Americans should watch this film as part of a lesson in how it was China & not America that defeated Japan. And then after the millions of Chinese that died so the US could have trade dominance in the Pacific we go & fuck them in the ass because they decided to choose a form of government that we didn't like. To this day America still backs the fascist guomindang in Taiwan.
Many of the Japanese war criminals were set free during trial because America made a deal for the exchange of the medical records of the biological experiments the Japanese performed on the Chinese. This is a sick part of history..
So I wanted to exchange to Japan.. and I never knew the history of Japan.
This movie just made me cry.. What japanese did. Murder women after rape, shoot people after they donne nothing.. Its just a horrible thing what happend back then. I have a way different look on the Japanese right now.. Not on the ones of today.. but the ones that did these crimes. Innocent people had to suffer.. It just made me drop my tears.
This is the Chinese equivelant of Schindler's List. The Japanese were just as brutal if not moreso than the Nazi's during WWII, but, you really only learn about the European side of the war, why?
Don't hate the grandchildren of the killers. Don't hate the fruits of their ignorance. Hate those who covered things up and made their grandchildren ignorant.
I watched this movie a few days ago, and found it very disturbing and uncomfortable, especially the rape scenes. It would take courage to watch it again. It's not really a family movie, it's very sad and emotional, and at most traumatizing and very disturbing. I would say it's a great drama, but please try and watch it as a documentary. I would never watch it again!!
Another antinational movie to be sure. More "the allies were good and defended the world against evil nationals" movie. I'm sure there will be a "oh the poor jew" scene thrown in there.
Why don't we ALLL stop with this perpetual tit-for-tat and think about the social and economic sources of all these wars and try to STOP THAT SHIT FROM HAPPENING over and over again? There is no evil on this world, just people pursuing their interests with or without regard to other people's interests. Stop war, talk!
To all the people saying the Japanese should apologise, wasn't it enough that they had two atom bombs, and were occupied for over 30 years after the war, and they became the first country to renounce war in the world, in their actual constitution, so that Japan can only go to war legally now if invaded.
It was a war, everyone needs to apologise. Not just the losers.
@undertakerRach please stop talking - the Nanking massacre did occur, and maybe it was more exaggerated when reported, as many of these things are, but the city was taken by the Japanese during WWII.
The Nanking Massacre was a false story, which was created by KMT.
The massacre did not have any witnesses, and the population was increased in 1938. Moreover, Chinese government edited, created, and trimmed 143 pictures in the Nanking Massacre Museum.
They wish the massacre was a true story because China has lot of human right problems. While Chinese people are accusing Japan over the massacre, Chinese dictatorial regime must be safe.
@Ombrenuit According to the testimonies in The International Military Tribunal for the Far East (IMTFE), Chinese government could not prove the murder of 340,000. Therefore, the Chinese government was absorbed in collecting proofs even during the IMTFE. In other words, the Chinese government had already fixed the number of casualties into more than 300,000 before they began to collect the evidence.
I`m looking forward to watch this film in Japan. Chinese government insist that over 300 thousand of citizens were killed by cruel Japanese Imperial army without evidence.Probably Japanese soldier must be good maｇician to hide such a numerous number of corpus. There are no photographs even such kind of big accident had occured in spite of there exist many foreign correspondent near Nanjing.
@moskovskaya2011 check out internet, you know the thing your using right now to talk such nonsense on here. There are plenty of pictures with dead man and woman. Dead children. A nice one is the head of a chinese man on a fence outside of Nanjing. Oh and they also found 1000s and 1000s of skeletons near Nanjing. It appears that your magicians arent that good at their job after all. And the foreigners there did have stories to tell about the Japanese, FACTS, get them straight
@moskovskaya2011@moskovskaya2011 Umm...do you not know how to use google? Let me help you. Go to google. Type in Nanjing Massacre Photographs. Spend 5 minutes browsing. It really wasn't that hard for me, so I know we can do it together :)
the fact that some of the chinese kuomintang army wear german's stahlhelm made me feel like seeing the Japan vs Germans :D But I still confused how they get the helmet from? from shanghai?
@nyipnyop The Germans supplied the kuomingtang up till 1938, they had military instructors all over China and they gave weapons and helmets to the Chinese, they even trained some regiments, but as they grew closer to Japan in 1937 they stopped supplying them.
This is a terrible story told compellingly. The fact that it is a 'historical' narrative imbues every scene with an almost palpable sense of tragic inevitability. It's a gripping, upsetting, unsettling film, full of deeply evocative images. Probably, we don't need to be reminded of man's inhumanity so much. But the
Japanese have never apologized for their wanton destruction of Nanking, and this film is a reminder of what is due...
@ribogok I think they were referring to Spielberg's Saving Private Ryan. Which in IMO did change how audiences perceive war movies and served as a sort of benchmark.
Saw it this evening. It is a masterpiece of anti-war filmmaking that gives more time to the Japanese perspective than you'd ever expect. This is exactly the "Chinese Schindler's List" it promises to be. It's been a while since I saw a Chinese movie this exceptional (not since the height of the Fifth Generation's more personal films), and it offers a brand new vision of what Chinese film can be. Highly recommended.
@AwesomeAlvin Remember Gengis Khan and his descendants? They are considered brilliant strategists, conquerors and what not. He, Halagu and Timur killed more civilians among them than the Japanese. So, like I said, has been happening ever since there has been war. No difference. Only difference is that we now have the media to take sides.
@Apprentice1979pk Well for the time (1930's) the method was extremely cruel and inhumane to have head chopping competitions and raping a women then stabbing her vag*** with a katana and cutting open pregnant women to see the unborn infant. Gengis Khan and the Nazi only take it as far as instant death.
The Nazis only took it as far as instant death? What planet are you from? My mum's family is Roma or Gypsy, and a third of my people died in the death camps including some of my family. The Nazis performed medical experiments on the children, letting them die slowly and studying the effects. Yet you consider this "humane?" You're rather a disgusting human being, aren't you?
@reelirishboy5 You see how your mad that I don't know the details the Nazi did? Its the same thing with me cause my ancestors are Chinese and has been killed by the Japanese. The fact of the matter is that people know what the Germans did, but the Japanese to this day refuses to admit that they committed war crimes, and they are getting away with it. If you want to bring up "inhumane" read this first wikipedia . org/wiki/Japanese_war_crime
First they came for the communists, but I did not speak up because I wasn't Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn't speak up because I was Protestant. And then they came for me, and by then there was no one left to speak up.
And if someone comes for you or your family, should we say "no big deal, people die in war."?
I wouldn't blame you if you did not. It is war. Purpose of war is to kill the enemy and kill all their will to oppose by any means necessary. If we had been were doing it correctly (like the old times), there would be peace in Afghanistan by now but no, we have to follow the Geneva convention and what not and the result is that the war is just dragging on and on and on.
There is no "correct way" to kill people. My mum's family were Russian Gypsies. I have virtually no relatives on that side of the family as a result of Hitler's so called "ethnic cleansing." But hey, it's fine because the slaughter of my people made the Nazis all the more likely to win, right?
You are taking it way too personally and are bringing the Nazis and ethnic cleansing into the whole discussion when I am not talking about that at all and neither is the movie in question. The Japanese were not gassing the Chinese in mass extermination camps. The city showed extreme signs of resistance to the occupation and the only way to ensure occupation was to make them an example for others. I do not find that wrong. Anyone who supports resistance is the same as resistance.
You have a twisted mind then. There is nothing wrong with the rape and murder of thousands of people? You are defending a group of animals while implying that the fault lay with the Chinese. Tell me, what is so wrong with standing up to defend your city against an invading army? When is trying to protect your home and your family a crime? Yet according to you, the Chinese had it coming. For the crime of 'resistance.'
Take a good look around today. The popular term for people, who are resisting an invasion on their homeland and defending their country and homes this very moment (Yes, I am talking about Afghanistan), are freely branded as criminals, terrorists, insurgents and what not by the media and are not offered any kind of Geneva accord protection. I am just asking the same standard to be applied in case of Chinese in the movie.
You dodged my question very effectively. Why don't you answer it straightforward now? Did the Gypsies, Warsaw Jews, and French Resistance deserve what they got?
No, I did not. I left the answer with you. If you consider the Afghan resistance to be terrorists and criminals, then the French resistance were also terrorists and criminals and deserved to be executed. The Gypsies and Jews are a completely different matter altogether since they never resisted. They were a target of ethnic cleansing and that was wrong and senseless. Please, don't mix the two together.
You obviously don't know your history. The Jews and the Gypsies did resist, in Warsaw, in France, in Denmark and in Kolchestky. They resisted by living, hiding, and surviving when the Nazis wanted them dead. But of course, killing them would make other countries afraid to fight back. So it was justified in your eyes.
@reelirishboy5 A lot of Jews were partisan fighters in the forests, blowing up Nazi trains. They formed Jewish brigades because the Polish and French partisans wouldn't let them join. They were all fighting the Nazis, but antisemitism trumped everything.
And don't pretend that 1930's China and Afghanistan are in the same situation. Yes, your country should probably get out of there. But even if they did, the Taliban would keep killing their own people regardless. The Chinese didn't send suicide bombers into mosques. And finally, you have effectively stated you're own belief that the killing of a child is not always a crime. People like you are the reason people like me learn about suffering from our own families.
If you believe that the Taliban kill their own people indiscriminately or that they send suicide bombers in mosques, then Sir, lets end the discussion. You win. Have a nice and prosperous life (no sarcasm intended here).
1) Of course I don't believe that, but my point is that the situations are turned by vastly different circumstances and any comparison between the two are going to be flawed. And 2) Just answer my goddamn question.
Chinese resistance and the Afghan resistance are different? Both have their countries invaded, their homes destroyed, their families killed, the worth of their blood reduced to less than a nickel. Yet we glorify one while demonizing the other. That was my underlying point. If we are ready to exterminate the Taliban and all their sympathizers then we should not blame the Japanese for this (considering the times when carpet bombing on civilian population was called war strategy).
And it was your country who invaded, not mine. I know all too well what an invading army can do. I grew up in Ireland. My people were called terrorists for trying to defend our homes from the British. I was born into a generation that had the courage to call murder what it is, and as a result, my country and my people finally have peace. And you come in saying 'to hell with the Chinese, they got what they deserved.' Then so did both of my peoples. And the Jews.
@Apprentice1979pk go fuck yourself. you think you're a smart cunt? wanna talk in generalities? Pakistan are a bunch of black cunts who hid one of the worst terrorists (who indirectly killed thousands of people). go fuck youself you 50 year old virign fuck.
Wow, you got offended so much that you actually created a random account to come and lash out at me? I am impressed. And please don't talk about generalities since you have no idea who I am or where I am from. This is ze Internet after all laddie.
@Apprentice1979pk What the hell are you talking about? The Chinese were not communists at this point, that dreaded party has yet to take power. And only a few years before these events, the Chinese were under Manchurian rule for 400 years. So how exactly are you comparing this situation to exterminating the Taliban? I don't get how?
@gariadara Look, all I am asking is to apply the same standards on everyone. Allies freely bombed the population centers just like everyone. Heck, USA bombed two cities to oblivion, exterminating its population but no one says anything about that. Now here the Japanese do almost the same thing and a movie is made glorifying the resistance. I mentioned Afghanistan since same thing is happening again. Drone strikes, indiscriminate air strikes kill hundreds of civilians every month but not a word
@Apprentice1979pk You're simplifying the situation. Afghanistan is not made up of a single group of people. And are you seriously defending the Taliban? I don't see how anyone can defend a group that would cut off your head if they found out you were gay or drove a car when you're a woman.
It is written by a British journalist and even he is defending the Taliban. But anyways, I did not mention the Taliban. I said ordinary civilians die every day by indiscriminate airstrikes and allies killed a lot of civilians in WWII but for everyone just demonizes the Japanese since the lost the war. Apply same standards. What the Japanese did was no different from the allies. Difference is history favors the victorious
And I can make the corrolation between the Chinese and my own people because Germany and Japan were allies and supported each other's methods. The Roma did not resist the Nazis, yet they were exterminated. Did they have it coming? Did the Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto, teenagers who held back the Nazis for a month, have it coming? Did the French Resistance, who saved my mum's family, have it coming when its members were executed? These are people's lives we're talking about!
Sorry text can lead the reader in a direction that the writer did not intend for them to go, and by the way nevermind blaming the next of kin blame the men before them that left them the blame if anything.
@ReaperofThoughts blaming "the men before them" only works if the next of kin agrees that said men deserved the blame. otherwise, the atrocities these "men from before" committed are disputed, when they are indisputable. It's as if Germans today deny the holocaust ever happened. And how can one simply agree to that? how can one accept that such a crime against humanity was never committed? One cannot and should not, therefore, apologies and full recognition of crimes are required.
@gariadara im not sure if you got my other comment when I agreed with you that recognition and apologizing would be proper. If they dont accept the blame than one would think that they are just as much to blame and I think thats what sparked these series of comments over the japanese not admitting to this. reply again if you want its nice to run into people that can write intelligent opinions that they believe instead of people who think that they are perfect. But I got one more for you!!!
@gariadara Blaming the men before them does not only work that way. You missed the "left them the blame" part. Had they never done anything to be blamed for, then there would be no one to blame at all. but we are going in circles on our opinions and we could do this forever. These things did happen, and your right. That I dont deny. I just dont agree with people that judge other people for things that happend before they were on the planet, thats all. good fight good night lol.
@ReaperofThoughts Yeah, it's not about "judging" but the fact that crimes against humanity are omitted, that is the driving force behind most people's problems with the japanese.
@ReaperofThoughts What do you mean the omission of the crimes has nothing to do with what you wrote? If someone born after an event and has learned about said event yet prefers to omit said event, said someone is guilty of the omission, is he not?
@gariadara We have different views on reality, what I wrote is that this could have never happend, your right on the apoligizing is proper, and my view on innocence. Im not here to kiss your ass, I respected your opinion and you didnt even say thank you. We just have different views, In my opinion we can only move forward. Im not sure where you are from but im from the US and we have the freedom to think that way. Your to bitter for me man, im done this isnt worth it anymore.
@ReaperofThoughts Oh save your "we have the freedom" speech, I'm from Los Angeles. So did I get you right? you're willing to forgive and forget about 9/11? And the fact that more than 75% of muslims worldwide refused to condemn the act is fine with you?
@gariadara Now you bring 9/11 in to this? oh and by the way they fought a war for us to think that way in the 1770's, and in syria protesters are being shot in the street. Now take your left hand and stick your thumb directly up your ass, then take your right hand and put your foot directly in your mouth. get lost - im from South Boston you can have the last word if you want over and out.
@ReaperofThoughts you still didn't answer my question. I fail to see how being from Boston (I can see why you lot are known for your exemplary genteel) or anywhere else contributes to our debate. 9/11 happened. and a great-grand child of an Al-Qaeda member would be wrong if he chooses to omit it.
@ReaperofThoughts Say that I'm Catholic but I condone the prosecution of Protestants in the Middle Ages by the Catholic Church....in fact saying it never happened. Saying that the Church never charged Galileo with herecy. Then I'm a terrible Catholic. no matter if these events happened hundreds of years ago.
that have committed atrocity and that is almost all cultures the ones that deserve respect are the ones that have tried to make amends as germany has done, as the USA has done its attempt to deal with its crime of slavery, the really despicable thing about japanese culture as a whole not necessarily as individuals is the unwillingness to admit their crimes, so they are still guilty of them, while the germans really have done better to atone and deserve to be forgiven.
I was going to say "How could the Japanese tell between their men and the Chinese" but then I realized how similar it is with Indians and Pakistanis! (I'm Indian)
Why would they release this at this time what the Japanese tsunami is still such a big deal? I mean this movie came out like almost 3 years ago. Why release such a sensitive movie in such times?
I stopped in the middle of the trailer and looked it up...I started to cry. What is WRONG with our world? We are so screwed up...it's sick and cruel and simply atrocious what they did to all those men and women. Rape, forced incest, burying people alive, mass execution...it's so horrible. All those people. Lord, I don't know how you can love us, when we do such things...
Sad when crimes towards humanity are commited, even sadder that they get forgotten over time. No innocent blood should be shed anywhere whether because of wars or by natural disasters. Yes, these where true events, they did happen and what's unforgivable is that the Japanese distroyed all archived evidence after the events and haven't apologised to this day!
@mitchscammedme There's no point in holding grudges against the people now for they are innocent. There's no point in hating someone for crimes that he/she did not commit. I think it's just as heartless to say that they deserved to be engulfed by a tsunami. Perhaps they should actually highlight this part of history in their textbook, to show their acknowledgment and repentance over their ancestors' cruelty, and also to serve as a reminder to the coming generation.
@mitchscammedme Well they were bombarded by the US where thousands lost their lives and suffered great humiliation from everyone. For the Japanese people, pride is the most important thing. Yes they were brutal and cruel, but the people today are not responsible for their fathers' crimes. In fact that generation has already passed. If my father killed someone, should I also be punished for merely being his child despite being completely innocent.
@mitchscammedme As a child I would definitely defend him because of my loves towards him, because he's my dad even though he's wrong. The Japanese people truly are remarkable. I've been to Japan myself and have witness their attitudes which at times, sad to say is far more better than certain Chinese. Also, Japan contributed a lot to Shi Chuan's earthquake, I'm sure that accounts for something.
@kairiXtifa Your point about father and son is only valid when the father merely "kills someone". There's no defending a man that kills a woman by raping her and then thrusting a bayonet up her vagina, and then proceeds to bury her children alive. But today's Japanese only deserve to be punished because they have not asked for forgiveness yet. The Germans came to terms with their past mistakes, while the Japanese keep denying theirs.
@TastyBiscuits My main focus was not the act of killing, but instead the crimes of a father need not be the child's responsibility. Yes they have not offered an official apology like what the Germans did, most of them mainly being personal ones, and many of them deny such killings. I'm not saying that they are guiltless, in fact I wish that they would show more remorse for their actions by acknowledging it.
@TastyBiscuits Perhaps, they did deserve the tsunami, but what about those who are sorry for their ancestors' mistakes. What about the new generation which know nothing about such things? It is those who wish to hide the truth who should be punished no? Why condemn the whole of Japan if you see the tsunami as an act of judgment? I see the tsunami as a disaster, whether there is any significance to it happening is not to my knowing.
@kairiXtifa thats true new generations shouldnt suffer for the mistakes of past generations but sometimes they do. in my country we believe that you must pray for the mistakes of ur past ancestor because if karma didnt get them it will get you. even thought that is just a believe and it is dumb you never know if you are paying for the mistakes of your ancestor only god knows what they did
@kairiXtifa i absolutely find it appalling that people think japan deserved the tsunami. it's an act of God.....and acts of God are blind to our understanding. Although I do think they should admit to the full scope of the accusation. i do believe children are responsible for the sins of their fathers. by cultural connection, familial connection, they know their predecessors committed heinous acts, therefore they should apologize on their behalf. I constantly apologize for my family.
@gariadara Thats absurd how could you blame an infant for something, more importantly how could YOU not the world blame someone for something they have not done. I agree Japan didnt not deserve that as the United States did not deserve Katrina but Id argue that the oil spill was not an act of god. I dont mean to insult your religious views im a bit of a realist. The whole on a planet thats moving while moving around a sun thats also moving thing. You should not apologize for what you cant change
Act of God is a metaphor for natural disasters, which are blind....don't mistake it for religiousness. I said children, never said infants. someone who is 30 is still a child of his father, right? When one is old enough to understand things, one should be responsible for the actions of one's family (by extension, country). As I said, if my dad trips over an old lady, I'd apologize for him even if I had nothing to do with it. I'm part of this family and I represent it and its actions.
@gariadara I understand now I thought that you were implying that people should be imprisoned or executed or something to that extreme for something that they simply did not do. I agree apologizing would be the proper thing to do never the less ill stand by what I said you can apologize decades later all that you want it still is not going to change anything.
@ReaperofThoughts there's a reason why in many instances the law requires establishment of a Next of Kin. as such individuals can represent the actions and decisions of the person in question. the reasoning from which this stems is the same reasoning why a country's citizens should be representative of said countries actions, and thus are responsible to voice whether or not they approve of the actions of their government.
@TastyBiscuits Furthermore, what they did for their war crimes is they exclude what they did in WWII. Many of the japanese today do not have any knowledge of what happened in WWII. As the education system in Japan excluded the details and actions in WWII in their history curriculum.
@TastyBiscuits like the japanese people from this day were there 80 jears ago comon most of those old geezers are dead anyway you say japanese must ask forgivnes for something wath there grand parents did then whole man kind should pay. i could be related to atilla the hun so i should ask forgivness for wath he did thousands of years ago . war change people japanese are very kind people ofcourse the goverment make mistakes and war change people .
@john666x1 I don't think every Japanese person needs to apologize, but the nation as a whole should recognize that the atrocities were committed. When governments make mistakes they should acknowledge them.
@TastyBiscuits but they don't. so it's left to every single japanese person. they should at least acknowledge their past. and if they have enough "honor" left in their bones they should sincerely apologize.
i studied about the Nanking Rape..truly they didn't deserve to be treated like that..so heart breaking..we are lucky today that we are protected by the Law of Human Right..i hope this thing will never happen to us in the future..Hope this movie will make us learn that every human being didn't deserve to be treated like animal..what ever the situation is.
@igaratih "Law of Human Right" ?? i think the law favors the rich and powerful only or the winners of a war.the losers will always b portrayed as evil, while crimes of winners will go unpunished.
@igaratih correct, all laws are made with good intent, but bad people with money and influence almost always manage to twist the law to their benefit.
@Andymanse8 If Germany planned to control Europe only they would have succeeded. The only reason Hitler failed was because he wanted Russia too and, as bad ass as Hitler was, he was no match for Stalin.
@daron11114 i think they show the trailer here is because to makers think it is a very good movie but has recieved very little attention. My stepdad said to me the other day "the american movies are viewed so much because they use alot of publicity for their movies".
Americans should watch this film as part of a lesson in how it was China & not America that defeated Japan. And then after the millions of Chinese that died so the US could have trade dominance in the Pacific we go & fuck them in the ass because they decided to choose a form of government that we didn't like. To this day America still backs the fascist guomindang in Taiwan.
Turk1389 1 week ago
Powerful movie
GapGirl44 1 week ago
Many of the Japanese war criminals were set free during trial because America made a deal for the exchange of the medical records of the biological experiments the Japanese performed on the Chinese. This is a sick part of history..
RunsLikeaNose 1 week ago
this is an ANTI-WAR movie. if you start hating people after seeing the movie, either you are a moron or the movie has failed in every aspect.
the movie is really good, one of the best asian war film that i've seen.
MilkPudding 2 weeks ago
really good movie, it reminded me of Schindler's List though
PacificWest117 1 month ago
@PacificWest117 Totally but damn I remember Schindlers list Touching but this movie is just as good
aznhalofan650 3 weeks ago
I've seen this movie today on Film 1.
Just a part of it but it was in the middle
So I wanted to exchange to Japan.. and I never knew the history of Japan.
This movie just made me cry.. What japanese did. Murder women after rape, shoot people after they donne nothing.. Its just a horrible thing what happend back then. I have a way different look on the Japanese right now.. Not on the ones of today.. but the ones that did these crimes. Innocent people had to suffer.. It just made me drop my tears.
CheetahPowerz 1 month ago
this is why japs are the most hated people in asia.
vvvSoulreapervvv 1 month ago
@vvvSoulreapervvv ..and the Moron of the week award goes to.....
iRULEYAY 3 weeks ago
@iRULEYAY to you?
vvvSoulreapervvv 2 weeks ago
14 japs thumbs-downed this movie.
tehjassman626 2 months ago
@tehjassman626 How? Fuck off trying to get thumbs up.
milodara93 2 months ago
This is an hardy film to watch, but also the best war movie in years...
oblivion69inception 2 months ago
This is the Chinese equivelant of Schindler's List. The Japanese were just as brutal if not moreso than the Nazi's during WWII, but, you really only learn about the European side of the war, why?
yourvidisbad101 2 months ago 3
This movie was incredibly intense and mesmerizing. Everyone should watch it.
Pdids01 2 months ago 3
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Don't hate the grandchildren of the killers. Don't hate the fruits of their ignorance. Hate those who covered things up and made their grandchildren ignorant.
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WaefanChang 3 months ago
I watched this movie a few days ago, and found it very disturbing and uncomfortable, especially the rape scenes. It would take courage to watch it again. It's not really a family movie, it's very sad and emotional, and at most traumatizing and very disturbing. I would say it's a great drama, but please try and watch it as a documentary. I would never watch it again!!
Shaka468 3 months ago
@Shaka468 no one said it was a family Movie
TheAz7231 3 months ago
@TheAz7231 I didn't say anyone said it was
Shaka468 3 months ago
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One of the best movies I've ever seen.
Gatuxa 3 months ago
Another antinational movie to be sure. More "the allies were good and defended the world against evil nationals" movie. I'm sure there will be a "oh the poor jew" scene thrown in there.
14ByTheSword 3 months ago
Why don't we ALLL stop with this perpetual tit-for-tat and think about the social and economic sources of all these wars and try to STOP THAT SHIT FROM HAPPENING over and over again? There is no evil on this world, just people pursuing their interests with or without regard to other people's interests. Stop war, talk!
AlphaGulch 4 months ago 2
To all the people saying the Japanese should apologise, wasn't it enough that they had two atom bombs, and were occupied for over 30 years after the war, and they became the first country to renounce war in the world, in their actual constitution, so that Japan can only go to war legally now if invaded.
It was a war, everyone needs to apologise. Not just the losers.
GuddaBuddaZing 4 months ago
@GuddaBuddaZing Best YouTube comment of all time.
werepig 2 months ago
@undertakerRach please stop talking - the Nanking massacre did occur, and maybe it was more exaggerated when reported, as many of these things are, but the city was taken by the Japanese during WWII.
GuddaBuddaZing 4 months ago
日本人として見るのが辛い映画だった。
lovettvm 4 months ago
fuck japs
eyt19 5 months ago
The Nanking Massacre was a false story, which was created by KMT.
The massacre did not have any witnesses, and the population was increased in 1938. Moreover, Chinese government edited, created, and trimmed 143 pictures in the Nanking Massacre Museum.
They wish the massacre was a true story because China has lot of human right problems. While Chinese people are accusing Japan over the massacre, Chinese dictatorial regime must be safe.
undertakerRach 5 months ago
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Ombrenuit 3 months ago
@undertakerRach What? Poor baby doesn't think the Japanese are capable of such a thing? 古田 順子. Now that was pretty fucked up.
Ombrenuit 3 months ago
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@Ombrenuit According to the testimonies in The International Military Tribunal for the Far East (IMTFE), Chinese government could not prove the murder of 340,000. Therefore, the Chinese government was absorbed in collecting proofs even during the IMTFE. In other words, the Chinese government had already fixed the number of casualties into more than 300,000 before they began to collect the evidence.
undertakerRach 3 months ago
見たい。知りたい。怖いけど。
fill525 5 months ago
Now..this is worth seeing :)
ndreiaa 6 months ago
I`m looking forward to watch this film in Japan. Chinese government insist that over 300 thousand of citizens were killed by cruel Japanese Imperial army without evidence.Probably Japanese soldier must be good maｇician to hide such a numerous number of corpus. There are no photographs even such kind of big accident had occured in spite of there exist many foreign correspondent near Nanjing.
moskovskaya2011 6 months ago
@moskovskaya2011 check out internet, you know the thing your using right now to talk such nonsense on here. There are plenty of pictures with dead man and woman. Dead children. A nice one is the head of a chinese man on a fence outside of Nanjing. Oh and they also found 1000s and 1000s of skeletons near Nanjing. It appears that your magicians arent that good at their job after all. And the foreigners there did have stories to tell about the Japanese, FACTS, get them straight
lamasingz 6 months ago
@moskovskaya2011 @moskovskaya2011 Umm...do you not know how to use google? Let me help you. Go to google. Type in Nanjing Massacre Photographs. Spend 5 minutes browsing. It really wasn't that hard for me, so I know we can do it together :)
Ombrenuit 3 months ago
looks good, but is it actually in black and white or is that just the trailer?
ZombieSlayer1210 6 months ago
Jew: This didn't happen you Anti-Semitics, only Jews died and suffered in ww2
Reality: About 65-70 million people (Axis included) died in that war. 40 million of them civilians.
16 million Chinese - 12 million Russian
What about those.. huh
sykofreak18 6 months ago
the fact that some of the chinese kuomintang army wear german's stahlhelm made me feel like seeing the Japan vs Germans :D But I still confused how they get the helmet from? from shanghai?
nyipnyop 6 months ago
@nyipnyop The Germans supplied the kuomingtang up till 1938, they had military instructors all over China and they gave weapons and helmets to the Chinese, they even trained some regiments, but as they grew closer to Japan in 1937 they stopped supplying them.
lamasingz 6 months ago
This is a terrible story told compellingly. The fact that it is a 'historical' narrative imbues every scene with an almost palpable sense of tragic inevitability. It's a gripping, upsetting, unsettling film, full of deeply evocative images. Probably, we don't need to be reminded of man's inhumanity so much. But the
Japanese have never apologized for their wanton destruction of Nanking, and this film is a reminder of what is due...
konopelli 6 months ago
EPIC FILM.
ISPANOS2001 7 months ago
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Very interested to see this movie, can't wait 'till it comes out !
123getsugatenshou 7 months ago
"Gifted as Spielberg" - now that's what I call a dubious praise.
ribogok 7 months ago
@ribogok I think they were referring to Spielberg's Saving Private Ryan. Which in IMO did change how audiences perceive war movies and served as a sort of benchmark.
gariadara 7 months ago
Does this movie have rape? The Real thing had thousands of rape cases
bigdragon8me 7 months ago
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let bygones be bygones
Mapletopia 8 months ago
Saw it this evening. It is a masterpiece of anti-war filmmaking that gives more time to the Japanese perspective than you'd ever expect. This is exactly the "Chinese Schindler's List" it promises to be. It's been a while since I saw a Chinese movie this exceptional (not since the height of the Fifth Generation's more personal films), and it offers a brand new vision of what Chinese film can be. Highly recommended.
Bobaklives 8 months ago
AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO THINKS THIS IS WORTH SEEING????
instead of arguing about national matters, to which I'm sure none of us really understand? LETS JUST GET HYPED ABOUT THE MOVIE!!!!
DemonicPickle25 9 months ago 41
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@DemonicPickle25 Gunna go see it right now..
ilovecrap 8 months ago
@DemonicPickle25 IS THIS BASED ON TRUE EVENTS?? JUST WANNA KNOW.
jacoboscar79 4 months ago 2
@jacoboscar79 Yes it is.
blossomsbounty 3 months ago
Wow...that looks amazing. The black-and-white gives it a real Schindler's List feel.
SirPercivalGallant 9 months ago
I studied this last year. Glad to see they finally know the truth about what happened in the very beginning of Japanese Invasions.
ebabeex 9 months ago
Big Deal! Its war. People die in war. Has been happening ever since there has been war.
Apprentice1979pk 9 months ago
@Apprentice1979pk yea its not really a big deal in our lives right now but its history, and history should not be forgotten.
Startnumber5 9 months ago
@Apprentice1979pk its different if its civilians
AwesomeAlvin 9 months ago
@AwesomeAlvin Remember Gengis Khan and his descendants? They are considered brilliant strategists, conquerors and what not. He, Halagu and Timur killed more civilians among them than the Japanese. So, like I said, has been happening ever since there has been war. No difference. Only difference is that we now have the media to take sides.
Apprentice1979pk 9 months ago
@Apprentice1979pk Well for the time (1930's) the method was extremely cruel and inhumane to have head chopping competitions and raping a women then stabbing her vag*** with a katana and cutting open pregnant women to see the unborn infant. Gengis Khan and the Nazi only take it as far as instant death.
AwesomeAlvin 9 months ago
@AwesomeAlvin
The Nazis only took it as far as instant death? What planet are you from? My mum's family is Roma or Gypsy, and a third of my people died in the death camps including some of my family. The Nazis performed medical experiments on the children, letting them die slowly and studying the effects. Yet you consider this "humane?" You're rather a disgusting human being, aren't you?
reelirishboy5 9 months ago
@reelirishboy5 You see how your mad that I don't know the details the Nazi did? Its the same thing with me cause my ancestors are Chinese and has been killed by the Japanese. The fact of the matter is that people know what the Germans did, but the Japanese to this day refuses to admit that they committed war crimes, and they are getting away with it. If you want to bring up "inhumane" read this first wikipedia . org/wiki/Japanese_war_crime
AwesomeAlvin 9 months ago
@Apprentice1979pk
First they came for the communists, but I did not speak up because I wasn't Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn't speak up because I was Protestant. And then they came for me, and by then there was no one left to speak up.
And if someone comes for you or your family, should we say "no big deal, people die in war."?
reelirishboy5 9 months ago
@reelirishboy5
I wouldn't blame you if you did not. It is war. Purpose of war is to kill the enemy and kill all their will to oppose by any means necessary. If we had been were doing it correctly (like the old times), there would be peace in Afghanistan by now but no, we have to follow the Geneva convention and what not and the result is that the war is just dragging on and on and on.
Apprentice1979pk 9 months ago
@Apprentice1979pk
There is no "correct way" to kill people. My mum's family were Russian Gypsies. I have virtually no relatives on that side of the family as a result of Hitler's so called "ethnic cleansing." But hey, it's fine because the slaughter of my people made the Nazis all the more likely to win, right?
reelirishboy5 9 months ago
@reelirishboy5
You are taking it way too personally and are bringing the Nazis and ethnic cleansing into the whole discussion when I am not talking about that at all and neither is the movie in question. The Japanese were not gassing the Chinese in mass extermination camps. The city showed extreme signs of resistance to the occupation and the only way to ensure occupation was to make them an example for others. I do not find that wrong. Anyone who supports resistance is the same as resistance.
Apprentice1979pk 9 months ago
@Apprentice1979pk
You have a twisted mind then. There is nothing wrong with the rape and murder of thousands of people? You are defending a group of animals while implying that the fault lay with the Chinese. Tell me, what is so wrong with standing up to defend your city against an invading army? When is trying to protect your home and your family a crime? Yet according to you, the Chinese had it coming. For the crime of 'resistance.'
reelirishboy5 9 months ago
@reelirishboy5
Take a good look around today. The popular term for people, who are resisting an invasion on their homeland and defending their country and homes this very moment (Yes, I am talking about Afghanistan), are freely branded as criminals, terrorists, insurgents and what not by the media and are not offered any kind of Geneva accord protection. I am just asking the same standard to be applied in case of Chinese in the movie.
Apprentice1979pk 9 months ago
@Apprentice1979pk
You dodged my question very effectively. Why don't you answer it straightforward now? Did the Gypsies, Warsaw Jews, and French Resistance deserve what they got?
reelirishboy5 9 months ago
@reelirishboy5
No, I did not. I left the answer with you. If you consider the Afghan resistance to be terrorists and criminals, then the French resistance were also terrorists and criminals and deserved to be executed. The Gypsies and Jews are a completely different matter altogether since they never resisted. They were a target of ethnic cleansing and that was wrong and senseless. Please, don't mix the two together.
Apprentice1979pk 9 months ago
@Apprentice1979pk
You obviously don't know your history. The Jews and the Gypsies did resist, in Warsaw, in France, in Denmark and in Kolchestky. They resisted by living, hiding, and surviving when the Nazis wanted them dead. But of course, killing them would make other countries afraid to fight back. So it was justified in your eyes.
reelirishboy5 9 months ago
@reelirishboy5 A lot of Jews were partisan fighters in the forests, blowing up Nazi trains. They formed Jewish brigades because the Polish and French partisans wouldn't let them join. They were all fighting the Nazis, but antisemitism trumped everything.
Yehudittx 8 months ago
@Apprentice1979pk
And don't pretend that 1930's China and Afghanistan are in the same situation. Yes, your country should probably get out of there. But even if they did, the Taliban would keep killing their own people regardless. The Chinese didn't send suicide bombers into mosques. And finally, you have effectively stated you're own belief that the killing of a child is not always a crime. People like you are the reason people like me learn about suffering from our own families.
reelirishboy5 9 months ago
@reelirishboy5
If you believe that the Taliban kill their own people indiscriminately or that they send suicide bombers in mosques, then Sir, lets end the discussion. You win. Have a nice and prosperous life (no sarcasm intended here).
Apprentice1979pk 9 months ago
@Apprentice1979pk
1) Of course I don't believe that, but my point is that the situations are turned by vastly different circumstances and any comparison between the two are going to be flawed. And 2) Just answer my goddamn question.
reelirishboy5 9 months ago
@reelirishboy5
Chinese resistance and the Afghan resistance are different? Both have their countries invaded, their homes destroyed, their families killed, the worth of their blood reduced to less than a nickel. Yet we glorify one while demonizing the other. That was my underlying point. If we are ready to exterminate the Taliban and all their sympathizers then we should not blame the Japanese for this (considering the times when carpet bombing on civilian population was called war strategy).
Apprentice1979pk 9 months ago
@Apprentice1979pk
And it was your country who invaded, not mine. I know all too well what an invading army can do. I grew up in Ireland. My people were called terrorists for trying to defend our homes from the British. I was born into a generation that had the courage to call murder what it is, and as a result, my country and my people finally have peace. And you come in saying 'to hell with the Chinese, they got what they deserved.' Then so did both of my peoples. And the Jews.
reelirishboy5 9 months ago
@Apprentice1979pk go fuck yourself. you think you're a smart cunt? wanna talk in generalities? Pakistan are a bunch of black cunts who hid one of the worst terrorists (who indirectly killed thousands of people). go fuck youself you 50 year old virign fuck.
jojo12345678999 9 months ago
@jojo12345678999
Wow, you got offended so much that you actually created a random account to come and lash out at me? I am impressed. And please don't talk about generalities since you have no idea who I am or where I am from. This is ze Internet after all laddie.
Apprentice1979pk 8 months ago
@Apprentice1979pk What the hell are you talking about? The Chinese were not communists at this point, that dreaded party has yet to take power. And only a few years before these events, the Chinese were under Manchurian rule for 400 years. So how exactly are you comparing this situation to exterminating the Taliban? I don't get how?
gariadara 7 months ago
@gariadara Look, all I am asking is to apply the same standards on everyone. Allies freely bombed the population centers just like everyone. Heck, USA bombed two cities to oblivion, exterminating its population but no one says anything about that. Now here the Japanese do almost the same thing and a movie is made glorifying the resistance. I mentioned Afghanistan since same thing is happening again. Drone strikes, indiscriminate air strikes kill hundreds of civilians every month but not a word
Apprentice1979pk 7 months ago
@Apprentice1979pk You're simplifying the situation. Afghanistan is not made up of a single group of people. And are you seriously defending the Taliban? I don't see how anyone can defend a group that would cut off your head if they found out you were gay or drove a car when you're a woman.
gariadara 7 months ago
@gariadara
Read the book Taliban by James-Fergusson.
It is written by a British journalist and even he is defending the Taliban. But anyways, I did not mention the Taliban. I said ordinary civilians die every day by indiscriminate airstrikes and allies killed a lot of civilians in WWII but for everyone just demonizes the Japanese since the lost the war. Apply same standards. What the Japanese did was no different from the allies. Difference is history favors the victorious
Apprentice1979pk 7 months ago
@Apprentice1979pk They do.
Yehudittx 8 months ago
@Apprentice1979pk
And I can make the corrolation between the Chinese and my own people because Germany and Japan were allies and supported each other's methods. The Roma did not resist the Nazis, yet they were exterminated. Did they have it coming? Did the Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto, teenagers who held back the Nazis for a month, have it coming? Did the French Resistance, who saved my mum's family, have it coming when its members were executed? These are people's lives we're talking about!
reelirishboy5 9 months ago
0:39 (T_T)
hanluy1215 9 months ago
Sorry text can lead the reader in a direction that the writer did not intend for them to go, and by the way nevermind blaming the next of kin blame the men before them that left them the blame if anything.
ReaperofThoughts 9 months ago
@ReaperofThoughts blaming "the men before them" only works if the next of kin agrees that said men deserved the blame. otherwise, the atrocities these "men from before" committed are disputed, when they are indisputable. It's as if Germans today deny the holocaust ever happened. And how can one simply agree to that? how can one accept that such a crime against humanity was never committed? One cannot and should not, therefore, apologies and full recognition of crimes are required.
gariadara 9 months ago
@gariadara im not sure if you got my other comment when I agreed with you that recognition and apologizing would be proper. If they dont accept the blame than one would think that they are just as much to blame and I think thats what sparked these series of comments over the japanese not admitting to this. reply again if you want its nice to run into people that can write intelligent opinions that they believe instead of people who think that they are perfect. But I got one more for you!!!
ReaperofThoughts 9 months ago
@gariadara Blaming the men before them does not only work that way. You missed the "left them the blame" part. Had they never done anything to be blamed for, then there would be no one to blame at all. but we are going in circles on our opinions and we could do this forever. These things did happen, and your right. That I dont deny. I just dont agree with people that judge other people for things that happend before they were on the planet, thats all. good fight good night lol.
ReaperofThoughts 9 months ago
@ReaperofThoughts Yeah, it's not about "judging" but the fact that crimes against humanity are omitted, that is the driving force behind most people's problems with the japanese.
gariadara 9 months ago
@gariadara Yeah, your an asshole for not respecting my opinions twice. The omission of the crimes has nothing to do with what I just "wrote" to you.
ReaperofThoughts 9 months ago
@ReaperofThoughts What do you mean the omission of the crimes has nothing to do with what you wrote? If someone born after an event and has learned about said event yet prefers to omit said event, said someone is guilty of the omission, is he not?
gariadara 9 months ago
@gariadara We have different views on reality, what I wrote is that this could have never happend, your right on the apoligizing is proper, and my view on innocence. Im not here to kiss your ass, I respected your opinion and you didnt even say thank you. We just have different views, In my opinion we can only move forward. Im not sure where you are from but im from the US and we have the freedom to think that way. Your to bitter for me man, im done this isnt worth it anymore.
ReaperofThoughts 9 months ago
@ReaperofThoughts Oh save your "we have the freedom" speech, I'm from Los Angeles. So did I get you right? you're willing to forgive and forget about 9/11? And the fact that more than 75% of muslims worldwide refused to condemn the act is fine with you?
gariadara 9 months ago
@gariadara Now you bring 9/11 in to this? oh and by the way they fought a war for us to think that way in the 1770's, and in syria protesters are being shot in the street. Now take your left hand and stick your thumb directly up your ass, then take your right hand and put your foot directly in your mouth. get lost - im from South Boston you can have the last word if you want over and out.
ReaperofThoughts 9 months ago
@ReaperofThoughts you still didn't answer my question. I fail to see how being from Boston (I can see why you lot are known for your exemplary genteel) or anywhere else contributes to our debate. 9/11 happened. and a great-grand child of an Al-Qaeda member would be wrong if he chooses to omit it.
gariadara 9 months ago
@ReaperofThoughts Say that I'm Catholic but I condone the prosecution of Protestants in the Middle Ages by the Catholic Church....in fact saying it never happened. Saying that the Church never charged Galileo with herecy. Then I'm a terrible Catholic. no matter if these events happened hundreds of years ago.
gariadara 9 months ago
Sorry text can lead the reader in a direction that the writer did not intend for them to go
ReaperofThoughts 9 months ago
is there a 3d and color version anytime soon?
parker808 9 months ago
that have committed atrocity and that is almost all cultures the ones that deserve respect are the ones that have tried to make amends as germany has done, as the USA has done its attempt to deal with its crime of slavery, the really despicable thing about japanese culture as a whole not necessarily as individuals is the unwillingness to admit their crimes, so they are still guilty of them, while the germans really have done better to atone and deserve to be forgiven.
MrBillcale 9 months ago
Why it is still showing after two years...
TheApollo2012 9 months ago
Why does everyone have to bring the imaginary man in the sky to everything.
Barbiecansuckit 9 months ago
Is the movie gonna be in Black and White too?
zzzzzzz95 9 months ago
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In a country with so many people it's only fair that only the best directors get seen. That's why so many chinese movies can be seen as masterpieces.
snowdrop118 9 months ago
I was going to say "How could the Japanese tell between their men and the Chinese" but then I realized how similar it is with Indians and Pakistanis! (I'm Indian)
frederickbenny 9 months ago
i know america has donne bad things to ppl. but theirs one thing to deny it and deny this ppl the justice they deserved.
JulieRebu07 10 months ago
Why would they release this at this time what the Japanese tsunami is still such a big deal? I mean this movie came out like almost 3 years ago. Why release such a sensitive movie in such times?
ChouJui 10 months ago
I stopped in the middle of the trailer and looked it up...I started to cry. What is WRONG with our world? We are so screwed up...it's sick and cruel and simply atrocious what they did to all those men and women. Rape, forced incest, burying people alive, mass execution...it's so horrible. All those people. Lord, I don't know how you can love us, when we do such things...
g3g3ify 10 months ago
one of the most horrific events to have ever occurred.
WingedAngel9 10 months ago
Sad when crimes towards humanity are commited, even sadder that they get forgotten over time. No innocent blood should be shed anywhere whether because of wars or by natural disasters. Yes, these where true events, they did happen and what's unforgivable is that the Japanese distroyed all archived evidence after the events and haven't apologised to this day!
wenjia691990 10 months ago
so the movie's really gonna be in black and white..?
tgt184 10 months ago
the tsunami served them right then
mitchscammedme 10 months ago
@mitchscammedme There's no point in holding grudges against the people now for they are innocent. There's no point in hating someone for crimes that he/she did not commit. I think it's just as heartless to say that they deserved to be engulfed by a tsunami. Perhaps they should actually highlight this part of history in their textbook, to show their acknowledgment and repentance over their ancestors' cruelty, and also to serve as a reminder to the coming generation.
kairiXtifa 10 months ago
@kairiXtifa please look at the facts. they were savages and clearly deserved retaliation from God himself.
mitchscammedme 10 months ago
@mitchscammedme Well they were bombarded by the US where thousands lost their lives and suffered great humiliation from everyone. For the Japanese people, pride is the most important thing. Yes they were brutal and cruel, but the people today are not responsible for their fathers' crimes. In fact that generation has already passed. If my father killed someone, should I also be punished for merely being his child despite being completely innocent.
kairiXtifa 10 months ago
@mitchscammedme As a child I would definitely defend him because of my loves towards him, because he's my dad even though he's wrong. The Japanese people truly are remarkable. I've been to Japan myself and have witness their attitudes which at times, sad to say is far more better than certain Chinese. Also, Japan contributed a lot to Shi Chuan's earthquake, I'm sure that accounts for something.
kairiXtifa 10 months ago
@kairiXtifa Your point about father and son is only valid when the father merely "kills someone". There's no defending a man that kills a woman by raping her and then thrusting a bayonet up her vagina, and then proceeds to bury her children alive. But today's Japanese only deserve to be punished because they have not asked for forgiveness yet. The Germans came to terms with their past mistakes, while the Japanese keep denying theirs.
TastyBiscuits 10 months ago 10
@TastyBiscuits My main focus was not the act of killing, but instead the crimes of a father need not be the child's responsibility. Yes they have not offered an official apology like what the Germans did, most of them mainly being personal ones, and many of them deny such killings. I'm not saying that they are guiltless, in fact I wish that they would show more remorse for their actions by acknowledging it.
kairiXtifa 10 months ago
@TastyBiscuits Perhaps, they did deserve the tsunami, but what about those who are sorry for their ancestors' mistakes. What about the new generation which know nothing about such things? It is those who wish to hide the truth who should be punished no? Why condemn the whole of Japan if you see the tsunami as an act of judgment? I see the tsunami as a disaster, whether there is any significance to it happening is not to my knowing.
kairiXtifa 10 months ago
@kairiXtifa thats true new generations shouldnt suffer for the mistakes of past generations but sometimes they do. in my country we believe that you must pray for the mistakes of ur past ancestor because if karma didnt get them it will get you. even thought that is just a believe and it is dumb you never know if you are paying for the mistakes of your ancestor only god knows what they did
JulieRebu07 10 months ago
@kairiXtifa i absolutely find it appalling that people think japan deserved the tsunami. it's an act of God.....and acts of God are blind to our understanding. Although I do think they should admit to the full scope of the accusation. i do believe children are responsible for the sins of their fathers. by cultural connection, familial connection, they know their predecessors committed heinous acts, therefore they should apologize on their behalf. I constantly apologize for my family.
gariadara 9 months ago
@gariadara That's one less arrogant, proud person in the world.
kairiXtifa 9 months ago
@gariadara Thats absurd how could you blame an infant for something, more importantly how could YOU not the world blame someone for something they have not done. I agree Japan didnt not deserve that as the United States did not deserve Katrina but Id argue that the oil spill was not an act of god. I dont mean to insult your religious views im a bit of a realist. The whole on a planet thats moving while moving around a sun thats also moving thing. You should not apologize for what you cant change
ReaperofThoughts 9 months ago
Act of God is a metaphor for natural disasters, which are blind....don't mistake it for religiousness. I said children, never said infants. someone who is 30 is still a child of his father, right? When one is old enough to understand things, one should be responsible for the actions of one's family (by extension, country). As I said, if my dad trips over an old lady, I'd apologize for him even if I had nothing to do with it. I'm part of this family and I represent it and its actions.
gariadara 9 months ago
@gariadara I understand now I thought that you were implying that people should be imprisoned or executed or something to that extreme for something that they simply did not do. I agree apologizing would be the proper thing to do never the less ill stand by what I said you can apologize decades later all that you want it still is not going to change anything.
ReaperofThoughts 9 months ago
@ReaperofThoughts there's a reason why in many instances the law requires establishment of a Next of Kin. as such individuals can represent the actions and decisions of the person in question. the reasoning from which this stems is the same reasoning why a country's citizens should be representative of said countries actions, and thus are responsible to voice whether or not they approve of the actions of their government.
gariadara 9 months ago
@TastyBiscuits Furthermore, what they did for their war crimes is they exclude what they did in WWII. Many of the japanese today do not have any knowledge of what happened in WWII. As the education system in Japan excluded the details and actions in WWII in their history curriculum.
JordanBo0 8 months ago 9
@JordanBo0 for reference purpose, there is a team project uploaded on youtube - what the japan did to china,
Peace!!
matelovelovelove 2 months ago
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@JordanBo0
what about Germany?
BraceNemesiz 1 month ago
@JordanBo0 Same goes for the education system in U.S.
cwtack24 1 month ago
@TastyBiscuits like the japanese people from this day were there 80 jears ago comon most of those old geezers are dead anyway you say japanese must ask forgivnes for something wath there grand parents did then whole man kind should pay. i could be related to atilla the hun so i should ask forgivness for wath he did thousands of years ago . war change people japanese are very kind people ofcourse the goverment make mistakes and war change people .
john666x1 5 months ago
@john666x1 I don't think every Japanese person needs to apologize, but the nation as a whole should recognize that the atrocities were committed. When governments make mistakes they should acknowledge them.
TastyBiscuits 5 months ago
@TastyBiscuits but they don't. so it's left to every single japanese person. they should at least acknowledge their past. and if they have enough "honor" left in their bones they should sincerely apologize.
ssi1991 5 months ago
@mitchscammedme We don't know whether Karma exists or not, but I believe that to say that they deserve something for which did not commit is wrong.
kairiXtifa 10 months ago
@mitchscammedme no, no it didn't. and im chinese...
Startnumber5 9 months ago
Look interesting
onlydadopest 10 months ago
i studied about the Nanking Rape..truly they didn't deserve to be treated like that..so heart breaking..we are lucky today that we are protected by the Law of Human Right..i hope this thing will never happen to us in the future..Hope this movie will make us learn that every human being didn't deserve to be treated like animal..what ever the situation is.
igaratih 10 months ago
@igaratih "Law of Human Right" ?? i think the law favors the rich and powerful only or the winners of a war.the losers will always b portrayed as evil, while crimes of winners will go unpunished.
yourtube20061 10 months ago
@yourtube20061 that happen if someone didn't understand the meaning of the Law...there's no bad Law..only bad people..
igaratih 10 months ago
@igaratih correct, all laws are made with good intent, but bad people with money and influence almost always manage to twist the law to their benefit.
yourtube20061 10 months ago
i find this difficult to masturbate to
MrSledgehammer93 10 months ago
This looks awesome.
Quionic7 10 months ago
The Japanese were allies with the Nazi's.. They planned to control the whole of Asia while Germany Europe.
Andymanse8 10 months ago 2
@Andymanse8 If Germany planned to control Europe only they would have succeeded. The only reason Hitler failed was because he wanted Russia too and, as bad ass as Hitler was, he was no match for Stalin.
Kafana91 10 months ago
@Kafana91 I know that..
Andymanse8 10 months ago
wat this film is already out now
daron11114 10 months ago
@daron11114 i think they show the trailer here is because to makers think it is a very good movie but has recieved very little attention. My stepdad said to me the other day "the american movies are viewed so much because they use alot of publicity for their movies".
Nosensefornonsense 10 months ago
amazing directing
agapoglou7 10 months ago
Youtube 'Unit 731'
CescoPisicoli 10 months ago
Japan invading China for their resources in the 30's, total massicure!
CescoPisicoli 10 months ago
this doesn't look like a hollywood shit
MrCrynickYT 10 months ago 5
Someone noticed the flags? 0:49
GonaS 10 months ago
@GonaS Google 1936 Olympics.
tedeology 10 months ago
@GonaS Google 1936 Summer Olympics.
tedeology 10 months ago
why black and white? i hate when they do that
eliasz0002 10 months ago
Fucking Japs. No idea what Yanks are so friendly with those cocksuckers but despise the Chinese. sigh
elspoko 10 months ago
@elspoko Diffrent times. different times, not the same plp now, then they were back then.
starmaster40 10 months ago
Does anyone know what piece of music is playing in this trailer?
NotoriA101 10 months ago
I think it would be better in colour. PO
keith171 10 months ago
@keith171 wat is Po?
sam9524 10 months ago
@sam9524 personal opinion
keith171 10 months ago
@keith171 oh , anyway , yea, your right
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sam9524 10 months ago
NICE!.
jussara2851 10 months ago