That had to be a great night for Preston Manning. He started the movement in the mid-late 80s, and finally he got his government. I'm not a Conservative, but I'm always happy for the winner. They won because the majority voted for them. I found it interesting how there was almost a univeral admiration for Jack Layton. It's too bad his life was cut so short. BTW, I'd say the same thing if it was Stephen Harper. We all need to stop hating each other based on politics.
@somewhatlongdong Well no Harper acctually received 40% of the votes (not a majority) it was just that due to the quirks in our system and vote spliting on the left he got the majority of seats. the last PM whos party actually got over 50% of the votes was the honorable Brian Mulroney.
Huzzah! That is exactly why the conservative won! Why? because the conservative love of guns! I love guns, I love the smell, the essence, the feel, and most of all, the sheer manliness when I imagine myself holding a gun. I do not own a gun at the moment, but when I do, it will be glorious days! No longer will I be pestered by regulation and red tape! No longer will I feel socially awkward when I am around gun owning individuals! No longer will the holster in my heart be empty! Hello World!
@uglybitch49 "suck Mr. Harper's c____". Are you talking about what Jack Laydown dreamed of doing in the "Velvet Touch" massage parlour? I agree, Jackie is a disgusting individual.
@uglybitch49 Actually, I am politically neutral. I want what is best for Canada. The answer always seems to come back to Mr. Harper. Canadians must agree as Mr. Harper has thrown Chretien, Martin, Dion and now Iffy into the garbage can of Canadian politics. Jack Laydown of the Nude Democratic Party--what a joke.
@mikefastener Like I said, when you're in a hole, stop digging. You're probably too busy sitting around with your thumb in your bum and you mind in neutral to understand what this means. Oh well, I have other commitments besides being addicted to trolling people on YouTube. Have fun with your sorry existence.
@gricer1326 But the children relate better to you! (Admittedly they have to speak slowly and in single or, at most, double syllable words for you to understand-but you seem to be getting along!)
@mikefastener Mikey - why must you be immature 24 hours a day? I know you're perfectly civil when conversing with your fellow Star Trek fans. Most of them are probably left-wing, too. What is stopping you from being civil here? Could this be the reason you've been unemployed three times in the past eight years? I would think an ex-GM of manufacturing should hold himself to a higher standard!
Maybe you've got something to learn from those two kids of yours (22 and 19). What do you think?
@uglybitch49 Cannot predict the future with certainty. But with McLier`s behaviour, I am sure we can both agree that Ontario deserves better than this Norman Bates clown.
@uglybitch49 With the lies from the lie-beral party (and their well-known corruption scandal) I am not surprised Canadians did not want to give any party a majority. Cdn`s just knew they wanted to keep lie-berals away from the reins of power (thus the outrage at that crazy Socialist-Separatist Coalition with Dion and Iffy).
Canadians have taken their time and can now see that Mr. Harper`s is a strong, honest leader and will not lead the country into a corruption scandal like Chretien.
@uglybitch49 Woman, you're too smart for this guy. Fastener is impervious to reason. So bugger him. I'm just writing this note to say, My God, you leave excellent comments. Very informative. You will never get through to Fastener, but you have utterly destroyed some of his arguments, and OTHER PEOPLE, like me, will benefit. Have a great day.
@mightymissk This piece of shit excuse for a Canadian is clearly a Christian. i agree with you, though. He is a sad excuse for one, as are many right wing fanatics like himself. The sad part is that the peons like himself get played for it by people like Bush and Harper, who throw them a few scraps for their fanatical devotion. There is a video of Harper telling a huge crowd that he will do a vote on same sex marriage, Was it a serious vote? Not likely, as they had no chance to change that law.
@mikefastener In addition, how do you justify support for Diefenbaker, when he was very clearly a great advocate for a Bill of Rights which he passed when he was in power? It also gave power to the judiciary to protect rights. It was not as comprehensive as the Charter, as it left out items such as property rights. However, it was clearly meant to protect against ethnic intolerance by both politicians and citizens alike. Explain yourself.
@mikefastener Fastener, You stated a personal preference, I didn't. Explain yourself. The questions are before you already. Do I have to continue like a kindergarten teacher? Respond,, and explain your inconsistencies. If you make a point in debate, I can question your logic, or ask for explanation, It's simple. You have avoided response twice now. If you lack knowledge of property rights in the Charter, just google it. I'm not researching for you.
@fuarce62 On February 24, federal MP Scott Reid and Ontario MPP Randy Hillier held a joint press conference to promote the protection of a basic human right: the right to property. The two politicians will be introducing resolutions in their respective legislatures which would entrench constitutional protection to property rights in Ontario – and hopefully spark a move to enact similar protection in the rest of Canada as well.
So you are wrong! Apology my kindergarten student.
@mikefastener I'm still waiting for you to research property rights in the Charter so you don't have to ask stupid questions. Let me know when you've done your research. Another avoidance tactic? Sorry, I don't go for sidetracking. Answer the initial question. Is "slimy" your middle name?
@mikefastener In regard to property rights, Scott Reid is talking about the right to compensation, in the case of seizure. This is in addition to what is already entrenched in the Charter. So, why are you so interested in the Charter, when you state that you don't support it at all? You are a mess of confusion.
@mikefastener Nice attempt at sidetracking, as usual. The initial question is still waiting to be answered by you. Are you shitting your pants or something? What is your problem with the Charter? We all know what the answer is, but you're too much of a pussy to say it and actually be yourself. You're a wierd guy.
@mikefastener This is funny. We have Fastener, a white man of UK origin in Canada, who is afraid to state his real beliefs. Interesting paranoia. Interesting dichotomy also. We have someone who is such an incredible wimp, and yet spouts all kinds of garbage to others, except what he fears the most. He can't actually talk about his real beliefs when asked. He can only blame himself for his own fear and paranoia, as he fosters it every day with his avoidance behaviour.
@fuarce62 Still not answering? Another left-winger who has painted themselves into a corner.
I know you are angry, embarrassed, feeling foolish--don't be. With my natural debating skills (I have had since high-school btw) and me being in the "right", it is easy for me to win.
Oh well, maybe you can find a weaker debating opponent.
@mikefastener Well, why don't you fight to get rid of it?, rather than support a party that has no intention to get rid of it? Again, you're acting like a total wimp.
You keep responding to your own negative statement with another negative one. What are you gonna do about the fact that you can't change it whenever you like? You are hystericallly funny. A futile complainer is the impression you give to others.
@mikefastener And once again, you haven't answered about why you would support Diefenbaker, who introduced a bill of rights as a centerpiece of his policy. Also, you have never practically stated why you would have such a coconut up your butt in regard to the Charter. None of your explanations make any real sense. Still waiting for you to quit being a wimp, and explain what it is about supreme court decisions that you don't like.
@mikefastener And why do you support a party/leader that wants to add more clout to a Charter that you seem to greatly dislike in the first place? Is this your normal mode of contradictory dialogue? Doublespeak is what it is normally called.
@mikefastener A Charter cannot be changed at will, so your statement about faith in a party leader is extemely lame, and easily bordering on outright stupidity.
@mikefastener Hey fuckhead!What's your problem?You fucking miserable and need to spread it around to the world?No one needs your butthead crap, and total insensitivity to all human beings.People like you need to be tilled over, buried, and left to rot and compost, just like cow shit, Maybe we can get a decent human being out of the mix next time around.You're just a fucking 55 yr old right wing christian trolling spammer, At first glance, it's so obvious you're just a sad loser. A no-life. LOL
@uglybitch49 Fastener's "on" narcissism--the ultimate drug. A drug especially favoured by right wing nut cases--which might explain their indifference to the public good. And in this case, we're talking about a Tory troll. Fastener may not even be a person. My oldest is sure he's a computer program, operating out of some right wing think tank, cranking out misinformation. Either way, whether he's a soft little Tory grinch or a computer program, he lies & lies & lies. He is profoundly dishonest.
@mightymissk I think it wil be a nice thing to see this Fastener guy die off. This guy doesn't have many years left, especially winessing his miserable life goals he shares with the world. He's just misery in action, and sadly the internet allows this kind of public display of ignorance. The age of multiculturalism is just starting and this guy is a speck of dust in the wind of this storm. He will be relegated more and more to this Youtube stupidity as his venting, and will be long forgotten.
@mikefastener Fastener, you are a repetitive moron. You repeat the same bullshit over and over and over, and NO ONE ever respects you or believes you. You are full of contradictions and gain no respect anywhere that I've seen you post. You're a frivolous piece of shit. Take the risk to say your crap in person, and you will face what people really think of trash like you. You spout pure propaganda, and propaganda in the hands of a weak fool alone in his room is a waste of life, and meaningless.
@mikefastener I'm still waiting for an answer. What decisions are you not happy about in regard to the Charter? Will you be happy when another party gets into power and then makes binding decisions about your rights and freedoms, based on a vote in Parliament?
@fuarce62 I'm also "still waiting for an answer"... since none of us can predict the future, please (for once) answer the question....why do you want unelected individuals making laws? (Supreme Court Justices.)
@mikefastener If you have a problem with extrapolating into the future, then extrapolate into the past, and tell me whether you would have preferred politicians under the Chretien and Martin govts to have the power to make judgments about your rights and freedoms? Still waiting. How many excuses do you have left?
@mikefastener Afraid of answering now, are you? What are you afraid of? It was a simple question. You keep repeating how the Charter is about wrongs and lack of freedom. What is that about? You afraid to tell us? What's so difficult about answering to your own statements?
@mikefastener You are a pussy, aren't you?? Totally afraid to answer a simple question. Afraid to let people know what is behind your rhetoric? You don't even have the guts to be who you actually are. I could have predicted that from the start, but you made it absolutely clear.
The funny thing about these guys is that they think they are actually making an impact. This is the grand illusion of anonymity, and not knowing who you're talking to. The truth over time is that these guys impact on nothing at all, as most of the people they end up relating to are as self ensconced as them. They are too wimpy and slimy to say what they really feel in public. Someone like this would get humiliated and ridiculed for their stupidity in public. This is a wasted life.
@mightymissk Another funny thing about these guys is that the govt that they elect is constantly bringing in more and more monied ethnic asians and others to populate the country. They rant about non-white immigration, but at the same time are so incredibly oblivious to the fact that it is the govt they elected who is doing it. It is bigotry, combined with incredible ignorance and religious and political fanaticism. A chiling concoction, to put it lightly. Truth is a figment of the past.
@mightymissk I've read some of his posts. He's a total redneck christian right wing loner. Climate change is not an issue, and so forth. Funny part is he supports Diefenbaker here, who supported having a Bill of Rights, yet criticized Trudeau for EXACTLY the same thing. He has no idea what he stands for. A normal Cons stands for fiscal conservatism, yet he constantly excuses creating massive debt. These are just a few examples of his interest in ignorance over truth. Turd for brains...
@mikefastener Hey UNFASTENEDBRAIN, What decisions made under the Charter of Rights and Freedoms to date, do you disagree with? You seem to have a problem with judges making decisions about rights and freedoms, rather than politicians. Explain which decisions you don't like.
@fuarce62 Oh my silly friend. The more important question for you is this...."do you have a problem with unaccountable judges making decisions and making new laws rather than elected politicians?"
A type of "Star Chamber" so to say.
(It may be time for you to run away as I am obviously out debating you and I am receiving e-mails from left wingers asking me to stop since you are looking so foolish!)
Again, floor is yours......................(don't disappoint)...............tick, tick, tick....
@uglybitch49 I blame Canadians for being deceived by the liberal party and trudeau. We are indeed lucky that Canadians now see the type of criminals these guys are and voted them into the garbage can on May 2nd.
@uglybitch49 I do agree that Mr. Mulroney had a lot of mess to clean up after old fuddle duddle trudeau. trudeau's caring about the West was demonstrating in his crazy energy policies. (And how many liberal MP's are in Alberta today did you say?)
With trudeau-boy's flirting with murders and torturers (Castro) it is amazing that Canada had any international reputation left. Luckily we had Mr. Mulroney to rebuild Canada's place in the world.
@uglybitch49 "What the f___ am I on?"....no need to be on anything now. Canadians have tossed out the lie-beral party (along with its well known corruption and entitlements) and elected a strong leader in Mr. Harper. If any of us are high, it is the high of knowing we are now be governed by someone who understands us and cares about us. (Not lie-berals trying to steal our money.)
@uglybitch49 I certainly agree that Mr. Mulroney had to turn the country around after the crazy years of lie-beral spending! Unfortunately, this took some funds; however, Mr. Mulroney made it very easy for the following lie-beral governments to balance the budget.
Yes, we all owe Mr. Mulroney our thanks for Canada's fiscal success.
@uglybitch49 Sad that your debating skills are limited to profanity! (Mine, as you have been "stung" many times by my wit, show you I am not!)
There is a new sheriff in town...Mr. Harper has removed that lie-beral corruption that made Canada the laughing stock of the world and replaced it with respect.
@uglybitch49 I agree with you! I see a general happiness on the streets of Toronto knowing we will soon have Mr. Ford, Mr. Hudak and Mr. Harper moving all of us forwards.
@uglybitch49 You are one hardcore left wing nut! (I know, a little redundant to say left wing and nut in the same sentence.)
You must agree that things are so good for much of Canada....Mr. Harper's roaring success on the federal scene, Mr. Ford's roaring success as Mayor of Toronto and the soon to be election of Mr Hudak as Premier of Ontario.
@uglybitch49 Trudeau changed Canada for the worse. Therefore you cannot deny that we want nothing to do with his legacy and deny that we are his children. (Except that love child, of course.)
@uglybitch49 A Constitution that almost destroyed a country. A Charter of Wrongs and Lack of Freedoms that results in laws being made by unelected officials (judges).
Yes, I agree we would be better of without them and you are the hero worshiping extremist!
@uglybitch49 I and most Canadian are not Trudeau's children! (Although I am aware that Trudeau had a little, "love child" that was exposed by the media. How disgusting and shameful.
@uglybitch49 Wow! Amazing that left-wingers with all their talk of diversity, always get so angry with anyone with a different point of view! Shows the hypocrisy of left-wingers....don't you think?
You can't debate with selective memory which you, "conveniently" like to employ in the memory of your, so called, hero Trudeau.
Bringing in a Constitution that almost destroyed the country and a Charter of Rights that gives judges the ability to make laws--yes, these made Canada worse.
Thumb this up if you think mikefastener is a total waste of Youtube thread space...and a total waste of your time and energy to respond to. He has been labelled as a compulsive "master-baiter" and there doesn't seem to be any reason to refute that...
He is a self-proclaimed christian, and is masterbaiting with true devotion......
@paulfornasier Thumbs up for sure, Fastener IS a waste of energy, but I worry that his lies may actually influence people. Good for you for fighting the fanatic. But I have one small interjection. Fastener is NOT a Christian. Neo-conservatives--all Tories in fact--are--by definition--ANTI-Christian. They hate the guts of poor people. They demonstrate their hatred by word & by deed at every opportunity. They actually USE the poor as vote-getting scapegoats. They hate the people Jesus loved.
@mightymissk His lies will never influence anyone. That's the sad part about his existence. This guy wil die, having lived a meaningless life, and with lots of crap on Youtube to show his legacy. His voluminous crap will be here for everyone to see, long after he's gone. If I was related to him, I would feel shameful as hell to see the evidence of what he spent his days and nights doing,The interesting part about the internet is that this frovolity and waste of life is now displayed for all.
@uglybitch49 Let us drop the Trudeau "hero" discussion. Whenever I point out the facts about Trudeau's disgusting record, you claim, "I wasn't born", "I don't know", "I don't care".
I sure we both agree that means that you don't know what you are talking about.
@uglybitch49 Your viewpoint (bias as it is) is very selective. The money to erase the deficit came from taxpayers--not Chretien! Always remember that.
Love it that you were not alive for the NEP and therefore don't care; however, you do care enough to call Trudeau (falsely) a "hero". Your lack of consistency is shameful (like most lie-beral supporters).
@uglybitch49 You are confused. Chretien used Mr. Mulroney's GST revenues, the economic surge after Mr. Mulroney's FTA (both items Chretien vowed in the election to eliminate) and the stealing of much of the transfer payments to the provinces (which destroyed health care to this day). Chretien certainly has a lot to answer for.
@uglybitch49 I certainly agree Mr. Mulroney had a lot of mess to clean up after years of liberal spending. (interesting about the GST/FTA that Chretien vowed to destroy; but, kept them on. Mr. Mulroney certainly planted the flowers--Chretien harvested them. Mr. Mulroney is who we have to thank for Canada's fiscal stability.)
Trudeau's disgusting behaviour towards Western Canada ensures that he is no "hero" as you call him.
@uglybitch49 Mr. Mulroney's approval ratings are climbing--history and time are a good crucible for the truth. If you want to focus on international travel, ask Trudeau about his trips to Cuba fawning over that dictator, torturer Castro.
Yes, Trudeau certainly has a lot to answer for--too bad it is too late to demand he account for this shameful behaviour.
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@gundamWWW You know, I would prefer to accept an ex-PM (supposedly all these German payments occurred after Mulroney was PM) rather than the liberal party taking money from Canadian taxpayers.
@mikefastner bud that aggrement is so hard to get.out of our economy balences on it we would have to alter our country to better lean on another set of ways , terrible majority but not even 40.percent of peoples vots
...so was the name change of the former corporation GOVERNMENT OF CANADA, as is apparently now on all official government letter heads now reading THE HARPER GOVERNMENT a legal way to escape strict liability accountability ?
~as in corporate bankruptcy filling or Libyan War Reparations with the hesionization of our NATO peackeepers ?
=wounder which letter head was used to stand down our British Columbia Radiological monitoring system, 18 hours before Fukushma Radioactive Fallout rained down
That had to be a great night for Preston Manning. He started the movement in the mid-late 80s, and finally he got his government. I'm not a Conservative, but I'm always happy for the winner. They won because the majority voted for them. I found it interesting how there was almost a univeral admiration for Jack Layton. It's too bad his life was cut so short. BTW, I'd say the same thing if it was Stephen Harper. We all need to stop hating each other based on politics.
somewhatlongdong 3 months ago
@somewhatlongdong Well no Harper acctually received 40% of the votes (not a majority) it was just that due to the quirks in our system and vote spliting on the left he got the majority of seats. the last PM whos party actually got over 50% of the votes was the honorable Brian Mulroney.
Gardenstatehomecomin 3 weeks ago
The problem with Brian Mulroney is his style, not his policies. Not so much now, but the arrogance during his tenure.
somewhatlongdong 3 months ago
@somewhatlongdong ANd he is the greenest PM ever.
TheEZPAXIIChannel 3 months ago
@somewhatlongdong your just whining because the GST got passed
gopconservative78 1 week ago
I still love that word REFORRRRRM!
sexymike1253 3 months ago
DOES ANYONE HAVE THE GLOBAL NEWS COVERAGE OF THIS ELECTION???
TheEZPAXIIChannel 4 months ago
Mulroney still looks sleazy and slick as he did in his "glory days" back in the 80's.
cheeriosinabowl 4 months ago
@cheeriosinabowl You are so hateful and narrow-minded. Say something nice or SFTU! Asshole!!!!!!!!
VeryHugeAss 4 months ago
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@VeryHugeAss
LOL -- you ask me to say something nice and yet you call me an asshole!
You are a true blue piece of shit. LOL.
cheeriosinabowl 4 months ago
Now time to get those F-18 Super Hornets here in Canada along with switching the Snowbirds Acrobatic Team at Air Shows using F-18 Hornets
BBQFanNo1 6 months ago
5 million Canadian gun owners stood and and decided not to take it anymore. Thats why the Conservatives won a majority.
pittsky 6 months ago 3
Huzzah! That is exactly why the conservative won! Why? because the conservative love of guns! I love guns, I love the smell, the essence, the feel, and most of all, the sheer manliness when I imagine myself holding a gun. I do not own a gun at the moment, but when I do, it will be glorious days! No longer will I be pestered by regulation and red tape! No longer will I feel socially awkward when I am around gun owning individuals! No longer will the holster in my heart be empty! Hello World!
asdfvcxas 5 months ago
May 2, 2011 was a wonderful night. It was the last day of Income Tax season, Osama got killed and the Conservatives won a Majority. Well done!!!
Exotic3000 6 months ago
@uglybitch49 "suck Mr. Harper's c____". Are you talking about what Jack Laydown dreamed of doing in the "Velvet Touch" massage parlour? I agree, Jackie is a disgusting individual.
mikefastener 8 months ago
@uglybitch49 Actually, I am politically neutral. I want what is best for Canada. The answer always seems to come back to Mr. Harper. Canadians must agree as Mr. Harper has thrown Chretien, Martin, Dion and now Iffy into the garbage can of Canadian politics. Jack Laydown of the Nude Democratic Party--what a joke.
Makes sense.
mikefastener 8 months ago
@uglybitch49 I am sure if it was up to you, we would be dancing around the Socialist maypole--luckily Canadians can now see through the silly game.
mikefastener 8 months ago
@mikefastener Hey mikey, when you're in a hole, stop digging.
gricer1326 8 months ago
@gricer1326 Oh grocer, with my out-debating you so many times, I am sure this discussion is beyond you.
Go back to the Children's Table of Debating.
mikefastener 8 months ago
@mikefastener Like I said, when you're in a hole, stop digging. You're probably too busy sitting around with your thumb in your bum and you mind in neutral to understand what this means. Oh well, I have other commitments besides being addicted to trolling people on YouTube. Have fun with your sorry existence.
gricer1326 8 months ago
@gricer1326 Say "Hi" to the kids for me when you return to the Children's Table of Debating. (I know you even find the venue challenging.)
mikefastener 8 months ago
@mikefastener Why don't you do it yourself? You're already there, wouldn't that be easier? Or are you too lazy?
gricer1326 8 months ago
@gricer1326 But the children relate better to you! (Admittedly they have to speak slowly and in single or, at most, double syllable words for you to understand-but you seem to be getting along!)
mikefastener 8 months ago
@mikefastener Mikey - why must you be immature 24 hours a day? I know you're perfectly civil when conversing with your fellow Star Trek fans. Most of them are probably left-wing, too. What is stopping you from being civil here? Could this be the reason you've been unemployed three times in the past eight years? I would think an ex-GM of manufacturing should hold himself to a higher standard!
Maybe you've got something to learn from those two kids of yours (22 and 19). What do you think?
gricer1326 8 months ago 4
@uglybitch49 Cannot predict the future with certainty. But with McLier`s behaviour, I am sure we can both agree that Ontario deserves better than this Norman Bates clown.
mikefastener 8 months ago
@uglybitch49 With the lies from the lie-beral party (and their well-known corruption scandal) I am not surprised Canadians did not want to give any party a majority. Cdn`s just knew they wanted to keep lie-berals away from the reins of power (thus the outrage at that crazy Socialist-Separatist Coalition with Dion and Iffy).
Canadians have taken their time and can now see that Mr. Harper`s is a strong, honest leader and will not lead the country into a corruption scandal like Chretien.
mikefastener 8 months ago
@uglybitch49 I completely agree with you!!!
Years from now, Canadians will ask, "When did lie-beral corruption finally get removed from the Canadian government?"
We will all be able to answer, "When we granted Mr. Harper a majority--why did it take some of us so long?"
Great years for Canada coming up.
Agreed?
mikefastener 8 months ago
@uglybitch49 Too bad that trudeau boy destroyed Canada. We are not the country we once was.
Luckily we have Mr. Harper building up our international reputation. (Canadians rejected that American, Iffy and we are all so proud.)
Glad I can educate you and I hope you are receptive to the truth.
mikefastener 8 months ago
@uglybitch49 Interesting, Ugly that old Chretien boy (the corrupt lie-beral government btw) also received that percentage.
Tell me where your post is back then complaining about Chretien boy's majority....
Anything else would be .....hypocrisy! Agreed?
(My excellent debating skills are certainly showing here folks!)
mikefastener 8 months ago
@uglybitch49 Woman, you're too smart for this guy. Fastener is impervious to reason. So bugger him. I'm just writing this note to say, My God, you leave excellent comments. Very informative. You will never get through to Fastener, but you have utterly destroyed some of his arguments, and OTHER PEOPLE, like me, will benefit. Have a great day.
mightymissk 8 months ago
@mightymissk This piece of shit excuse for a Canadian is clearly a Christian. i agree with you, though. He is a sad excuse for one, as are many right wing fanatics like himself. The sad part is that the peons like himself get played for it by people like Bush and Harper, who throw them a few scraps for their fanatical devotion. There is a video of Harper telling a huge crowd that he will do a vote on same sex marriage, Was it a serious vote? Not likely, as they had no chance to change that law.
fuarce62 8 months ago
@fuarce62 Interesting folks that falsely-boy constantly focuses on religion (ie. Christian). Why not ask about my Hindu beliefs? Jewish beliefs?
I know falsely-boy is now interested in my skin colour!
Shows the hypocrisy of left-wingnuts who preach diversity!
Oh well, my falsely-boy is so weak, I am getting bored debating!
Go ahead falsely, anything interesting to say?...........
Floor is yours.
mikefastener 8 months ago
@mikefastener In addition, how do you justify support for Diefenbaker, when he was very clearly a great advocate for a Bill of Rights which he passed when he was in power? It also gave power to the judiciary to protect rights. It was not as comprehensive as the Charter, as it left out items such as property rights. However, it was clearly meant to protect against ethnic intolerance by both politicians and citizens alike. Explain yourself.
fuarce62 8 months ago
@fuarce62 Where are "property rights" in the Charter of Wrongs and Lack of Freedoms?
Explain yourself!
I (and many Canadians) demand an answer from you!!!
mikefastener 8 months ago
@mikefastener Fastener, You stated a personal preference, I didn't. Explain yourself. The questions are before you already. Do I have to continue like a kindergarten teacher? Respond,, and explain your inconsistencies. If you make a point in debate, I can question your logic, or ask for explanation, It's simple. You have avoided response twice now. If you lack knowledge of property rights in the Charter, just google it. I'm not researching for you.
fuarce62 8 months ago
@fuarce62 On February 24, federal MP Scott Reid and Ontario MPP Randy Hillier held a joint press conference to promote the protection of a basic human right: the right to property. The two politicians will be introducing resolutions in their respective legislatures which would entrench constitutional protection to property rights in Ontario – and hopefully spark a move to enact similar protection in the rest of Canada as well.
So you are wrong! Apology my kindergarten student.
mikefastener 8 months ago
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fuarce62 8 months ago
@mikefastener I'm still waiting for you to research property rights in the Charter so you don't have to ask stupid questions. Let me know when you've done your research. Another avoidance tactic? Sorry, I don't go for sidetracking. Answer the initial question. Is "slimy" your middle name?
fuarce62 8 months ago
@fuarce62 Property rights answer posted....
Apology?
mikefastener 8 months ago
@mikefastener In regard to property rights, Scott Reid is talking about the right to compensation, in the case of seizure. This is in addition to what is already entrenched in the Charter. So, why are you so interested in the Charter, when you state that you don't support it at all? You are a mess of confusion.
fuarce62 8 months ago
@fuarce62 So you admit that property rights are not fully entrenched!
Apology?
mikefastener 8 months ago
@mikefastener Nice attempt at sidetracking, as usual. The initial question is still waiting to be answered by you. Are you shitting your pants or something? What is your problem with the Charter? We all know what the answer is, but you're too much of a pussy to say it and actually be yourself. You're a wierd guy.
fuarce62 8 months ago
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@fuarce62 Answer my question...sixth time.
mikefastener 8 months ago
@mikefastener This is funny. We have Fastener, a white man of UK origin in Canada, who is afraid to state his real beliefs. Interesting paranoia. Interesting dichotomy also. We have someone who is such an incredible wimp, and yet spouts all kinds of garbage to others, except what he fears the most. He can't actually talk about his real beliefs when asked. He can only blame himself for his own fear and paranoia, as he fosters it every day with his avoidance behaviour.
fuarce62 8 months ago
@fuarce62 Still not answering? Another left-winger who has painted themselves into a corner.
I know you are angry, embarrassed, feeling foolish--don't be. With my natural debating skills (I have had since high-school btw) and me being in the "right", it is easy for me to win.
Oh well, maybe you can find a weaker debating opponent.
Hope I helped you.
mikefastener 8 months ago
@mikefastener Well, why don't you fight to get rid of it?, rather than support a party that has no intention to get rid of it? Again, you're acting like a total wimp.
You keep responding to your own negative statement with another negative one. What are you gonna do about the fact that you can't change it whenever you like? You are hystericallly funny. A futile complainer is the impression you give to others.
fuarce62 8 months ago
@mikefastener And once again, you haven't answered about why you would support Diefenbaker, who introduced a bill of rights as a centerpiece of his policy. Also, you have never practically stated why you would have such a coconut up your butt in regard to the Charter. None of your explanations make any real sense. Still waiting for you to quit being a wimp, and explain what it is about supreme court decisions that you don't like.
fuarce62 8 months ago
@mikefastener And why do you support a party/leader that wants to add more clout to a Charter that you seem to greatly dislike in the first place? Is this your normal mode of contradictory dialogue? Doublespeak is what it is normally called.
fuarce62 8 months ago
@fuarce62 It depends on the faith we have in a party leader. I am sure you agree we have had no trust with any lie-beral leader or that Jack Laydown.
mikefastener 8 months ago
@mikefastener A Charter cannot be changed at will, so your statement about faith in a party leader is extemely lame, and easily bordering on outright stupidity.
fuarce62 8 months ago
@fuarce62 "Charter cannot be changed at will"....judges are making laws by their interpretation of that crazy charter. We were better off without it!
mikefastener 8 months ago
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fuarce62 8 months ago
@uglybitch49 Oh well, Jack Laydown of the NDP (Nude Democratic Party) is probably your hero is well!
(My this is getting too easy for me to out debate you!)
mikefastener 8 months ago
@mikefastener Hey fuckhead!What's your problem?You fucking miserable and need to spread it around to the world?No one needs your butthead crap, and total insensitivity to all human beings.People like you need to be tilled over, buried, and left to rot and compost, just like cow shit, Maybe we can get a decent human being out of the mix next time around.You're just a fucking 55 yr old right wing christian trolling spammer, At first glance, it's so obvious you're just a sad loser. A no-life. LOL
fuarce62 8 months ago
@uglybitch49 Fastener's "on" narcissism--the ultimate drug. A drug especially favoured by right wing nut cases--which might explain their indifference to the public good. And in this case, we're talking about a Tory troll. Fastener may not even be a person. My oldest is sure he's a computer program, operating out of some right wing think tank, cranking out misinformation. Either way, whether he's a soft little Tory grinch or a computer program, he lies & lies & lies. He is profoundly dishonest.
mightymissk 8 months ago
@mightymissk I think it wil be a nice thing to see this Fastener guy die off. This guy doesn't have many years left, especially winessing his miserable life goals he shares with the world. He's just misery in action, and sadly the internet allows this kind of public display of ignorance. The age of multiculturalism is just starting and this guy is a speck of dust in the wind of this storm. He will be relegated more and more to this Youtube stupidity as his venting, and will be long forgotten.
fuarce62 8 months ago
@fuarce62 falsey demands that I die off because falsey knows with their weirdo left-wingnut ideas, they cannot out debate me!
Oh well falsey, maybe we should move you to the Children's Table of Debating....you are certainly out matched here.
Good idea?
mikefastener 8 months ago
@mikefastener Fastener, you are a repetitive moron. You repeat the same bullshit over and over and over, and NO ONE ever respects you or believes you. You are full of contradictions and gain no respect anywhere that I've seen you post. You're a frivolous piece of shit. Take the risk to say your crap in person, and you will face what people really think of trash like you. You spout pure propaganda, and propaganda in the hands of a weak fool alone in his room is a waste of life, and meaningless.
fuarce62 8 months ago
@fuarce62 Love it that Mr. Harper received a resounding majority. (In spite of left-wingnut lies from Iffy and Jack Laydown.)
I have lost count.....Chretien, Martin, Dion, Iffy....is this the fourth or fifth lie-beral leader Mr. Harper has thrown into the garbage can?
Let me know.
mikefastener 8 months ago
@mikefastener I'm still waiting for an answer. What decisions are you not happy about in regard to the Charter? Will you be happy when another party gets into power and then makes binding decisions about your rights and freedoms, based on a vote in Parliament?
fuarce62 8 months ago
@fuarce62 I'm also "still waiting for an answer"... since none of us can predict the future, please (for once) answer the question....why do you want unelected individuals making laws? (Supreme Court Justices.)
At least with MP's, I get a choice, agreed?
Let us see if we get an answer, folks.......
mikefastener 8 months ago
@mikefastener If you have a problem with extrapolating into the future, then extrapolate into the past, and tell me whether you would have preferred politicians under the Chretien and Martin govts to have the power to make judgments about your rights and freedoms? Still waiting. How many excuses do you have left?
fuarce62 8 months ago
@fuarce62 Please answer the very simple question....why do you want to be governed by unelected officials.
Why are you afraid of answering.
Third attempt...don`t disappoint.
mikefastener 8 months ago
@mikefastener Afraid of answering now, are you? What are you afraid of? It was a simple question. You keep repeating how the Charter is about wrongs and lack of freedom. What is that about? You afraid to tell us? What's so difficult about answering to your own statements?
fuarce62 8 months ago
@fuarce62 Yes, why will you not answer a very simple question. Why do you wish to be governed by unelected officials?
tick...tick...tick....we are waiting for an answer.....will you disappoint again?
tick....tick....tick....
mikefastener 8 months ago
@mikefastener You are a pussy, aren't you?? Totally afraid to answer a simple question. Afraid to let people know what is behind your rhetoric? You don't even have the guts to be who you actually are. I could have predicted that from the start, but you made it absolutely clear.
fuarce62 8 months ago
@fuarce62 Answer my question....fifth time!
mikefastener 8 months ago
The funny thing about these guys is that they think they are actually making an impact. This is the grand illusion of anonymity, and not knowing who you're talking to. The truth over time is that these guys impact on nothing at all, as most of the people they end up relating to are as self ensconced as them. They are too wimpy and slimy to say what they really feel in public. Someone like this would get humiliated and ridiculed for their stupidity in public. This is a wasted life.
fuarce62 8 months ago
@mightymissk Another funny thing about these guys is that the govt that they elect is constantly bringing in more and more monied ethnic asians and others to populate the country. They rant about non-white immigration, but at the same time are so incredibly oblivious to the fact that it is the govt they elected who is doing it. It is bigotry, combined with incredible ignorance and religious and political fanaticism. A chiling concoction, to put it lightly. Truth is a figment of the past.
fuarce62 8 months ago
@mightymissk I've read some of his posts. He's a total redneck christian right wing loner. Climate change is not an issue, and so forth. Funny part is he supports Diefenbaker here, who supported having a Bill of Rights, yet criticized Trudeau for EXACTLY the same thing. He has no idea what he stands for. A normal Cons stands for fiscal conservatism, yet he constantly excuses creating massive debt. These are just a few examples of his interest in ignorance over truth. Turd for brains...
fuarce62 8 months ago
@mightymissk Pooooor unmighty! I love it when the left-wingnuts come out to play! Too bad you are angry at my, "inconvenient truths".
Oh well, maybe you prefer Jack Laydown of the NDP (the Nude Democratic Party).
Hope I helped you here.
mikefastener 8 months ago
@mikefastener Hey UNFASTENEDBRAIN, What decisions made under the Charter of Rights and Freedoms to date, do you disagree with? You seem to have a problem with judges making decisions about rights and freedoms, rather than politicians. Explain which decisions you don't like.
fuarce62 8 months ago
@fuarce62 Oh my silly friend. The more important question for you is this...."do you have a problem with unaccountable judges making decisions and making new laws rather than elected politicians?"
A type of "Star Chamber" so to say.
(It may be time for you to run away as I am obviously out debating you and I am receiving e-mails from left wingers asking me to stop since you are looking so foolish!)
Again, floor is yours......................(don't disappoint)...............tick, tick, tick....
mikefastener 8 months ago
@uglybitch49 I blame Canadians for being deceived by the liberal party and trudeau. We are indeed lucky that Canadians now see the type of criminals these guys are and voted them into the garbage can on May 2nd.
That, I am sure, we can both agree on!
mikefastener 8 months ago
@uglybitch49 I do agree that Mr. Mulroney had a lot of mess to clean up after old fuddle duddle trudeau. trudeau's caring about the West was demonstrating in his crazy energy policies. (And how many liberal MP's are in Alberta today did you say?)
With trudeau-boy's flirting with murders and torturers (Castro) it is amazing that Canada had any international reputation left. Luckily we had Mr. Mulroney to rebuild Canada's place in the world.
Agreed?
mikefastener 8 months ago
@uglybitch49 "What the f___ am I on?"....no need to be on anything now. Canadians have tossed out the lie-beral party (along with its well known corruption and entitlements) and elected a strong leader in Mr. Harper. If any of us are high, it is the high of knowing we are now be governed by someone who understands us and cares about us. (Not lie-berals trying to steal our money.)
No wonder we are all so happy.
How about you?
mikefastener 8 months ago
@uglybitch49 "When trudeau left, we were better off"....I doubt any economist would agree with you!
Mr. Mulroney had a lot of mess to clean up from the trudeau years. Luckily we now have Mr. Harper (he is an economist you know).
mikefastener 8 months ago
@uglybitch49 I certainly agree that Mr. Mulroney had to turn the country around after the crazy years of lie-beral spending! Unfortunately, this took some funds; however, Mr. Mulroney made it very easy for the following lie-beral governments to balance the budget.
Yes, we all owe Mr. Mulroney our thanks for Canada's fiscal success.
mikefastener 8 months ago
@uglybitch49 Sad that your debating skills are limited to profanity! (Mine, as you have been "stung" many times by my wit, show you I am not!)
There is a new sheriff in town...Mr. Harper has removed that lie-beral corruption that made Canada the laughing stock of the world and replaced it with respect.
I'm sure we can both agree on that.
mikefastener 8 months ago
@uglybitch49 I agree with you! I see a general happiness on the streets of Toronto knowing we will soon have Mr. Ford, Mr. Hudak and Mr. Harper moving all of us forwards.
Thank you for confirming.
mikefastener 8 months ago
@uglybitch49 You are one hardcore left wing nut! (I know, a little redundant to say left wing and nut in the same sentence.)
You must agree that things are so good for much of Canada....Mr. Harper's roaring success on the federal scene, Mr. Ford's roaring success as Mayor of Toronto and the soon to be election of Mr Hudak as Premier of Ontario.
I can tell on the street how happy everyone is.
Hope I helped you here.
mikefastener 8 months ago
@uglybitch49 Yes, with an honest individual like Diefenbaker, I agree with you, we are his children.
mikefastener 8 months ago
@uglybitch49 Trudeau changed Canada for the worse. Therefore you cannot deny that we want nothing to do with his legacy and deny that we are his children. (Except that love child, of course.)
mikefastener 8 months ago
@uglybitch49 A Constitution that almost destroyed a country. A Charter of Wrongs and Lack of Freedoms that results in laws being made by unelected officials (judges).
Yes, I agree we would be better of without them and you are the hero worshiping extremist!
Glad I could educate you.
mikefastener 8 months ago
@uglybitch49 Many people are disgusted with Trudeau's love child.
What a hypocrite he was!
mikefastener 8 months ago
@uglybitch49 Considering that Trudeau had nothing compared to his electoral success (largest majority in Canadian history) then yes I do agree.
We are all children of Diefenbaker!
Makes all of us proud....surely you must agree.
mikefastener 8 months ago
@uglybitch49 I and most Canadian are not Trudeau's children! (Although I am aware that Trudeau had a little, "love child" that was exposed by the media. How disgusting and shameful.
Are you referring to that little......oooops?
Let me know.
mikefastener 8 months ago
@uglybitch49 Wow! Amazing that left-wingers with all their talk of diversity, always get so angry with anyone with a different point of view! Shows the hypocrisy of left-wingers....don't you think?
You can't debate with selective memory which you, "conveniently" like to employ in the memory of your, so called, hero Trudeau.
Bringing in a Constitution that almost destroyed the country and a Charter of Rights that gives judges the ability to make laws--yes, these made Canada worse.
I agree!
mikefastener 8 months ago
@uglybitch49 And his cousin!!!
Martylovescats 8 months ago
@uglybitch49 "worth something"? Yes, we should demonize Trudeau into his rightful place in Canadian history.
mikefastener 8 months ago
@uglybitch49 I agree Trudeau "single handly (sic) changed Canada"; but, for the worse.
mikefastener 8 months ago
@uglybitch49 Show some respect by not trivializing the disgusting facts against your hero..
Deal?
mikefastener 8 months ago
@uglybitch49 Interesting--so you admit you don't know what you are talking about! (Claim no knowledge of when it goes against your beliefs!)
Oh when, oh when will liberal supporters love Canada as much as they love themselves?
mikefastener 8 months ago
Thumb this up if you think mikefastener is a total waste of Youtube thread space...and a total waste of your time and energy to respond to. He has been labelled as a compulsive "master-baiter" and there doesn't seem to be any reason to refute that...
He is a self-proclaimed christian, and is masterbaiting with true devotion......
paulfornasier 8 months ago 9
@paulfornasier Please listen to pauly-boy. Remember, he once told me that he is very, "intellgent"!
pauly-boy, finish your paper route before posting!
mikefastener 8 months ago
@paulfornasier Thumbs up for sure, Fastener IS a waste of energy, but I worry that his lies may actually influence people. Good for you for fighting the fanatic. But I have one small interjection. Fastener is NOT a Christian. Neo-conservatives--all Tories in fact--are--by definition--ANTI-Christian. They hate the guts of poor people. They demonstrate their hatred by word & by deed at every opportunity. They actually USE the poor as vote-getting scapegoats. They hate the people Jesus loved.
mightymissk 8 months ago
@mightymissk His lies will never influence anyone. That's the sad part about his existence. This guy wil die, having lived a meaningless life, and with lots of crap on Youtube to show his legacy. His voluminous crap will be here for everyone to see, long after he's gone. If I was related to him, I would feel shameful as hell to see the evidence of what he spent his days and nights doing,The interesting part about the internet is that this frovolity and waste of life is now displayed for all.
fuarce62 8 months ago
@uglybitch49 Check the method of reducing the deficit by Martin and Chretien and get back to me.
mikefastener 8 months ago
@uglybitch49 Let us drop the Trudeau "hero" discussion. Whenever I point out the facts about Trudeau's disgusting record, you claim, "I wasn't born", "I don't know", "I don't care".
I sure we both agree that means that you don't know what you are talking about.
mikefastener 8 months ago
@uglybitch49 I guess you agree that Alberta got it right by not electing any liberals then?
mikefastener 8 months ago
@uglybitch49 Trudeau....who cares....its 2011.
Interesting you still want to nominate him as a hero!
mikefastener 8 months ago
@uglybitch49 Reform Party was created to be a western based group to fight the disgusting eastern bias of the liberal party.
mikefastener 8 months ago
@uglybitch49 Hmmmmmm....so the West was unhappy with Mr. Mulroney. Wow! Remind us all, how many liberal MP's in Alberta today?
(This is like shooting fish in a barrel!!!!)
mikefastener 8 months ago
@uglybitch49 Your viewpoint (bias as it is) is very selective. The money to erase the deficit came from taxpayers--not Chretien! Always remember that.
Love it that you were not alive for the NEP and therefore don't care; however, you do care enough to call Trudeau (falsely) a "hero". Your lack of consistency is shameful (like most lie-beral supporters).
mikefastener 8 months ago
@uglybitch49 You are confused. Chretien used Mr. Mulroney's GST revenues, the economic surge after Mr. Mulroney's FTA (both items Chretien vowed in the election to eliminate) and the stealing of much of the transfer payments to the provinces (which destroyed health care to this day). Chretien certainly has a lot to answer for.
mikefastener 8 months ago
@uglybitch49 I certainly agree Mr. Mulroney had a lot of mess to clean up after years of liberal spending. (interesting about the GST/FTA that Chretien vowed to destroy; but, kept them on. Mr. Mulroney certainly planted the flowers--Chretien harvested them. Mr. Mulroney is who we have to thank for Canada's fiscal stability.)
Trudeau's disgusting behaviour towards Western Canada ensures that he is no "hero" as you call him.
Can I help you on any other facts.....?
mikefastener 8 months ago
@uglybitch49 Please--no one does the "Patronage Pie" like liberals.
(Remember a little corruption scandal a few years ago?)
I really think this is "point-set-match" in comparing any party to disgusting patronage behaviour.
Agreed?
mikefastener 8 months ago
@uglybitch49 Mr. Mulroney's approval ratings are climbing--history and time are a good crucible for the truth. If you want to focus on international travel, ask Trudeau about his trips to Cuba fawning over that dictator, torturer Castro.
Yes, Trudeau certainly has a lot to answer for--too bad it is too late to demand he account for this shameful behaviour.
mikefastener 8 months ago
@uglybitch49 Mulroney was trying to undo the mess that Trudeau made in bringing in a constitution without the support of Quebec.
Trudeau is the one you should be talking about--not Mulroney.
mikefastener 8 months ago
@uglybitch49 "useful idiots" as Lenin called you folks!
mikefastener 8 months ago
@MrMikailus
Mulroney= "You sold us out Charlie Brown"
I'll never forget that.
And yeah he used to hate the monachy, then he sucked up to it...
Flip Flopper.
gundamWWW 8 months ago
@gundamWWW Mulroney=made Canada into an economic power
Chretien=Canada became a joke as countries around the world were disgusted with the lie-beral corruption
No comparison, right?
mikefastener 8 months ago
@mikefastener
I never said Chretien was a great guy.
They both sucked.
Lieing to the Canadian public, accepting money in suitcases from German armdealers.
gundamWWW 8 months ago
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@gundamWWW You know, I would prefer to accept an ex-PM (supposedly all these German payments occurred after Mulroney was PM) rather than the liberal party taking money from Canadian taxpayers.
Your thoughts?
mikefastener 8 months ago
@mikefastener
Our country has to come to deciding which political leaders transgression was less severe...
I prefer to hold them to the same standard. Dislike.
In 100 years it won't matter, we will be poorer for it.
gundamWWW 8 months ago
As much as I dislike Mulroney's policies and such, I always thought he had a cool voice. :)
koolaid28 9 months ago 2
@mikefastner bud that aggrement is so hard to get.out of our economy balences on it we would have to alter our country to better lean on another set of ways , terrible majority but not even 40.percent of peoples vots
MSkipper92 9 months ago
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@MrMikailus As opposed to that lier Chretien who said he would rip it up!
mikefastener 9 months ago
WHAT IS THE POINT OF HANGING A PAINTING IN FRONT OF A BOOKSHELF???
Conchobhar 10 months ago 5
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@Conchobhar likely a TV set (or other item) behind the picture that would reflect the camera lights.
mikefastener 8 months ago
Brian the man who walked through customs with his pockets full of 10s of 1000s of dollars. Why isn't he in jail?
VeryCanadianNews 10 months ago
@VeryCanadianNews Why isn't Brian in jail? Because the spot reserved for Chretien's corruption still hasn't been filled!
Easy question....easy answer.
mikefastener 9 months ago
...so was the name change of the former corporation GOVERNMENT OF CANADA, as is apparently now on all official government letter heads now reading THE HARPER GOVERNMENT a legal way to escape strict liability accountability ?
~as in corporate bankruptcy filling or Libyan War Reparations with the hesionization of our NATO peackeepers ?
=wounder which letter head was used to stand down our British Columbia Radiological monitoring system, 18 hours before Fukushma Radioactive Fallout rained down
docatomics 10 months ago