Jim Boeheim laughing at Jesse's dissing of John Thompson.

[OCUSA]

And again, to this point in his career, Melo's accomplishments are equal to or better than Zo's and Mutumbo's. Not so sure why that's so hard to understand. And since you're making Mutumbo a good offensive player based on one season, I'll take D.Coleman over Zo and Mutumbo. At his best, he was better than both of them. You better get consistent with how you apply your standards.

Funny how Zo gets a pass for his illness, but DC gets villified and joked about for his legit heart condition.

[TheGatorfan93]

The fact is,if mourning and mutombo were 27,in the league now?No G.m would take anthony over those 2 guys...NEVER! Scorers in the nba are a dime a dozen pal,mourning and mutombo are hof's...anthony is not,and his kind of player wont ever be.He's a high volume gunner...PERIOD.You have bing...i guess...and that's it YOU KEEP GOING ON AND ON,PATHETICALLY ARGUING WHAT IS ALREADY ESTABLISHED FACTS,THAT GEORGETOWN PRODUCES THE BETTER PLAYERS PERIOD Let it go dude,you look ridiculous.

[OCUSA]

@TheGatorfan93 if Zo and Mutumbo are HOF locks, so is Anthony, as long as he doesn't have a Penny Hardaway/Grant Hill type of injury induced fall off. Melo averages 3.1 assists for his career, which isn't bad for a guy whose JOB it is to score(because he's damn near the best in the league at it). He's averaging 7.6 rebounds per game, which is more than solid for a SF. 4 time all star, will certainly make at least 4-5 more.

You sound ridiculous. "Has he even made an all star team"? LOL

[TheGatorfan93]

You calling me out on comparing sleepy floyd to bing is legit.But you take the cake comparing a selfish one trick pony like anthony to 2 of the greatest nba centers ever!I watch the games,i see a guy who does nothing but take the easy way out and shoot jumpers cause he doesn't like contact.Face it,he reflects the nba today...soft as charmin.Or should i say he represents most syracuse players.

[OCUSA]

@TheGatorfan93 Mutumbo and Zo are NOT 2 of the greatest centers ever! Ewing, ok. Mutumbo was good. Zo was very good for awhile.

Melo shoots jumpers....and posts....and goes to the basket....and runs the floor....he's a solid passer for a forward. You're clueless. Soft? Check his FT attempts, and get a clue.

You want to talk about soft, talk about your new era Hoyas who flop more than Duke does, and produce 7'2 centers who play a finesse game like Hibbert. SOFT.

[TheGatorfan93]

@OCUSA I didn't say zo and dik were THE 2 best,but if you are 2 hof locks and you play center....what are they?Each,ONE of the greatest centers ever...got it? Good,Melo shoots jumpers?(95% of the time yes he does) the next 2 claims are hilarious,the 3rd is optional...runs hard on offense though eh?4th claim? solid passer?When does he pass?He's a black hole,and yes he's soft,he doesn't like contact...SOFT! And why bring up hibbert?Where's onuaku? etan thomas? lol you're a funny guy

[OCUSA]

Since 1990: Syracuse 27 Georgetown 14. WOW! Yeah, I guess if my team had been owned like that for 2 decades, I'd be going back to 1984 too.

[OCUSA]

First of all, Anthony has made FOUR all star teams. Second, the East was horrible that year the Sixers made the finals. Melo had the Nuggets in the Western Conference finals 2 years ago.  The difference is they had to beat the Lakers to get to the finals. The Sixers had to beat the Bucks. Not comparable at all.

You talk up Jeff Green....fine. He was really good. But Billy Owens was also BE player of the year and averaged 23 points, 12 rebounds, and 3.5 assists per game in 1991.

[TheGatorfan93]

So,in conclusion georgetown has one nba hall of famer,and 3 in the future mutombo,mourning and iverson.Syracuse has dave bing...and... well...that's all.So its safe to say georgetown has produced the greater players...agreed?Good,now on to teams.The 84 georgetown team is generally regarded as one of the top 5 all-time college teams,where does that 2003 syracuse team rate?See?Seriously,the only thing syracuse has is a better gym,that's it.

[OCUSA]

@TheGatorfan93 LOL at you counting Mutumbo, Mourning, and Iverson, but not mentioning Anthony. Anthony is already way better than Mutumbo and Mourning ever were. LOL at you going back to 1984!! Wow. If you named the top 20 teams between the 2 schools, Syracuse would have about 15 of them. It's hilarious that you're still arguing this, and the only things you have are "GTown produced an incredible team in 1984, and GTown produced some good pros 20 years ago". Cuse has killed them since.

[TheGatorfan93]

@OCUSA ''Anthony is already way better than mutombo and mourning ever were''

....LMAO!....ah..oh hahahaha lol!

''syracuse would have 15 of them''

The best syracuse teams(87.96,and 2003)are not even as good as hoya teams that didn't even make final fours!Keep em coming pal,you're a laugh riot!

[OCUSA]

@TheGatorfan93 First off, your final 4 makes absolutely no sense. If we're talking pure talent, the 1989 Cuse team that made the elite 8, with Douglas, Coleman, Owens, and Thompson is better than all but maybe 2 Georgetown teams ever.2nd, YOU tried to compare Sleepy Floyd with Hall of Famer Dave Bing. That was by far the stupidest comment in the whole exchance.Third, Syracuse 58 GTown 51. Syracuse now leads the series 28-14 since 1990. Again, it's not even CLOSE between the 2 programs.

[TheGatorfan93]

@OCUSA Stupidest comment would be you saying one of the most overrated players in the league,a poor mans dominique wilkens(ANTHONY),is better than mutombo and mourning,hilarious.The 89 syracuse team is better than all but 2 gtown teams?The 89 gtown team OWNED them!They're only win against them came without they're starting point guard.Kinda like today,you bragging about that win?!LMAO,WOW,let me catch my breath.How did it turn out when at full strength?Yeah...didn't think so.

[OCUSA]

@TheGatorfan93 Meanwhile you're talking up 85 GTown as the best ever.....when Cuse beat them that year. Does that mean Cuse OWNED them? Mutumbo made all NBA 3rd team twice and 2nd team once. Mourning made 1st team once(in a strike BS season) and 2nd team once. Melo has already made All NBA 3rd team 3 times, and 2nd team once. He's ALREADY made more All NBA teams than either Mourning or Mutumbo, and he's still in his prime.

28-14. Syracuse owns Georgetown. Not even close. Go back to '84

[OCUSA]

@TheGatorfan93 Name these non-final 4 making Hoya teams that were better than our 2003 NC team. I'll wait, so I can laugh.

Speaking of which, how many Cuse teams were better than GTown's 2007 final 4 team? Even our 2007 team beat them by almost 20 points.

[TheGatorfan93]

@OCUSA 1987,1989,and 96...gee that was easy.Your 2007 team never played at gtown,nice way to deflect that fact.Nba first teams?No son,you judge who's the better player,by how much he can do.Anthony is a gunner,plays no defense.The guy averages 30 shots a game!He's a one dimensional,one trick pony.You are really gonna compare anthony to mourning and mutombo?LOL No g.m in the WORLD would pick anthony over either of them,if they were in they're prime.Your hilarious pal

[OCUSA]

@TheGatorfan93 Wait, the 1996 Hoyas were better than the 2003 Cuse team? LOL! The same 96 Hoyas that got RUN out of the Dome by 20 points? And our 96 team was not as good as our 2003 team.

Nice, so you base your NBA evaluations on what you say and on what imaginary GM's would say, while I base them on FACTS.....All NBA teams are facts.

[TheGatorfan93]

@OCUSA Yeah,the same orange team run out of d.c by 20.You know you ''serious ooze'' fans aka syracuse fans have to realize,there ARE games outside of the dome.It's interesting,they've been doing it for years.FACTS?Like anthony being a high volume shooter,thus a good scorer...fine.But Mourning not only averaged 20 and 10 in his prime,but was also defensive player of the year twice.You see frenchie,there's the thing called DEFENSE.Hell mutombo on offense was far better than anthony's d.Ha next?

[OCUSA]

@TheGatorfan93 Syracuse has BY FAR the all time best road record in Big East play. Not even close. Don't try to tell me about games away from the Dome. We've been road warriors too for years.FACTS,like Anthony already earning as many or more accolades as Zo or Mutumbo before turning 27. When it's all said and done, it won't even be close.You didn't even know Melo had made an all star team, I highly doubt you watch him play much. You just spout what you read others say about his D.

[TheGatorfan93]

@OCUSA That's fine,then why not acknowledge gtown smoked them as well by 20?Because it weakens your arguement.And last i looked defense matters.When someone is more of a force offensively AND defensively...he's the better player.Its called being the better ''all around player''.Meaning mourning and mutombo were better all around players.What part of that do you not understand?Hell you could get a guy from the d-league,and if you gave him 30 shots like anthony?He would be known as a scorer to.

[OCUSA]

@TheGatorfan93 Just ridiculous. Anthony is one of the top 5 offensive players in the league, period. Not acknowledging/downplaying that is just dumb. Maybe you're bitter that he went 3-0 against your Hoyas.

And again, I doubt you've watched him play much to even know if he plays defense or not. Did you know he held Lebron to 1-4 shooting in the 4th quarter the other night? BTW, Mutumbo sucked on offense. "All around player" ...nope! His post moves were painful to watch.

[TheGatorfan93]

@OCUSA Yes,top 5 OFFENSIVE players,who cares,alot of people can score in the nba,doesn't mean your great .So you cherry pick ONE game to brag about anthony's defense?Also failing to realize james seems to always fold in the 4th.Want a cookie?And yes mutombo was an all around player,he averaged close to 20 points in his prime,painful but effective.Point being,mutombo at offense,is still better than lazy punk anthony at d.Comparing a game to a career,aint gonna fly mr.jackson.

[OCUSA]

@TheGatorfan93 Now you're just lying. Mutumbo averaged 16 points per game as a rookie.  He never averaged more than 13.8 again. LMAO at close to 20 ppg in his prime.....NOT EVEN CLOSE. Career scoring average of 9.8 points per game. Great shot blocker and rebounder, never much of an offensive player.

[TheGatorfan93]

@OCUSA Anthony is not a hof lock,he is like another denver player alex english,a scorer...that's it.And mutombo's 16 points in his rookie year PROVES he was an offensive force.Mutombo sacrificed for the team,something anthony would never do.He wants his 30 shots a game...and if they lose?Who cares.And you call me out for not caring whether this overrated punk made an all star team?Again,run down the best syracuse players in the nba and compare them to georgetown.Tick...tock...

[OCUSA]

@TheGatorfan93 Again....Melo is 26. If he keeps this up for another 6-7 years, which barring major injury he likely will, he'll be a HOF'er.

16 points per game in ONE season(out of like 15) makes someone an offensive force? Wow, you're so biased. He was average at best offensively, in his prime. Great shotblocker and rebounder, but mediocre offensively. gain, run down Georgetown's record against Syracuse. JB must be a genius if he can beat these "superior" players so often.

[TheGatorfan93]

Well,wingate played in the league longer than both seikly AND douglas. And who is thomas?Etan thomas?

[OCUSA]

@TheGatorfan93 Was Wingate better than Seikaly or Douglas though? Not even close. His best season was averaging 9 points, 2 rebounds, and 2 assists. LOL. Douglas best season he averaged 18.5 points and 8.5 assists. Seikaly's best season he averaged 17 points and 11.8 rebounds. It's not even close! And yes, Etan Thomas whose best season (8.9 points, 6.7 rebounds, 1.6 blocks) also tops anything Wingate did.

[TheGatorfan93]

Anthony?i RAISE YOU IVERSON Billy owens?I raise you jeff green.Derrick coleman?I raise you alonzo mourning.Dave bing?I raise you sleepy floyd.Hell,i haven't even mentioned ewing,williams and wingate lol

[OCUSA]

@TheGatorfan93 Anthony-Iverson....comparable so far. Anthony is in his prime, so this one won't be settled for awhile. Green-Owens is actually a good comparision. Similar players. Owens was a better college player though. Coleman-Mourning. Both were slowed by unfortunate ailments. Mourning a better pro, Coleman a better college player. Did you really compare Bing to Floyd? Wow.

You also didn't mention Seikaly, Douglas or Thomas. None are near Ewing, but Wingate? C'mon.

[TheGatorfan93]

@OCUSA Ok,i admit the floyd-bing comparison was out of line.But anthony-iverson comparable so far?Iverson led maybe the least talented teams to an nba finals,league mvp,scoring champ.Anthony hasn't even made an all star team has he?Wow?WOW INDEED! Green was also big east player of the year,and led that 2007 team to a final four.The rivalry didn't die out,the league added teams,so they played once a year a few years.Better players?Georgetown,better teams?georgetown AND OVER AND OVER ETC ETC

[TheGatorfan93]

Yes he does,but watching his dad outcoach boeheim with lesser talent was fun.

[OCUSA]

@TheGatorfan93 Lesser talent like Ewing, Mourning, Mutumbo, and Iverson? That's 4 top 5 picks. Boeheim had 2 in that era, in Coleman and Owens.

[TheGatorfan93]

@TheGatorfan93 They had lesser talent in 1987,reggie williams and a bunch of average mediocre players.Syracuse went to the national championship game,and lost all 3 games against georgetown.Next year 88,even lesser talent...2-0 against syracuse.And in regards to mourning and mutombo,they were surrounded with guards and forwards,who couldn't make an average high school team.They couldn't shoot,and that's why 2 future hof centers couldn't even get them to a sweet sixteen.

[OCUSA]

@TheGatorfan93 I noticed that you stopped in 1988. How did Thompson do against Boeheim from 1989 until the end of his career? Not so good, huh?

[TheGatorfan93]

@OCUSA I just pointed out why,when they had mourning and mutombo,they also had guys like joey brown,irvin church and brian kelly.Thompson became even more disenchanted with recruiting,so he just took players that wanted to go there to begin with.Mourning was a ewing fan,mutombo was a project,and iverson was suggested to thompson by his mom.Had thompson cared about recruiting after ewing left,he would have had more titles.

[OCUSA]

@TheGatorfan93 So basically Thompson became LAZY? Nice characteristic for a coach. Lots of excuses. Boeheim kicked Thompson's ass for the last decade of his career, and Boeheim is still going strong. Now he's kicking Thompson's son's ass. Jimmy B WON.

[TheGatorfan93]

@OCUSA I didn't say it was a great characteristic,but its what happened.The proof is in the recruiting classes post ewing.And regardless of John thompson jr's final 10 years,he still OWNED boeheim.Boeheim beat him in one game, with anything on the line in 20 years,the 1992 big east final.Southerncanada university also known as syracuse university under boeheim has also produced some of the biggest,softest nba busts ever.You really wanna compare the 2 teams legacies?lol

[OCUSA]

@TheGatorfan93 Yes, I do want to compare legacies, because it's not CLOSE. Syracuse may not have a dominant run like GTown had in the early 80's....but SU has been the far better, more consistent program. GTown sucked for a good 10 years from 97-06. Just awful. They missed the NCAA's more times in that stretch than SU has in Boeheim's entire career. Syracuse has owned Georgetown in every way imaginable for the last 20 years. Not even close. Keep dreaming of the early 80's though. LOL.

[OCUSA]

@TheGatorfan93 I guess nothing was on the line when SU beat GTown to win the Big East regular season title in 1990, while Thompson got himself thrown out? Thanks Coach.

[TheGatorfan93]

@OCUSA Yeah,he beat esherick,not thompson.Gtown was in control.But hey in 2002 esherick had the court named after him.Better all-time teams?gtown 1984 and 85..NO syracuse teams comes close to those teams.Better nba players?Gtown..not even close.In 2001 gtown went to the sweet sixteen,and the following year,were victimized in one of the biggest ncaa tournament snubs ever.Just awful?lol

[OCUSA]

@TheGatorfan93 He beat Esherick? Yes.....and he also beat Thompson throughout the 90's.  Fact. Accept it. GTown hasn't been in control for 25 years. Get over it!!! Cuse has beaten them about 2/3's of the time in the last 20 years. In fact, it got so one sided for awhile that the rivalry was starting to die out, because GTown wasn't doing there part and beating them meant nothing.

Better head to head record? Syracuse. Better Big East record? Syracuse. Better overall program? Cuse.

[mperry1012]

i dont think people realize how impossible it is to get boehiem to smile

[Orange52350]

That was a verbal thrashing of john thompson

[EarleYetter]

Really stupid.

[YakuzaRich]

Greatest video ever made.

[dmoo222]

Wow the Jim Boeheim smile, it is rarely captured

[haloandshithead]

Don't forget the good ol' nose rub.

[cbabi94]

who's john thompson?

[amell41]

georgetown coach

[SURocks03]

@cbabi94 GTOWN COACH

[willlliw]

was that at a b-ball game?

[mikeyd2315]

no it was a football game

[Aeoxins]

Haha, theres SU students for you. Exactly why I want to go there.

[SamQuentin]

LOL

[robertmaruca]

Yes, in that he sucked the life out of Manley Field House

[scatman44]

He sure does! :)