Its odd that Jarrah a kid from Australia or New Z.Could have so much attention and anger come his way.My only question is why has NO other country gone to the MOON?Please tell me i am serious i really want to know.That wire shit is ridicules trying to judge anything based on old footage is difficult if not impossible.I really dont know why it will be 2020 before we can go back to the moon.Jarrah is clever and has raised questions that have really pissed people off.Why so angry at him?
The example I always think of is "Mary Poppins" (1964) We see the character close up in a well-lit shot completely suspended and no wires are visible.
@moonhoaxlunatic1 that's because "most hoax nuts" are 90 plus percent of the united states & the world, looks like your on your own Mr Brant, you & your "P" brained friends.
Stop the press. Phobos-Grunt (Soil) spacecraft failed to leave Earth orbit after it was launched last month, the flight to test organisms in "deep space" for "greater than 3 days" (Apollo 12 days) is over, it's engines failed to push it off to mars. Could have this been deliberate? Interesting.
@WhiteJarrah You desperately need an eye exam! At 04:05 you make the absurd claim that "they both have the same crazy movements of the arms"!?! Look again: Young's arm moves like he's the size of an insect, Savages arm moves like - an arm. You Debunk yourself. It's as plain as can be.
Wow. That 1960 movie looked just like the Moon walks! Jarrah White, you're so smart, and brilliant, and nice, and fuzzy, and cute, and sexy, and you're so smart and scientific too! You're sure to get laid now! :-)
You've definitely proven that man never set foot on the Moon! It's a done deal. You're going to go down in history as the brilliant young virgin scientist that debunked the NASA hoax and everything! Gee, Jarrah, you're my hero!
Your work is done. You can take your OCD medicine now.
@dan91709 funny how you relate being a "hoax nut" with your own fantasy of "getting laid",??? (not sure where this comes from??? ) sounds like your own cognitive bias to me... & it sounds like you don't get much yourself ?.. need I say more?
Erasing 5 seconds of wires in a silly, fake-looking 50s film versus erasing wires for approximately 300,000 seconds of Apollo EVA footage in the 60s for 2 astronauts, rovers, objects & even dust in a yet-to-be identified mega-studio--Oh please! That's retouching approximately 9-million frames without digital technology! When did NASA get time to build 15 Saturn Vs, the VAB building, launch complexes, etc? You guys really believe this?
1st of all, there's no standard conspiracy claim on this. Some claim wires, some claim slow mo & some claim both. Savage's jump is ONLY a vertical, w/o a pressurized suit. His horizontal bouncing & walking looks totally unconvincing. NO ONE has ever duplicated anything close to Apollo EVA vids--not HBO, not Mythbusters, not Kubrick. NO ONE. Should be possible if it was all faked in the 1st place, right?
Besides, this doesn't explain falling dust and objects which could not possibly be on wires.
20 years later than destination moon... with nasas billions of dollars in mind, shane killian still dont believe they could hide a wire? LOL! this video proves that they could do it 20 years earlier with a budget who was probalry 1/1000 000 of nasas
@un4g1v3n1 It's amazing how you got a picture of the Sun 20º to the South of the Zodiac towards 'Crux'. Or maybe that as the light on the elbow of the Shuttle's arm.
Please don't take that video down, it's the source for so much amusement.
@moonhoaxlunatic1 Maybe look a yourself?, your the one filling up the page 3 times in response to my overwhelming landslide mathematical & precise comment.;)
@moonhoaxlunatic1 lets see between your 2 posts (as you thought about mathematics), the above calculation took you 4 hours to figure out and is biased because this number reflects 97.2% of most you tube accounts as MOST people couldn't be bothered voting. Ok with this in mind let look at some real data, 25.9% dislikes on this video vs 41.3 % on the previous either way still in a winning position & in fact an increase in approval ratings of 15.4%. hate to break the REAL news.
pretty close? savage's jump looks odd as hell, as if it is shed up. oh and there those dust particle to got to make do the same jump.....what did they place wires on each speck of dust? do you got anything of substance or is it just anomaly hunting
@moonhoaxlunatic1 Yes I agree NASA have many paid shills & all i can see is 77 thumbs up telling us that JW has hit the jack pot with this video. Many shills will be in tears, about time.
Totally agree Jarrah~! They CAN, and have, been able to hide wires, my first Disney on ice( I think it was on ice, can't remember) back in the mid 80's was amazing, because they DID use wires to float the actors and you literately could NOT see the wires even when the lights were on them .. they hid them in the costumes.
Wow @ 2:16 "The reason I didn't buy this experiment..." and to add insult to injury you continue with..."because it is based upon a misrepresentation of the conspiracy theory."
What happened to data and predictions? Oh that is right data and prediction continue to prove the failed Apollo hoax time and time again.
But hey we know that you ignore what doesn't fit the paradigm of your grandfathers failed legacy!
"Wires played a crucial role for the Apollo program, lifting the actors across the night sky at area 51. A true sensation and innate feel of 1/6 coupled with slowed down video, only Kubrick himself could make this happen", this with the development of scotchlite technology in film by 2001 a space odyssey in 1968 Apollo couldn't make a mistake, and they didn't.
@NASAvsPETE1 .... pete this is "tweakerhead" cloning my account with the pt1Tard instead of pt1Gard, he has used 3 diff clones of my name now, shows how desperate he and nasa shills are, its amusing .... you should see the filth he posted on my channel ... uses C word dozens of times .... hope all is well :)
@pt1gard yeh don't worry I picked up on that straight away, desperation is at hand it seems, these nasty people are trying to hold back the truth, no doubt working for a the CiA.
@NASAvsPETE1 You wouldn't know the truth if it fucked you in the ass.
You gonna tell us how they used scotchlite to fake the moon landings or what Mr Hollywood Special FX Wizard? You keep going on about it like you know so much. Don't be shy, go make a video about how they did it. Describe the mechanism so we can all see.
@moonhoaxlunatic1 ... how fucking stupid RU? cia began nasa, yes or no? if 2 guys plan to hold up a 7/11 do they conspire? lmfao, nurse nayirah? did i mention bigfoot, doofus? ... you are too stupid to discern hoax from conspiracy, did babs olson make those cell phone calls, yes or no? did lavon affair happen? operation northwoods? did jopa help coverup sandusky? did amazing randi proposition teen boys on the phone? UR baked, I win, you look like an idiot shill :)
@moonhoaxlunatic1 ... lmfao, i guess footprints are all over the joint and no tire tracks under behind or in front of the LR in many pics, duh, wanna help us here, shilly?
@Changis158711 ... sure some of them prob did, but would they all just vanish? and no smudges etc ... also no one can explain the no TRACKS under the LR in many pics ... in one pic there are only 2 non smudged bootprints and yet NOT ONE SIGN OF TRACKS UNDER the LR .... any theories how that could happen ... no pro apollo people will ever answer that, I would appreciate your thoughts ... google this: as-17-140-21354 HR and then click images and click on first pic and enlarge it, get back to me
@pt1gard they could have carried it there? /watch?v=fNhpYxgGjKA
notice near the end how they carry it closer to the camera before putting the seats up? it would only weigh about 35kg/75-80 lbs in 1/6th gravity anyway...
@Changis158711 ... ive heard the carry thing before, where are pics of it, would be amusing to see in those bulky suits ... where on earth do people carry things when they could drive it and why would they? this is a very lame concept, but i appreciate your thoughts
@pt1gard did you watch the video link i provided? or i found the video (not just timelapse) of it here: watch?v=-ShauSWcTC4 towards the end (right after 10:00 ) you clearly see the astronauts picking the rover up, so not such a lame concept after all if they actually could carry it where they wanted more or less effortlessly. as I said previously, it would only weigh 35kg/75-80lbs in 1/6th gravity so carrying it around would not be a problem for 2 astronauts.
@Changis158711 ... the lame part like i said is why would they carry it about and where is the film of this ever happening away from the LM? obviously you believe the nasa story and I dont, I used to until i looked into ALL the facts and pictures and films etc ... i have written a book, its done, and will go to press soon ... there will be much evidence and even things never released before ... did you know NASA lost tons fo things, blueprints, tapes etc from the apollo missions? weird, eh?
@pt1gard please dont assume what i believe or not, my point was they could easily carry the rover if they wanted to, therefore it is not impossible nor improbable that they could have carried the LR and placed it infront of the LM. atleast across the distance shown between the LR and LM in as-17-140-21354...
@Changis158711 ... ok sorry for "assuming" ... i will ask straight up, do you think apollo was 100% real, did the 12 nuats walk on the moon, etc .... what exactly do you believe since you are reluctant to share?
@pt1gard i am not reluctant to share anything. i am not on any "side". the moonlanding are more or less impossible to prove without actually going there and doing thorough research on it, so I try to get as much information as possible, from both sides. it is not a black and white answer. but i ask questions when someone states a "fact" based on their findings, as they are assumptions/speculations since you cannot be 100% sure that it did or didnt happen. that doesnt mean theyre wrong or right..
@moonhoaxlunatic1 so.. you cant spell "Planetary Society"?, this isn't an English Lesson, when I have some free time ill give you a lesson? ok ? wink wink? nudge nudge?
@pt1gard In lunar gravity, the LR was light enough to be carried by the astronauts. Quite often, instead of executing 3 point turns, they just got out, picked the LR up and turned the it around by hand - hence the apparent "absence" of track marks in some pictures.
Not that I expect you to believe me for a second...
@NASAvsPETE1 your point being? anyone who has 37$ (or 25$ if your a student) (40/30$ canada - 57/43$ international) can become a member of the planetary society for a whole year.. so i cannot see you being a member having anything to do with this matter (other than that it is space related) Also, The planetary society aknowleges the apollo missions as legitimate. Quote: "It (The moon) is the only place in the solar system other than Earth walked upon by humans." so why support them at all?
@Changis158711 my point being you are not, & naming the price of their subscription is meaningless, that's like saying "im not a member because I cant afford it nor bother to have an interest in science", Your comment,"other than that it is space related", this is the point, they keep up to date on new topics, new questions have evolved on the validity of Apollo with USSR Phobos Mars deep space flights testing bacteria, eukaryota and archaea.
@NASAvsPETE1 how do you know I'm not a member? your basing your "facts" on your assumptions. my point was that paying a subscription for something does not make you any more credible on the matter, yet you present your membership as if it is a certificate that you know what you are talking about. Since I have a subscription for a science magazine (covering space, biology, archaeology etc.) that comes out in my country, does that mean that i'm a scientist?
@nasavspete1 and again, how can you trust the planetary society to provide you with facts if they still believe that the moon landing happened? if you search for "Apollo" you'll quickly see that they clearly believe that we landed on the moon like NASA explained. isn't this a conflict of interest?
@NASAvsPETE1 so does smoking, drinking and eating unhealthy foods.. but it is related to the amount taken in. have you ever been to the dentist or hospital for an x-ray? you use radiation when microwaving your food, your cellphone has radiation, a piece of paper has some radiation, infact, the human body itself has measurable radiation.. the real question is what kind of radiation, how intense the radiation was, and how long the exposure was...
@Changis158711 Well im a member of the planetary society, I aquire their magazine every month, on page 10 there is an article on living organisms on board russia's phobos, it states "for the first time organisms will be tested for survivability outside earths protective magnetosphere for more than just a few days" hmm, how long was the longest Apollo mission? 12 days? Apollo 17, and on board phobos they only have bacteria, eukaryota and archaea. go figure? Wires.
@NASAvsPETE1 1) and they use bacteria that are known for their extreme survival capacaties.. here are some exerpts from planataryDOTorg: "..bacteria, which had survived and even thrived in the hostile clean room environment", "Another bacteria selected for the long journey to Mars thanks to its remarkable capacity for survival is called "Deinococcus radiodurans," which is Latin for "terrifying berry that survives radiation."" Continued
@NASAvsPETE1 2) "Two distinct species of B. subtilis will fly in the LIFE canister, one designated "168," the other "MW01." Both are radiation resistant." and also, why would you believe a magazine that believes we landed on the moon and use data collected from apollo missions as references? Quote: "Apollo 11, 12, and 15, and Luna 16 and 24, sampled lunar maria."
@Changis158711 yes well the very point is, why don't they send A species similar to the human form? like a monkey for instance?, this wouldn't be difficult & would replicate conditions in an ideal environment, the more articles that come along on missions to Mars, the more questions appear on the validity of Apollo, for most people interested in science this is disturbing.
@NASAvsPETE1 1) well, a trip to mars is about 33-37 times longer than the 12 days mission.. but i digress, the reason for the experiment is not to see if humans could survive the trip to or from mars, from the site: "LIFE (Living Interplanetary Flight Experiment) will test one aspect of transpermia, the hypothesis that life could survive space travel, if protected inside rocks blasted by impact off one planet to land on another" continued
@nasavspete1 2) and sending a monkey that ways a couple of kilos would be far more expensive than sending bacteria.. (we have to leave earths gravity, and every extra weight has to be accounted for and have the nessacary propulsion to get it out of our atmosphere) it is easy to say things like "we should send a monkey" but the fact that you would need a much bigger rocket and that the price would be much higher still remains, but is rarely considered in these discussions..
@Changis158711 Well there you go sending a monkey is too expensive, need I say more, interesting that they want to test whether specific life forms that are already resistant to many variant levels of radiation (inside a meteoroid) will survive A mars trip,"longer than 3 days" (stated by the planterary report), this is a clear indication we wont be going anywhere outside our protective magnetosphere any day soon. Wonder why>? radiation.
@NASAvsPETE1 its 3 YEARS not days, and has nothing to do with any manned mission to mars.. this is to see if BACTERIA (not humans) from another planet could survive the trip. and it is not a clear indication, you jump to conclusions, like many of the claims i have seen on this subject (from both sides). and again, "radiation" is a collective term, there are many kinds of radiation, some more lethal than others.. as said before, even a human has radiation, so why dont i have radiation sickness?
@Changis158711 "its 3 YEARS not days", no you don't have the article, its on page 10 written by Bruce Betts, your taking it out of context, the article is on organisms travelling into deep space "outside earths protective magnetosphere for longer than 3 days", & yes it has everything to do with manned missions, the last 520 day test (on earth) for conditions to travel to mars inside a capsule didn't include radiation at all, why didn't they? would you like to sit inside a microwave?
@NASAvsPETE1 well, i thought it was the same project as explained here: planetary org/programs/projects/innovative_technologies/life/ but why would they use radiation when they are testing the human psyche of living 1,5-2 years in a confined area with the same people? you want them to test everything at the same time. and i would think that mankind has a fairly good understanding about radiation and its efects on humans already, so why test for something that is known?
@Changis158711 "why test something that is already known?", I rest my case, they are testing life forms in deep space for greater than a few days, because they have no previous tests for this.
@NASAvsPETE1 ***Yaaawwwnnn*** Anyone who spares a nanosecond to read your drivel, will soon realise that you're way too immature to engage in adult conversation.
Every time you and your pals make a post; hoax believers look a little more stupid, the conspiracy becomes a bit less credible and Jarrah looks like he's surrounded by fools.
Or is that the aim of your Black Ops mission: Destroy the AHC by making hoax believers look like complete morons?
@animefan2k9 No the Moon doesn't produce deadly levels of X-rays.It has a higher gamma flux than the Sun,why?
Sun produces very little gamma ray radiation.
The Moon has secondary bombardment and Bremsstrahlung, but the flow rate is very low...hardly detectable.
As far as your assertion of the S.A. mag'.
That was 1958.
Are you adhering to the data of 1958 rather than the data that so many corporations & countries rely on to keep their multimillion dollar satellites up and running.
@jhu776 They probably can't be bothered with insignificant small fry like you. Maybe they'll send around a couple of rookie cops, they know an Internet Tough Guy when they see one :p
Or maybe they'll just wait and see if you dare make good your threats - and then use your example as an excuse to further reduce the rights of your countrymen, thus making you a part of their plan.
@moonhoaxlunatic1 " losinig" what?... 1958 have everything its its box and dice. RADIATION, is what stopped them LET-GO-OF-YOUR-BAD-BELIEFS, become free.... it isn't hard.
@stalkervision Could you please just elucidate one thought coming from the crowded theater of your mind that someone just yelled 'FIRE" from the 10th row ?
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Would you like to have a discussion about the environment of space, which incidentally I have a degree in ?
Interesting that you hoax-believers cling to the 1958 assessment of the VA belts. So many countries and corporations have many expensive satellites in orbit and from that there's ample data related to the Van Allen's.
There's no mystery with the Van Allen radiation belts..
@stalkervision I'm sure you've read this before: "The recent Fox TV show, which I saw, is an ingenious and entertaining assemblage of nonsense. The claim that radiation exposure during the Apollo missions would have been fatal to the astronauts is only one example of such nonsense." -- Dr. James Van Allen
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Interesting that you're so obtuse that you can't recognize my appreciation for facts related to astrophysics.
@stalkervision I did look at the trajectory of Apollo 11, obviously you haven't.
Allen Bean was a bad-ass pilot in his day, a pilot.He didn't have anything to do with the trajectory or anything astrophysical as far as the engineering of Apollo, Bean was the navigator, his job was to navigate the set course, nice try but you fail.
The trajectory for Apollo11 flew thru' omnidirectional flux protons of 100MeV / 10³particles/cm²-sec.
@moonhoaxlunatic1 I said if there is a reason to be skeptical then being skeptical is advised. One reason to be skeptical with the moon landings is that we've never gone back. The technology should make it easier if we actually went. Another reason is the radiation problem of being in space. It's deadly up there and a huge amount of shielding is needed. They had a small amount of shielding.
@howitzer24 1centimeter of lead OR 18g/cm² of water to attenuate gamma rad' by %50.
2.7g/cm² water =1.0g/cm² AL.
Apollo's 7-8g/cm² AL. density rating was equivalent to over 20g/cm² of water.
2g over halving thickness
The trajectory for Apollo11 flew thru' omnidirectional flux protons of 100MeV / 10³particles/cm²-sec. That was sufficiently attenuated by the hull of the CM of 8g/cm².
@krisdevalle "Still doesn not account for many sequences where the astronauts move past and around each other without the wires becoming tangled.What is the nature of this magical rig that can handle two astronauts at once mixing their tracks? Explain please."
He can't explain. Nobody can. The simple answer? They weren't on wires, they were in Lunar gravity... You'll never get an explanation like that from Jarrah.
@NASAvsPETE1 "Hmm, "crossing a bridge" another futile cherry picked metaphor, what if that "bridge" had plastic explosive implanted in its foundations?"
What a psycho you are. Has anyone ever tried to examine you for signs of paranoid schizophrenia?
@yesiamalittlejonny. And with that comment I suppose you think I'm going to say something like " heeeeeeeres johnny !" we'll think again, maybe it you that's paranoid little johnny, probably too many episodes of the shining I'd say;)
@NASAvsPETE1 Building a bridge with plastic explosive in the foundations? How and why on Earth would anyone ever do that?
Your sub-James Bond, fantasy scenario shows the fragility of the straws, at which the average AHC believer so desparately clutches and is yet another, timely example, of the kind of perverse "logic" they embrace.
Maybe you should stay indoors and never leave your mom's basement again - what if you go out and the sky falls on your head LOL
@GlowWorm1962 Sub James bond? don't talk to me about paranoia, why do more than half the United States have a Fire Arm in their house & a nuclear bunker in their basement ? need I say more Merci :)
@moonhoaxlunatic1 Yes I may if what he says is a bad choice of actions. If the surgeon says that cutting through an artery is the right thing because the patient should bleed a lot I'd try to stop him. He could be drunk or on drugs. Who knows? See how this works now? One's own sense of right and wrong trumps everything else.
in a court of law in the united states you must place your hand on the bible & swear you will tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, Armstrong wouldn't do this, not even on public television... strange no doubt,
@jhu776 Nice. Because I'm having you reported. My "contact" in the government will hopefully supply me with a number to the FBI. I've asked said person.
Fuck off was not coined in the 1920s. Stop threatening to be a terrorist and going on shooting rampages. I know someone working in the US Secret Services with high security clearance, and I can also have you easily reported to the FBI. It's unfortunate, because you're not getting any warnings. I'm reporting you today, whether you want me to or not. I've even taken screen shots of your comments.
@jhu776 It's an ancient Anglo-Saxon expression, the origins of which are lost in the mists of time.
It means: "Go away. Quickly and immediately. Do not bother me again on this matter, for you are nothing to me and I consider your opinions on the subject to be worthless."
It is sometimes expressed as a hand / finger gesture, e.g. ..l., (international) or ..\/, (UK).
@moonhoaxlunatic1 An interesting conjecture. Could there be an element of social manipulation behind the Apollo Hoax Conspiracy - as there has been with the UFO phenomenon?
Where does Jarrah get his money? He doesn't appear to have a job, but is somehow able to pay for trips abroad, simulated lunar regolith, special edition box sets, video gear etc. and can somehow afford to spend every waking hour making videos.
@GlowWorm1962 :Could there be an element of social manipulation behind the Apollo Hoax Conspiracy - as there has been with the UFO phenomenon?" this is typical to mix up a ridiculous concept such as a "UFO conspiracy" with a very real possibility of a human constructed hoax, don't attempt to confuse the two, the latter is utterly outlandish and deemed to be with any "reasonable man" in any global court jurisdiction.
Ill be willing to donate to Jarrah, this work is pretty important if we are going to set up a class action against NASA. There are too many gaps in the current visual record, I consider this research crucial for the truth. Merci!
@jhu776 Really? You sent Jarrah money and e-mails? How long have you been following Jarrah's illustrious career? Presumably longer than the day your account has been in existence.
@moonhoaxlunatic1 So you're acknowledging you let other people dictate what you will believe in. You're unable to look at the evidence with an open mind and draw your OWN conclusions. Draw. Your. Own. Conclusions. You have vast intelligence inside of you.
Well I have to say you really really made Shane Killian look like a complete imbecile, this video goes down in the hall of debunk fame and done in pure style like jw always has, hats off Monsier ! From France !
@WhiteJarrah Once again you debunk yourself. LOOK closely, beginning at 3:57: Notice that when the men hit the ground, Young's arm quivers like it's made of jello, while Savage's arm is shaken in a much slower, more normal manner. Apollo clips of men working on the lunar surface show this effect, UNLESS CHERRY PICKED. The movements of the men acquire absurd munchkin-like characteristics when the speed is increased to make them resemble footage shot on earth.
The fact that you hoaxers align your belief system with the Flat Earth Society which were the first to allege the landings were a hoax and Kubrick directed it, really makes me wonder.
What's the motivation here, is it to enlighten the world or just make yourselves feel smarter than everyone else, after all I have never had a civil discussion with any hoax-believer, it always ends up with childish banal insults, every time.
@Chev4206 The Flat Earth Society are big proponents of the hoaxed moon landings theory. Just check out their forums... I thought it was established that you're too stupid to be allowed to comment??
@Chev4206 They were the first to allege the landings were a hoax numb-skull.
You have nothing to contribute to any discussion, I thought it was established that you can only read and not type any more posts.
The world doesn't need people like you breading or propagating, please do not copulate with anyone, kill yourself as soon as you have the guts, or just keep sniffing glue & paint thinner.
You're such a fucking idiot, Pete1. Just go home and die so you'll stop bugging everyone with your stupidity. Oh, and come up with an original username, twerp.
@smogmontser The jet test itself doesn't debunk any wire concepts with slowed down video, in this example we are isolating the jump test, there are many ways of testing 1/6.
I dropped a small lump of polystyrene together with a hammer. Guess what?The hammer landed first because its heavier. What the fuck has 1/6th gravity to do with anything? The hammer is still heavier!!!
@Chev4206 That post shows how amazingly stupid you are. It doesn't matter what weighs more, all objects will fall at the same acceleration, unless one object is slowed by friction from air resistance.
You're an utter fool and you just proved it, have a nice day ass-hole ;-)
It has NOTHING to do with the gravity. It's because they're in a vacuum!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
The only reason a light object falls slower is because of air resistance. Do you really think that if that was an obvious anomaly, nobody would have already called NASA on it.
Oh... my...fucking...god... You have lost ALL merit on youtube. Seriously. You're not allowed to comment anymore, dumbass.
@moonhoaxlunatic1 so all of these "scientists and credentialed" people were actually on the moon?
id think again, evidence? lets start with Jarrahs perfect debunk of myth busters ridiculous & hopeless attempts to show 1/6 gravity, & they call themselves professionals? you have to be kidding me?
it is very clear Jamies jump with wires is exactly the same as the (apparent) moon jump. We all knew Myth Busters attempts would be paid off, Jarrah has proven this with undisputed Genius!
@smogmontser you do realize that myth busters were paid a very large amount of money to debunk the moon hoax? they also admitted that "they could make anything look as good as you wanted or as bad as you wanted" (for the right price) being visual experts themselves. A quote from Jamie himself.
@stalkervision yes this is a very important point, with the concerns of random flares, Van Allen, (not to forget killing astronauts with failed landings) robotics were well established during the 60's and a very sensible plausible option even recommended by Van Allen himself.
@moonhoaxlunat What did the soviets really track? could the Lems have been unmanned? 16mm film tells me this could be the case, there is no 16mm film inside the lem on approach or take off, only from the outside, which indicates that each landing could have been unmanned, heavy rovers with robotic arms could easily pick up moon rock, if radiation was the issue... The LRO has taken Very close images of craters at the A15 sight yet no images of a Lem or rover, which would be at point blank view.
@moonhoaxlunatic1 So lets talk about "credentialed people" & peer review in real terms, how can these people know that that the LRO images are real?, this is where it comes down to. A government can give us information, yes they can provide us with distant images in 2009, but lower the LRO & say hey here are some new images I have, what make you thin they are real? because your peers say so? is it a mere trick founded by marketing that says, convince & ye shall be convinced? Qs without As.
i have reason to believe.......
haydenmossop 4 days ago
Its odd that Jarrah a kid from Australia or New Z.Could have so much attention and anger come his way.My only question is why has NO other country gone to the MOON?Please tell me i am serious i really want to know.That wire shit is ridicules trying to judge anything based on old footage is difficult if not impossible.I really dont know why it will be 2020 before we can go back to the moon.Jarrah is clever and has raised questions that have really pissed people off.Why so angry at him?
jasrogg 2 weeks ago
Excellent work destroying the nasa claims. You are doing the world a great service by exposing the lies of TPTB! Much Respect!
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Blahblobify 1 month ago
The example I always think of is "Mary Poppins" (1964) We see the character close up in a well-lit shot completely suspended and no wires are visible.
benthejrporter 1 month ago
Holy fuckin cow !!! at 5:42 it looks exactly like the NASA films...EXACTLY!!
Shit this guy is a genius. OMG!!! OMG!!!!!
staIkervisions 2 months ago
@dan91709 Hehe truth hurts ha?
NASAvsPETE1 2 months ago
@moonhoaxlunatic1 that's because "most hoax nuts" are 90 plus percent of the united states & the world, looks like your on your own Mr Brant, you & your "P" brained friends.
NASAvsPETE1 2 months ago
Stop the press. Phobos-Grunt (Soil) spacecraft failed to leave Earth orbit after it was launched last month, the flight to test organisms in "deep space" for "greater than 3 days" (Apollo 12 days) is over, it's engines failed to push it off to mars. Could have this been deliberate? Interesting.
NASAvsPETE1 2 months ago
@WhiteJarrah You desperately need an eye exam! At 04:05 you make the absurd claim that "they both have the same crazy movements of the arms"!?! Look again: Young's arm moves like he's the size of an insect, Savages arm moves like - an arm. You Debunk yourself. It's as plain as can be.
occhamite 3 months ago
Wow. That 1960 movie looked just like the Moon walks! Jarrah White, you're so smart, and brilliant, and nice, and fuzzy, and cute, and sexy, and you're so smart and scientific too! You're sure to get laid now! :-)
You've definitely proven that man never set foot on the Moon! It's a done deal. You're going to go down in history as the brilliant young virgin scientist that debunked the NASA hoax and everything! Gee, Jarrah, you're my hero!
Your work is done. You can take your OCD medicine now.
dan91709 3 months ago
@dan91709 funny how you relate being a "hoax nut" with your own fantasy of "getting laid",??? (not sure where this comes from??? ) sounds like your own cognitive bias to me... & it sounds like you don't get much yourself ?.. need I say more?
NASAvsPETE1 2 months ago
@NASAvsPETE1 LMAO! Is that the best you can do? Please. Try again, only this time, try to sound like you know what you're talking about. :-)
dan91709 2 months ago
Erasing 5 seconds of wires in a silly, fake-looking 50s film versus erasing wires for approximately 300,000 seconds of Apollo EVA footage in the 60s for 2 astronauts, rovers, objects & even dust in a yet-to-be identified mega-studio--Oh please! That's retouching approximately 9-million frames without digital technology! When did NASA get time to build 15 Saturn Vs, the VAB building, launch complexes, etc? You guys really believe this?
LunarTuner 3 months ago
@LunarTuner Question: The clip looks like it has been remastered. Would evidence of wires be cleaned-up during the process?
occhamite 3 months ago
1st of all, there's no standard conspiracy claim on this. Some claim wires, some claim slow mo & some claim both. Savage's jump is ONLY a vertical, w/o a pressurized suit. His horizontal bouncing & walking looks totally unconvincing. NO ONE has ever duplicated anything close to Apollo EVA vids--not HBO, not Mythbusters, not Kubrick. NO ONE. Should be possible if it was all faked in the 1st place, right?
Besides, this doesn't explain falling dust and objects which could not possibly be on wires.
LunarTuner 3 months ago
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20 years later than destination moon... with nasas billions of dollars in mind, shane killian still dont believe they could hide a wire? LOL! this video proves that they could do it 20 years earlier with a budget who was probalry 1/1000 000 of nasas
xismxist 3 months ago
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xismxist 3 months ago
Well, I love how guys like Killian continue to prove the moonlandings were a fraud. Thanks Shane!
un4g1v3n1 3 months ago
@un4g1v3n1 It's amazing how you got a picture of the Sun 20º to the South of the Zodiac towards 'Crux'. Or maybe that as the light on the elbow of the Shuttle's arm.
Please don't take that video down, it's the source for so much amusement.
Tweekerhead 2 months ago
you totally owned him
jb0609 3 months ago
Interesting thing about the Trumble quote is that he said "suspending the ASTRONAUT on wires and then shooting from directly below".
Shouldn't he have said "Suspending the ACTORS"?
A little subliminal slip there perhaps?
He is confusing his work on 2001 with his work on the apollo movies
Keep up the good work Jarrah
Never let the trolls and idiots get you down to thier low vibration
HARRADMUSIC 3 months ago
@moonhoaxlunatic1 So enough of the chit chat, I promised a Sad movie, so here it is.. so much for your dream MR Brant,enjoy /watch?v=T8voY-i7-gg
NASAvsPETE1 3 months ago
@moonhoaxlunatic1 Maybe look a yourself?, your the one filling up the page 3 times in response to my overwhelming landslide mathematical & precise comment.;)
NASAvsPETE1 3 months ago
@moonhoaxlunatic1 lets see between your 2 posts (as you thought about mathematics), the above calculation took you 4 hours to figure out and is biased because this number reflects 97.2% of most you tube accounts as MOST people couldn't be bothered voting. Ok with this in mind let look at some real data, 25.9% dislikes on this video vs 41.3 % on the previous either way still in a winning position & in fact an increase in approval ratings of 15.4%. hate to break the REAL news.
NASAvsPETE1 3 months ago
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NASAvsPETE1 3 months ago
pretty close? savage's jump looks odd as hell, as if it is shed up. oh and there those dust particle to got to make do the same jump.....what did they place wires on each speck of dust? do you got anything of substance or is it just anomaly hunting
noliesundead 3 months ago
@noliesundead "anomaly hunting"? both jumps are exactly the same, oh dear.
NASAvsPETE1 3 months ago
@NASAvsPETE1 the same? the mythbusters clips looks sped up. and i like how you dust overlooked the part about the moon dust.
noliesundead 3 months ago
@moonhoaxlunatic1 i would doubt that, looking at historical data on previous videos..
NASAvsPETE1 3 months ago
@moonhoaxlunatic1 Yes I agree NASA have many paid shills & all i can see is 77 thumbs up telling us that JW has hit the jack pot with this video. Many shills will be in tears, about time.
NASAvsPETE1 3 months ago
Totally agree Jarrah~! They CAN, and have, been able to hide wires, my first Disney on ice( I think it was on ice, can't remember) back in the mid 80's was amazing, because they DID use wires to float the actors and you literately could NOT see the wires even when the lights were on them .. they hid them in the costumes.
Arthurox 3 months ago
ohh BTW
Yes we did!
theability 3 months ago
Wow @ 2:16 "The reason I didn't buy this experiment..." and to add insult to injury you continue with..."because it is based upon a misrepresentation of the conspiracy theory."
What happened to data and predictions? Oh that is right data and prediction continue to prove the failed Apollo hoax time and time again.
But hey we know that you ignore what doesn't fit the paradigm of your grandfathers failed legacy!
theability 3 months ago
"Wires played a crucial role for the Apollo program, lifting the actors across the night sky at area 51. A true sensation and innate feel of 1/6 coupled with slowed down video, only Kubrick himself could make this happen", this with the development of scotchlite technology in film by 2001 a space odyssey in 1968 Apollo couldn't make a mistake, and they didn't.
NASAvsPETE1 3 months ago
@NASAvsPETE1 You really have got shit for brains haven't you?
But you don't have the faintest fucking idea what scotchlite is, let alone how it was used in 2001.
Clueless cunt.
pt1tard 3 months ago
@NASAvsPETE1 .... pete this is "tweakerhead" cloning my account with the pt1Tard instead of pt1Gard, he has used 3 diff clones of my name now, shows how desperate he and nasa shills are, its amusing .... you should see the filth he posted on my channel ... uses C word dozens of times .... hope all is well :)
pt1gard 3 months ago
@pt1gard yeh don't worry I picked up on that straight away, desperation is at hand it seems, these nasty people are trying to hold back the truth, no doubt working for a the CiA.
NASAvsPETE1 3 months ago
@NASAvsPETE1 You wouldn't know the truth if it fucked you in the ass.
You gonna tell us how they used scotchlite to fake the moon landings or what Mr Hollywood Special FX Wizard? You keep going on about it like you know so much. Don't be shy, go make a video about how they did it. Describe the mechanism so we can all see.
Or crawl back to your trailer and STFU.
pt1tard 3 months ago
@pt1gard Aaaaawwww boohoohoo. Quick somebody call the Waaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhmbulance LOLOLOLOL
pt1tard 3 months ago
@pt1gard Of course, you'd NEVER post ANY obscenities on other people's channel pages, would you?
GlowWorm1962 3 months ago
The moon landings were real.
shadowedmultiverse 3 months ago
@moonhoaxlunatic1 ... how fucking stupid RU? cia began nasa, yes or no? if 2 guys plan to hold up a 7/11 do they conspire? lmfao, nurse nayirah? did i mention bigfoot, doofus? ... you are too stupid to discern hoax from conspiracy, did babs olson make those cell phone calls, yes or no? did lavon affair happen? operation northwoods? did jopa help coverup sandusky? did amazing randi proposition teen boys on the phone? UR baked, I win, you look like an idiot shill :)
pt1gard 3 months ago
@moonhoaxlunatic1 ... lmfao, i guess footprints are all over the joint and no tire tracks under behind or in front of the LR in many pics, duh, wanna help us here, shilly?
pt1gard 3 months ago
@pt1gard what if the astronauts walked over the tracks?
Changis158711 3 months ago
@Changis158711 ... sure some of them prob did, but would they all just vanish? and no smudges etc ... also no one can explain the no TRACKS under the LR in many pics ... in one pic there are only 2 non smudged bootprints and yet NOT ONE SIGN OF TRACKS UNDER the LR .... any theories how that could happen ... no pro apollo people will ever answer that, I would appreciate your thoughts ... google this: as-17-140-21354 HR and then click images and click on first pic and enlarge it, get back to me
pt1gard 3 months ago
@pt1gard they could have carried it there? /watch?v=fNhpYxgGjKA
notice near the end how they carry it closer to the camera before putting the seats up? it would only weigh about 35kg/75-80 lbs in 1/6th gravity anyway...
Changis158711 3 months ago
@Changis158711 ... ive heard the carry thing before, where are pics of it, would be amusing to see in those bulky suits ... where on earth do people carry things when they could drive it and why would they? this is a very lame concept, but i appreciate your thoughts
pt1gard 3 months ago
@pt1gard did you watch the video link i provided? or i found the video (not just timelapse) of it here: watch?v=-ShauSWcTC4 towards the end (right after 10:00 ) you clearly see the astronauts picking the rover up, so not such a lame concept after all if they actually could carry it where they wanted more or less effortlessly. as I said previously, it would only weigh 35kg/75-80lbs in 1/6th gravity so carrying it around would not be a problem for 2 astronauts.
Changis158711 3 months ago
@Changis158711 ... the lame part like i said is why would they carry it about and where is the film of this ever happening away from the LM? obviously you believe the nasa story and I dont, I used to until i looked into ALL the facts and pictures and films etc ... i have written a book, its done, and will go to press soon ... there will be much evidence and even things never released before ... did you know NASA lost tons fo things, blueprints, tapes etc from the apollo missions? weird, eh?
pt1gard 3 months ago
@pt1gard please dont assume what i believe or not, my point was they could easily carry the rover if they wanted to, therefore it is not impossible nor improbable that they could have carried the LR and placed it infront of the LM. atleast across the distance shown between the LR and LM in as-17-140-21354...
Changis158711 3 months ago
@Changis158711 ... ok sorry for "assuming" ... i will ask straight up, do you think apollo was 100% real, did the 12 nuats walk on the moon, etc .... what exactly do you believe since you are reluctant to share?
pt1gard 3 months ago
@pt1gard i am not reluctant to share anything. i am not on any "side". the moonlanding are more or less impossible to prove without actually going there and doing thorough research on it, so I try to get as much information as possible, from both sides. it is not a black and white answer. but i ask questions when someone states a "fact" based on their findings, as they are assumptions/speculations since you cannot be 100% sure that it did or didnt happen. that doesnt mean theyre wrong or right..
Changis158711 3 months ago
@moonhoaxlunatic1 so.. you cant spell "Planetary Society"?, this isn't an English Lesson, when I have some free time ill give you a lesson? ok ? wink wink? nudge nudge?
NASAvsPETE1 3 months ago
@moonhoaxlunatic1 .... where are the LR tracks UNDER as17-140-21354? please explain, thanks
pt1gard 3 months ago
@pt1gard In lunar gravity, the LR was light enough to be carried by the astronauts. Quite often, instead of executing 3 point turns, they just got out, picked the LR up and turned the it around by hand - hence the apparent "absence" of track marks in some pictures.
Not that I expect you to believe me for a second...
GlowWorm1962 3 months ago
@moonhoaxlunatic1 well im a member of the planetary society... are you>?
NASAvsPETE1 3 months ago
@NASAvsPETE1 your point being? anyone who has 37$ (or 25$ if your a student) (40/30$ canada - 57/43$ international) can become a member of the planetary society for a whole year.. so i cannot see you being a member having anything to do with this matter (other than that it is space related) Also, The planetary society aknowleges the apollo missions as legitimate. Quote: "It (The moon) is the only place in the solar system other than Earth walked upon by humans." so why support them at all?
Changis158711 3 months ago
@Changis158711 my point being you are not, & naming the price of their subscription is meaningless, that's like saying "im not a member because I cant afford it nor bother to have an interest in science", Your comment,"other than that it is space related", this is the point, they keep up to date on new topics, new questions have evolved on the validity of Apollo with USSR Phobos Mars deep space flights testing bacteria, eukaryota and archaea.
NASAvsPETE1 3 months ago
@NASAvsPETE1 how do you know I'm not a member? your basing your "facts" on your assumptions. my point was that paying a subscription for something does not make you any more credible on the matter, yet you present your membership as if it is a certificate that you know what you are talking about. Since I have a subscription for a science magazine (covering space, biology, archaeology etc.) that comes out in my country, does that mean that i'm a scientist?
Changis158711 3 months ago
@nasavspete1 and again, how can you trust the planetary society to provide you with facts if they still believe that the moon landing happened? if you search for "Apollo" you'll quickly see that they clearly believe that we landed on the moon like NASA explained. isn't this a conflict of interest?
Changis158711 3 months ago
Radiation KILLS. wires were the ONLY answer.
NASAvsPETE1 3 months ago
@NASAvsPETE1 so does smoking, drinking and eating unhealthy foods.. but it is related to the amount taken in. have you ever been to the dentist or hospital for an x-ray? you use radiation when microwaving your food, your cellphone has radiation, a piece of paper has some radiation, infact, the human body itself has measurable radiation.. the real question is what kind of radiation, how intense the radiation was, and how long the exposure was...
Changis158711 3 months ago
@Changis158711 Well im a member of the planetary society, I aquire their magazine every month, on page 10 there is an article on living organisms on board russia's phobos, it states "for the first time organisms will be tested for survivability outside earths protective magnetosphere for more than just a few days" hmm, how long was the longest Apollo mission? 12 days? Apollo 17, and on board phobos they only have bacteria, eukaryota and archaea. go figure? Wires.
NASAvsPETE1 3 months ago
@NASAvsPETE1 1) and they use bacteria that are known for their extreme survival capacaties.. here are some exerpts from planataryDOTorg: "..bacteria, which had survived and even thrived in the hostile clean room environment", "Another bacteria selected for the long journey to Mars thanks to its remarkable capacity for survival is called "Deinococcus radiodurans," which is Latin for "terrifying berry that survives radiation."" Continued
Changis158711 3 months ago
@NASAvsPETE1 2) "Two distinct species of B. subtilis will fly in the LIFE canister, one designated "168," the other "MW01." Both are radiation resistant." and also, why would you believe a magazine that believes we landed on the moon and use data collected from apollo missions as references? Quote: "Apollo 11, 12, and 15, and Luna 16 and 24, sampled lunar maria."
Changis158711 3 months ago
@Changis158711 yes well the very point is, why don't they send A species similar to the human form? like a monkey for instance?, this wouldn't be difficult & would replicate conditions in an ideal environment, the more articles that come along on missions to Mars, the more questions appear on the validity of Apollo, for most people interested in science this is disturbing.
NASAvsPETE1 3 months ago
@NASAvsPETE1 1) well, a trip to mars is about 33-37 times longer than the 12 days mission.. but i digress, the reason for the experiment is not to see if humans could survive the trip to or from mars, from the site: "LIFE (Living Interplanetary Flight Experiment) will test one aspect of transpermia, the hypothesis that life could survive space travel, if protected inside rocks blasted by impact off one planet to land on another" continued
Changis158711 3 months ago
@nasavspete1 2) and sending a monkey that ways a couple of kilos would be far more expensive than sending bacteria.. (we have to leave earths gravity, and every extra weight has to be accounted for and have the nessacary propulsion to get it out of our atmosphere) it is easy to say things like "we should send a monkey" but the fact that you would need a much bigger rocket and that the price would be much higher still remains, but is rarely considered in these discussions..
Changis158711 3 months ago
@Changis158711 Well there you go sending a monkey is too expensive, need I say more, interesting that they want to test whether specific life forms that are already resistant to many variant levels of radiation (inside a meteoroid) will survive A mars trip,"longer than 3 days" (stated by the planterary report), this is a clear indication we wont be going anywhere outside our protective magnetosphere any day soon. Wonder why>? radiation.
NASAvsPETE1 3 months ago
@NASAvsPETE1 its 3 YEARS not days, and has nothing to do with any manned mission to mars.. this is to see if BACTERIA (not humans) from another planet could survive the trip. and it is not a clear indication, you jump to conclusions, like many of the claims i have seen on this subject (from both sides). and again, "radiation" is a collective term, there are many kinds of radiation, some more lethal than others.. as said before, even a human has radiation, so why dont i have radiation sickness?
Changis158711 3 months ago
@Changis158711 "its 3 YEARS not days", no you don't have the article, its on page 10 written by Bruce Betts, your taking it out of context, the article is on organisms travelling into deep space "outside earths protective magnetosphere for longer than 3 days", & yes it has everything to do with manned missions, the last 520 day test (on earth) for conditions to travel to mars inside a capsule didn't include radiation at all, why didn't they? would you like to sit inside a microwave?
NASAvsPETE1 3 months ago
@NASAvsPETE1 well, i thought it was the same project as explained here: planetary org/programs/projects/innovative_technologies/life/ but why would they use radiation when they are testing the human psyche of living 1,5-2 years in a confined area with the same people? you want them to test everything at the same time. and i would think that mankind has a fairly good understanding about radiation and its efects on humans already, so why test for something that is known?
Changis158711 3 months ago
@Changis158711 "why test something that is already known?", I rest my case, they are testing life forms in deep space for greater than a few days, because they have no previous tests for this.
NASAvsPETE1 3 months ago
@NASAvsPETE1 "Radiation KILLS."
Better switch off all your lights, in that case =p
GlowWorm1962 3 months ago
@GlowWorm1962 more like "remove your head from that microwave oven.".. in reality.
NASAvsPETE1 3 months ago
@NASAvsPETE1 ***Yaaawwwnnn*** Anyone who spares a nanosecond to read your drivel, will soon realise that you're way too immature to engage in adult conversation.
Every time you and your pals make a post; hoax believers look a little more stupid, the conspiracy becomes a bit less credible and Jarrah looks like he's surrounded by fools.
Or is that the aim of your Black Ops mission: Destroy the AHC by making hoax believers look like complete morons?
Whatever. Keep going. You're doing a fine job.
GlowWorm1962 3 months ago
the moon surface produces deadly levels of x-rays.
animefan2k9 3 months ago
@animefan2k9 No the Moon doesn't produce deadly levels of X-rays.It has a higher gamma flux than the Sun,why?
Sun produces very little gamma ray radiation.
The Moon has secondary bombardment and Bremsstrahlung, but the flow rate is very low...hardly detectable.
As far as your assertion of the S.A. mag'.
That was 1958.
Are you adhering to the data of 1958 rather than the data that so many corporations & countries rely on to keep their multimillion dollar satellites up and running.
Tweekerhead 3 months ago
@jhu776 They probably can't be bothered with insignificant small fry like you. Maybe they'll send around a couple of rookie cops, they know an Internet Tough Guy when they see one :p
Or maybe they'll just wait and see if you dare make good your threats - and then use your example as an excuse to further reduce the rights of your countrymen, thus making you a part of their plan.
Oh, the irony ;-)
GlowWorm1962 3 months ago
@moonhoaxlunatic1 " losinig" what?... 1958 have everything its its box and dice. RADIATION, is what stopped them LET-GO-OF-YOUR-BAD-BELIEFS, become free.... it isn't hard.
NASAvsPETE1 3 months ago
@NASAvsPETE1 Radiation is what made Apollo impossible?? What kind of radiation specifically? ;-)
Tweekerhead 3 months ago
@stalkervision You think the fact that Van Allen didn't "redact" the article form Scientific American from 1958 proves your point?
Scientific American is a magazine, sorta' like Time' for nerds.
You're clutching for straw.
You saw a show called "Conspiracy Theory: Did We Land on the Moon? ...Believed it was factual and based on real data.
Amazing how the main stream media manipulates the masses of lemmings like you?
How much have you spent on DVD's and "literature" on the subject? Bingo!!
Tweekerhead 3 months ago
@Tweekerhead scientific american is just a government propaganda mag. they would not print real science discoveries.
animefan2k9 3 months ago
@stalkervision Again, what are you saying? Is there a point to your reply?
What's there not to understand, the environment of space is not a mystery, the data is available for everyone.
There's α & ß radiation soft X-rays, very low flux of gamma ray radiation thanks to our benevolent Sun, what's there not to understand?
Look up the facts, accept reality though it doesn't fit with your belief system, facts are facts....sorry sport.
Tweekerhead 3 months ago
@stalkervision Could you please just elucidate one thought coming from the crowded theater of your mind that someone just yelled 'FIRE" from the 10th row ?
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Would you like to have a discussion about the environment of space, which incidentally I have a degree in ?
Tweekerhead 3 months ago
Interesting that you hoax-believers cling to the 1958 assessment of the VA belts. So many countries and corporations have many expensive satellites in orbit and from that there's ample data related to the Van Allen's.
There's no mystery with the Van Allen radiation belts..
Tweekerhead 3 months ago
@stalkervision I'm sure you've read this before: "The recent Fox TV show, which I saw, is an ingenious and entertaining assemblage of nonsense. The claim that radiation exposure during the Apollo missions would have been fatal to the astronauts is only one example of such nonsense." -- Dr. James Van Allen
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Interesting that you're so obtuse that you can't recognize my appreciation for facts related to astrophysics.
Tells ya' something....
Tweekerhead 3 months ago
@stalkervision Bull-shit, you know the VA quote, don't make me post it. You saw a TV show on FOXTV back in 2001 and freaked out, you're gullible.
See how TV manipulates the gullible masses?
You're one of em'.
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This Apollogist doesn't cherry-pick, you name any issue related to Apollo, we can have a discussion.
I won't let you get past the truth, I promise you.
Tweekerhead 3 months ago
@stalkervision I did look at the trajectory of Apollo 11, obviously you haven't.
Allen Bean was a bad-ass pilot in his day, a pilot.He didn't have anything to do with the trajectory or anything astrophysical as far as the engineering of Apollo, Bean was the navigator, his job was to navigate the set course, nice try but you fail.
The trajectory for Apollo11 flew thru' omnidirectional flux protons of 100MeV / 10³particles/cm²-sec.
You know how easy that is to attenuate?
Reject truth?
Tweekerhead 3 months ago
@moonhoaxlunatic1 I said if there is a reason to be skeptical then being skeptical is advised. One reason to be skeptical with the moon landings is that we've never gone back. The technology should make it easier if we actually went. Another reason is the radiation problem of being in space. It's deadly up there and a huge amount of shielding is needed. They had a small amount of shielding.
howitzer24 3 months ago
@howitzer24 1centimeter of lead OR 18g/cm² of water to attenuate gamma rad' by %50.
2.7g/cm² water =1.0g/cm² AL.
Apollo's 7-8g/cm² AL. density rating was equivalent to over 20g/cm² of water.
2g over halving thickness
The trajectory for Apollo11 flew thru' omnidirectional flux protons of 100MeV / 10³particles/cm²-sec. That was sufficiently attenuated by the hull of the CM of 8g/cm².
There ya' go.
Tweekerhead 3 months ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@Tweekerhead And the micrometeorite and solar flare problem?
howitzer24 3 months ago
@howitzer24 Micrometeorites..really, that's all you got?
The only major flare that happened between 69' and 72' was the well documented flare of August 2nd 1972.
No major flare happened during any of the 9 Apollo lunar missions that lasted a week.
Do you see how often flares happen now today? How many Auroras do you see monthly?
Have you ever seen an Aurora, which is the evidence of a major flare?
Tweekerhead 3 months ago
Still doesn not account for many sequences where the astronauts move past and around each other without the wires becoming tangled.
What is the nature of this magical rig that can handle two astronauts at once mixing their tracks? Explain please.
krisdevalle 3 months ago
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@krisdevalle "Still doesn not account for many sequences where the astronauts move past and around each other without the wires becoming tangled.What is the nature of this magical rig that can handle two astronauts at once mixing their tracks? Explain please."
He can't explain. Nobody can. The simple answer? They weren't on wires, they were in Lunar gravity... You'll never get an explanation like that from Jarrah.
yesiamawizardjonny 3 months ago
once again JW roasts the apollogists ... bring on the shills :)
pt1gard 3 months ago
@moony Hmm, "crossing a bridge" another futile cherry picked metaphor, what if that "bridge" had plastic explosive implanted in its foundations?
NASAvsPETE1 3 months ago
@NASAvsPETE1 "Hmm, "crossing a bridge" another futile cherry picked metaphor, what if that "bridge" had plastic explosive implanted in its foundations?"
What a psycho you are. Has anyone ever tried to examine you for signs of paranoid schizophrenia?
yesiamawizardjonny 3 months ago
@yesiamalittlejonny. And with that comment I suppose you think I'm going to say something like " heeeeeeeres johnny !" we'll think again, maybe it you that's paranoid little johnny, probably too many episodes of the shining I'd say;)
NASAvsPETE1 3 months ago
@NASAvsPETE1 Building a bridge with plastic explosive in the foundations? How and why on Earth would anyone ever do that?
Your sub-James Bond, fantasy scenario shows the fragility of the straws, at which the average AHC believer so desparately clutches and is yet another, timely example, of the kind of perverse "logic" they embrace.
Maybe you should stay indoors and never leave your mom's basement again - what if you go out and the sky falls on your head LOL
>=p
GlowWorm1962 3 months ago
@GlowWorm1962 Sub James bond? don't talk to me about paranoia, why do more than half the United States have a Fire Arm in their house & a nuclear bunker in their basement ? need I say more Merci :)
NASAvsPETE1 3 months ago
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@moonhoaxlunatic1
"So the 'excellent work' was easy after all?"
Actually, it's not that easy .. Proving idiots like Shane wrong takes a lot of time consuming work.
straydog02 3 months ago
@moonhoaxlunatic1 Yes I may if what he says is a bad choice of actions. If the surgeon says that cutting through an artery is the right thing because the patient should bleed a lot I'd try to stop him. He could be drunk or on drugs. Who knows? See how this works now? One's own sense of right and wrong trumps everything else.
howitzer24 3 months ago
@jhu776 Hey cooool...You can become famous like that guy from Sweden ...What's his name???
Shut the fuck up Nimrod and go make my fries.
staIkervisions 3 months ago
i dont agree on the 41% thing, or 246% .....look at his legs, they bow in and out really fast when he sped it up, doesnt happen real time
mrmeadowsiscool 3 months ago
@mrmeadowsiscool Josh! I didn't even notice it was you, brother.
Jarrah will never be convinced, and his claims will be recycled. You'd have to make a response video illustrating it or something.
Remember when I was a hoaxer and we debated the moon landings? haha.
Stay frosty, pal.
yesiamawizardjonny 3 months ago
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in a court of law in the united states you must place your hand on the bible & swear you will tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, Armstrong wouldn't do this, not even on public television... strange no doubt,
NASAvsPETE1 3 months ago
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@jhu776 Get the fuck out of america you fucking faggot
mrmeadowsiscool 3 months ago
@stalkervision Josephine? haha.
yesiamawizardjonny 3 months ago
jhu776 is a propagandist, you can tell, he loves to kill ;)
NASAvsPETE1 3 months ago
@jhu776 Nice. Because I'm having you reported. My "contact" in the government will hopefully supply me with a number to the FBI. I've asked said person.
yesiamawizardjonny 3 months ago
@jhu776 They consider threats to be just as serious as the real thing.
yesiamawizardjonny 3 months ago
@jhu776 You sir, are an idiot!
Fuck off was not coined in the 1920s. Stop threatening to be a terrorist and going on shooting rampages. I know someone working in the US Secret Services with high security clearance, and I can also have you easily reported to the FBI. It's unfortunate, because you're not getting any warnings. I'm reporting you today, whether you want me to or not. I've even taken screen shots of your comments.
yesiamawizardjonny 3 months ago
@jhu776 You need to seek professional help. You are a menace to society and a danger to live around. What country do you live in?
yesiamawizardjonny 3 months ago
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Why did Armstrong not swear on the Holy bible that he walked on the moon? not hard to do is it? Really ?
NASAvsPETE1 3 months ago
@moonhoaxlunatic1 You just changed your original wording, the very act of deceit is a sign of weakness.
NASAvsPETE1 3 months ago
Excellent work once again Jarrah!
Silly apollogists like Shane Killigan are so easy to prove wrong.
straydog02 3 months ago
@NASAvsPETE1 i can assure you, jarrah does not work for the company....
Alucard20039 3 months ago
@jhu776 And just WTF would YOU know of the history of MY language?
PMSL =D
GlowWorm1962 3 months ago
@jhu776 WTF???
You're threatening to go on a killing spree, just because you didn't like what someone said to you on the internet???
Another example of the type of extreme mindset, that the Hoax Believers are attracting these days =(
GlowWorm1962 3 months ago
@jhu776 It's an ancient Anglo-Saxon expression, the origins of which are lost in the mists of time.
It means: "Go away. Quickly and immediately. Do not bother me again on this matter, for you are nothing to me and I consider your opinions on the subject to be worthless."
It is sometimes expressed as a hand / finger gesture, e.g. ..l., (international) or ..\/, (UK).
Hope that helps.
GlowWorm1962 3 months ago
@moonhoaxlunatic1 "How is this work 'pretty important' if Jarrah revealed that the Moon landing was fake? "
bingo, you just nailed yourself.
NASAvsPETE1 3 months ago
@moonhoaxlunatic1 An interesting conjecture. Could there be an element of social manipulation behind the Apollo Hoax Conspiracy - as there has been with the UFO phenomenon?
Where does Jarrah get his money? He doesn't appear to have a job, but is somehow able to pay for trips abroad, simulated lunar regolith, special edition box sets, video gear etc. and can somehow afford to spend every waking hour making videos.
Put simply: Who is bankrolling Jarrah White?
GlowWorm1962 3 months ago
@GlowWorm1962 :Could there be an element of social manipulation behind the Apollo Hoax Conspiracy - as there has been with the UFO phenomenon?" this is typical to mix up a ridiculous concept such as a "UFO conspiracy" with a very real possibility of a human constructed hoax, don't attempt to confuse the two, the latter is utterly outlandish and deemed to be with any "reasonable man" in any global court jurisdiction.
NASAvsPETE1 3 months ago
"paid shills, paying shills", i think you will find that its all worth while in the end, no matter what the outcome.
NASAvsPETE1 3 months ago
Ill be willing to donate to Jarrah, this work is pretty important if we are going to set up a class action against NASA. There are too many gaps in the current visual record, I consider this research crucial for the truth. Merci!
NASAvsPETE1 3 months ago
@jhu776 Really? You sent Jarrah money and e-mails? How long have you been following Jarrah's illustrious career? Presumably longer than the day your account has been in existence.
Sorry, did I say "shill"? I meant sockpuppet =p
Now fuck off.
GlowWorm1962 3 months ago
ive heard we can donate to your worthy cause Jarrah, please advise how this can be done?
NASAvsPETE1 3 months ago
@moonhoaxlunatic1 what if that so called "surgeon" is an axe murderer in disguise ?
NASAvsPETE1 3 months ago
@moonhoaxlunatic1 So you're acknowledging you let other people dictate what you will believe in. You're unable to look at the evidence with an open mind and draw your OWN conclusions. Draw. Your. Own. Conclusions. You have vast intelligence inside of you.
howitzer24 3 months ago
Well I have to say you really really made Shane Killian look like a complete imbecile, this video goes down in the hall of debunk fame and done in pure style like jw always has, hats off Monsier ! From France !
NASAvsPETE1 3 months ago
@jhu776 Ah, hello Matthew. Long time no see. The video you're looking for is "MarsFaker: Se7en Minutes Of Propaganda. PART 1"
WhiteJarrah 3 months ago
@jhu776 Or just type in: "MarsFaker"
yesiamawizardjonny 3 months ago
@jhu776 Good to see Jarrah's paid shills earning their keep.
GlowWorm1962 3 months ago
@smogmonster awesome name dude, that was the first godzilla movie i ever saw. And i was hokked
Alucard20039 3 months ago
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@WhiteJarrah Once again you debunk yourself. LOOK closely, beginning at 3:57: Notice that when the men hit the ground, Young's arm quivers like it's made of jello, while Savage's arm is shaken in a much slower, more normal manner. Apollo clips of men working on the lunar surface show this effect, UNLESS CHERRY PICKED. The movements of the men acquire absurd munchkin-like characteristics when the speed is increased to make them resemble footage shot on earth.
occhamite 3 months ago
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occhamite 3 months ago
I sense some annoyance from little johnny, such a shame, maybe have can't see how correct this video is? 52 thumbs up superb !!!
NASAvsPETE1 3 months ago
I just wonder what Jarrah's girlfriend makes of all this.
GlowWorm1962 3 months ago
@GlowWorm1962 PM him and ask.
As far as I know, he does not have one. But he might.
yesiamawizardjonny 3 months ago
@yesiamawizardjonny It was a rhetorical question.
GlowWorm1962 3 months ago
@yesiamawizardjonny Actually, I think Jarrah's "girlfriend" is Ranma - if you know what I mean ;-)
GlowWorm1962 3 months ago
I was going to say Happy Thanksgiving yesterday over facebook but then I remembered you were Australian. haha
On to the video
yesiamawizardjonny 3 months ago
The fact that you hoaxers align your belief system with the Flat Earth Society which were the first to allege the landings were a hoax and Kubrick directed it, really makes me wonder.
What's the motivation here, is it to enlighten the world or just make yourselves feel smarter than everyone else, after all I have never had a civil discussion with any hoax-believer, it always ends up with childish banal insults, every time.
That tells ya' something.
Tweekerhead 3 months ago
@Tweekerhead Where has the Flat Earth Society been mentioned? Or implied?
You're losing.....
Chev4206 3 months ago
@Chev4206 The Flat Earth Society are big proponents of the hoaxed moon landings theory. Just check out their forums... I thought it was established that you're too stupid to be allowed to comment??
yesiamawizardjonny 3 months ago
@Chev4206 They were the first to allege the landings were a hoax numb-skull.
You have nothing to contribute to any discussion, I thought it was established that you can only read and not type any more posts.
The world doesn't need people like you breading or propagating, please do not copulate with anyone, kill yourself as soon as you have the guts, or just keep sniffing glue & paint thinner.
Tweekerhead 3 months ago
@moonhoaxlunatic1 Personal insults only make you look like the monkey, it's time to do some tests yourself, and sufficient reading I might add:
NASAvsPETE1 3 months ago
@NASAvsPETE1 ROFL fucking COPTER.
You're such a fucking idiot, Pete1. Just go home and die so you'll stop bugging everyone with your stupidity. Oh, and come up with an original username, twerp.
yesiamawizardjonny 3 months ago
@smogmontser The jet test itself doesn't debunk any wire concepts with slowed down video, in this example we are isolating the jump test, there are many ways of testing 1/6.
NASAvsPETE1 3 months ago
I have tried this for myself.
I dropped a small lump of polystyrene together with a hammer. Guess what?The hammer landed first because its heavier. What the fuck has 1/6th gravity to do with anything? The hammer is still heavier!!!
As always Nosa's lies discovered.
Chev4206 3 months ago
@Chev4206 That post shows how amazingly stupid you are. It doesn't matter what weighs more, all objects will fall at the same acceleration, unless one object is slowed by friction from air resistance.
You're an utter fool and you just proved it, have a nice day ass-hole ;-)
staIkervisions 3 months ago
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@Chev4206 "I dropped a small lump of polystyrene together with a hammer. Guess what?"
I'm amazed you have the intelligence to keep breathing - that's what ..l.,
GlowWorm1962 3 months ago
@Chev4206 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAAH
It has NOTHING to do with the gravity. It's because they're in a vacuum!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
The only reason a light object falls slower is because of air resistance. Do you really think that if that was an obvious anomaly, nobody would have already called NASA on it.
Oh... my...fucking...god... You have lost ALL merit on youtube. Seriously. You're not allowed to comment anymore, dumbass.
yesiamawizardjonny 3 months ago
@moonhoaxlunatic1 so all of these "scientists and credentialed" people were actually on the moon?
id think again, evidence? lets start with Jarrahs perfect debunk of myth busters ridiculous & hopeless attempts to show 1/6 gravity, & they call themselves professionals? you have to be kidding me?
it is very clear Jamies jump with wires is exactly the same as the (apparent) moon jump. We all knew Myth Busters attempts would be paid off, Jarrah has proven this with undisputed Genius!
NASAvsPETE1 3 months ago
@smogmontser you do realize that myth busters were paid a very large amount of money to debunk the moon hoax? they also admitted that "they could make anything look as good as you wanted or as bad as you wanted" (for the right price) being visual experts themselves. A quote from Jamie himself.
NASAvsPETE1 3 months ago
@stalkervision yes this is a very important point, with the concerns of random flares, Van Allen, (not to forget killing astronauts with failed landings) robotics were well established during the 60's and a very sensible plausible option even recommended by Van Allen himself.
NASAvsPETE1 3 months ago
@moonhoaxlunatic1 You answered my question with a question of which is the answer is already in my question.
jgbloyd 3 months ago
What is that shiny line above the jumping astronot?
soupofdefish 3 months ago
Sheesh, why bother countering anything Killian has to say, he's a complete moron. Most functional brains recognize that.
Ghenghy 3 months ago
@moonhoaxlunat What did the soviets really track? could the Lems have been unmanned? 16mm film tells me this could be the case, there is no 16mm film inside the lem on approach or take off, only from the outside, which indicates that each landing could have been unmanned, heavy rovers with robotic arms could easily pick up moon rock, if radiation was the issue... The LRO has taken Very close images of craters at the A15 sight yet no images of a Lem or rover, which would be at point blank view.
NASAvsPETE1 3 months ago
@moonhoaxlunatic1 So lets talk about "credentialed people" & peer review in real terms, how can these people know that that the LRO images are real?, this is where it comes down to. A government can give us information, yes they can provide us with distant images in 2009, but lower the LRO & say hey here are some new images I have, what make you thin they are real? because your peers say so? is it a mere trick founded by marketing that says, convince & ye shall be convinced? Qs without As.
NASAvsPETE1 3 months ago