The neo-commie left must be expelled from the Democratic Party and restore that popular party to the attitudes expressed by the last great democrat, JFK. The party of JFK was a conservative patriotic anti-communist American party. Look how far the mighty have fallen. Restore the Democratic Party. Kick out the commies. Then us conservative Southern Democrats can return to our party with pride. tj
Mmm....pretty sure conservativism has long been left to the GOP. Obama is as clear as it gets that uniquely American socialism is the way that the executive govt. is going to run for at least the next 3/5 years.
S-Gray: Mr O is actually irrelevant because enough Americans are now awake and see that we the people as a democratic republic, can dictate back to our leadership and demand that they do right. An awake population can halt any shift to the left. Restore the Democratic Party to the people. Away with the commie-elite in the political royalty. A simple work stoppage for 3 days would bring any leadership to ruin. tj
wow tj -- what float in the wacky parade did you fall off of today? JFK was attacked right and left for being a "socialist". Just look up Ronnie Reagun's AMA paid for publicity stunt against "socialized medicine" way back in 1961. You morons have been sipping the same nut juice for 50 years now. All that sugar isn't good for you.
You mean the the racist Dixiecrats who existed solely for the purpose of holding back the tide of Civil Rights? Stay the fuck away from my Democratic Party. We have no use for you.
If it doesn't have a public option then I'd rather see the bill die in the house. I'm tired of all this neo-liberal corporate dicksucking that the government has been doing for the last 30 years, particularly the RNC but the DNC does it as well.
True, but there's also more to a human than a brain. For my part I'd prefer to have a publicly owned nonprofit alternative to the corporate interests driven only by profit motive, hence my comment on corporate dicksucking. Public systems work better in every other developed country just fine, nothing to think it won't do so in this country as well, assuming the bill is actually written properly.
Really and truly, the 1st reform that needs doing before all others--and everything Obama's done since taking office highlights this painfully well--needs to be the CHANGE CONGRESS proposal:
Yeah, I think it comes down to campaign finance reform (real reform) and the corrupting influence that corporate personhood has on democracy. Also the people (you and me and everyone else) actually need to get organized as a coherent block. A citizens union would work nicely in that regard.
Pres. Obama should have done this from the start. He should have started out with Single Payer, negotiated and accepted the Public Option, and left the gridlock on Capitol Hill to wallow in their own mess.
He knew the rapid right was looking for his "Waterloo", so I don't know why he handed his power and popularity to Congress to play politics with.
I hope Obama learns in the future that he needs to be the point man on the issues that got him elected.
Amazing what a month can do....my ass
Chewy240284 2 years ago
watch sicko and the ONLY "democrat" at the signing for bush's retarded prescription drug plan is that asshole traitor baucus.
sirdaveysockrocker 2 years ago 3
Chuck Todd is losing relevancy on everything. He's a shill.
TheDuckofLaw 2 years ago
The neo-commie left must be expelled from the Democratic Party and restore that popular party to the attitudes expressed by the last great democrat, JFK. The party of JFK was a conservative patriotic anti-communist American party. Look how far the mighty have fallen. Restore the Democratic Party. Kick out the commies. Then us conservative Southern Democrats can return to our party with pride. tj
tj5555555 2 years ago
Mmm....pretty sure conservativism has long been left to the GOP. Obama is as clear as it gets that uniquely American socialism is the way that the executive govt. is going to run for at least the next 3/5 years.
SJamesGray 2 years ago
S-Gray: Mr O is actually irrelevant because enough Americans are now awake and see that we the people as a democratic republic, can dictate back to our leadership and demand that they do right. An awake population can halt any shift to the left. Restore the Democratic Party to the people. Away with the commie-elite in the political royalty. A simple work stoppage for 3 days would bring any leadership to ruin. tj
tj5555555 2 years ago
wow tj -- what float in the wacky parade did you fall off of today? JFK was attacked right and left for being a "socialist". Just look up Ronnie Reagun's AMA paid for publicity stunt against "socialized medicine" way back in 1961. You morons have been sipping the same nut juice for 50 years now. All that sugar isn't good for you.
gisforgary 2 years ago
You mean the the racist Dixiecrats who existed solely for the purpose of holding back the tide of Civil Rights? Stay the fuck away from my Democratic Party. We have no use for you.
JBeatty17 2 years ago
J17: Please be stupid enough to write off Dixie. tj
tj5555555 2 years ago
If it doesn't have a public option then I'd rather see the bill die in the house. I'm tired of all this neo-liberal corporate dicksucking that the government has been doing for the last 30 years, particularly the RNC but the DNC does it as well.
studio7manga 2 years ago 7
well,
there is much more to this bill than public option.
E.g. no rejection based on preexisting conditions, all applications must be accepted, no more than 2 to 1 ratio for older or sicker applicants.
to name a few.
I would hate to see those lost as they are very important for many people.
pwl1980 2 years ago
True, but there's also more to a human than a brain. For my part I'd prefer to have a publicly owned nonprofit alternative to the corporate interests driven only by profit motive, hence my comment on corporate dicksucking. Public systems work better in every other developed country just fine, nothing to think it won't do so in this country as well, assuming the bill is actually written properly.
studio7manga 2 years ago
Amen, brutha. I fully agree.
& not just ANY public option... Jacob Hacker invented this widget w/ 5 elements needing to remain intact for the thing to work right:
1 - 10s-of-millions of enrollees
2 - only public opt-ers get subsidized
3 - option open to all comers
4 - authorized to use Medicare's bargained-down reimbursement rates
5 - insurance companies have to honor the pub op's new-legal-minimum benefits pkg.
(google Andrew Coates, PNHP)
Chances: slim to none, this time around.
terpis 2 years ago
Really and truly, the 1st reform that needs doing before all others--and everything Obama's done since taking office highlights this painfully well--needs to be the CHANGE CONGRESS proposal:
/watch?v=KLIniks2O0s
terpis 2 years ago
Yeah, I think it comes down to campaign finance reform (real reform) and the corrupting influence that corporate personhood has on democracy. Also the people (you and me and everyone else) actually need to get organized as a coherent block. A citizens union would work nicely in that regard.
studio7manga 2 years ago
Max Baucus = Sold out Democrat = Repubilican
tjfgermany58123 2 years ago 5
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impeach obama!
savior02 2 years ago
Move to Saudi Arabia.
studio7manga 2 years ago 2
lol gl with that plan
seems like everyone would rather see the pres fail, than see the country succeed in any way
what a shame
and you morons have families? and children? Do you not care about your families? Their health? Youd rather see the pres fail?
ExoneratedUndead 2 years ago 3
Impeach Obama? Is that the only meaningful sentence you learned at the Idiocy And Stupidy High School in Anchorage, Alaska? MY GOODNESS!!!
bobhardball 2 years ago 3
I knw how you feel but he stll, sorry to say ,better then anything else.
When I get down I think of McCain and Palin and remember we did dodge a bullet.
cosmosgato 2 years ago 3
Chuck Todd is a pretty horrible reporter.
Recently saw him get destroyed on Real Time with Bill Maher...
He has his own agendas.
ehkinoh 2 years ago
he's a center-righty.. he'd parley with the conservatard fascists but discounts the Progressive Democratic Heroes.
KataVideo 2 years ago
Pres. Obama should have done this from the start. He should have started out with Single Payer, negotiated and accepted the Public Option, and left the gridlock on Capitol Hill to wallow in their own mess.
He knew the rapid right was looking for his "Waterloo", so I don't know why he handed his power and popularity to Congress to play politics with.
I hope Obama learns in the future that he needs to be the point man on the issues that got him elected.
route99 2 years ago 5
Baucus is a tool.
lamouchemorte 2 years ago 4
Baucus is a rela problem the Finance bill is a HORRIBLE bill. he shouldnt be anywhere NEAR drafting the legislation
3star2nr 2 years ago 3
THANK GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Get rid of Max Baucus. The finance bill is very very bad
3star2nr 2 years ago 4
And Chuck Todd is losing relevancy as a news reporter.
justsumdude899 2 years ago 7