Government Confiscates Gold and Silver - Possible? -Yes!! - Infinite Dangers, Inc.

[carter102]

They want the dollar to die, on there terms, and then force everyone into a world currency.

They could get it out of a safety deposit box no problem, and honest dumbies might turn in it, but man, good luck finding a determined persons bullion.

Good advice, a private vault might do.

[w0tm]

@carter102 it's amazing at the number of people who still store gold and silver or anything of value in safety deposit boxes. They must be locked in a room with no access to the news of the world. Private storage vaults are no better (read the fine print as the government has access to these as well and can seal then open them with just a court order). A shovel and a very accurate GPS is your best bet.

[JohnnyBGood11]

dont worry about this; there are other things to worry about; the government is selling gold & silver right now!!! this is dumb to worry about go to the usmint.gov and and buy gold & silver from the us mint!

[w0tm]

@JohnnyBGood11 I "worry" about very little but I "remain aware" of a lot. The US gvt is required by law to mint and sell gold and silver coins. During the last few years they ceased silver production of almost all but one ounce silver eagles. Even the silver eagles they stopped earlier this year saying it was a "pause". They've already been sued to force production again per federal law. They know the world is running out of silver. Worry if you have cancer. "Be aware' of things like this.

[w0tm]

@JohnnyBGood11 if you have a lot of silver then "be aware" of their coming need for "fall guys" as they ruin the economy. Silver "evil speculators and hoarders" are a perfect "two percent" target who they can shift blame to for awhile.Two percent being % of those who own investment metals. Just "be aware" so their unexpected confiscations won't include you. Personally I believe they've minted their last silver coins and 2011 will become rare as they produced very few before the "pause".

[JohnnyBGood11]

@w0tm So you think this is the last year the usmint will make silver American Eagles for sale to the us public?...I have heard so many things on the mint running out of silver: but the mint made 27.1 million oz in 2009; 20.5 million in 2008 the numbers for last year I dont have yet....Im sure it is over 20 million in 2010...not sure if you heard about JP Morgan and their short selling contracts and the trouble they are in..but Wall Street has been cheating the public for years!

[w0tm]

@JohnnyBGood11 I'm just the messenger. Read the report just issued by The Silver Institute on the rapid increase in use of silver versus the rapid decrease in supply. And read what the mints (US, Canada and Australia) all write on their Web sites about the "difficulty" they face in obtaining silver. I think the old saying of "Don't Shoot the Messenger" applies here. "They" are discovering far more gold exists in the world than thought a year ago but much less silver. Yes, JPM. Know it well.

[Number1Techguru]

Its that simple

[Number1Techguru]

Bury it

[van1976]

Yes-- confiscation is the "Wild card".

--Van

[renavatio1947]

Food and Guns!!!

[w0tm]

@renavatio1947 yes, feel free to download "food and guns" expanded into 240 pages in my free survival book (free until it is finished -- should finish this week) at infinitedangers  com

[joygarner]

I guess I'll be melting all my silver into gruesome globs of "artwork" for my home!

[w0tm]

@joygarner good idea!

[joygarner]

@407buddy ; WAHOO! Yes bury it! They'll get my silver when they pry it from my cold dead hands! Fuck'em!!

I am NOT giving it up for anything less than food and supplies or other hard assets.

[buggymak]

they are still printing money like hell...the inflation goes up each day.i think it's a part of a well planed plan.so for us the logical thing to do is to buy silver and gold to try to save our asses.because the american money is going to have the same value of monopoly money in a near future.(((YES WE CAN)))) put our hands in your stash.

[w0tm]

@buggymak It's amazing the percentage of people who don't understand Econ 101.Case in point. Lady interviewed in line waiting for $300 free money check. "Do you feel guilt taking from people who work hard to earn this money of which you did nothing?"."I'm not taking anyone's money! This is Obama money. He has all the money in the world. He is going to buy me a house and car and I'll never have to work again!". People in line just cheered as they chanted OBAMA OBAMA OBAMA! IQ=box of rocks!

[buggymak]

@w0tm i agree with you, this is frustating,but the thing that important for us is to be prepared i mean (finance----food) because there will be hard days to come,i'm not living in a state of mind of (the world is going to end) but to have a sort of assurance policy.because if i wait for the gouv to help me i will die as a rat like they did for catrina victims,your best friend on those situations is yourself..if you don't do anything about it well GOOD LUCK to you and your love ones.

[w0tm]

@buggymak you already have it all figured out. ASSURANCE -- if people can just accept that word instead of "kooky survivalist" then they will be ok. You spend a relatively small amount of money just like you buy insurance. You buy insurance on your home even though the chance of it burning down is >1%. Societal collapse was at 0% in 1990 and maybe 5% today. 5% is high enough to buy insurance - assurance - whatever you want to call it. A side benefit is the peace of mind you'll have.

[PurpleHeart1]

I didn't know that it was possible thanks for informing

I was sure before about banks boxes, but now I know this...

[w0tm]

@PurpleHeart1 happy to help

[misscoconuts2u]

Well I wouldn't buy gold or silver because I knew what happened in the 1930's. Many peoples gold was taken. Besides I don't have the money to buy it anyway...like most of the people.

[w0tm]

@misscoconuts2u as long as you have enough money for a shovel and a strong back. We're going to implode as a country long b4 Obama gets chance to go after people's metals. "we're in a helluva mess". (you can quote me). If you don't have $100 to buy silver do NOT buy metals or anything other than survival items, long exp date foods, LOTS of water and guns. FORGET METALS!!

[cvenzke410]

Gold and Silver confiscation = Global dumping of the US dollar. Take your pick buddie. Would you want to slit your own throught?

[w0tm]

@cvenzke410 agree =--- not many ways out hat I can think of

[toddig]

Not worried myself ... there isn't enough gold and silver in the market to pay-off the government debts or to act as a leverage for a new dollar.

if they do decide to go door-to-door to collect gold/silver they might as well collect our guns too ... good luck with that!

[Jrandom37]

More Jim Willie:

The ineptitude of USGovt leaders would be an example of global mockery. Their aborted efforts would possibly lead to a string of breakdowns in trust and confidence in all things US$ related. The side effect, an unintended consequence, would be the silent declaration that gold is worth double the contrived price, unduly affected by naked shorting of paper gold substitutes. Confiscation will be interrupted, since a declaration of surrender.

[w0tm]

@Jrandom37 I agree!

breakingnews - please pass to others = possible HUGE BLACK SWAN EVENT 10-22 TO 11-12. I AM WITHDRAWING ALL$ FM MY BANK ACCOUNTS DURING THOSE DAYS. BE ON GUARD AND KNOW WHERE YOUR FAMILY IS.

[w0tm]

@Jrandom37 you said a lot and I think I agree - need to think about it a bit -- we are truly on the edge of Armageddon. Obama just smiles as if the destruction of the USA was what he was programmed to do. Manchurian Candidate? If under 60 - Google it.

[w0tm]

@Jrandom37 key is our military is NOT inept. which side or will they have a war within our military? so mANY questions!

[Jrandom37]

Jim Willie's opinion:

The entire prospect of gold confiscation has been a regular topic of debate, discussion, and creeping fear. My commentaries on the topic have been usually loaded with eagerness and anticipation. Let them try!! It would be the most welcome gift to gold investors worldwide. The US investors would have to be willing to take on more roles in civil disobedience. Any attempt to confiscate gold would result in a gigantic backfire of failure. The price of gold would skyrocket.

[w0tm]

@407buddy to the point!

[w0tm]

@407buddy TO THE POINT!

[magichandpuppet]

They also will confiscate your stored food if you let them during harsh times. I don't remember the executive order which specifies the nationalization of 'excess' food after a declared emergency, but I do remember reading it.

I do wish I had bought some other medals and commodities more freely after the executive-looters-in-charge do what they do in the face of a bankrupt nation. However, I don't plan on reading their laws and rules... so, orders of confiscation will never hit my virgin ears.

[magichandpuppet]

@magichandpuppet - I meant to write... I wish I had bought other metals so I could spend more freely after confiscation. But, all the same, I don't intend to ever hear news of confiscation... seein' as how I don't even have a t.v. :)

[BiggerThinking1]

@magichandpuppet i see ur point - its not fair that they can change the goalposts every day and expect everyone to keep up with their BS - but unfortunately - like the NAZI's going door to door with a squadron of armed goons - not gonna be subject to rational argument at the time of demanded handover.

[w0tm]

@magichandpuppet oBAMA LONG PASSED THE POINT AS EMPEROR HE CAN DO WHATEVER HE WISHES TO DO

[magichandpuppet]

@w0tm - so far he appears to think so. I guess as long as he keeps the fluoride flowing, the NFL, NBA, American Idol and Dancing with the Star on the tele, and he keeps the looted booty flowing through the goobermint nipples, he can pretty much get away with whatever he wants. Sometimes I feel like a character in that movie 'Invasion of the Body Snatchers'.

[w0tm]

@magichandpuppet funny

thanks for the humor - we need it!!!!!

darned scary movie!!!

[Jrandom37]

Silver has never been confiscated. There are a bunch of fake versions of the Executive Order flying around the Internet. The real one only talked about gold. People back in that time had silver dimes, quarters, and 1/2 dollars in their pockets and weren't criminals.

[w0tm]

@Jrandom37 I was just repeating EO 6102 that is still on the books of the White House. On silver it only applied to silver bullion and pure silver coins of which none existed except numismatic (like the "half dime") which was exempt being numismatic. Industrial users of silver (and gold) were monitored by one of the hundreds of make work FDR committees. Out of the whole thing only one man was charged and that was on income tax evasion. Much adieu about nothing. But Obama would use it.

[drutter]

Here's another one for ya: The govt may be able to take your gold and silver, but they can just as easily take your paper. And guess what? They're doing that already, through inflation, the hidden tax!

[w0tm]

@drutter true - since 1913 - for 200 years there was zero inflation! look at the chart. hard to believe. zero inflation. Then the federal reserve bank was created and creeping theft was invented as an off shoot along with income tax and a thousand other taxes.We are now alive to witness the final battle.How will it end? Will the 13 families of the Illuminati etc. enslave us all or will we break free and restore minimal government and destroy "THEM"? We'll know by 2012! BUT FEW CARE!

[BiggerThinking1]

@w0tm Can someone name the 13 families - or any of them?

1. Rothschilds.

2. Royal Family.

3. - 13. ????

[w0tm]

@BiggerThinking1 view The Money Masters documentary for some of the names - on Youtube also named in numerous books - all correct? I have no idea. Watch video = Google for names then decide yourself. House of Windsor, Rothschilds, queen of Holland only ones i know for sure. AlexJones printed list. Go to his web site.

[drutter]

Can the govt come and shoot your children and then you? Yes!

Can the govt nuke Los Angeles and blame in on Iranian submarines? Yes!

Can the govt raise taxes? Yes!

The govt can do many things, with the power that we've given them.

[w0tm]

@drutter yes except they;ve taken them by default. We have NOT RESISTED! MOST ARE BRAINDEAD ZOMBIES FOOTBALL AND GAME SHOWS. WE MUST RESIST OR ALL IS LOST. ALL IS PROBABLY LOST ALREADY. "PREPARE" TO SAVE YOURSELF AND FAMILY. "PREP, PREP PREP" FORGET OTHERS - TOO LATE TO WAKE OTHERS UP.

[BiggerThinking1]

@w0tm To play devils advocate for a second - i occasionally get this fleeting thought that - there are so many idiots who don't care about it all going to hell - that they don't deserve to be saved - so in effect - if The Illuminati are going to kill 90% of the world - perhaps its for the best? (Just as long as they kill the "right" idiots LOL)

[w0tm]

@BiggerThinking1 go to

Where will You & Your FAMILY RUN see DESCRIPTION and Google = REX-84

on youtube posted by "deadadelta"

totally crazy??????

[w0tm]

@drutter i THINK I ALREAD ANSWERED BUT SHORT ANSWER

YES

OBAMA IS THE NEW GOD

DID YOU KNOW THERE IS EVEN A STRING OF CHURCHES WHO WORSHIP OBAMA AS A GOD? GOOGLE IT TRUE! AMAZING. THEY GO INTO INNERCITY CHURCHES THAT STILL HAVE MAYBE A DOZEN 90 YEAR WHITE PEOPLE WHO WILL NOT LEAVE. tHEY HAVE SAY A MILLION DOLLARS IN THEIR TREASURY. THE "CHURCH OF OBAMA (GOOGLE IT) INVADE WITH HUNDREDS OF NEW MEMBERS, CLEAN OUT THE TREASURY, SELL THE CHURCH AND THE OLD PEOPLE ARE CLUELESS.

[BiggerThinking1]

why do they have to confiscate - why can't they just , um , BUY what they need like teh rest of the fucking market? Jesus the tyrnanny is unbefuckinglievable!

[BiggerThinking1]

What i mean is - some of us have foregone great opportunity cost - we could have blown our cash on fancy things and a nicer lifestyle over the years - but we chose austere living now to invest in gold and silver for a future payoff - thats the deserved reward of all long term investors - so if they want it - they can fucking well PAY for it at proper market value (not the BS bullion-bank-suppressed price.)

[w0tm]

@BiggerThinking1 THEY WILL never HAVE "ENOUGH" POWER CORRUPTS AND ABSOLUTE POWER CORRUPTS ABSOLUELY, PREPARE FOR A FIGHT OF HUNDREDS OF YEARS

HOPE FOR A HUGE BLACK SWAN EVENT IN OUR FAVOR - POSSIBLE

PRAY FOR IT!!

[w0tm]

@BiggerThinking1 POWer -- they want total control - they alread own wverything. THEY believe they know best for long-term health of planet. One world goverment and all that BS- this is not about money -- it is implimentation of the world plan now almost 1000 Years OLD! I KEEP WRITING -- WATCH

"THE MONEY MASTERS"

ON YOUTUBE TO LEARN WHAT THE HELL THEY WANT. WHY WILL PEOPLE BITCH BUT NOT WATCH THIS 150 MINUTE VIDEO. very FRUSTRATING TO ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WATCH IT!!!!!!

[w0tm]

@BiggerThinking1 WITH ALL DUE RESPECT I MAY STOP ANSWERING SAME QUESTIONS OVER AND OVER AND OVER UNLESS I AM FIRST TOLD "I HAVE WATCHED THE MONEY MASTERS". I'M WASTING MY TIME OTHERWISE,

[w0tm]

@TeMpTeK1 YOU'RE OVER MY HEAD -- SORRY - DON'T HAVE TIME TO DO RESEARCH. bUT THE FEDS AND OBAMA IN PARTICULAR BREAKS LAWS EVERY DAY!!!!! AS SOON AS HE GETS ONE MORE SUPREME COURT VOTE WE BECOME A TOTALITARIAN FASCIST NAZI state. then we either surrender or repeat 1776.

[TeMpTeK1]

This is not a totalitarian nation.. we are a nation of laws as well as a nation full of people who are ignorant of those laws.. The beauty of this country is that you are FREE to give up your gold and silver under color of law to whoever you wish .. But to date...no free American has ever given up their gold and silver under duress of law.. they've given it up under ignorance of the law. BIG DIFFERENCE

[w0tm]

@TeMpTeK1 AND THE FEDS HOPE WE STAY ASLEEP!

[mari0228504]

they can take american gold and silver...purchase from another country, australia, canada etc. those they cannot take.

[TeMpTeK1]

@mari0228504

wrong

[w0tm]

@mari0228504 IT'S A NEW WORLD -- OBAMA CAN DO WHATEVER HE WANTS

LAWS AND THE CONSTITUTION ARE JUST ANNOYANCES TO HIM - MAIN JOB OF CAS(sP?) IS TO WORK AROUND THESE ANNOYANCES. WE'LL BE WELL INTO A FASCIST DICTATORSHIP BY 2012. WE'VE SEEN OUR LAST FREE  ELECTION.. SORRY!!!!!!!!!!

[MrPhajlee]

Gary, I too am thinking that investing in commodities is important in addtion to metals, as they say "don't put all your eggs in one basket." Not being a futures trader, I am looking for a way to do that. Jim Rogers has a fund but it is a ETN- that means a bank owns it which makes me nervous. Does anyone have any thoughts about good ways to invest in commodities other than precious metals? Another thought- would precious metals mining funds be more immune to confiscation?

[TheNick487]

@MrPhajlee struggling with the same question. I dont trust these etf etns, id say mining stocks, lithium stocks, energy, water recources.

[w0tm]

@MrPhajlee i HAD HOSE SAME EXAC THOUGHTS YESTERDAY! i'VE LOOKED INO INVESTING IN OTHER VERY VERY METALS.

i LEARNED INDUSTRIAL USERS OF THESE METALS DO no Not not WANT SPECULATORS IN THEIR MARKETS. MARKETS ARE TINY -- SOME METALS ONLY MINE 500 OUNCES A YEAR! i'M THINKING OF BUYING PALLADIUM TOMORROW. NO RARE BUT ONE FASTER UPSWING THAN GOLD AND STEADY - HARD TO HIDE A MINE. I'M JUST NOW READING UP ON THIS - AS YOU LEARN MORE - PSE SHARE GYANTISAT GMAIL.COM SEND E-MAIL MORE INFO I HAVE

[mahavira108]

When FDR confiscated gold was the money. Americans were holding tons of it literally. today few Americans hold gold. they could do it, but theyre not going to much, certainly not enough to save the dollar. and this aint 1933. FDR had the trust of the people. does such trust exist today? but none the less Im glad that when you got nothing you got nothing to lose. im safe!

[w0tm]

@mahavira108 I WILL ALL BE FOR SHOW -- DOLLAR IS CRASHING -- HE HAS BLAMED WALL ST, BANKERS ETC. NOW HE CAN BLAME SILVER AND GOLD SPECULATORS TO SHOW "I AM DOING SOMETHING!!" ALL FOR SHOW.

[MrPhajlee]

If all the talking heads (most of whom are in the silver and gold business) are right and these metals will skyrocket and there will be a big shortage of silver, etc etc, then these metals probably will be confiscated! If the dollar is worthless and metals are priceless, then what else is the gov going to do? That certainly would mitagate their value. You can say you could sell them on the black market, but black market selling is not what I really have in mind as I make investments.

[w0tm]

@MrPhajlee i AGREE - NOR DO i LIKE BEING MADE A FELON WITH THE STROKE OF HIS PEN. wE USED TO BE A FREE COUNTRY -- WAY WAY BACK IN 2007

BOY i CAN HARDLY REMEMBER!

[Ubreako]

the black market would be great then as its a global phenomena now

[w0tm]

@Ubreako  YES!

DID YOU KNOW IT IS ILLEGAL TO OWN GOLD IN 49 COUNTRIES?

[seekerofgod7777777]

Ive heard that the government cannot confiscate our gold & silver if its in the form of say Canadian maple leafs. Could you give me your thoughts on this?

[w0tm]

@seekerofgod7777777 honest answer dont know, if the are grabbing slver I dont think the will care, It will be chaos. They'll take Russian coins, They will not take time for legalities,

[charlesfuchs]

Na, it was called nationalization, they never confiscated it. All I know, people are well to connected and there will be no way in hell the people will allow this to happen. Most of the people never turned in there gold and the law was never forces or no one ever got in trouble.

[w0tm]

@charlesfuchs all true - percentage who turned in is unknown. I've heard 50%. Confiscation and nationalizaton same thing at prices of today

[davidmthekidd]

The country. Don't turn it in.

[w0tm]

@davidmthekidd ok?

[davidmthekidd]

I wil also agree. ONLY IF THEY CAN FIND IT. I'm seriously thinking of getting my metals out oft

[w0tm]

@davidmthekidd my metals will be WELL hidden for my grandchildren. I'll be hung or locked up for life. 

[Mcleod0000]

I think the government will crumble with the money

[w0tm]

@Mcleod0000 a race to the finish - I'll be running/hidding with my silver hoping they implode before they catch me! As will thousands will be. Plenty of safe houses set up. Half ton of silver in an SUV not easy to hide!

[donkazu]

@w0tm That bit if info might have made you a target!

[w0tm]

@donkazu LOL i'VE BEEN A TARGET FOR A LONG TIME

ALSO PROTECTED AFTER THEY TRIED TO KILL ME IN DENVER A YEAR AGO. I AM NOW PROTECTED. SEND ME YOUR E-MAIL AND i'LL SNED YOU WHY THEY TRIED TO KILL ME GYANTIS AT MIDTEC.COM YOUTUBE WON'T LET ADDRESSES THRU SO ADD THE @ SIGN - E-MAIL ME YOU WON'T BELIEVE IT

[artdeco101010]

You're the first person I have seen that cited the fact that silver was included in that order, thank you. Yes, the gov can do whatever they want to, but gold and silver are small potatoes compared to 401k. They will grab those first.

[w0tm]

@artdeco101010 I cashed mine in last year and plan a video even though plenty of Youtubes already

[w0tm]

@artdeco101010 I cashed mine in last year and plan a video even though plenty of Youtubes already $13 trillion in retirement funds just happens to be our national debt.

[stevesmitty79]

If you consider the demographic that is buying and hoarding gold and silver today, I can tell you that literally NONE of them with turn in their precious metals to fedgov if ordered to. Expecially in light of the fraud they've commited against us. It won't happen, so it will be used in the black market as the new form of exchange and the dollar can die for all I care.

[w0tm]

@stevesmitty79 they'll be going house to house so stay ahead of them and be prepared!!!

[blownaway]

You should sleep well since your well prepared.

[w0tm]

@blownaway i WISH i DID! IGNORANCE IS BLISS

I KNOW TOO MUCH WITH MORE COMING EVERY DAY

I COULD TELL YOU THINGS THAT WOULD AT LEAST PROBABLY GET ME KILLED

I WISH I HAD NEVER GOTTEN INTO THIS!!!

[blownaway]

@w0tm Get you killed, really? Why do you have regrets getting into this? Don't you feel more secure and prepared for the future? Perhaps you feel someone could go after you. This seems a bit of a far fetched notion, but I understand. Sleep well my friend.

[w0tm]

@blownaway I hope so. I had an "incident" a year ago after going public with 3w's.yantis.us slash vj then dot htm Got VJ fired. Youtube prohibits addresses I am now much more careful and all I learn goes to others. I now keep low profile. Sorry can't say much more than that. Other than I love my country too much to back off. I have computer hacker "talent" of "computer P.I." and use it (legally). But no more credits to me!! I am now "protected" so I am safe.

[silverjunky999]

401 k retirement first social security cheers

[w0tm]

@silverjunky999 CASHED MINE IN LAST YEAR

[KMDNews]

Only if they can find it :) Much love!!

[debtansey89]

@KMDNews I agree, only if they can find it.

[w0tm]

@KMDNews TRUE SAFE HOUSES TTHE WHOLE NINE YARDS

I AM PREPARED MY BOOK INFINITE DANGERS COMING SOON

[helpendthefed]

Technically they Nationalized the Gold since they paid you for it. Confiscation implies they take your Gold and give you nothing in return.

[w0tm]

@helpendthefed true would Obama pay market price today or price still on books of treasury $35 and 50.5 cents for silver? Neither! Feds WANT price to go to the moon before doing anything as at, say, $10,000 ounce for gold would pay off national debt. Might give US holders some special bonds that would be worthless but be able to give China/others X gold and say "we're now even - here's gold worth $10,000 an ounce- no more national debt - it's paid in full!"

[BiggerThinking1]

@helpendthefed PAid at suppressed prices - almost as equal theft at currently supressed prices- we want payment at TRUE value (ie. that which it will assume AFTER they "nationalize" it! - ie $10,000 an oz silver.)