Growing palm trees in New Jersey

[vikkieruscher]

very entertaining YouTube Channel.

[jstorm73]

too open a location. Windmill palms have a chance if planted a frew feet away from a protected South wall of a building or home, Even then one needs to mulch heavy and cover the first couple of winters. There is plenty of info on the net. Don't waste your money like this person did

[GreatLakesPalms]

I am successfully growing two 12ft windmill palms in Clarkston Michigan and they have survived winter here with NO HEAT. I just use a green house like covering over them for the winter to keep the snow and ice off. I have a video of them on my channel if any of you would like to see them! I also wholesale them for much cheaper than the tree shown in this video! You can contact me at scantron5k@yahoo.com.

[intheburbs]

Hey man, I respect your going for it. I was successful getting a Windmill to survive a Chicago winter. At the Root ball, i used heat tape used in gutters to prevent ice build-up. I wrapped the heat wire around the root back, then planted it. The built in thermostat triggered the heat tape to go on once it reached 32 degrees. For the trunk, I put a few Solar powered decorative lights around the tree, but replaced the bulbs with heat bulbs. Worked out good man! best of luck.

[Thesimsfan9953]

That palm tree is probally going to die in the winter

[619fanwwe123]

@Thesimsfan9953

no its not its a windmill palm which is cold hardy and can stand temperatures all the way up to -5 degrees

[PhatFarm60]

Crazy shit... palms will not grow in northwest Texas but they will in Jersey? WTF

[bobzzz23]

@PhatFarm60 my palms lived in northen Delaware but I think in northen Texas it is around a zone 6.

[InsanePalmNinja]

@bobzzz23 What do you use to Protect them with.... I Found out I moved up to Zone 6. My Least is on my Cheng.

[bobzzz23]

@InsanePalmNinja I don't protect them but one died ):

[InsanePalmNinja]

@bobzzz23 What do you have? Also, How old are they I just put my in the Ground this year

[franthree]

@PhatFarm60 --The nearby Atlantic Ocean is why! Moderates the winter to a degree I have seen some Needle palms even a dwarf Palmetto on the Jersey shore! Northwest Texas has a continental climate instead.

[jstorm73]

This one has a little chance since it is planted in the open. My 15 footer is planted right up near the south wall of my home where it is least a zone warmer than an exposed area. I mulch it deep around the base. Better off planting a 3-4 footer and mulch heavy and wrap in blankets and maybe a plastic cover that does not touch the leaves, since it will burn them but hopefully she will protect it the first couple of winters

[xbltester105]

cool wish there was palms here in toronto

[buttermobile]

I wonder if this palm is still alive?

[bobzzz23]

@buttermobile after this winter i would like to know the same thing

[Viking790]

@buttermobile of course it can handle cold weather around 15- C.

[mel2000]

I have yet to find any concrete evidence that T.takil is more cold hardy than T.fortunei.

[bj616]

I have, because I grow them. T.takil is a native to cold north east facing slopes of the Himayalas. Beleive me, they are hardy!

[mel2000]

I already knew they were cold hardy but haven't seen evidence in print that they are hardier than Windmill palms.

[bj616]

I've seen it in print several times. Martin Gibbons and Tobias Spanner wrote about it. Also in HPI journal there have been articles on Takil over the years. Trachycarpus nanus the dwarf species is alo super cold hardy. I have propagated many from seed. I have many small Takil sitting out in pots that I gre from seed. Last Dec. 2008 was a bad one here, but it didn't faze the small palms.

[mel2000]

Thanks for your feedback. I'll do some research on your references. What region are you located?

[bj616]

I live on a small island off of the south west coast of Canada. Happy Palm growing!

[buttermobile]

Needle Palms and Sabal Minor once established should be hardy in NJ and they are better choices eventhough they don't grow very tall trunks.

[mel2000]

Shrubby palms just don't have the same majesty or appeal of trunked palms.

[bj616]

They may not have the appeal of a arborecent palm, but to a northern experimenter shrubby palms are the kings of the forst beaters. R.hystrix being the hardiest in the world can endure temps. down to -12 F. when established. Large old ones sailed through the infamous deep freeze in Jan. 1985 in the deep south.

[619fanwwe123]

@mel2000

on this one u can take off the fibers to make it look more attractive.

[buttermobile]

I doubt that a Pindo or Jelly Palm will make it anywhere in NJ unprotected as they are a Zone 8a palm. VIrginia Beach is as far north as they can be reliably grown. Trachycarpus fortunei, takil et al, will need to be protected when temps go below 10F because they will gradually decline, even if they make it through a few brutal winters while getting established. You may ask who the f--- are you? I am the President of the Virginia Palm Society and we have tried it all in Zone 7a.

[bj616]

We grow Butua c. here and they flower. There are some on our island right now forming fruits. We also grow Jubaea and several other species without protection. I am on the west coast of Canada.

[megalife21]

Everyone I talk to about these palms does not even give me an answer, not even Jersey shore politicians. Jerseyites can be assholes. They are obsessed with their boring and stupid lawns and hedges, which are high maintanence.

[megalife21]

From Cape May to Sandy Hook plus Long Island, which is all zone 7, can have these 3 beautiful palms (windmill, Pindo, needle) all year round outdoors. Then the Jersey shore resort towns will really look like resorts.

[megalife21]

You can get all cold hardy palms from

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[megalife21]

The entire jersey shore plus long island can grow pindo, windmill, and needle palms all year round outdoors.

[x5h21q9]

where is this place located?

[buttermobile]

Hopefully, this winter they took precautions and protected this Windmill Palm as it will be iffy if they haven't with single and negative F lows so far.

[AGAVEFARMER]

Does anyone have experience with Cretan Date Palms. I hear they are very cold hardy. I have been growing some for about a year.

[buttermobile]

All date palms will not grow reliably well colder than USDA zone 8b with out extensive winter protection and they prefer well drained sandy soils. In NJ outside of a greenhouse they are not hardy.

[AGAVEFARMER]

Thanks for your response. But I should have clarified that I was wondering about anyones experience with Cretan Date Palms. I live in California, but was wondering how well Cretan Date Palms have done in other climates. I bought the seeds specifically because they were marketed as cold tolerant.

[buttermobile]

Again, cold tolerant is a relative term, if you are in USDA Zone 8b and warmer, they should be fine, especially if you are in Southern California.  I doubt the Cretan Date palm will do well in anything colder than 8b.

[buttermobile]

I too am a cold hardy palm grower in Northern Virginia and have over 15 Windmill Palms in my yard. It pays to protect these palms after transplant with frost cloth, small X-mas lights and lots of extra mulch until they get established-usually about 3 years. Even so, be prepared to protect the palm if temperatures go below 0F or they will sustain damage that may kill them by the next Spring. Better safe than sorry. Sabal Minor and the Needle Palm are also good choices for USDA Zone 7a.

[bj616]

Trachycarpus fortunei ( Chinese Windmill Palm) Nice looking female specimen, make sure to water the Hell out of it because it's a new transplant. I am a palm grower and I also transplant big palms here, wet is the key when you transplant. I make the soil in the hole just like mud. I also hit it with 5-15-5 Transplanter liquid. Although T.fortunei is a favourite arborecent Palm for northern experimenters, T.takil is the hardiest. The Hardiest shrubby palms are S.minor and Rhapidophyllum hystrix.

[yeahthatlukekid]

i bet that set you back a pretty penny:) looks good. i tried one at my central ohio home 2 years ago, it died due to inadiquit protection (after it was hit by -3F) i have another large(ish) palm in a pot, and i will plant that next year after we move, I CANT WAIT!!!!!

[Torjus91]

tracatyrus fortonei right.

[bj616]

Trachycarpus fortunei, one of eight species in the genus of Trachycarpus. In New Jersey they still will need protection in a cold winter. The most cold tolerant of the species is T.takil.