscenities you pretty much take the wind out of their sails. As innocent as this forum seems it is a tool, which they use for spreading desinformation. If we don't engage them, the world will only get their side of the story. I'm glad you remained "hazafi" as did I. :)
The fact that Romanians occupied Budapest briefly in 1919 (not 1918), was the result of an Allied military action, not a solo campaign conducted solely by Romanians. So, get over it! Romanians do not have a brave bone in their bodies, and neither do you!
Romanians couldn't have lasted longer than 6 months in Budapest, because, as thieves, pillagers, and looters, Romanian military was on the verge of getting not only booted out of Hungary, but was risking losing Transylvania at the hands of the Allies due to these wartime crimes.
I just posted around 12 replies to your previous post but as I see you don't want to make them public. Probably because you found out that you're just a little extremist liar???
Look again, Mr. ROMANI-an! AND, contrary to my better judgment, I replied to every single one of your condescending remarks. But, YOU have YET to reply to mine. DEFINE EXTREMIST! Your next response had better be a reply to this request, or I WILL bar you from further communication under my videos. You will NOT insult me or fellow Hungarians under ANY of MY videos, clear???
yes indeed i have not. but my point is not your videos in particular, but the possibility of an autonomy in present political conditions. please make dacgerula's comments public, so we can get to know his views as well.
His comments AREand HAVE BEEN approved. If YouTube is slow to reveal them, I am not at fault. Please refresh this page frequently so that new additions will become visible to you.
After you'll read the results of the hungarian censuses from before 1914 and you'll find out that Romanians were always majoritary in Transilvania, and you still don't believe it then let me know and I'll provide you with about 30-40 excerpts from diferent history books (written by non-romanian historians and some of them written even by hungarian historians) which back stand this truth. If you'll not believe that ... then I am the brainwashed:))
In many parts of Transylvania, as I've already said, Romanians WERE and ARE in the majority, but NOT to the extent that some parts were comprised of a HUNGARIAN majority. THOSE parts should NOT have been ceded to Romania, because those areas were NOT Romanian.
When it was discovered that Romania had no majority in the region up to the Tisza River, contrary to Romania's agreement with the Entente, Romania did NOT receive that region. The same should have been applied to western regions of Transylvania, where lived nearly 3 million ethnic Hungarians. Despite this, one day they woke up to find themselves residents of Romania. That's justice?
i agree with you entirely as far as the sekler autonomy is concerned. i do find it depressing though that you are not at all willing to engage in an argument. thats hardly the liberal standpoint now, is it?
After hvaing viewed your profile, it's clear that you have not participated in very many YouTube political discussions involving Hungarians and their national enemies. FYI, liberalism is not synonymous with debate and argument, but mostly with personal insult, injury, prejorative comments and remarks, etc. ad infinitum ad nauseum, as I have been subjected to in the recent past. I.e., I have had more than my fair share of such "arguments".
It is strange that you consider that hungarians have national enemies. Me as a romanian I cannot ever consider that we have national enemies. If I would consider that probably that I would need to go see a doctor for paranoid distortion.
A funny anecdote goes something like this: Just because one is paranoid does not mean that someone is not actually out get him. This implies the opposite is also true. Just because you bury your head in the sand and ignore your problems does not mean that Romania does not have its more than fair share of national enemies.
well we are both hungarians. but lets not stifle free debate. if we do, we are but a bunch of idiotic lefties whom we are so determined not to ape. free debate, even if it hurts, helps to solve problems. i am not anymore than you a friend of romania, but if its not openly racist, and does not incite to hatred ,please allow the comments.
You misunderstand me. I am not stifling open debate under this video. If you want to debate dacgerula or anybody else, you have that option. I myself have no desire to continue to debate with him or any other anti-Hungarian. Ultimately, as you yourself will undoubtedly soon discover, such debates with such "people" will turn very ugly, very soon, and instead of debating the issues, you will find that you are defending yourself on a very personal level.
In case you were unaware of it, problems CANNOT be solved with YouTube videos OR video comments OR channel comments. Again, I am allowing open discussion, or debate, but I have the option of refrainiing from it, just as you have the option of engaging in it. Happy arguing! :)
I do respect your attitude and I'm happy to see people that are open to dialog. I strongly believe that there was too much hatred in the past and the only way to solve the "issues" is to create an Europe with no borders. I strongly believe that the main problems that Hungarians and Romanians are having are common and resides on the economical field. On the other hand...I should be understood if I take civilized attitude when someone is insulting my nation or my country.
Feel free to jump in anytime and have yourself a pleasant debate with dacgerula. He seems to be very eager to debate the virtues of Romania and Hungary with somebody, anybody. :))))
how are u proposing to prevent romanians from shutting down schools and from offending basic human rights? do not wanna sound like a broken record, but all that is happening in central europe is the making of the WEST. we do have one particular person to thank for: way to go woodrow wilson and liberal internationlism. your voice is and will be dwarfed as long as the status quo exists.
You really have no concept of what's happening in Romania, particularly in Transylvania, to the nearly 1.5 million Hungarians still living there, do you? And, rather than debate with Romanians, you prefer to debate with me, and get my dander up. Do you think that this video represents solely my voice or my opinion? And, just how do we go about changing the "status quo", by keeping silent about it?
well said. you are not. there is no way gonna change that. u can upload as many vids u want,thats not gonna change a damn thing. much as i know about the suffering of the people there, nothing can be done. thats called REALPOLITIK. You and i may not like it, but its there. can i just remind you that the people who caused this were the yanks, brits and french. as long as they are in control of international politics, your determination , though praiseworthy, is pretty much self-deception.
Far from a "broken record," you are the lone voice in a densely wooded forest. For your edification, more than 600,000 Hungarian voices votyed in favor of autonomy for the Hungarian Szeklers recently, but their voice was silenced by an oppressive anti-democratic Romanian government, citing its consitution as the basis for the denial of this fundamental right to self-determination of an ethnic minority.
It was not my voice. It was more than 600,000 voices! IGNORED! It was also the voice of the leader of the UMDR leader Marko Bela. IGNORED! It was also the voice of every Hungarian in the world. IGNORED! It WILL BE the voice of the European Parliament this month ~ NOT to be ignored! ~ when they hold a hearing about the subject of Szekler Autonomy in Kovaszna, Hargita, and part of Mures Counties in central Romania.
This is just an simple allegation:)) Unfortunately it is pretty pathetic. Those "600000 voices" do not exist for the simple fact that the usual people from those counties are not at all interested in politics as none of the usual people in Romania or Hungary are. You don't know that because you're not living here to see it day by day. You're collecting your information based on the YT movies you're watching and based on the forums from here.
You are sorely mistaken, My information is culled from the 5 different ethnic Hungarian Transylvanian websites that I subscirbe to that detail the current affairs of our people. You dismiss my facts as "simple allegations" ~ then YOU tell me how many Hungarians voted in June, 2009, for autonomy!!!! YOU tell me that UMDR Marko Bela did not speak before the Romanian government body and sought autonomy for Hungarian Szeklers!
Go ahead, DENY it, if your conscience will allow you to do so. IF YOU HAVE A CONSCIENCE. I give you a ot of credit by supposing that you have a conscience.
P.S. Don't forget what I said earlier: Either stay on the topic of this video, or leave this section. Frankly, I don't care what other questions you may contrive for me. If they are not relevant to this video, they will be disallowed. Good luck TO YOU!
Szekler =HUN=TURK=ATTILA
LeventAysan 1 month ago
@Liamay100 Your previous, comment has been removed, because youo apparently can write in English, which is preferrable to that pig latin language of Roumania. Thank you for your comment and cooperation.
EuroAmerican02 5 months ago
roumania is nothing but a multi-ethnic monstrosity....what is a roumanian anyway? Every person I've met from roumania here in the states is either a Hungarian, German, Gypsy, Tatar, Turk, Slav or some mixture. A Roumanian is just some BS nationality made up of many different peoples. Its just an enlarged backwater, historyless region created from stolen territories. The victorious powers in WW1 (France, England) didn't want a strong country in Central Europe..Austria-Hungary, so hence "roumania"
szatmari1 6 months ago
@szatmari1 igaz :)
paulicapopcorn 4 months ago
I admire the szekelys. They are very brave.
GermanArmy96 6 months ago
@GermanArmy96 They are indeed, my Saxon friend. That is one reason why the Romanian dictatorial goveernment, whose facade is democracy, keeps the Szekelys oppressed, instead of granting them autonomy, or the right of self-government. Romanians are paranoid and distrustful of Hungarians for no apparent reason, other than their self-guilt-ridden consciences for stealing Transylvania from the dismembered Kingdom of Hungary in 1920. Since then, the Szekelys have twice before had autonomy in Romania.
EuroAmerican02 6 months ago
@EuroAmerican02 Moreover, the Szekelys previously enjoyed full autonomy under the Hungarian kingdom for nearly 1,100 years. The previous years of autonomy under Romanian government were under a terrorist regime of communism under Ceasescu, but now autonomy is denied under a so-called democratic system of government. What kind of nonsense is this?
EuroAmerican02 6 months ago
The normal Romanian Citizen of Hungarian ethnicity does not want autonomy, nor anything else. Everything else is political propaganda.
Romania is for all Romanian citizens.
Long Live Romania!
AlexanderSSI 11 months ago
@AlexanderSSI Watch the video ~ AGAIN! I especially call your attention to 02:37. What is the basis for your ridiculous assertion? Have you ever heard of the Magyar Autonomous Region? In Romanian, Regiunea Autonomă Maghiară? (In Hungarian, Magyar Autonóm Tartomány.) What about Mureş-Magyar Autonomous Region? These were were autonomous regions in the People's Republic of Romania (later Socialist Republic of Romania) (1952-1960) and (1960-1968), respectively.
EuroAmerican02 11 months ago
@AlexanderSSI The total population of this region was, according to the 1956 census, composed of: Hungarians (77.3%), Romanians (20.1%), Gypsies (1.5%), Germans (0.4%) and Jews (0.4%). The official languages of the province were Hungarian and Romanian and the provincial administrative centre was Târgu-Mureş (Marosvásárhely).
EuroAmerican02 11 months ago
@EuroAmerican02 Ah yes, the Hungarian Communist Stalin-sponsored Autonomous Mureş Region. We are all past that. I was talking about the normal Hungarian who does not want what extremist politicians want.
AlexanderSSI 11 months ago
@AlexanderSSI AS usual, try to demonize Hungarians for that which Romanians enacted. FYI, these regions were under Ceasescu, and as I recall, he was a Romanian communist leader, NOT Hungarian. Moreover, he was at odds with Stalin, which inevitably led to his downfall. The overwhelming majority of Hungarians living in Romania desire autonomy.
EuroAmerican02 11 months ago
@EuroAmerican02 Don't try to victimize yourself, we all know very well that the Hungarians contribuited to the soviet invasion of Romania, they were even more than Romanians in the Communist Party before 1940. And after the war they joined the former Fascist became communists over night. So we don't have to cry for them, seriously!
Ceausescu did not created the autonomous region, it was Stalin's men who came to Romania to creat a communist republic, like Ana Pauker and Vasile Luka (Laszlo Luka).
AlexanderSSI 11 months ago
@AlexanderSSI I don't feel that either Hungary or Romania were victims of circumstances,. but were orchestrators of their own destinies. By the way, if you will recall, both Hungary and Romania were on the side of the Axis Powers during World War II, until Russia invaded Romania, at which time your hero, Antonescu, switched sides. The Hungarians were occupied by Nazi Germany, and were "liberated" by the Russians, much to the chagrin of the Hungarian people.
EuroAmerican02 11 months ago
@EuroAmerican02 Romania centranly was not the orchestrator of its own destiny. Because Romania was forced to be on the Axis side due to the fact that USSR took a big chunk of Romanian territory, and USSR was considered a bigger enemy than Germany. Romania did not had a choice, and even before 1940 it declared that it will remain neutral.
And Antonescu did not switched side, he was arrested by King Michael and Romania swiched sides. Hungary was a fascist country for many years by 1940!
AlexanderSSI 11 months ago
@AlexanderSSI On the contrary, Romania was indeed the orchestrator of its own destiny. It was Romania's CHOICE to fight on the side of Hitler and Mussolini. If the USSR took a piece of Romanian territory, then Romania should have taken it up with the USSR directly, the same way that Hungarians fought the USSR independently and without aid later in 1956! Romania had a choice, and it chose to become fascist, even Nazi.
EuroAmerican02 11 months ago
@AlexanderSSI But, this has nothing to do with the video or the topic of autonomy for Hungarian Szekelys living under Romanian dominion. Let's stay on-topic, shall we?
EuroAmerican02 11 months ago
@AlexanderSSI As for Ceausescu not creating the autonomous region, that is correct, because the history of Hungarian autonomy in Transylvania extends back in time much farther than his emergence to national power. Originally, the name Székely Land denoted an autonomous region within Transylvania.
EuroAmerican02 11 months ago
@AlexanderSSI It existed as a legal entity from medieval times until the Austro-Hungarian Compromise of 1867, when its role was replaced by the county system. Along with Transylvania, it became part of Romania in 1920, returned to Hungary in 1940 and was again attached to Romania in 1945. The area was an autonomous region within Romania between 1952–1968, and today there are Székely autonomy initiatives to reach a higher level of self-governance for the Székely Land within Romania.
EuroAmerican02 11 months ago
@AlexanderSSI Is it any less "normal" for a Hungarian in Romania to want autonomy than it is for a Romanian to desire to acquire and annex to Romania the independent countries of Moldova or Bessarabia? At least, Hungarians in Romania are asking for something that is democratically acceptable and legal in other democratic countries. Moreover, they are not asking to modify the integrity of Romania's borders in the least, and swear to remain Romania's loyal citizens.
EuroAmerican02 11 months ago
@EuroAmerican02 Actually, nobody wants to annex Bessarabia and Northern Bukovina, because these regions are inhabited by Romanians in majority and were taken from Romania illegally in 1940, we just want a Union, which means that when the Romanians from Bessarabia and Northern Bukovina will desire the Union with Romania it will be so. Annexation is what a Hungarian wants to do with Transylvania, to take a piece of a country with force and annex it. We are not in the same situation!
AlexanderSSI 11 months ago
@AlexanderSSI I completely disagree with you. There is no difference among the settlements, except one. The residents of Transylvania have been demographically diluted since the partitioning of Transylvania to Romania, i.e. Romanian laws concerning so-called "land reform", otherwise known as Romanianization, under which ethnic Romanians were rrelocated from various parts of Romania to Transylvania to reduce the numbers of ethnic Hungarians.
EuroAmerican02 11 months ago
@EuroAmerican02 I also disagree with you, the Romanian land reforms did not relocated populations, it just gave the land from the landlords to the people. Over 60000 Hungarians also received land from the Romanian state.
AlexanderSSI 11 months ago
@AlexanderSSI Then, let's agree to disagree with each other. Again, this has nothing to do now with the topic of this video or with autonomy for the Hungarian Szekely ethnic population living in Romania.
EuroAmerican02 11 months ago
@AlexanderSSI For example, Cluj-Napoca, formerly Kolozsvar, the Hungarian capital city of Transylvania, formerly enjoyed a Hungarian majority of 80% but was reduced through Romanianization to a minority of merely 20% between 1920 and 2002. There are other similar examples found around the region.
EuroAmerican02 11 months ago
@EuroAmerican02 Cluj Napoca indeed enjoyed a Hungarian majority, but that was due to the anti-romanian laws of the former Hungarian state who did no permitted Romanians to settle in cities. What happened after 1918 was just a natural population boost in the cities, because for the first time the Romanians and all the nationalities of Transilvania were given the right to settle wherever they choose. The same is true for all the cities of Transilvania.
AlexanderSSI 11 months ago
@AlexanderSSI I find this too incredible to believe, and if it were on-topic in the least, I would ask for your sources for this kind of information, or, as far as I know, misinformation. But, it is not relevant to the video or the discussion about autonomy for Hungarian Szekelys living in Roomania today, so I will not ask for your reference information, but will dismiss it as irrelevant.
EuroAmerican02 11 months ago
@AlexanderSSI In fairness to both Hungarians and Romanians, many parts of Transylvania did indeed contain a majority of ethnic Romanians and those parts were justifiably appended to Romania; however, the northern part of Transylvania was clearly composed of a majority of ethnic Hungarians and should have remained under Hungarian control even after Trianon if Trianon had been even remotely just.
EuroAmerican02 11 months ago
@EuroAmerican02 Incorrect, i present you one conclusive evidence. Even if you could carve up the map of Transilvania to include the Hungarians and give it to Hungary, like they tried in 1940, you would still have a 50% majority of Romanians, like in 1940. You cannot carve up a piece of Transilvania to include a majority of Hungarians!
AlexanderSSI 11 months ago
@AlexanderSSI Conclusive evidence according to what source of information? Transylvania did not have to be carved up in any particular fashion to show a majority of ethnic Hungarians living in the northern part of that province. If we look at contemporary statistics, it may now be true that Hungarians no longer form a majority there, due, in no small measure, to attrition and to Romanianzation.
EuroAmerican02 11 months ago
@EuroAmerican02 I know it is hard to admitt it, but you have to recognize that the Hungarians tried to Hungarize massively Transylvania, to create passages to connect the Szeklers with the Hungarians even before 1918, even newspaper journalist from those times knew it. So in the end, the Hungarians failed at their own game. They tried to hungarize Transilvania but there was no time, thank God!
AlexanderSSI 11 months ago
@AlexanderSSI It is not difficult to admit that there was a certain degree of Magyarization that occurred after 1867, the same as the Romanianization that occurred in Transylvania and the rest of Romania after 1920, or that a Latinization of the Romanian Slavic language occurred at about the same time.
EuroAmerican02 11 months ago
@AlexanderSSI But, it did not occur to the degree ("massively") to which you allueded, nor did it occur for the purpose which you suppose (" to create passages to connect the Szeklers with the Hungarians even before 1918").
EuroAmerican02 11 months ago
@AlexanderSSI After all, the Kingdom of Hungary was one continuous territory and Hungarians in Hungary were naturally joined to their brothers in Transylvania prior to 1918 and for a brief period in 1940. There was no need for Magyarization when they were already citizens of the same kingdom and joined by land to form a border with Poland.
Again, this is incongruous with the topic of the video or the discussion of autonomy for the Hungarian Szekelys of Romania.
EuroAmerican02 11 months ago
@AlexanderSSI The same is true today for other regions and areas bordering on today's Hungary. Hungarians still form an ethnic majority on all her borders, including southern Slovakia and northern Serbia, to name two.
EuroAmerican02 11 months ago
@AlexanderSSI When Hungary repossessed northern Transylvania in 1940 with the approval of the Axis Powers, it was NOT angry Romanians who greeted Adm. Horthy as he paraded into Nagyvarad and Kolozsvar on the back of his white Lipizaner stallion, but ethnic Hungarians celebrating the reunion with Hungary.
EuroAmerican02 11 months ago
@EuroAmerican02 Wel of course the Romanians did not greeted the Admiral of Lake Balaton Horthy. The Romanians either fled occupied Transilvania either stayed in their homes and to suffer killings that took place shortly. And again, there was no union between North-Western Transilvania, it was an annexation!
AlexanderSSI 11 months ago
@AlexanderSSI First, tread lightly! I have been careful to avoid insulting your national hero, Antonescu, so I'll ask you to refrain from insulting ours, Admiral Miklos Horthy!!
Union or annexation ~ it's the same cause-and-effect, just a difference in semantics.
Again, please restrict your discussion to the topic of the video and the autonomy of Hungarian Szekelys in Transylvania, Romania.
EuroAmerican02 11 months ago
@EuroAmerican02 There's no Hungarian ethnic majority near west Romanian border,on a contrary,there is a Romanian ethnic majority in Hungary next to your east border,Romanians left outside RO by Trianon.In 90 years you magyarised half a million Romanian ethnics left in Hungary.The true Romanian historic and geographic border is Tisa river,but Trianon split the region in two,like they splited historical Moldova,Banat,Bucovina,Dobrogea.Every neighbour took half of our Romanian inhabited regions
MrCraiessou 11 months ago
@MrCraiessou Please tell me what, if anything, this has to do with this video. The video, as far as I know, mentions nothing about Trianon. In addition, as far as I know, Romanians on YouTube believe that Trianon was a just solution to a very complicated problem, because, among other things, it served to subdivide a huge and great kingdom. So, let's not even discuss Trianon and its effects here, shall we? This video and these comments are about autonomy for Szekely Land in Romania.
EuroAmerican02 11 months ago
@EuroAmerican02 It's a reply for your previous comm.There's no such thing szekely land,the private people with szekely ethnicity do not own Romanian territories,we are all Romanian citizens and all Romania is our land,in a collective manner.The szeklers are probably a mixture of turanics,Romanians and Magyars,a handful of people living in mixed villages and towns,they own their houses,gardens but they have the same rights as Romanians in HU,or Romanians in RO,they don't own
mountains,rivers,air
MrCraiessou 11 months ago
@MrCraiessou I'm afraid that you are not as familiar with your country's political divisions and subdivisions as you may think you are. In a quote from Wikipedia, please note "The Székely Land or in Hungarian: Székelyföld; Romanian: Ţinutul Secuiesc; German: Szeklerland; Latin: Terra Siculorum) or Szekler Land refers to the territories inhabited mainly by the Székely, a Hungarian-speaking ethnic group from eastern Transylvania.
EuroAmerican02 11 months ago
@MrCraiessou They live in the valleys and hills of the Eastern Carpathian Mountains, corresponding to the present-day Harghita, Covasna, and parts of Mureş Counties in Romania." The article continues very concisely and precisely, as follows: "Originally, the name Székely Land denoted an autonomous region within Transylvania.
EuroAmerican02 11 months ago
@MrCraiessou It existed as a legal entity from medieval times until the Austro-Hungarian Compromise of 1867, when its role was replaced by the county system. Along with Transylvania, it became part of Romania in 1920, returned to Hungary in 1940 and was again attached to Romania in 1945. The area was an autonomous region within Romania between 1952–1968, and today there are Székely autonomy initiatives to reach a higher level of self-governance for the Székely Land within Romania."
EuroAmerican02 11 months ago
@MrCraiessou So, as you can see, Szeklers are not a mixturee of anything, but descendants of Attila the Hun left behind aas a rear guard since the 5th century A.D. They are, in fact, Hungarian! Next, there was, is, and will remain a Szekely Land in Romania, even if the EU, EP, NATO, and the U.N. must enforce it, because it is a democratic symbol of the will of a 200,000 majority of the people in the region, comprised of a majority of 80% ethnic Hungarians.
EuroAmerican02 11 months ago
@MrCraiessou It was not the Szeklers' choice to become part of Romania, but the result of an unjust political mandate in 1920 based on deliberately erroneous statistics furnished by Roumania to the Allies. The so-called "handful of people" as you alluded to them, and you must have VERY big hands, consists of more than 2.5 MILLION souls! And, while legally they may possess some of the same rights as ethnic Romanians, those laws are essentiually unenforced, so they are meaningless.
EuroAmerican02 11 months ago
@MrCraiessou Such exasperation and frustration usually leads to civil strife ~ autonomy is the ONLY viable and practical, the only DEMOCRATIC, solution!
EuroAmerican02 11 months ago
@EuroAmerican02 All you said is just your imagination and wishful thinking.There are just 1.3 mill.Hungarian-speakers in RO,Magyars,Szeklers and Hungarian Gypsies.In Harghita and Covasna (the real names for your imaginary seccesionist land) live 300 000 Hungarians,they have not the right to steal and enclose that Romanian region.F.ex.my town is not mine,it belongs to every person living in RO,maybe in the opposite corner,no matter his ethnicity.RO citizens are FREE inside Ro and so we will stay
MrCraiessou 11 months ago
@MrCraiessou This is where the misunderstanding between Romanians and ethnic Hungarians living in Romania stems from: the Hungarian minority has NO desire to secede from the sovereign state of Romania. They merely desire autonomy, which simply means self-government under and within the boundaries of the Romanian constitution. There is no plan to produce a separate country in the middle of Romania, or to otherwise mitigate the integrity of the Romanian nation.
EuroAmerican02 6 months ago
@EuroAmerican02 Come on,man!Are we small children?are you a small child?The Hungarians(the ones with autonomy initaitives) want to secede from Romania with a great chunk of land and give this land as a gift to Hungary.
MrCraiessou 6 months ago
@MrCraiessou Now who's being the child? Want to "give" land as a "gift"? You have to be out of your mind with traditional Romanian paranoia and distrust. So, that's what you Romanians believe?! Now I understand why you fear Hungarians and why you want to keep them under your thumbs. Well, believe me, where a spirit of self-determination and self-government exists, there will be no peace between the ethnic minority and the dominant, oppressive majority.
EuroAmerican02 6 months ago
@EuroAmerican02 Indeed you 're not a child,you are an hypocrite magyar extremist trying to reach his goal by lies and deceception.Beside you,there are hundreds of Hungarian honest extremists who tell us every day their true sentiments and wishes for Romania.They hate Romania and want to colonize Transilvania again like in medieval horror times.They call us their servants,inferior race like they are some feudal masters,they want Territory and they act insane against us.And they are PROUD to tell
MrCraiessou 6 months ago
@MrCraiessou Excuse me, I thought I was engaged in dialogue with an "intelligent" Romanian, but I can clearly perceive now that I am sadly mistaken. You, Sir or Madam, are a racist bigot, no question about it. You STEROTYPE me, then CATEGORIZE me, without knowing anything about me. If I had mentioned anything at all colonizing Transylvania, or any of the other nonsense you alluded to, I could understand your frustration and anger toward me. But, I said nothing about anything else but autonomy.
EuroAmerican02 6 months ago
@MrCraiessou You have not disproved anything I've said so far to you (or to anyone else under this video), yet you call me a liar. I think it would be advisable now if you simply left these messages unanswered and left my video. I reserve comments for intelligent people, of which I've sadly found too few among the Romanians on YouTube! Goodbye ... and enjoy your anti-Hungarian mania ~ while you still can!
EuroAmerican02 6 months ago
@EuroAmerican02 Thank you for showing so quicly your true face! Here we go,"stupid'Romanians","go away, goodbye,you 're too stupid for my Hungarian superiority". I wonder why you didn't block me yet.Probably because you like so much to talk all by yourself .
MrCraiessou 6 months ago
@MrCraiessou My so-called true face has been the only one I know to show you, because, contrary to the popular belief of Romanian nationalist-extremists like yourself, I am honest and can only be the person that I am. I don't know how to be anyone else, nor do I have any desire to play games with you, Romanian. Lest I disappoint you, I will now block you, because I enjoy talking to myself ~ the fact is that I would rather talk to myself than to an ignorant Romanian like you! Goodbye!
EuroAmerican02 6 months ago
@MrCraiessou troll....the colonists were you vlachs (balkan nomads)...and you know it.
szatmari1 6 months ago
@MrCraiessou This has been proven to be true (21 times in Europe to be exact ~ there are 21 separate and variable forms of autonomies TODAY in Europe at the present time) . All are at peace with the ruling governments of those countries! Moreover, no borders were modified, re-drawn, or otherwise restructured as a consequence of their autonomies either. So, what else is Romania's problem with Hungarian autonomy if not for a morbid fear of Hungarians in general?
EuroAmerican02 6 months ago
@EuroAmerican02 ”There is no plan to produce a separate country in the middle of Romania” yeah, right... BULLSHIT. Who do you think you're fooling??? The plan is EXACTLY this one - to make a new country, just like Kosovo! Your own propaganda pastor, Tokes Laszlo (the former Securitate collaborator - anticommunist my ass!) said so - he wants Kosovo all over again, in the middle of Romania this time!
aquario008 6 months ago
@aquario008 It is clear that one who does not believe in GOD is not likely to believe anything that a Hungarian will say ~ I'm not the least surprised by your nationalist-extremist-atheist-anti-Hungarian-antisemitic-anti-Zionist-anti-Jewish sentiments. I'm also not surprised by your being in league with the likes of MadeInRomania, or whatever that juvenile delinquent transvestite calls itself these days. Its days on YouTube are numbered, not unlike yours.
EuroAmerican02 6 months ago
@aquario008 fear us little bozgorica, you fear those you hate....its only a matter of time
szatmari1 6 months ago
@szatmari1 has the little EuroPimp called you to the rescue? I don't fear you or any irredentist shithead like you.
aquario008 6 months ago
@aquario008 It is obvious that have no fear of anyone, because you are too stupid, too ignorant, too moronic, too imbecilic to know whom to fear and when. A-queer-io, who are YOU going to call to your rescue? Between us, we both know the REAL shithead, the TRUE fuckface, is YOU!
EuroAmerican02 6 months ago
@EuroAmerican02 EuroTrashPimp, fucktards like you are a dime a dozen, you foolish separatist trolls lie all over the Internet, paid by the propaganda machines of G Soros and other morons... it must be a really pathetic life you lead, from paycheck to paycheck. tell me, do they pay you by the hour, or by the word, or what? only a retard like you or szatmari1 can make a living by spreading lies, hatred and garbage about Romania on the net....fuckface.
aquario008 6 months ago
@aquario008 You have made it abundantly, painfully clewar that you are not only misguided, but that you are mentally deranged as well. It is also clear at this point that have no interest in discussing the topic of this video, but only come here to personally insult the viewers, readers, and, not least of all, me, with your personal insults and false condemnations. Moreover, you are spamming me with the same identical comments under other videos of mine.
EuroAmerican02 6 months ago
@aquario008 So, It is that, lacking any desire to continue this name-calling contest with you, and without any sadness or remorse whatsoever, that I BLOCK you without the least reluctance. Now, return to your Bucharest orphanage and tell them that society has rebuked you once again and that you need more guidance in the art of civilitude and social behavior.
EuroAmerican02 6 months ago
@szatmari1 Don't worry ~ he has his reply. ;) Thank you for your comments under my video.
EuroAmerican02 6 months ago
@MrCraiessou Why can't you and Baisescu get this through your thick skulls?
Next, for your edification, statistics clearly show an ethnic Hungarian majority population of 80% at 650,000 Hungarians living in the ancestral home of Szekely Land, comprised of Harghita, Covasna, and part of Mures Counties. These are the indigenous regions for which autonomy is sought.
EuroAmerican02 6 months ago
@MrCraiessou Autonomy does not mean that ethinc Romanians must move or relocate, they can live peacefully alongside Hungarians as they do now, and as they did before Ceasescu's communist government.
We are not talkking about who "owns" the land, but who "governs' the land. It is unfair of Romanians to expect to continue to dominate ethnic minority Hungarians in the political administration of a region in which the latter forms a demographic majority of 80% !
EuroAmerican02 6 months ago
@EuroAmerican02 As I said, you say that the Hungarians will swear to be loyal citizens, but you ignore the fact that most of the don't want autonomy, because they have the same rights as the Romanians. The Politicians do want autonomy because that will mean more money and a position in that autonomous region. Or we can return to the Imperialism: "Even if you don't want us to help you, we will still "help" you". The Hungarians of Romania say NO!
AlexanderSSI 11 months ago
@AlexanderSSI A law is only as valid as its enforcement. Laws of alleged equality between Romanians and Hungarians in Romania do not exist, because they are ineffective, they are unenforced by the government, that is, the police. Enforcement all too often is in favor of ethnic Romanians, not ethnic Hungarians. Hungarians do want autonomy in Romania, at least according to 600,000 voters, who were denied this referendum by Basescu.
EuroAmerican02 11 months ago
@EuroAmerican02 For years the Romanian government includes Hungarian ministers. Even the anti-discrimination authority is led by Hungarians for years. So I see no problem here, and these people are elected ever 4 years by the Hungarians themselves. Not to mention that every city hall of Harghita or Covasna is allmost 100% Hungarian, the mayors also. Even the Prefects of Covasna and Harghita are Hungarian.
AlexanderSSI 11 months ago
@AlexanderSSI Apparently, you are a bit behind in the affairs of local government in the ethnic minority Hungarian regions of Romania, as municipal government by Hungarians has been replaced with those politicians who "happen" to belong to the same political party as Basescu. You have apparently failed to watch another video of mine, to which I now refer you, entitled "Hungarian Minority in Romania", /watch?v=rjM0tsCwvKo
EuroAmerican02 11 months ago
@AlexanderSSI I would not pretend to speak on behalf of the 4,000 Romanians living in Hungary; how do you, then, have the pretense to speak on behalf of nearly 2 MILLION ethnic Hungarians living in Romania, especially when you consider that, at last count, more than 600,000 voted IN FAVOR of autonomy in Transylvania, specifically in Covasna, Harghita, and parts of Mures Counties?
EuroAmerican02 11 months ago
@EuroAmerican02 I do not speak in behalf of no one. The ones that do not want autonomy can speak for themselves. As I see from your videos, you seem to want to speak in behalf of those 1.400.000 Hungarians from Romania.
AlexanderSSI 11 months ago
@AlexanderSSI Indeed I do! They do not have the freedom of expression and of speech in Romania that the rest of us enjoy living in the Free World. And someone must speak up in their behalf. I find no shame in doing so; au contrer, I take no small measure of pride in it. By the way, I was recently informed that the voting public in Transylvania in favor of autonomy for Szekely Land has risen to 200,000!
EuroAmerican02 11 months ago
@AlexanderSSI 10% should be a ration that would be impossible to ignore by a democratic system of government, but Basescu has done it despite this fact. It just goes to show that Romania is still far from being a democratic republic.
EuroAmerican02 11 months ago
@AlexanderSSI How can you say there is equality between Romanians and Hungarians when this same majority vote was flatly ignored and denied by the Romanian government? If this had happened to the Romanian segment of the population, Romania would have had another 1989 revolution on its hands!
EuroAmerican02 11 months ago
@AlexanderSSI Now, tell me, what objection does Romania have to granting autonomy to the Szekler Hungarians?
EuroAmerican02 11 months ago
@AlexanderSSI FYI, there are many "normal" ethnic Hungarians on YouTube, although, admittedly, sadly, they are NOT the most vocal of the YT Hungarians. They do emphatically desire and long for autonomy in Szekelyfold, known as Szekely Land in English. I think we both know about which region of Romania I am alluding to. Romania is indeed for all Romanian citizens ~ with autonomy for those indigenous ethnic minorities who, under a democratic system of government, are entitled to it
EuroAmerican02 6 months ago
Europe to Europeans !!! Mongols out!!!
unomnacajit11 11 months ago
@unomnacajit11 Learn a history stupid! The Turkishs would have devastated your unfortunate nation already if we would not have been.
Kicsi87 11 months ago
Go back in mongolia you gypsy hungarians
33Bulan33 11 months ago
FUCK ROMAnia!!!!! civilizálatlan oláhok!!! GO BACK INDIA!!!! HUNGARY 4EVER!!! fuu ezek a köcsög román cigányok de felbasszák az agyam-.-++"" Szebb jövöt!!!
zyntherius94 1 year ago
Kitartás testvérek! Közel a győzelem!!!
Attila1025 1 year ago
szeklerland is as real as alice's wonderland. so my hunGAYrian enemy keep on dreaming, we romanians will never let you take our homeland away!!!
NU EXISTA PAMANT SECUIESC!!!
CostyBoy90 1 year ago
@CostyBoy90 You are homeless Gypsy!
Kicsi87 11 months ago
FUCK HUNGARY! death to all you bozgors....
g0blin11 1 year ago
@g0blin11 Ha!Ha!hA! ONLY IN YOUR WETTEST DREAMS! FUCK RUMANIA! LONG LIFE TO RUMANIANS ... as SLAVES OF HUNGARIANS!
EuroAmerican02 1 year ago
by the way in fact there is something I like about your country....that you have so many good-looking bitches in your country which can't hold the shit in their bodies more than 9 months.... and wanna know a secret? they love romanian dicks and we fuck them whenever we want ...
g0blin11 1 year ago
@g0blin11 That's good, because I wouldn't fuck an AIDS-infested Rumanian CUNT whore bitch with even YOUR DICK!!!! No wonder you're all SHEEPFUCKERS ... Rumania WHERE THE MEN ARE MEN ~ AND THE SHEEP ARE NERVOUS!!! Ha!Ha!Ha!
EuroAmerican02 1 year ago
so many people are countering that goat fucker euro-bozgoro-american :)))))...probably if he continues to post so many replies his fingers will soon be couched and his mother will unplug his computer for the rest of the year :))... he just tries to impress with his bozgorian bullshit but no one gives a fuck...he talks alone :)))) ...
g0blin11 1 year ago
@g0blin11 Yeah, so many of you ... I guess to Rumanians 2 or 3 is "so many", huh?!? hehehe ... at least, you're increasing my viewership ... don't you have some other bitches you can invite to this party, BOZGOR BITCH?!?
EuroAmerican02 1 year ago
@g0blin11 YOU MUST BE NO ONE ... AS I TALK ALONE. You are really a dumbFUCK, aren't you?!? You don't even know what you're saying when youre trying to put me down ... you're hilarious!!! You fucked up buffoon!
EuroAmerican02 1 year ago
@g0blin11 you fail hard vlach
awesome3468 1 year ago
FUCK YOUR EXTREMIST CAMPAIGNS.... Even if szekelys are a majority in those 2 counties they are still part of Romania and they will always be!! FUCK HUNGARY!
g0blin11 1 year ago
@g0blin11 No, FUCK YOU AND ANYONE WHO LOOKS LIKE YOU! Szekelys ARE a majority in territories in RUmania, and they deserve autonomy. FYI, this would not even affect Rumania in the least, but you are too much of a DUMBFUCK with his DICK in his mouth to even partly comprehend wtf you're even barking about! Now, get the fuck outta here, RETARD!
huncutAttila03 1 year ago
Continuation...
....brick found at Gornea, inscription on bronze object
found at Biertan (reading "EGO ZENOVIUS VOTUM POSUI").
- Walls erected in the 4th century at Sarmizegetusa
Come to Romania and check them all. And learn the true history, not the one promoted by frustrated hungayrians. Buh-bye
gogoasacenusie 2 years ago
@gogoasacenusie: You don't seem to understand my objection to your argument. I accept these findings, but these findings do NOT conclusively prove that they belonged to, were produced by, or otherwise attributable to anything created by then so-called Rumanians.
EuroAmerican02 2 years ago
Somehow you must tie it all together to demonstrate the "continuity" that is supposed to be understood by the term Daco-Roman-Romanian Continuity Theory. Instead, what we have is a gap of 1,000 years (a millenium) between the annihilation of the ancient Dacians and the appearance north of the Danube of the vlach shepherds migrating from the Balkans.
EuroAmerican02 2 years ago
There is utterly no reason to visit Rumania in order to understand or comprehend the basic principles of cause and effect as it applies to history. But, thanks for the invitation anyway. :)
EuroAmerican02 2 years ago
Numerous archaeological sites prove the continuity of Latin settlements north of the Danube the evacuation of 271 , including:
- Daco-Roman ceramic artifacts from the 5th-6th centuries, found at: Bratei, Soporu de Câmpie, Verbiţa, Sarata Monteoru
- Christian tombs and objects found at: Cluj-Napoca, Alba-Iulia, Biertan, Dej
- Many inscriptions in the Latin language: inscriptions on silver ring from Micia, ceramic objects from Porolissum, and continuation....
gogoasacenusie 2 years ago
And MORE:
"Genetic testing on Romanian HLA groups have confirmed a distinct genetic affinity of the Romanians to Italians, indicating Roman ancestry"
Coward hungarians, i don't even blame you. I blame the retards who taught you this. 99% of all hystorians on this planet agree with us.
Genetic tests have been made.
Dacians are here since the Bronze age, huns came in 370 AD.
There are TONS of artifacts, documents.
Sarmisegetusa the capital of Dacia is here in Romania
How about you STFU
gogoasacenusie 2 years ago
@gogoasacenusie
Ba pisatule, nici acum nu ai invatat cum se scrie corect ??????????Tragu-ti fata-n pula, de muist ordinar.SRAMIZEGETUSA bai boratura nu SarmiSegetusa-cu ZZZZZZZZ
This fucking idiot,doesn't know how is written correctly the the capital of Dacia-Sarmizegetusa Regia. He heard something and he barks like a dog.
May you trust "historians" like this????
Bicska80 2 years ago
@Bicska80: Thank you for the clarification. To tell you the truth, I never could trust a Rumanian-living-in-Italy, probably a gypsy roma, when he starts spouting off history lessons under one of my videos. :))) gogoasacenusie needs to learn history ~ AND MANNERS!
EuroAmerican02 2 years ago
@EuroAmerican02
"Genetic testing on Romanian HLA groups have confirmed a distinct genetic affinity of the Romanians to Italians, indicating Roman ancestry."
You should learn hystory and stop being a hypocrite.
FACT and Q.E.D
gogoasacenusie 2 years ago
@gogoasacenusie: FIRST, you need to learn manners --- YOU ARE A GUEST UNDER MY VIDEO, YOU SONOFABITCH, AND YOU WILL NOT DIS ME, UNDERSTAND?????!!!!!!!!!!!
EuroAmerican02 2 years ago
@gogoasacenusie: We can either engage in respectful dicourse about history, or I can BLOCK your dirty, filthy disrespectful ASS! YOUR CHOICE ~ FOR NOW!
EuroAmerican02 2 years ago
seriously does your bitch mother know that you are using the PC for so many hours? if she finds out she'll unplug your computer you'll see :)))) can't you see your frustration that your nation is considered one os the most gay/fags throughout europe drives you so mad that you can barely find your words to insult me? :)))) by the way did you know long can a bozGAYrian woman keep the shit in her body? 9 months!
g0blin11 1 year ago
@gogoasacenusie
"Genetic testing on Romanian HLA groups have confirmed a distinct genetic affinity of the Romanians to Italians, indicating Roman ancestry."
where did you get this, of course no source
let me enlighten you, romans and romani gypsies are not the same, roman occupation of dacia was only 70 years, pannonia was 5 times more, we have more to do with romans but we dont say so
Gellande 2 years ago
@gogoasacenusie: Dacians perhaps ~ Rumanians NEVER! The relationshp between Roman-era Dacians and modern-day Rumanians has not ever been conclusively proven through genetic tests or otherwise. There are no artifacts that even remotely resemble each other between the two distant cultures. So, you STFU and vacate my video comments!
EuroAmerican02 2 years ago
Hungarian historian András Huszti affirms, in 1791:
"No other nation has a language as similar to Latin as the Vlachs. This is a sure sign which cannot deceive us that they are the followers of the old Roman colonies in Transylvania."
Emperor Joseph the Second of Austria about Romanians:
"Incontestably, the oldest and most numerous denizens of Transylvania."
Q.E.D All ugly attila haters, shut the fuck up and get ya ass back to Mongolia with your gypsy cousins
gogoasacenusie 2 years ago
yes, keep dreaming...
mcodre2005 2 years ago
Justice will be served, I am sure of that. And when the time comes, there will be plenty of proof and evidence to support the hungarian cause.
-the systematic and ongoing genocide and ethnocide committed by the "romanians" in Transylvania since 1920 against the jewish, german and primarily against the hungarian indigenous minorities. The systematic evacuation and relocation of hungarians, the destruction of ethnic hungarian villages, the deportations to the labor-camps of the Danube delta...
themagnussons 2 years ago
TRANSYLVANIA was always a part of the historical Hungary since 896 A.D. and when part of Hungary was under Ottoman occupation Transylvania from 1541-1690 became an independent Hungarian Principality, under Hungarian rulers. The rulers of Transylvania were always hungarian princes as Bathori, Rakoczi, Bethlen, Rhedei, Kemeny. Apafy, Thokoly. They are all ancient hungarian families and NOT ONE was "rumanian" and Transylvania was never under "rumanian" rule until the Trianon Treaty (1920).
themagnussons 2 years ago
Well, what Traian Basescu said is exactly what you can expect from a "romanian". Sadly.
Backstabing, treachery, lying and swinging. These kind of tactics were critical for the so-called "romanians" in the past 150 years, during which time they trippled the size of their once no-name country!!! That is how they gained lands from bulgaria, hungary, etc;
They betray, they backstab, they promise and never follow up on those promises.
Transylvania is Hungarian, it was built by them! Period.
themagnussons 2 years ago 2
themagnussons: Thank you for the comment, my friend, because I couldn't have expressed it better myself! I agree with your assessment 100%!
EuroAmerican02 2 years ago
@EuroAmerican02 No problem! United we stand...
Long live Szekler Independence!
themagnussons 2 years ago
yes davidtzak ... fight hungarians tribes wich wore putted in romania ...... i wish that romanians maked that thing with budapest in 1918 puting romanians in budapest(same you did to us in covasna and harghita)..... so you couldnt wrote your comment now
CodrutzB2K2 2 years ago
CodrutzB2K2: Do you make it a career to visit each Hungarian video, criticize them, and rate them down? It seems you could do much more with your 19-year-old life than that. Oh, well, it's been said that Romanians have no life, and I guess you just continue to prove it.
The fact is that Hungarians were not "putted" in Romania, but became its residents beause Romania stole Transylvania from Hungarians.
EuroAmerican02 2 years ago
Having read many of your comments I think our perceptions concur quite frequently. I've worn out several of these arrogant, blind Romanians to the point where they simply ran out of words. As soon as you get them to stop writing obscenities you pretty much take the wind out of their sails. As innocent as this forum seems it is a tool, which they use for spreading desinformation. If we don't engage them, the world will only get their side of the story. I'm glad you remained "hazafi" as did I. :)
norbico1 2 years ago
The fact that Romanians occupied Budapest briefly in 1919 (not 1918), was the result of an Allied military action, not a solo campaign conducted solely by Romanians. So, get over it! Romanians do not have a brave bone in their bodies, and neither do you!
EuroAmerican02 2 years ago
@EuroAmerican02
Romanian Army occupied Budapest in August 1919 and eliberated Hungary from the Bela Kun's bolshevics.
It was a 100% romanian campaign and it was a counterattack against the Hungarian Red Army who attacked Romania.
Budapest was for 4 months under romanian authority.
mcodre2005 2 years ago
Romanians couldn't have lasted longer than 6 months in Budapest, because, as thieves, pillagers, and looters, Romanian military was on the verge of getting not only booted out of Hungary, but was risking losing Transylvania at the hands of the Allies due to these wartime crimes.
EuroAmerican02 2 years ago
@CodrutzB2K2 - You are on wrong (dark) side !
The Romanian state oppress millions of Hungarians the acientors of Transylvania. Everybody has to fight for human rights. You are against ! Why ?
DavidItzak 2 years ago
SZÉKELYFÖLD A SZÉKELYEKÉ!
HungarianRequiem 2 years ago
There is Alfabe look like ORKUN
Azerikurtlari 2 years ago
Israel is suporting Szekler Land for Authonomy and Freedom !
Fight dear Hungarians for your freedom !
Keep on FIGHTING !!!
DavidItzak 2 years ago
Hey mister EuroAmerican:)
I just posted around 12 replies to your previous post but as I see you don't want to make them public. Probably because you found out that you're just a little extremist liar???
dacgerula 2 years ago
Look again, Mr. ROMANI-an! AND, contrary to my better judgment, I replied to every single one of your condescending remarks. But, YOU have YET to reply to mine. DEFINE EXTREMIST! Your next response had better be a reply to this request, or I WILL bar you from further communication under my videos. You will NOT insult me or fellow Hungarians under ANY of MY videos, clear???
EuroAmerican02 2 years ago
yes indeed i have not. but my point is not your videos in particular, but the possibility of an autonomy in present political conditions. please make dacgerula's comments public, so we can get to know his views as well.
TheHungarianOak 2 years ago
His comments AREand HAVE BEEN approved. If YouTube is slow to reveal them, I am not at fault. Please refresh this page frequently so that new additions will become visible to you.
EuroAmerican02 2 years ago
After you'll read the results of the hungarian censuses from before 1914 and you'll find out that Romanians were always majoritary in Transilvania, and you still don't believe it then let me know and I'll provide you with about 30-40 excerpts from diferent history books (written by non-romanian historians and some of them written even by hungarian historians) which back stand this truth. If you'll not believe that ... then I am the brainwashed:))
dacgerula 2 years ago
In many parts of Transylvania, as I've already said, Romanians WERE and ARE in the majority, but NOT to the extent that some parts were comprised of a HUNGARIAN majority. THOSE parts should NOT have been ceded to Romania, because those areas were NOT Romanian.
EuroAmerican02 2 years ago
When it was discovered that Romania had no majority in the region up to the Tisza River, contrary to Romania's agreement with the Entente, Romania did NOT receive that region. The same should have been applied to western regions of Transylvania, where lived nearly 3 million ethnic Hungarians. Despite this, one day they woke up to find themselves residents of Romania. That's justice?
EuroAmerican02 2 years ago
No, any sane, rational human being would find that circumstance appalling, shocking, and disgraceful on the part of Romania and the Entente!
EuroAmerican02 2 years ago
And if you cannot accept these facts, then you are indeed brainwashed!
EuroAmerican02 2 years ago
yes
TheHungarianOak 2 years ago
i agree with you entirely as far as the sekler autonomy is concerned. i do find it depressing though that you are not at all willing to engage in an argument. thats hardly the liberal standpoint now, is it?
TheHungarianOak 2 years ago
After hvaing viewed your profile, it's clear that you have not participated in very many YouTube political discussions involving Hungarians and their national enemies. FYI, liberalism is not synonymous with debate and argument, but mostly with personal insult, injury, prejorative comments and remarks, etc. ad infinitum ad nauseum, as I have been subjected to in the recent past. I.e., I have had more than my fair share of such "arguments".
EuroAmerican02 2 years ago
It is strange that you consider that hungarians have national enemies. Me as a romanian I cannot ever consider that we have national enemies. If I would consider that probably that I would need to go see a doctor for paranoid distortion.
dacgerula 2 years ago
A funny anecdote goes something like this: Just because one is paranoid does not mean that someone is not actually out get him. This implies the opposite is also true. Just because you bury your head in the sand and ignore your problems does not mean that Romania does not have its more than fair share of national enemies.
EuroAmerican02 2 years ago
I know the joke...it is old but funny:)
However my previous statement stands: I do not think that Romania is having national enemies.
dacgerula 2 years ago
My statement also still stands: Virtually every nation, INCLUDING ROMANIA, has enemies, whether you want to whitewash the issue or not. Seriously.
EuroAmerican02 2 years ago
The fact is that I prefer NOT to engage in anymore debates with anti-Hungarian interests. Is that okay with you? :)
EuroAmerican02 2 years ago
well we are both hungarians. but lets not stifle free debate. if we do, we are but a bunch of idiotic lefties whom we are so determined not to ape. free debate, even if it hurts, helps to solve problems. i am not anymore than you a friend of romania, but if its not openly racist, and does not incite to hatred ,please allow the comments.
TheHungarianOak 2 years ago
You misunderstand me. I am not stifling open debate under this video. If you want to debate dacgerula or anybody else, you have that option. I myself have no desire to continue to debate with him or any other anti-Hungarian. Ultimately, as you yourself will undoubtedly soon discover, such debates with such "people" will turn very ugly, very soon, and instead of debating the issues, you will find that you are defending yourself on a very personal level.
EuroAmerican02 2 years ago
In case you were unaware of it, problems CANNOT be solved with YouTube videos OR video comments OR channel comments. Again, I am allowing open discussion, or debate, but I have the option of refrainiing from it, just as you have the option of engaging in it. Happy arguing! :)
EuroAmerican02 2 years ago
@ TheHungarianOak,
I do respect your attitude and I'm happy to see people that are open to dialog. I strongly believe that there was too much hatred in the past and the only way to solve the "issues" is to create an Europe with no borders. I strongly believe that the main problems that Hungarians and Romanians are having are common and resides on the economical field. On the other hand...I should be understood if I take civilized attitude when someone is insulting my nation or my country.
dacgerula 2 years ago
Feel free to jump in anytime and have yourself a pleasant debate with dacgerula. He seems to be very eager to debate the virtues of Romania and Hungary with somebody, anybody. :))))
EuroAmerican02 2 years ago
how are u proposing to prevent romanians from shutting down schools and from offending basic human rights? do not wanna sound like a broken record, but all that is happening in central europe is the making of the WEST. we do have one particular person to thank for: way to go woodrow wilson and liberal internationlism. your voice is and will be dwarfed as long as the status quo exists.
TheHungarianOak 2 years ago
You really have no concept of what's happening in Romania, particularly in Transylvania, to the nearly 1.5 million Hungarians still living there, do you? And, rather than debate with Romanians, you prefer to debate with me, and get my dander up. Do you think that this video represents solely my voice or my opinion? And, just how do we go about changing the "status quo", by keeping silent about it?
EuroAmerican02 2 years ago
well said. you are not. there is no way gonna change that. u can upload as many vids u want,thats not gonna change a damn thing. much as i know about the suffering of the people there, nothing can be done. thats called REALPOLITIK. You and i may not like it, but its there. can i just remind you that the people who caused this were the yanks, brits and french. as long as they are in control of international politics, your determination , though praiseworthy, is pretty much self-deception.
TheHungarianOak 2 years ago
Far from a "broken record," you are the lone voice in a densely wooded forest. For your edification, more than 600,000 Hungarian voices votyed in favor of autonomy for the Hungarian Szeklers recently, but their voice was silenced by an oppressive anti-democratic Romanian government, citing its consitution as the basis for the denial of this fundamental right to self-determination of an ethnic minority.
EuroAmerican02 2 years ago
It was not my voice. It was more than 600,000 voices! IGNORED! It was also the voice of the leader of the UMDR leader Marko Bela. IGNORED! It was also the voice of every Hungarian in the world. IGNORED! It WILL BE the voice of the European Parliament this month ~ NOT to be ignored! ~ when they hold a hearing about the subject of Szekler Autonomy in Kovaszna, Hargita, and part of Mures Counties in central Romania.
EuroAmerican02 2 years ago
This is just an simple allegation:)) Unfortunately it is pretty pathetic. Those "600000 voices" do not exist for the simple fact that the usual people from those counties are not at all interested in politics as none of the usual people in Romania or Hungary are. You don't know that because you're not living here to see it day by day. You're collecting your information based on the YT movies you're watching and based on the forums from here.
dacgerula 2 years ago
You are sorely mistaken, My information is culled from the 5 different ethnic Hungarian Transylvanian websites that I subscirbe to that detail the current affairs of our people. You dismiss my facts as "simple allegations" ~ then YOU tell me how many Hungarians voted in June, 2009, for autonomy!!!! YOU tell me that UMDR Marko Bela did not speak before the Romanian government body and sought autonomy for Hungarian Szeklers!
EuroAmerican02 2 years ago
Go ahead, DENY it, if your conscience will allow you to do so. IF YOU HAVE A CONSCIENCE. I give you a ot of credit by supposing that you have a conscience.
EuroAmerican02 2 years ago
Your question, or comment, makes it painfully obvious that you have not watched this or the other videos in this series, have you?
EuroAmerican02 2 years ago
PS: don't forget to answer my initial question: Where are you living?
After you'll answer to this question I will come up with some additional ones.
Good luck!
dacgerula 2 years ago
P.S. Don't forget what I said earlier: Either stay on the topic of this video, or leave this section. Frankly, I don't care what other questions you may contrive for me. If they are not relevant to this video, they will be disallowed. Good luck TO YOU!
EuroAmerican02 2 years ago
:)) keep dreaming
cavalerulalb1212 2 years ago