Snatch grip deadlift from a platform - Charles Poliquin style

[lukemma1]

Slow down the eccentric tempo for strength gains and especially if you're looking at them from a mass building stand point. I put one of my athletes on 50X0 for 10 sets of 4 and they worked very well

[TheKingClem]

that insignia on your shorts looked like the batsignal for a second

[kwstas67]

would u propose alternating bent deadlifts to these?i think i will(with oly shoes)cause i feel they take load off the lower back and place more on the upper back and hamstrings.Am i right?which is better?i m afraid when i go really heavy on deadlift (conventional)i round my back but i found this no-pussy lift.what u say?

[KeeganStrength]

@kwstas67 these don't tend to work the back too hard because you have to use a lower weight because the ROM is bigger

[260329696louis]

Poliquin would recommand a much slower tempo however!

[260329696louis]

@260329696louis **On your way down, obviously!

[KeeganStrength]

@260329696louis yeah, I'm still not convinced of the slow tempo stuff for athletes what do you think?

[scarred10]

@260329696louis depends entirely on what youre trying to achieve.I wouldnt be concerned with what poloquin would recommend anyway

[Draykid]

@scarred10

Why not?

[scarred10]

@Draykid because he has been known to recommend a bunch of crap.Hes a funny one and most of his material is well supported by evidence but some is crap he concluded from his own observations or just came to him in a dream by the looks of it.

[Draykid]

@scarred10

He's got some pretty strong observations, working with elite athletes in virtually every relevant global sport.

Beyond that, I'm not entirely sure what exactly you mean. A lot of his methods are better suited for bodybuilders than some other athletes, but that doesn't change that they are, by and large, effective.

[scarred10]

@Draykid observations arent good evidence unless he tested and experimented on huge numbers of athletes like what was done in russia and Germany during the communist era.Hes trained a few elites in sports that are popular in canada mostly,winter sports mostly.His methods are definitely not better suited to bodybuilders,if they were he wouldnt be training any athletes,hes a very good coach but bullshits a good bit outside his area of expertise.Youd have to be a coach yourself to understand.

[Draykid]

@scarred10

I assume you're making the claim to being a coach yourself?

And if doing 10+ sets of squats with 6-20 reps in various positions isn't a bodybuilder-style workout, then what is?

"has trained Olympic medalists in 12 different sports, including gold medal sprinter Donovan Bailey."

[scarred10]

@Draykid most of my work is sports rehabilitation but I coach swimming and martial arts for the last 15 years.During the rehab process I'll often have to modify technique or retrain it.There are times for bodybuilding even with athletes but most of the stuff he prescribes for athletes is max strength and power.6 to 20 is a very broad range with very differing effects.

[Draykid]

@scarred10

I see then. Always interesting to hear the opinion of one coach on another. And yes, that was a very broad range. Actually, not particularly common in Poliquin's recommendations, but it was a specific workout he recommended for breaking through a plateau.

[scarred10]

@Draykid there you go then,he was prescribing for planned overtraining in the short term to force new adaptation,quite common with smart coaches.

[Draykid]

@scarred10

He seems like a fan of that actually. He had an article about using super compensation to both cause large, short term adaptations and to learn which portion of a group of athletes is willing to put 110% into training. It consisted of 2 weeks of nearly non-stop training with little rest periods and 100% put into every single set, with the goal being to only be able to handle 70% (or maybe it was a 70% drop in strength, can't recall) of what you did in the first week by week 2.

[56mikeo]

From the second one on looked really good. I'm glad to see you doing them like a deadlift-squat combo.

[pprimalPerformance]

@56mikeo thanks for the tip mate. Do you do them?