I am Roman Catholic, and really believing in God and Jesus. but also i am believing of bing bang theory and evolution. Because this theories (proven by facts) show me what a wonderful universe is imagine that God most of live form making more perfect (read book "Counting God") Also dont need read Bible word to word.. Bible has more meaning then just reading word to word that also said Augustine of Hippo.
If he's wrong, and there is no God, and all there is is science, then how do you explain people being healed from uncurable diseases, sitings of apperitions, psychics, and wigi boards? Even if you Don't believe in God you have to admitt there is such a thing as the supernatural.
Of course the Big bang theory is real, Come on a explosion turns into a circle of fire then some how fire turns into a circle of water then creates animals humans grasses tree;s Of course a big ball of fire has the power do that.
I would like to point out also that it is not possible to fit the entire universe in a space the size of a period on a page or smaller. I don't care how tightly you pack it, there is a limit as to how many atoms can exist in that small of a space. Sure, the universe could theoretically be shrunk to a much smaller size than it is now, but not that small.
@5h0rgunn ok- there were no atoms during the big bang. Atoms do not form until later. Also, what is this limit you speak of? Do you know the general properties of a black hole? The singularity- which is much much smaller than a period- can contain millions of solar masses. Im just curious as to where youi get your info from. Thanks.
it's funny that they don't believe in god because they don't see him or see clues(fake everyone sees anyway) and they believe in a shitball that neither have they seen it nor have they clues for it lulz
The big bang was the starting point of gods creation. You don't grow perfect flowers from thin air, a seed is planted that blossoms (evolves) into it's final form, a perfect flower with all of it's supporting sub-systems from the root up. Debate=over. Most scientists are religious, people forget. Scientists are merely curious reporters of his Devine methods, trying to get closer to Him.
@rockbandmidi , "The big bang was the starting point of gods creation"
The Bible contradicts that, sun on day 4, earth on day 1, morning evening on day 1/2/3, and also on the days from the moment the sun was created. This is the truth, the day was what it was and God didn't create Adam as an embryo either and put him in the garden of Eden.....
The Bible is the truth and it is clear, things are not created from zero, that's not how he works. Still, God bless you.
@CreationistsWON Please put down Ur Bibical Action Figures,stand up,back out of the sand box, turn around, LOOK...Guess what...WELCOME TO THE 21st Century...it is no longer 500bc or 660ad. Put down that Book of Bronze Age campfire stories of Myth and Wake Up. I love to break the news to U..but talking snakes,donkeys n burning bushes don't exist, nor can a man turn a stick into a snake. Grow up! This ISN"T Fantasy Land!!! Ur NOT IMMORTAL!! Hell is a Threat to Control Ur MIND!
YOU are the one who needs to wake up. God is almighty and all powerful, so it is VERY EASY when He allows it to happen. He CAN turn a stick into a serpent. The serpent spoke because Satan was speaking through it. Hell is real, but it WAS NOT CREATE TO CONTROL OUR MINDS! Hell was made for the devil and the demons after they rebelled. Please, free your mind from the evil that atheism and secular education.
@munku121 You mean the education that teaches us how to produce new medicine and other medical treatment that can one day cure cancer and produce an vaccine against HIV?
I'm glad that you allow comments unlike many other creationists who show themselves to be cowards. They don't seem to get that atheists are laughing at creationists because of their refusal to let others comment. I'm a creationist, just so you know. You shouldn't have 'comments appending approval' though. No need to control what people say.
Good point at 3:59-Evolutionists like Thunderf00t constantly reiterate that rejecting naturalism somehow retards technological developments such as walking on the moon. This is shown in his "1000 years of creationist acheivements" video-Ironically the second guy who walked on the moon was a Creationist(Buzz Aldrin)-he started reading Genesis when he saw the earth from such a perspective. Naturalism and technology are very much unrelated.
@CreationistsWON yo Creationists i respect u man , abd everyone else who Believes in The Big Bang theroy : Life is full of questions our brains and SCIENCE cant answer.For example : Science ,How were WE HUMANS created . We Humans were created by God ... Who created God we dont know , Our brains and odern Knowledge cant understand that , we believe he was Just there
i find very funny how athiests are hell bent on making the big bang theory holy. where is there scientific credibelity. its proposed theory that could be wrong
I kinda agree with nyarlotep. And please forgive me if I offend, it is not the intention. Yes, naturalism is an assumption but so is God. We cannot prove God's existence. The evidence you speak of can be perceived differently by different people. You may see it as evidence of God, the person next you may see the same evidence as nothing more than a natural occurence and some may see it differently again. It's all about perception. Believe in God if you wish, I would rather just be open minded :)
the universe has significantly more gravity than what can be calculated from the observed mass. since matter is the only thing that has gravity it is logically concluded that there is something that has mass or something completely new. this thing is called dark matter. all scientists will freely admit that this is an unknown and are currently researching to find an answer.
please tell me what book, chaper and verse i can find an explination for dark matter. it will save years of research.
what is this about pop 3 stars being around today? they wouldn't exist today they would of existed in history. astronomers are looking for them. we don't have all the answers but why stop trying to find em. scientists could give up and say god did it?
it is not impossible to seek knowledge and believe in GOD at the same time. seek knowledge from cradle to grave. benificial science by itself is a deed
Great arguement for creationalism. Although you don't have to convince me about it. What I find interesting is that some Atheists actually that Christianity is absurd. This is exactly what I think of Atheistic ideas re the big bang. Total absurdity. Oh well they can't help being spiritually blind can they?
Haha, i just read wanna fly saying were brainwashed! hahaha.
1. a method for systematically changing attitudes or altering beliefs, originated in totalitarian countries, esp. through the use of torture, drugs, or psychological-stress techniques.
2. any method of controlled systematic indoctrination, esp. one based on repetition or confusion: brainwashing by TV commercials.
Sounds like evolution propaganda (doesnt mean it is just sounds like it) to me.
atheism is wrong! (no offence im just speaking my mind) they dont belive in the lord and when you atheists die you will see the lord! what do you atheists think when you die? do you think that nothing will happen? if you see the lord then you know that atheism is wrong!
Well if I die and go to face the god in which I didnt believe when I lived then I would tell him I live a good life, I never harm other people and followed my sense of morality to make the world a better place for my family, friends and everyone I interact with. Then If I have to go to such place as Hell just because I didnt see evidence of this god's existence I would happily do so knowing that a heaven with a god that sends good people to suffer would not be a good place to live anyway.
@nyarlotep brother, you SEE the evidence, the Bible says that you are without excuse. No if's or but's.
Romans {1:20} For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, [even] his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse
Time to get saved ! Google 'jesus is savior how to be saved' ! God loves you very much indeed ! Remember, humanity is without excuse !
According to Christians like yourself, why would you even ask the question? You believe god has always been so therefore why would ask? looks like you are picking a fight at which you will lose. Im sick of bible quoters or should I say brainwashed people.
Number 1. Why did you write me? I never posted a comment to any of your vids. You asked...Want to take a stab at who invented God? My answer to that is very simple. Man made god, Im atheist, always will be. I will not debate you; I have found trying to debate against a Christian is like trying to debate with a child.
Question for Christians: An agrument in your favour is the one that claims that God exists outside of time. That is, he is eternal. Now my question is this, if god does infact exist outside of time, then would it also be logical to claim that he has no thought process, no judgement process etc. A process is defined a change of something over TIME. Therefor how can something that exists outside of time interact/concern himself with uneternal beings, without a notion of a thought process. Thanks
"then would it also be logical to claim that he has no thought process,"
What's logic for him ? The Bible clearly states that we can't think for him let alone say what's logic...we're bound to time so we can't think as if we weren't.
And the second question i would answer the same, but i would add this to it. He created time, therefore he can be everywhere at any moment. He actually created it so he's not bound to anything and can jump in whenever he want's, wherever he want's
DanielBlueFist - No God is real, the stuff people are adding to God wards are fairy tales and that's why God want us to seek him ourself and not be confuse by others.
DanielBlueFist - God is real, the stuff you are hearing is fairy tales from man and that's why God want us to seek him ourself and not be confuse by others.
That comes down to scriptures, true. But even that points to Christianity if you look at Ancient Civilizations, cultures who recorded what happened like written in Genesis, Jewish Torah pointing to a Messias in the book of Isaiah/daniel, fulfilled in the coming of Christ, Islam fails terribly because it talks about the Bible and Torah to be holy, but rejects more than half of it...
Even threw historical evidences and scriptures it seems Christianity has the best numbers...
Are you sure the Bible you are referring to isn't actually the Torah? And could you provide that passage in the Koran, I happen to have a copy and Id like to see for myself.
Read before you comment please, the Ot is a part of the Torah.
About Islam, here you go.
Muslims are commanded in the Quran to believe in the books of the Jews and the Christians, the Torah and the Injeel/bible (Surah 4, Al Nisa, verse 136)
'And if thou wert in doubt as to what We have revealed unto thee, then ask those who have been reading the book from before thee..' (Surah 10, Yunus, verse 94)
LOL, i see a typo i believe, the OT is a collection of several books from the Jewish Torah. But the fact is that the entire Torah is holy to Christians
'Say: O People of the Book! Ye have no ground to stand upon unless ye stand fast by the Law, the Gospel and all the revelation that has come to you from your Lord' (Surah 5, Al Ma'idah, verse 68)
Btw, false statements are not welcome here, i gave you a few quotes from the qu'ran, and as you may know the same book CLAIMS holy books cannot be edited, i didn't even mention historical evidences about the first gospels which were written many centuries before Mohammed even made these statements.
Debate is fine, but i will reject false statements.
Any supernatural force will leave some observable signature or natural effect of its presence unless it worked very hard to hide it, which quite a dick move on god's part. However
And, for the religion of Atheism, we look at what? A big bang? How is that seen? LOL Or a theory...of evolution, hmmm, that one isn't seen either LOL Darwin didn't think...things thru, did he? LOL No doubt, Creator, God. Just look around, proofs all around. Even you. LOL :) Are proof. Got a mirror? Or do you really, really, really think, a blob, evolve, evlolve, evolved....and bang, it was a bigger blob, and then, oooops...man. how funny. :) And you think, religion is silly. LOL
okay like you say evolution is observed with animals with a "short life span" in different invironments right?so that doesnt prove that they evolve it just proves that they adapt...and I have a question for all you athiests and people that believe in evolution okay Hjernespreng 'where did our oceans come from'? did planet earth just magically evolve water out of plain dust?
You said that animals "Adapt". This is essentially evoloution. Animals are born with very slight mutations in their genome which in a new environment can either be beneficial, meaningless or non-beneficial. Those with benificial mutations are more likely to survive than those without. If they are more likely to survive, they are more likely to mate and other animals with the same mutation will be born. This happens so much that the animal will become a new species. Google "Speciation"
As for the oceans, many astronomers believe that much of the oceans came from commets from space. If we agree that water is just a compund of hydrogen and oxygen, it is possible that it came from space, much like the rest of our atmostphere is just gas that has clung to our planet because of gravity. Water could crash into Earth in the form of ice and melt. It would account for the abundance of water on Earth and the giant holes on the Earths surface.
Comments are all allowed from now on, i see people are actually debating, i hope i can leave it like this. The only thing i ask in return, please respect each other no matter what your views are.
Just as silly as a man who created himself, then everything thing that can be seen. Just as silly as a gOd that openly speaks to a ancient back water society, but not to a more intelligent race of human like todays man. Looking at the majesty of the the ocean is only proof of salt water. Parry, Dodge, Thrust.
if you guys wanna see a hoax just look at religion....thats a big money maker right there and they get it all for doing pretty much nothing but say that there is a dude who is suppose to clean you somehow...lol
You are right but did you know that not all christian denominations are accepted by God? How you can be sure your denomination is accepted? For example Jehova's witnesses believe that the number 666(the number of Satan) is a good thing and they don't believe Jesus Christ was God they believe Jesus was the archangel Michael incarnate.What denomination are you?
Why not ? Maybe he wanted to be an example for us, and look HE WAS, 7th rest, we still except it.
"or is that the limit to his power?"
Don't make fun of yourself please.
"if so, he's not so mighty now is he? "
Did that feel good ? He could do it in less than a nanosecond, even less than that, ask him, not me, i'm not God, but you don't believe in him, how come do you think that his power isn't without borders ?
if god is god, why did it take six days? why not 5, or 4 or with the snap of a finger? i mean if hes god, then surely he could snap his fingers and create everything right? or is that the limit to his power? if so, he's not so mighty now is he?
"The devastating problem for the Big Bang actually is a powerful confirmation of Biblical creation"
How does the the lack of evidence for one idea demonstrate evidence for your god? You cannot use a negative to prove a positive, it is called basic logic.
That means that everything you people BELIEVE in contradicts itself, and that we were right from the beginning, a universe as ours has to be created, otherwise the laws itself would never ever let something logic to appear, even when you give it billions of years.
There has to be a creator, not because your side is wrong, but because we were right all along...
Well, no facts to be honest, you didn't watch the clip did you ? Please watch it and come back with a vengance.
I could ask you how come the matter/anti-matter problem would go against your big bang fairytale when your side admits there has to be a equal amount to get it working, but it would rapidly distroy each other when there would have been a equal amount.
Please, come with arguments, not with crap they served you on a golden plate...
I don't know if you have heard of it, but many scientist believe, (in a scientific way), that a singularity was the origin of the universe. Also, one theory is that the universe is expanding and eventually it will get to the point that life will no longer be able to survive. If this is true, why is it so depressing? We shouldn't try to cover truth up with happiness just to shield ourselves from what is reality.....Thank You :)
Also, the universe is about 12 billion years old, the age of the earth and our solar system is roughly around 4 and a half billion years old. How do we know this? Astronomers use mathematics and physics to date the oldest stars and they measure the rate of the expansion of the universe from the origin of the "big bang". The phrase "big bang" is a general statement for the origin of the universe.
Euuu no, it's not older than a few thoussand, make it 6, make it 6005, but nothing more than that.
"Astronomers use mathematics and physics to date the oldest stars and they measure the rate of the expansion of the universe from the origin of the "big bang"."
Yep, that's how we know how old it is right ? Did yhet reach the border yet ? Do they know anything about the space the time was traffeling in, the speed of light ? Always constant ?
"Euuu no, it's not older than a few thoussand, make it 6, make it 6005, but nothing more than that"
Actually we can use this crazy thing called Carbon dating to demonstrate the earth is older than 6,000 years which we cross reference with objects of known age. This has been done since the system of testing was first used.
Carbon dating isn't accurate, you should know your facts, it always craps different dates wich contradicts itself, sometimes with more than 200 % !!!! But you believe it to be accurate.
Like i said before, they use the fossil record to pick out the date corresponding a certain layer, but the layers itself are dated by fossils decades ago.
So what makes you think that the dates in those days were accurate enough so we could use a each layer as a standard ?
Not accurate says who and with what evidence? They are accurate, but they are not precise. Sure they do not know the exact date on the dot, but they do know the general time of these fossils.
On the topic of evolution, where did things such as viruses come from??? A recent example would be Swine Flu. This virus mutated (evolved). Also if man was "created" the same time as everything else, what about the fossil records? Why are there no fossils of humans during the Jurassic, Cretaceous, etc etc periods?
If they didnt come from macro-evolution where did they come from? Micro-evolution...if viruses are a result of micro-evolution that throws a big kink in god creating everything in six days doesnt it?
So the entire fossil record is fake??? Can I have some type of source for this material?
The fossil record is not the result of "Noah's Flood"
Btw. they found giant bones that belonged to humans, but that contradicted your evil fossil record, so they've put them away.
In East Turkey you can still look at a giant human in a museum, near the border with Armenis.
Many found worldwide, but offcourse not half apes or something, that's a worldwide Hoax, only ment to give women the right to kill their baby's and stuff like that, and screw around, divorce, use drugs and so on.
Why is "my" fossil record evil? Are you so warped to believe that science over the past 150 years is completely out to destroy religion??? By the way where does your sources come from on this???
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Many found worldwide, but offcourse not half apes or something, that's a worldwide Hoax, only ment to give women the right to kill their baby's and stuff like that, and screw around, divorce, use drugs and so on."
Do you know how they created the fossil record ? By using dated fossils, and after they numbered all the layers they don't need to date a fossil anymore, because they can see how old it is by looking in wich layer they found them.
So when carbon dating gives them several dates they pick out the one corresponding the layer....
Circular reasoning maybe ? Wake up my man, you're believing in a lie.
Thanks, i never knew the bible said all those things. They must be true then. I wish you could show that to some people in the atheist religion maybe the scientists will listen.
Amen to that ! But God bless you too for giving people like me the motivation to go on, posts like this make it all worth it. I really hope i'm chosen, i would go threw fire for our Lord, and i believe you would do the same !
Why is it funny that George Lemetra a Catholic priest was the founder of the theory? The Big bang actually helped our asses out of the pseudo-science of an eternal Universe, I don't see how you can begin to think the BB is wrong....
It is wrong as shown in the clip, it simply is impossible, and it's also against the Holy Bible, so why should i believe in something that didn't happen and also contradicts the Bible ?
Nooo, not in a live time, it would cost me my eternity if i ever get it :))))
Stars/moon/sun on day 4 ? Earth on day 1 ? If you believe the big bang theory you're stuck with that, and many many more...
"why would a catholic priest accept it if it was fake? "
Many catholic priests accepted things that go against the Bible.......like evolution......You shouldn't believe what others say about the Bible......You should read and understand it yourself....not believe others....that's the reason why so many things went wrong in the dark ages...
Wait, first of all Darwin was a fervent Protestant when he developed his evolution theory, he became an Agnostic later in his life after developing evolution. First of all the earth was created in day 2 (or 8- 12 billion years after the Big bang). The funny thing is that you think I'm crazy right now, but I realized that 1 day in the Bible is 8 billions years, it's complex but explained by Science and supported by jewish priests 1,500 years ago, it's no interpretation.
I have a question, how do I in any way try and sound wise? I'm 23, I don't think I'm very wise. I know much about Science, I'm trying to learn alot about Scripture, I have a long way to go. Though I write comments in in a fast manner and make many grammar mistakes, I think my comments have logical coherence. Yes, it doesn't take a guru, but I think you should take Agustine's advise on our interpretation of Genesis. There is more than just the 6 days, and the 6th day didn't mean humans as in us.
"For in these days [of creation] the morning and evening are counted until, on the sixth day, all things which God then made were finished, and on the seventh the rest of God was mysteriously and sublimely signalized. What kind of days these were is extremely difficult or perhaps impossible for us to conceive, and how much more to say!" -Agustine of hippo
The sublime words of one of the greatest philosophers and theologians of all time.
Well that's dangerous, day 1, he made the earth/light and so on, and after that it says, it was evening and morning and the first day came to an end, easy, the day existed of a evening and morning, and all that happened in that day......no problem for me.
The day had a evening and a morning, and it says what happened on that day.
No reason to think complex, just like the quote from Psalm i mentioned, it's simple, no need to have a Guru to tell you how it's written.
Adam sinned so he could die, and so everything could that considered to be ALIFE, so no plants offcourse, they didn't receive the breath of life, they grow, they don't life as animals and humans.
Simple !!!! People can make doctrines around it, but i find that dangerous.
And as far as EVILution, the Old testament states, before Adams sin there was no dead in the world, if he didn't sin he would have lived forever. So by taking that in acount it's impossible to place EVILution in Biblical context....how many animals whould have died before you could speak of Adam ????
Just as it says, "Threw Adams sin dead came into the world"
Easy !!!! No worry about interpretations, it says it, btw, EVILution is based on ssumptions. Check my other clips.
I was reading the play, Inherit the wind, and it seemed a little funny that I heard 'Evilution' outside of the play. Also please explain to me what death means? i don't think we're very clear on this, Death as in the soul or as in Physical Death, because Adam was told he would die if he ate form the apple, and he didn't die until he was 900 something (which can be taken differently as well). So physical death or spiritual death? I doubt animals have spirits or souls.
That you will die, also simple !!! You can't live forever on earth, you will die here some day.
"because Adam was told he would die if he ate form the apple"
Yep, and so he did die after more then 900 years, if he didn't eat it he would live forever ON EARTH.
"So physical death or spiritual death?"
physical offcourse, there is no spiritual death, because you will be in heaven for eternity or in hell for eternity, so your spirit will always remain.
I have to fear that you have beaten me, for now I can't really move any further with you, but I'll do alot more research and I'll be back to show you the light of evolution and the glorious plan of God.
No please, don't say that, i didn't beat you, i believe you'e VERY SMART, i'm not kidding...
I respect you, and your views, the only thing i try to do is explaining why that quote from Psalm is so important, God doesn't want us to have people to tell us how it's written.
It's for all of us, wise, and simple.
"but I'll do alot more research and I'll be back to show you the light of evolution and the glorious plan of God. "
Amen to that, and may God bless you. Thanks for the chat !
Amen brother, very strong quotes, indeed, God didn't wan't it only to be understand by the wise, the Bible is also for the simple, nobody has to be perfect to understand it.
THE BIBLE IS FOR EVERYONE WHO WANT'S TO BELIEVE !!!
So you didn't watch the clip carefully. The earth created before the stars ? Death before sin ?
Yes you are an creationst, an old earth creationist (OEC), but you're stuck with the fact that many things in the Bible speak against you, you can't go around it, impossible, when you believe in the Big Bang the earth couldn't be created first.....impossible
Ok. I was going to be lenient with this video. But then I saw how Arrogant you were that because the Bible says what it says it must be true and therefore Creationists win. Its like Hitler referring to his book "Mien Kampf".The jews are bad because his book said so. There is no Atheist religion. Atheism is a result. I do believe some events in the bible are true but there stretched truth.
I was taught in school that energy cannot be created or destroyed only transferred from 1 form to another. this means science teaches that energy is eternal according to secular sceintists which means the question who created God is stupid....
I agree, but also you do not leave the door open for mature people who would have constructive (or destructive) criticism...who could point out flaws in your arguments...it is not wise to only accept praise.
It is a trend that is growing in Youtube and does not permit open debate.
The reason why i began to make this series is to give people a fair chance to show them our side, without being manipulated with untrue statements made by Atheists, it's a trend in Atheismland these days to use allready debunked material, i will net allow them to comment like that.
Before you write anything, messages need to be approved, so when you try to use allready debunked arguments i will not allow them, i'm always interested in new facts !
I am Roman Catholic, and really believing in God and Jesus. but also i am believing of bing bang theory and evolution. Because this theories (proven by facts) show me what a wonderful universe is imagine that God most of live form making more perfect (read book "Counting God") Also dont need read Bible word to word.. Bible has more meaning then just reading word to word that also said Augustine of Hippo.
Edga777 8 months ago
if u look at both sides clearly you will see they are one in the same
casshash 9 months ago
Amazing stuff I agree and think this is the right type of debunking the evolutionist need to understand they are Gods people too.
clawedification 10 months ago
If he's wrong, and there is no God, and all there is is science, then how do you explain people being healed from uncurable diseases, sitings of apperitions, psychics, and wigi boards? Even if you Don't believe in God you have to admitt there is such a thing as the supernatural.
magicraker 10 months ago
This video is just too boring, especially with that same tune going on for 8 minutes.
Xentecks 11 months ago
Of course the Big bang theory is real, Come on a explosion turns into a circle of fire then some how fire turns into a circle of water then creates animals humans grasses tree;s Of course a big ball of fire has the power do that.
DatBoyJamil 1 year ago
how can people be pastafarians?what is that a new fred comedy?
videonfan 1 year ago
I would like to point out also that it is not possible to fit the entire universe in a space the size of a period on a page or smaller. I don't care how tightly you pack it, there is a limit as to how many atoms can exist in that small of a space. Sure, the universe could theoretically be shrunk to a much smaller size than it is now, but not that small.
5h0rgunn 1 year ago
@5h0rgunn ok- there were no atoms during the big bang. Atoms do not form until later. Also, what is this limit you speak of? Do you know the general properties of a black hole? The singularity- which is much much smaller than a period- can contain millions of solar masses. Im just curious as to where youi get your info from. Thanks.
juggaloryan3 1 year ago
in soviet russia big bang creates human and evolution creates man as well
videonfan 1 year ago
it's funny how they don't be;ieve in god because they don't see him(fake we all see) and believe in a shitball that they don't see as well
also how come from a shitball they universe be so great?
videonfan 1 year ago
it's funny that they don't believe in god because they don't see him or see clues(fake everyone sees anyway) and they believe in a shitball that neither have they seen it nor have they clues for it lulz
videonfan 1 year ago
We live in a tether pagan society so it's super that we still have people like this.
chunky1194 1 year ago
lol rediculus as hell...hihi I said hell ^_^
Harisdoubled 1 year ago
The big bang was the starting point of gods creation. You don't grow perfect flowers from thin air, a seed is planted that blossoms (evolves) into it's final form, a perfect flower with all of it's supporting sub-systems from the root up. Debate=over. Most scientists are religious, people forget. Scientists are merely curious reporters of his Devine methods, trying to get closer to Him.
rockbandmidi 1 year ago
@rockbandmidi , "The big bang was the starting point of gods creation"
The Bible contradicts that, sun on day 4, earth on day 1, morning evening on day 1/2/3, and also on the days from the moment the sun was created. This is the truth, the day was what it was and God didn't create Adam as an embryo either and put him in the garden of Eden.....
The Bible is the truth and it is clear, things are not created from zero, that's not how he works. Still, God bless you.
CreationistsWON 1 year ago
@CreationistsWON Please put down Ur Bibical Action Figures,stand up,back out of the sand box, turn around, LOOK...Guess what...WELCOME TO THE 21st Century...it is no longer 500bc or 660ad. Put down that Book of Bronze Age campfire stories of Myth and Wake Up. I love to break the news to U..but talking snakes,donkeys n burning bushes don't exist, nor can a man turn a stick into a snake. Grow up! This ISN"T Fantasy Land!!! Ur NOT IMMORTAL!! Hell is a Threat to Control Ur MIND!
123ilikecheese456 11 months ago
YOU are the one who needs to wake up. God is almighty and all powerful, so it is VERY EASY when He allows it to happen. He CAN turn a stick into a serpent. The serpent spoke because Satan was speaking through it. Hell is real, but it WAS NOT CREATE TO CONTROL OUR MINDS! Hell was made for the devil and the demons after they rebelled. Please, free your mind from the evil that atheism and secular education.
munku121 8 months ago
@munku121 You mean the education that teaches us how to produce new medicine and other medical treatment that can one day cure cancer and produce an vaccine against HIV?
Sweddude 8 months ago
@rockbandmidi Scientists are merely curious reporters of his Divine methods, trying to get closer to Him.
When done in earnest that is exactly what it is...........nicely said.
habfan24 1 year ago
I'm glad that you allow comments unlike many other creationists who show themselves to be cowards. They don't seem to get that atheists are laughing at creationists because of their refusal to let others comment. I'm a creationist, just so you know. You shouldn't have 'comments appending approval' though. No need to control what people say.
Lightmane321 1 year ago
you are like a creationist genius. God bless
xWhiteLightning 1 year ago
Good point at 3:59-Evolutionists like Thunderf00t constantly reiterate that rejecting naturalism somehow retards technological developments such as walking on the moon. This is shown in his "1000 years of creationist acheivements" video-Ironically the second guy who walked on the moon was a Creationist(Buzz Aldrin)-he started reading Genesis when he saw the earth from such a perspective. Naturalism and technology are very much unrelated.
Kalen1457 1 year ago
lol! funny video! why can't god use the big bang? you don't understand it. are you an astrophysicist? no.
pure creationism is so silly. like the contradiction between gen 1 n 2!
MaryStewart 2 years ago
"why can't god use the big bang?'
He could if he wanted to, he can do everything if he wants but it contradicts his very word in the Bible.
"re you an astrophysicist? no." Try to debunk the points I made or leave, don't be a little child.
"pure creationism is so silly. like the contradiction between gen 1 n 2! "
Gen 2 describes what's being created inside the garden of Eden, but you're to ignorant to understand that LOL, now go and troll me no more
CreationistsWON 2 years ago
@CreationistsWON yo Creationists i respect u man , abd everyone else who Believes in The Big Bang theroy : Life is full of questions our brains and SCIENCE cant answer.For example : Science ,How were WE HUMANS created . We Humans were created by God ... Who created God we dont know , Our brains and odern Knowledge cant understand that , we believe he was Just there
ITZURBOYBEBO 1 year ago
i find very funny how athiests are hell bent on making the big bang theory holy. where is there scientific credibelity. its proposed theory that could be wrong
reaperq88 2 years ago
I kinda agree with nyarlotep. And please forgive me if I offend, it is not the intention. Yes, naturalism is an assumption but so is God. We cannot prove God's existence. The evidence you speak of can be perceived differently by different people. You may see it as evidence of God, the person next you may see the same evidence as nothing more than a natural occurence and some may see it differently again. It's all about perception. Believe in God if you wish, I would rather just be open minded :)
BelieverOfDragons 2 years ago
the universe has significantly more gravity than what can be calculated from the observed mass. since matter is the only thing that has gravity it is logically concluded that there is something that has mass or something completely new. this thing is called dark matter. all scientists will freely admit that this is an unknown and are currently researching to find an answer.
please tell me what book, chaper and verse i can find an explination for dark matter. it will save years of research.
123GRRRR 2 years ago
what is this about pop 3 stars being around today? they wouldn't exist today they would of existed in history. astronomers are looking for them. we don't have all the answers but why stop trying to find em. scientists could give up and say god did it?
cruxbucket 2 years ago
it is not impossible to seek knowledge and believe in GOD at the same time. seek knowledge from cradle to grave. benificial science by itself is a deed
reaperq88 2 years ago
lol lame
mandangalo18 2 years ago
Great arguement for creationalism. Although you don't have to convince me about it. What I find interesting is that some Atheists actually that Christianity is absurd. This is exactly what I think of Atheistic ideas re the big bang. Total absurdity. Oh well they can't help being spiritually blind can they?
Eltsacwenify 2 years ago
Haha, i just read wanna fly saying were brainwashed! hahaha.
1. a method for systematically changing attitudes or altering beliefs, originated in totalitarian countries, esp. through the use of torture, drugs, or psychological-stress techniques.
2. any method of controlled systematic indoctrination, esp. one based on repetition or confusion: brainwashing by TV commercials.
Sounds like evolution propaganda (doesnt mean it is just sounds like it) to me.
BLUCOPPER123 2 years ago
dont u mean god the fairy tale versus the big bang :P
tsjuder12 2 years ago
Thank you brother !!!
CreationistsWON 2 years ago
atheism is wrong! (no offence im just speaking my mind) they dont belive in the lord and when you atheists die you will see the lord! what do you atheists think when you die? do you think that nothing will happen? if you see the lord then you know that atheism is wrong!
banjotenie 2 years ago
@banjotenie I'm looking forward to meeting him !
xxRockst4r 2 years ago
Well if I die and go to face the god in which I didnt believe when I lived then I would tell him I live a good life, I never harm other people and followed my sense of morality to make the world a better place for my family, friends and everyone I interact with. Then If I have to go to such place as Hell just because I didnt see evidence of this god's existence I would happily do so knowing that a heaven with a god that sends good people to suffer would not be a good place to live anyway.
nyarlotep 2 years ago
The wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
rkoliver1 2 years ago
WELL SAID BRO
modernrocks 1 year ago
@nyarlotep brother, you SEE the evidence, the Bible says that you are without excuse. No if's or but's.
Romans {1:20} For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, [even] his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse
Time to get saved ! Google 'jesus is savior how to be saved' ! God loves you very much indeed ! Remember, humanity is without excuse !
orlibonurb 1 year ago
Great vid brother!
SAUNDERSacts2618 2 years ago
Thank you brother !!!!
CreationistsWON 2 years ago
According to Christians like yourself, why would you even ask the question? You believe god has always been so therefore why would ask? looks like you are picking a fight at which you will lose. Im sick of bible quoters or should I say brainwashed people.
wanafly12 2 years ago
Number 1. Why did you write me? I never posted a comment to any of your vids. You asked...Want to take a stab at who invented God? My answer to that is very simple. Man made god, Im atheist, always will be. I will not debate you; I have found trying to debate against a Christian is like trying to debate with a child.
wanafly12 2 years ago
@wanafly12 and trying to fight with an atheist, is like fighting with the mentall challenged. wont get anywhere
BigD71889 7 months ago
@BigD71889 No, the Creationist IS the mentally challenged! Go look at the Richard Dawkins interview with Wendy Wright and you'll see what I mean.
SmervinMervin24 6 months ago
Great vid!
Rayburn96 2 years ago
Question for Christians: An agrument in your favour is the one that claims that God exists outside of time. That is, he is eternal. Now my question is this, if god does infact exist outside of time, then would it also be logical to claim that he has no thought process, no judgement process etc. A process is defined a change of something over TIME. Therefor how can something that exists outside of time interact/concern himself with uneternal beings, without a notion of a thought process. Thanks
PingerNz 2 years ago
Good question.
"then would it also be logical to claim that he has no thought process,"
What's logic for him ? The Bible clearly states that we can't think for him let alone say what's logic...we're bound to time so we can't think as if we weren't.
And the second question i would answer the same, but i would add this to it. He created time, therefore he can be everywhere at any moment. He actually created it so he's not bound to anything and can jump in whenever he want's, wherever he want's
CreationistsWON 2 years ago
God is a fairy tale =)
DanielBlueFist 2 years ago
DanielBlueFist - No God is real, the stuff people are adding to God wards are fairy tales and that's why God want us to seek him ourself and not be confuse by others.
MsCuriousCat 2 years ago
DanielBlueFist - God is real, the stuff you are hearing is fairy tales from man and that's why God want us to seek him ourself and not be confuse by others.
MsCuriousCat 2 years ago
homeboy over here fails to understand that simply proving god may exist does not mean HIS god is the correct one.
toolegit2quittttt 2 years ago
That comes down to scriptures, true. But even that points to Christianity if you look at Ancient Civilizations, cultures who recorded what happened like written in Genesis, Jewish Torah pointing to a Messias in the book of Isaiah/daniel, fulfilled in the coming of Christ, Islam fails terribly because it talks about the Bible and Torah to be holy, but rejects more than half of it...
Even threw historical evidences and scriptures it seems Christianity has the best numbers...
CreationistsWON 2 years ago
Are you sure the Bible you are referring to isn't actually the Torah? And could you provide that passage in the Koran, I happen to have a copy and Id like to see for myself.
MorphicStates 2 years ago
Read before you comment please, the Ot is a part of the Torah.
About Islam, here you go.
Muslims are commanded in the Quran to believe in the books of the Jews and the Christians, the Torah and the Injeel/bible (Surah 4, Al Nisa, verse 136)
'And if thou wert in doubt as to what We have revealed unto thee, then ask those who have been reading the book from before thee..' (Surah 10, Yunus, verse 94)
CreationistsWON 2 years ago
LOL, i see a typo i believe, the OT is a collection of several books from the Jewish Torah. But the fact is that the entire Torah is holy to Christians
CreationistsWON 2 years ago
'Say: O People of the Book! Ye have no ground to stand upon unless ye stand fast by the Law, the Gospel and all the revelation that has come to you from your Lord' (Surah 5, Al Ma'idah, verse 68)
CreationistsWON 2 years ago
Btw, false statements are not welcome here, i gave you a few quotes from the qu'ran, and as you may know the same book CLAIMS holy books cannot be edited, i didn't even mention historical evidences about the first gospels which were written many centuries before Mohammed even made these statements.
Debate is fine, but i will reject false statements.
CreationistsWON 2 years ago
Even if a theist (any) could prove a true supernatural deity (any) existed, that would be something. Still your points stands.
MorphicStates 2 years ago
Any supernatural force will leave some observable signature or natural effect of its presence unless it worked very hard to hide it, which quite a dick move on god's part. However
anubis2814 2 years ago
one day you christians will wake up and find out everything the atheist are saying is true. god is an invension of man, not the other way around
wanafly12 2 years ago
just because the athiest believe that they are right doesnt make them right idiot.
poxflaza 2 years ago
Want to take a stab at who invented God?
Rayburn96 2 years ago
And, for the religion of Atheism, we look at what? A big bang? How is that seen? LOL Or a theory...of evolution, hmmm, that one isn't seen either LOL Darwin didn't think...things thru, did he? LOL No doubt, Creator, God. Just look around, proofs all around. Even you. LOL :) Are proof. Got a mirror? Or do you really, really, really think, a blob, evolve, evlolve, evolved....and bang, it was a bigger blob, and then, oooops...man. how funny. :) And you think, religion is silly. LOL
renewd1966 2 years ago
How is it seen? Read up on it. You don't know anything, yet, you call it dumb.
What you say about Evolution is the final proof that you have no idea about what you are talking about.
What you say is the same as saying: "Well I haven't seen a toddler turn into a old man after a nights sleep, therefore, people don't age".
Hjernespreng 2 years ago
Renewd1966, Your ignorance is also extremely stunning.
Evolution is OBSERVED by watching micro evolution on animals with short life span in controlled environments(flies for instance).
Evolution is observed on skeleton records.
And many more.
Did you watch God create the universe?
Just shut your mouth, you don't know what you are talking about. Go back to school.
Hjernespreng 2 years ago
okay like you say evolution is observed with animals with a "short life span" in different invironments right?so that doesnt prove that they evolve it just proves that they adapt...and I have a question for all you athiests and people that believe in evolution okay Hjernespreng 'where did our oceans come from'? did planet earth just magically evolve water out of plain dust?
poxflaza 2 years ago
Poxflaza:
You said that animals "Adapt". This is essentially evoloution. Animals are born with very slight mutations in their genome which in a new environment can either be beneficial, meaningless or non-beneficial. Those with benificial mutations are more likely to survive than those without. If they are more likely to survive, they are more likely to mate and other animals with the same mutation will be born. This happens so much that the animal will become a new species. Google "Speciation"
covac45 2 years ago
Poxflaza:
As for the oceans, many astronomers believe that much of the oceans came from commets from space. If we agree that water is just a compund of hydrogen and oxygen, it is possible that it came from space, much like the rest of our atmostphere is just gas that has clung to our planet because of gravity. Water could crash into Earth in the form of ice and melt. It would account for the abundance of water on Earth and the giant holes on the Earths surface.
covac45 2 years ago
Comments are all allowed from now on, i see people are actually debating, i hope i can leave it like this. The only thing i ask in return, please respect each other no matter what your views are.
CreationistsWON 2 years ago
Just as silly as a man who created himself, then everything thing that can be seen. Just as silly as a gOd that openly speaks to a ancient back water society, but not to a more intelligent race of human like todays man. Looking at the majesty of the the ocean is only proof of salt water. Parry, Dodge, Thrust.
99virgo 2 years ago
if you guys wanna see a hoax just look at religion....thats a big money maker right there and they get it all for doing pretty much nothing but say that there is a dude who is suppose to clean you somehow...lol
Dshizzle420 2 years ago
You mean Atheism, look at the Dawkins cups and t-shirts LOL.
And those who used the Bible to make money were not doing it because of the scriptures bu because they were evil themselves.
CreationistsWON 2 years ago
You are right but did you know that not all christian denominations are accepted by God? How you can be sure your denomination is accepted? For example Jehova's witnesses believe that the number 666(the number of Satan) is a good thing and they don't believe Jesus Christ was God they believe Jesus was the archangel Michael incarnate.What denomination are you?
dorianmyrer21 2 years ago
"if god is god, why did it take six days? "
Why not ? Maybe he wanted to be an example for us, and look HE WAS, 7th rest, we still except it.
"or is that the limit to his power?"
Don't make fun of yourself please.
"if so, he's not so mighty now is he? "
Did that feel good ? He could do it in less than a nanosecond, even less than that, ask him, not me, i'm not God, but you don't believe in him, how come do you think that his power isn't without borders ?
Because of the 6 days ? Come on....
CreationistsWON 2 years ago
if god is god, why did it take six days? why not 5, or 4 or with the snap of a finger? i mean if hes god, then surely he could snap his fingers and create everything right? or is that the limit to his power? if so, he's not so mighty now is he?
loscrudos26589 2 years ago
"The devastating problem for the Big Bang actually is a powerful confirmation of Biblical creation"
How does the the lack of evidence for one idea demonstrate evidence for your god? You cannot use a negative to prove a positive, it is called basic logic.
sweatytoothmadman 2 years ago
That means that everything you people BELIEVE in contradicts itself, and that we were right from the beginning, a universe as ours has to be created, otherwise the laws itself would never ever let something logic to appear, even when you give it billions of years.
There has to be a creator, not because your side is wrong, but because we were right all along...
CreationistsWON 2 years ago
"Is the Big Bang the same science that put men on the moon or allows your computers to function"
Yes, we put men on the moon using physicals and chemistry, what do you think the Big Bang was based on?
sweatytoothmadman 2 years ago
"what do you think the Big Bang was based on? "
Well, no facts to be honest, you didn't watch the clip did you ? Please watch it and come back with a vengance.
I could ask you how come the matter/anti-matter problem would go against your big bang fairytale when your side admits there has to be a equal amount to get it working, but it would rapidly distroy each other when there would have been a equal amount.
Please, come with arguments, not with crap they served you on a golden plate...
CreationistsWON 2 years ago
damn you are good love you page
KIMBOSLICE66666 2 years ago
Thank you so much !!!!! Simply the truth, there can't be a big bang, no matter how much they want it.
CreationistsWON 2 years ago
welcome.......
KIMBOSLICE66666 2 years ago
agree!
sfpkent 2 years ago
I don't know if you have heard of it, but many scientist believe, (in a scientific way), that a singularity was the origin of the universe. Also, one theory is that the universe is expanding and eventually it will get to the point that life will no longer be able to survive. If this is true, why is it so depressing? We shouldn't try to cover truth up with happiness just to shield ourselves from what is reality.....Thank You :)
LilSkeptic 2 years ago
"We shouldn't try to cover truth up with happiness just to shield ourselves from what is reality"
Yeah, your right, like that the big bang never happened, we shouldn't close our eyes and believe that it did.
Nothing more than a believe, a fairy tale.
CreationistsWON 2 years ago
Also, the universe is about 12 billion years old, the age of the earth and our solar system is roughly around 4 and a half billion years old. How do we know this? Astronomers use mathematics and physics to date the oldest stars and they measure the rate of the expansion of the universe from the origin of the "big bang". The phrase "big bang" is a general statement for the origin of the universe.
LilSkeptic 2 years ago
"12 billion years old,"
Euuu no, it's not older than a few thoussand, make it 6, make it 6005, but nothing more than that.
"Astronomers use mathematics and physics to date the oldest stars and they measure the rate of the expansion of the universe from the origin of the "big bang"."
Yep, that's how we know how old it is right ? Did yhet reach the border yet ? Do they know anything about the space the time was traffeling in, the speed of light ? Always constant ?
No, they don't, they believe
CreationistsWON 2 years ago
"Euuu no, it's not older than a few thoussand, make it 6, make it 6005, but nothing more than that"
Actually we can use this crazy thing called Carbon dating to demonstrate the earth is older than 6,000 years which we cross reference with objects of known age. This has been done since the system of testing was first used.
sweatytoothmadman 2 years ago
Carbon dating isn't accurate, you should know your facts, it always craps different dates wich contradicts itself, sometimes with more than 200 % !!!! But you believe it to be accurate.
Like i said before, they use the fossil record to pick out the date corresponding a certain layer, but the layers itself are dated by fossils decades ago.
So what makes you think that the dates in those days were accurate enough so we could use a each layer as a standard ?
Again, you beliebe in a lie.
CreationistsWON 2 years ago
Not accurate says who and with what evidence? They are accurate, but they are not precise. Sure they do not know the exact date on the dot, but they do know the general time of these fossils.
LilSkeptic 2 years ago
Based on the fossil record the pick out the date, but the layers itself are organized by fossildates, strange isn't it.
And when its completely of the scale it means a hoax, that's how science works these days.
CreationistsWON 2 years ago
On the topic of evolution, where did things such as viruses come from??? A recent example would be Swine Flu. This virus mutated (evolved). Also if man was "created" the same time as everything else, what about the fossil records? Why are there no fossils of humans during the Jurassic, Cretaceous, etc etc periods?
LilSkeptic 2 years ago
"where did things such as viruses come from???"
Not from macro-evolution, i know that.
"This virus mutated (evolved)."
Micro evolution, we believe in that ...
"what about the fossil records?"
Fake, a worldwide hoax, there is no fossil record.
"Why are there no fossils of humans during the Jurassic, Cretaceous, etc etc periods? "
People know what they have to do when something like a flood would appear, animals have more problems, rapid berial, one of the reason why you less,
CreationistsWON 2 years ago
If they didnt come from macro-evolution where did they come from? Micro-evolution...if viruses are a result of micro-evolution that throws a big kink in god creating everything in six days doesnt it?
So the entire fossil record is fake??? Can I have some type of source for this material?
The fossil record is not the result of "Noah's Flood"
LilSkeptic 2 years ago
"big kink in god creating everything in six days doesnt it?"
Why ? He supernaturally created everything in 6 days, no problem at all.
"So the entire fossil record is fake???"
Yes, all of it, a worldwide hoax.
"Can I have some type of source for this material?"
Will you believe the source ? Or are you just asking this to give yourself a nice feeling ?
"The fossil record is not the result of "Noah's Flood"
Yes it is, and also the reason for all the diversities on remote areas...
CreationistsWON 2 years ago
Btw. they found giant bones that belonged to humans, but that contradicted your evil fossil record, so they've put them away.
In East Turkey you can still look at a giant human in a museum, near the border with Armenis.
Many found worldwide, but offcourse not half apes or something, that's a worldwide Hoax, only ment to give women the right to kill their baby's and stuff like that, and screw around, divorce, use drugs and so on.
CreationistsWON 2 years ago
Why is "my" fossil record evil? Are you so warped to believe that science over the past 150 years is completely out to destroy religion??? By the way where does your sources come from on this???
"
Many found worldwide, but offcourse not half apes or something, that's a worldwide Hoax, only ment to give women the right to kill their baby's and stuff like that, and screw around, divorce, use drugs and so on."
please explain all of this
LilSkeptic 2 years ago
"Why is "my" fossil record evil?"
Do you know how they created the fossil record ? By using dated fossils, and after they numbered all the layers they don't need to date a fossil anymore, because they can see how old it is by looking in wich layer they found them.
So when carbon dating gives them several dates they pick out the one corresponding the layer....
Circular reasoning maybe ? Wake up my man, you're believing in a lie.
CreationistsWON 2 years ago
awesome video! God bless you!
wildflower96 2 years ago
Thank you so much ! That makes it worth it !
God bless you too
CreationistsWON 2 years ago
u welcome! :)
wildflower96 2 years ago
Once again, Great video! You are mister smarty pants when it comes down to this kind of stuff, lol! Much respect, God Bless.
OrthodoxyIsTruth 2 years ago
"mister smarty pants" AHhahahahahaH !!!! Everything for our Lord !
What he did for us, let us Christians show him that there are people who are thankful to be part of this wonderful creation !
Thanks for all your kind comments
God bless you
CreationistsWON 2 years ago
HAhaahhahaha, yeah i allready watched your clips, great job man ! Keep on spreading the truth.
And indeed, we debunked them so many times now, its not even funny anymore !
God bless.
CreationistsWON 2 years ago
Thank you so much !
God bless you
CreationistsWON 2 years ago
Is there a text version of this video anywhere?
AlphaCrucis 2 years ago
No, just watch the clip :)))
CreationistsWON 2 years ago
Thanks, i never knew the bible said all those things. They must be true then. I wish you could show that to some people in the atheist religion maybe the scientists will listen.
velocityj 2 years ago
Thanks ! Even if you come with things like this they still wont listen ....
They will never listen, they will deny God by all means !
CreationistsWON 2 years ago
Amen to that ! But God bless you too for giving people like me the motivation to go on, posts like this make it all worth it. I really hope i'm chosen, i would go threw fire for our Lord, and i believe you would do the same !
Btw, thanks for the invite !!!
Love you in Christ
CreationistsWON 2 years ago
AMEN !!!!!!!!
God bless you
CreationistsWON 2 years ago
Why is it funny that George Lemetra a Catholic priest was the founder of the theory? The Big bang actually helped our asses out of the pseudo-science of an eternal Universe, I don't see how you can begin to think the BB is wrong....
ogirv101 2 years ago
It is wrong as shown in the clip, it simply is impossible, and it's also against the Holy Bible, so why should i believe in something that didn't happen and also contradicts the Bible ?
Nooo, not in a live time, it would cost me my eternity if i ever get it :))))
CreationistsWON 2 years ago
There is nothing in the Bible that contradicts Big bang theory, why would a catholic priest accept it if it was fake?
ogirv101 2 years ago
Stars/moon/sun on day 4 ? Earth on day 1 ? If you believe the big bang theory you're stuck with that, and many many more...
"why would a catholic priest accept it if it was fake? "
Many catholic priests accepted things that go against the Bible.......like evolution......You shouldn't believe what others say about the Bible......You should read and understand it yourself....not believe others....that's the reason why so many things went wrong in the dark ages...
You have the power to understand
CreationistsWON 2 years ago
Wait, first of all Darwin was a fervent Protestant when he developed his evolution theory, he became an Agnostic later in his life after developing evolution. First of all the earth was created in day 2 (or 8- 12 billion years after the Big bang). The funny thing is that you think I'm crazy right now, but I realized that 1 day in the Bible is 8 billions years, it's complex but explained by Science and supported by jewish priests 1,500 years ago, it's no interpretation.
God bless.
ogirv101 2 years ago
Sorry, Genesis states the world was created on the first day, as is the heaven...
"he funny thing is that you think I'm crazy right now"
No no, no offense, because you try to think as the wise want to think, that's why i quoted from psalm.
"it's complex but explained by Science and supported by jewish priests 1,500 years ago, it's no interpretation."
Again, you don't need a Guru to explain the days, it's simple.
day 1. earth/heaven
day 4. sun moon stars
day 6. humans
CreationistsWON 2 years ago
I have a question, how do I in any way try and sound wise? I'm 23, I don't think I'm very wise. I know much about Science, I'm trying to learn alot about Scripture, I have a long way to go. Though I write comments in in a fast manner and make many grammar mistakes, I think my comments have logical coherence. Yes, it doesn't take a guru, but I think you should take Agustine's advise on our interpretation of Genesis. There is more than just the 6 days, and the 6th day didn't mean humans as in us.
ogirv101 2 years ago
"try and sound wise?"
Sorry no offense, it would be better if i said, you want to think to complex...excuse me for that !
"I think my comments have logical coherence."
Yes, i agree, Hugh Ross made a entire website about your thoughts.
"There is more than just the 6 days, and the 6th day didn't mean humans as in us. "
Well, it's written that he made a man out of the sand and a woman out of the man, so that's it . Not very hard for me to understand.
Eve ate an apple, she ate it !!
CreationistsWON 2 years ago
"For in these days [of creation] the morning and evening are counted until, on the sixth day, all things which God then made were finished, and on the seventh the rest of God was mysteriously and sublimely signalized. What kind of days these were is extremely difficult or perhaps impossible for us to conceive, and how much more to say!" -Agustine of hippo
The sublime words of one of the greatest philosophers and theologians of all time.
ogirv101 2 years ago
Yep, but that doesn't make it true....
"God was mysteriously and sublimely signalized"
Yep, the unnatural things he did concerning the creation stopped, i agree, everything he did before that was beyond nature.
"For in these days [of creation] the morning and evening are counted until"
CreationistsWON 2 years ago
Well that's dangerous, day 1, he made the earth/light and so on, and after that it says, it was evening and morning and the first day came to an end, easy, the day existed of a evening and morning, and all that happened in that day......no problem for me.
CreationistsWON 2 years ago
The day had a evening and a morning, and it says what happened on that day.
No reason to think complex, just like the quote from Psalm i mentioned, it's simple, no need to have a Guru to tell you how it's written.
Adam sinned so he could die, and so everything could that considered to be ALIFE, so no plants offcourse, they didn't receive the breath of life, they grow, they don't life as animals and humans.
Simple !!!! People can make doctrines around it, but i find that dangerous.
CreationistsWON 2 years ago
And the sin of Adam that brought dead in the world is completely placed in a entire doctrine !!!!
You can't fit the Bible in other things, you should fit other things in the Bible, that's what i believe to be the true way
CreationistsWON 2 years ago
And as far as EVILution, the Old testament states, before Adams sin there was no dead in the world, if he didn't sin he would have lived forever. So by taking that in acount it's impossible to place EVILution in Biblical context....how many animals whould have died before you could speak of Adam ????
Just as it says, "Threw Adams sin dead came into the world"
Easy !!!! No worry about interpretations, it says it, btw, EVILution is based on ssumptions. Check my other clips.
Amen brother.
CreationistsWON 2 years ago
I was reading the play, Inherit the wind, and it seemed a little funny that I heard 'Evilution' outside of the play. Also please explain to me what death means? i don't think we're very clear on this, Death as in the soul or as in Physical Death, because Adam was told he would die if he ate form the apple, and he didn't die until he was 900 something (which can be taken differently as well). So physical death or spiritual death? I doubt animals have spirits or souls.
ogirv101 2 years ago
"explain to me what death means?"
That you will die, also simple !!! You can't live forever on earth, you will die here some day.
"because Adam was told he would die if he ate form the apple"
Yep, and so he did die after more then 900 years, if he didn't eat it he would live forever ON EARTH.
"So physical death or spiritual death?"
physical offcourse, there is no spiritual death, because you will be in heaven for eternity or in hell for eternity, so your spirit will always remain.
CreationistsWON 2 years ago
I also make many grammer errors :)))). only a Atheist would use that to discredit the other !!!
CreationistsWON 2 years ago
I have to fear that you have beaten me, for now I can't really move any further with you, but I'll do alot more research and I'll be back to show you the light of evolution and the glorious plan of God.
ogirv101 2 years ago
No please, don't say that, i didn't beat you, i believe you'e VERY SMART, i'm not kidding...
I respect you, and your views, the only thing i try to do is explaining why that quote from Psalm is so important, God doesn't want us to have people to tell us how it's written.
It's for all of us, wise, and simple.
"but I'll do alot more research and I'll be back to show you the light of evolution and the glorious plan of God. "
Amen to that, and may God bless you. Thanks for the chat !
CreationistsWON 2 years ago
haha, you'd be surprise how far people of any religion or lack thereof would go to discredit an argument
iamnotloggedon 2 years ago
I'm not telling you to go and believe this either, i just open a door for you, so you can explore more then others told you.
At the end of the 'day' you're the one who's gonna be the judge about your own thoughts, and later God will be the judge over you...
Psalm : 119:130
"The unfolding of your words gives light, it gives understanding to the simple"
6 days, are just 6 days, earth before the sun/moon stars ? Yep, just as it says.
Amen.
CreationistsWON 2 years ago
Amen brother, love that Psalm verse, it reminds me alot of Newton's and Einstein's scientific philosophy of simplicity. Newton said:
"Nature is pleased with simplicity, and affects not the pomp of superfluous causes" -Isaac newton (protestant, greatest scientist of all time)
Einstein said:
'when the awnser is simple, God is awnsering" -Albert Einstein (Deist, second or third greatest scientist of all time, competing with Maxwell.)
ogirv101 2 years ago
Amen brother, very strong quotes, indeed, God didn't wan't it only to be understand by the wise, the Bible is also for the simple, nobody has to be perfect to understand it.
THE BIBLE IS FOR EVERYONE WHO WANT'S TO BELIEVE !!!
CreationistsWON 2 years ago
I'm a creationist and the Big Bang is the best evidence we have that creation occurred.
You must be an atheist disnfo agent.
bigwhammyRocks 2 years ago
So you didn't watch the clip carefully. The earth created before the stars ? Death before sin ?
Yes you are an creationst, an old earth creationist (OEC), but you're stuck with the fact that many things in the Bible speak against you, you can't go around it, impossible, when you believe in the Big Bang the earth couldn't be created first.....impossible
CreationistsWON 2 years ago
Ok. I was going to be lenient with this video. But then I saw how Arrogant you were that because the Bible says what it says it must be true and therefore Creationists win. Its like Hitler referring to his book "Mien Kampf".The jews are bad because his book said so. There is no Atheist religion. Atheism is a result. I do believe some events in the bible are true but there stretched truth.
I do enjoy Religion people are fighting strong.
Prosperity to you friends.
zexion1 2 years ago
The title says "God versus the Big Bang fairy tale"
What did you expect my man ? The Bible versus the fairy tale called the Big Bang...
CreationistsWON 2 years ago
I was taught in school that energy cannot be created or destroyed only transferred from 1 form to another. this means science teaches that energy is eternal according to secular sceintists which means the question who created God is stupid....
romanempiresucks 2 years ago
hitler wrote mien kampf creationists didnt write the bible or at least the creationists that did have been dead a long time.
I dont understand what you mean by "I do enjoy Religion people are fighting strong.
Prosperity to you friends." its bad grammer can you explain?
romanempiresucks 2 years ago
Why is the rating disabled?
matias2309 2 years ago
There are more people who disagree because they like to screw around, they would rate it 1 star anyway, so i'm not giving them a chance !
CreationistsWON 2 years ago
I agree, but also you do not leave the door open for mature people who would have constructive (or destructive) criticism...who could point out flaws in your arguments...it is not wise to only accept praise.
It is a trend that is growing in Youtube and does not permit open debate.
matias2309 2 years ago
"who could point out flaws in your arguments"
The reason why i began to make this series is to give people a fair chance to show them our side, without being manipulated with untrue statements made by Atheists, it's a trend in Atheismland these days to use allready debunked material, i will net allow them to comment like that.
"it is not wise to only accept praise."
Nope., i do allow it, but not false statements
"does not permit open debate. "
Atheists wanted it this way ...
CreationistsWON 2 years ago
:))))., that would be enough, you got WAY to much creativity my man !!
God bless
CreationistsWON 2 years ago
Yes, there is just to much to debunk, don't wait to long, others are going away with the debunked stuff. It's opening season !!!
CreationistsWON 2 years ago
Thanks ! Took me a while to make, but here it is !
CreationistsWON 2 years ago
Thanks man, i hope you enjoyed it !
CreationistsWON 2 years ago
True, they are !!! A worldwide HOAX, that's what it is !
CreationistsWON 2 years ago
Nice, very nice video.
Oooh da komt wa goed met oe mien jong!
aramean25 2 years ago
sank you sank you ! Ik kom er wa ! Komt allemaal goed mie jong....
CreationistsWON 2 years ago
Before you write anything, messages need to be approved, so when you try to use allready debunked arguments i will not allow them, i'm always interested in new facts !
Peace.
CreationistsWON 2 years ago