Sick bed of Chculainn

[1984aftermath]

Pogues and a drinking song, no way!

Get's political here! So the english killed a king! congratulations! what else have you acomplished? Guess I could cite a few, thanks.

As for Northern Ireland and those fantastic lines the British drew on maps so well! I've had experieneces abroad and at home where the biggest argument (Catholic and Protestant) was not over your stupid political boundaries but what the best whisky is. I've seen more loyalty to Ireland on both sides. The way it should be.

[bristolcityifcation]

WHAT A TUNE!!

[tcmartin1]

@richjohnf: In regards to the scenario that you mentioned regarding what would happen if you asked people in a bar who Northern Ireland belongs to, I'll grant that most of the Irish Catholics and British Protestants would disagree. This disagreement might even lead to violence. However, I'd be willing to bet you a large sum of money that the person who would most likely take a beating would be the one who asked the question. Neither of these groups appreciate outsiders stirring up trouble.

[tcmartin1]

@richjohnf: If you look at the statistics on declining IRA and loyalist militia membership (which was never more than a few thousand to begin with), the statistics on the gradual decline in their violence since the mid-1970s, make note of the fact that nearly all these groups have officially declared a ceasefire, and make note of the contempt that both Irish and English seem to have towards American rabble-rousers, the only logical conclusion is that most of the English and Irish want peace.

[tcmartin1]

@richjohnf Based on the facts cited in my previous post (which you can verify through a simple Google search), posts made on YouTube forums like this one by people who claim to be from Ireland or England, and comments made to me by a personal friend who is from England, I stand by my belief that the vast majority of the English and Irish want to move beyond old prejudices and grievances...and simply desire to co-exist in peace.

[tcmartin1]

@richjohnf The Irish and the English haven't been at war with each other since 1922, when the Irish War of Independence ended. The violence of the 1970s/80s/90s was due to the activities of terrorists organizations (e.g., the PIRA, RIRA, and CIRA on the Republican side, and the UVF and UDA on the Loyalist side). According to the sources I've encountered, the current membership of all these groups combined is only a few thousand people...and all of these groups have since declared a ceasefire.

[Loki2488]

every men on earth wishes to be irish!

but neither are u american bastards, who think that paddys day is only about getting pissed and never bet on horse races.

i'm german and i wish to be irish like nothing else, but i'm no better!

erin go bragh to the true men of the world!

[tcmartin1]

@Jeanoid: I wasn't trying to start a fight with beamerball666.  Rather, I was just trying to answer his question. I have to admit, however, that my response may have been a bit on the "aggressive" side. You're exactly right...this song is about drinking and camaraderie, not Irish nationalism. In that spirit, if the three of us were in a pub somewhere right now, I'd offer to buy drinks for the both of you. :-)

[Jeanoid]

Also,iIf ye want to hear some really good Irish trad, look up the Highland Sessions on youtube, especially Mo Ghile Mear, some of the best Irish trad singers singing one of the best Irish ballads (in Irish, but you get the gist of it from the feeling the singers put in to it).

[Jeanoid]

Anyway, a song is a song, doesn't matter where it comes from if you enjoy it, that's the beauty of it!

[Jeanoid]

@tcmartin and beamerball666: I don't see what ye're fightin over. This song is about drinking to excess, something which we Irish do very well (I am from Ireland by the way), not about Irish Nationalism. Also, it's a protest to prejudices of all sorts (I'll sing a song of liberty for blacks and packs and jocks). And as well, for all you stuck-up Irish trad-heads, most of our most beloved songs have come back from America, they kept the tradition alive when we didn't give a shit

[kevingeorge420]

man just remember its a great song.

[tcmartin1]

@beamerball666: Just to follow up a little on what I was trying to say, I suspect that many Irish folks might react to American comments about hating the Brits and wanting to fight for Ireland similarly to the way I might react to an Irish person who told me (as a southern American), "Hey man, I don't like black folks or northerners. We've got a lot in common, don't we?" Can you understand why I'd immediately think "Get lost, you ignorant dumbass."?

[tcmartin1]

@beamerball666: Somebody from Ireland would obviously be more qualified to answer your question than me...but I'm going to speculate that many Irish are irritated when Americans make remarks about "hating the Brits." I suspect that it comes off as both ignorant and condescending. Ignorant because most of the Irish and English are trying to move past ancient animosities and prejudices. Condescending because it implies that Irish respect can be cheaply earned.

[beamerball666]

Seriously why do people who are Irish dislike Irish Americans so much on a lot of boards all over the internet it just seems like a lot of you have a deep hatred almost of us I really don't get it and it seems you dislike us even more if we say that we would be more willing to fight for Ireland than America but for me that'd be a split decision though if Ireland&Britain were fighting&America joined in I'd have no problem fighting against the side the brits would be on

[inkandmercury]

Not to be all contrary to distortedeskimos, I appreciate the hell out of young pouge fans, but Dirty Old Town is actually a cover, the song was written by Ewan MacColl. I think Shane McGown may be one of the greater songwriters of our time, but he didn't write dirty old town.

[roberts1966]

@inkandmercury

A song stolen. Its about the working class english from the Bradford mills.

England, the place where we invented a class- the Working Class. England- the crucible of the Class War.

The english Working Class with their trade unionist organisational skills influenced history a lot more than is appreciated. We invented the strike as a political weapon. Before that we rioted on such huge scale that would put any modern day riots to shame. We killed a king.

[aztecman1000]

hey all you fuckers enough with the rude comments this song kicks ass and 7 people are going to get there asses kicked whose with me

[joecoyote42]

Ah c'mon lads just quit it. Everyone just join in and dance around the room because we are all in this together.

[iampunitan]

quite a lot of you are still posting comments that are anti irish or english -you are living in the past- my generation has no bad feelings towards the irish -and i hope the guys and girls across the sea feel the same,and do not hate us english for shit that our government and upper class have done in the past -some of the old timers want to carry on the hatred but it's just a load of bollocks..we have all got better things to do .fuck the past and fuck the maps-brave new world or bust

[bigirishgingerballs]

jordam webster

[woodsypleb]

Great Stuff! Never get a little bit sick of listening to you guys. Been a fan for years, since first hearing you in the mid-eighties. One Aussie who loves your stuff.

[easylyrics3]

Hey guys, you can find the LYRICS @ EasyLyrics . org/?artist=Pogues&title=The+S­ick+Bed+Of+Cuchulainn

[Jorindevil]

Indeed, one of the best songs ever!

[NorthantsNick]

I remember this song first time round,taken from the album "Rum Sodomy And The Lash".

Go out and buy it,esp for the track entitled "And The Band Played Waltzing Matilda".....bloody excellent.

Their first album "Red Roses For Me" is also worth getting.

[donkey1966]

AS GOOD AS IT GETS

[Traitorfish]

If not better.

[Certex]

One of the best songs EVER FUCKING WRITTEN.

[wikkerman78]

you all just need too drink some booze and listen to this glorious song, Cheers!!!!!

[rmb04008]

youre all losers. thats pretty clear. especially yarbloko, who clearly has no future.

[d33pS3Ad1v3r]

i'm less of a loser though, which kind of makes me a winner.

[grandhigh9]

He`s actually Brazilian. Trust me. He was born in Rio to a drunken Bulgarian mother and an immigrant Rasta called Geoff Pudding.. Its true.

[kingmunkeh]

ha ha, that'd be a bit more interesting

[Ssolvarain]

"Rasta called Geoff Pudding"

rofl

Good tune.

[btwells72]

Frank Ryan bought you whiskey in a brothel in Madrid.................

...

..

things could have gone better in Spain... ask Orwell

[poguemahone322]

ireland is by far the best country in me own opinion

i have a lot of irish in me

an im extremely proud of it

i plan to move there someday to

erin go bragh

[hillman39]

Born in England.Irish blood.He's as Irish as Murphys stout.You can take a man out of the field,but you can never the field out of the man.

[d33pS3Ad1v3r]

go look up the word 'diaspora' and add it to your vocab, you wretched fucking mongoloid.

[d33pS3Ad1v3r]

HA yourself. I was born in Ireland and still live here.

Come and track me down Mr Internet Tough Guy Mongoloid Fag Dude.

[MedicalOfficer]

This song was playing on the television not too long ago, and it was driving my mother mad, so I looked it up to play it over and over again. Quietly, though. I quite like this song.

[neohip]

Brown ale makes you fat.

Take it from me!.

[StevieGo0o]

really?

i will blame that for my belly then...

[distortedeskimos]

Sometimes i wish I was Irish. Ireland is the best country in the world!! such beautiful countrysides....im only 14 and I find the pogues are awsome!!! Also the Dubliners. (Dirty old town is my favourite song of the pogues)

[neohip]

The Irish are just like everone else.

With better traditional music.

[StevieGo0o]

good drinks too

[neohip]

I am sad to say I find Guinness not to my taste,but if you pour coke over a tipple of rum fast enough,you get that same lovely head of cream,and a better drink!.

[StevieGo0o]

wow, nice tip haha

thanks, still think id prefer a pint

[neohip]

I wasnt refering to a measure,but since you started it....

A Pint of rum is better than a pint of of best bitter to tjhe power of x6.alchohol content.

This is why I no longer have time for beer!.

[StevieGo0o]

ahh i really dont like sprits all that much, the taste brings back the gag reflex from past experiances, well ill drink it... but not as much

im a brown ale man

[ARMINIUS44]

@distortedeskimos Ireland is indeed a fine place when the sun shines, btw the dirty old town in question was Salford /England where the sun never shines...

[S3An2O1O]

@distortedeskimos it indeed boy.. im irish and im 14 an i tell ya one thing i wouldn mind goin ta america either ;)

[roberts1966]

@distortedeskimos

Fucking arsehole of the world, thats ireland. Englands first colony when we were still practacing. Fucked that one up and then went to America. And then we really fucked up- just look at the shit hole. Still, we did quite well with India and the rest of the world.

[bollockowithalob]

@roberts1966

Cymru/Wales was England's first colony.

Roman Catholic did Ireland in.

Good day

[CtanOutcast]

@roberts1966

yeah and its the scots and the irish regiments that were bled dry to build your fucking hypocritical empire they were sent into the guns and made the empire for you because the english are pussies and would have broken

[SoiCowboy2]

Why do Americans even bother trying to understand? Ignore them.

'Frank Ryan bought you whiskey in a brothel in Madrid'......one of my fave Pogues lyrics.

[shakeahand1]

Shane and The Gang ROCK in a totally unique way.

[Donegaldan]

Guys lighten up and enjoy the music

[MrSeymour77]

Its nothing to do with brits or yanks , the new enemy of Irish freedom is the E.U !

[airman317]

Last time I checked the new proposed EU constitution was overturned because of the Irish last year.

[malarky321]

but there are still good irishmen over here and we've been suportive of ireland and the republic for a long time...and thats the problem nycbred92

[Blackadderthefourth]

they only went to america because they were starving due to the british empires short sightedness not because hey thought it was easier and better in america but because they eanted something to eat.

[jackdiesal666]

So, they didn't go to America because they thought it was better, they went to America because they were starving and needed a better place to go which happened to be America? Your logic if fail

[1337Yazman]

Awesome song.

[chantdelouve]

5*****

[billythemanc]

its about coming of the drink.delirum tremors=dt's message for all stay pissed,ask shane,lol

[malarky321]

the Hound of Ulster

[CrackBadger52]

I learned about this Chuculan lad in history class. He was a fuckin hero this lad.

[Scaredforlife0]

Jezus, you only learned out Chuculan in History? Has yer dad not taught you a thing?!

[chrisdxuk]

bloody great never heard it before

[malarky321]

a position we will all end up in...best thing is to have good stories to go out with:)

[burger137]

one of the funniest songs i ever heard

[zuton100]

Rum Sodomy And The Lash is a great album .

[Talkinhorn]

Yep!

[BlueMike10]

Can't wait to piss myself in frankfurt when i go . . . i'll be thinking of this top tune

[bonghitt]

make sure u dont get siff down in cologne

[billyshitcheese]

i believe it's syph., or syphilis.

[bonghitt]

yeh i know mate just lazy speller,thanks for err pointing that out tho.

[notquitealex]

Heheh.

[voidnothing]

Get Frank Ryan to buy you whiskey.

[PogueMahoneCoG]

Its about a Spanish Civil War vet and his life after escaping Spain

[aaronb01]

fucking blackshirts cursing yids as usual, hahah

[NorCalGustav]

could anyone tell me what exactly this song is about? thanks !

[zebedee771]

It's a lament for a dead friend where the singer is remembering all the good times they had together.

[RMC1989]

It's about the Sick bed of Cuchulainn

[DAIRISHDAVID]

I would agree with Zebedee more

[dbx42dot1]

try the green spot

[stuthehistoryguy]

I only wish I had the courage to lead the life described by this song.

To fight for justice and liberty regardless of the consequences, to stand by by principles regardless of sacrifice, to be righteous regardless of glory.  Let this be my epitath.

[bunnyboy80]

Me too!!

[bhopp88]

and to get shitfaced afterwards?

[stuthehistoryguy]

Damn straight, bhopp.

[uclrichard]

i'm going to a funeral tomorrow - jesus shane, thanks for this reminder of a life of booze, fags, anger and sex. yer waster ye....never forget ye...(and i'm english!)

[d33pS3Ad1v3r]

anger ? waster ? ....waster ?

please be sure to upload your recordings, poems, songs etc so we can see who the waster is.

ponce.

[TwIsTeDbLaZe]

XD English? Turn this song off you tea sucking biscuit fucker

[shedtic]

Shut yer yankee mouth. You're even more foreign than the Brits.

[nycbred92]

shove a cock in yous ya nancy last i checked it was the brits who starved a million irish men women and children to death, and heratlessly evicted poor survivors en masse . in face of that almost anyone who could fled the counry did, and most fled to america.once in america many of the irish kept their culture proudly and aided revolutionary efforts of ireland against englalnd in later years.i live in NYC and im proud as hell to be irish, which i am so get john bull's dick out of your ass

[shedtic]

Shut your mouth you silly little yankee man. I'm actually Irish, unlike you who had a great great great great grandad who knew an Irishman.

Yankees weren't exactly friends of the Irish so don't give me that crap. Some of the Heroes of the Irish rebellions were partly English by parentage. Do your homework then comment you wee yankee wanker.

Incidentally, ''Irish American'' culture is about as close to ''Irish culture'' as ''Jewish American'' or ''Polish American''.

[nycbred92]

right that makes alot of sense the hundreds of thousands of irish who immigrated to america all of a sudden lost their culture when they touched the shore and turned against their mother country.

i will say that a great part of the country is fucked up and despicable and i hate them more than you do as i have to live with their legacy as fat retards, but there are still good irishmen over here and we've been suportive of ireland and the republic for a long time.

[shedtic]

I don't hate Americans. I was calling you kids yankees to show you that hateful little stereotypes work both ways.

Irish people who went to America had a fucking rough time of it, and a lot went over as slaves. They went there because they had no choice, not because they thought America was nicer.

[d33pS3Ad1v3r]

No. Not 'all of the sudden', over time. Born in America = you're american. The environment makes the man, not the blood. There are black dudes here that are more Irish than you'll ever be.

Sorry to bust your bubble, homie.

[Traitorfish]

Which does lead you to wonder why the English-born singer featured in the above song spent so much time harping on about being Irish...

[d33pS3Ad1v3r]

have you got a map ? or an atlas ?

well if you do, have a look at it. You probably don't have a compass, so you can probably use your fingers... use a finger to measure the shortest point between england and ireland. Now, use the same finger to measure to the shortest point between america and ireland. Noticed anything? there's probably a 'legend' on your map which will help you decipher the distance in miles/km. Now, take the finger and stick it as far up your festering arsehole as possible

[Traitorfish]

Oh, grow up.

[roger09doger]

@d33pS3Ad1v3r Lol,and by the way this song is scottish.

[d33pS3Ad1v3r]

@roger09doger

Serglige Con Culainn is most assuredly irish.

get your facts straight homie, or provide compelling evidence to the contrary.

[kaylasuerich77]

@roger09doger Cú Chulaind, is an Irish mythological hero who appears in the stories of the Ulster Cycle, as well as in Scottish and Manx

[nycbred92]

@d33pS3Ad1v3r why dont you use your fingers to county how many irishmen you killed through famine and war and well use our fingers to count the money and guns we sent back to kill ya

[d33pS3Ad1v3r]

@nycbred92

you use your fingers to count ? Why does that not surprise me. Kill yourself.

[cameljoe212]

@d33pS3Ad1v3r this makes no sense. I guess idiots will thumbs up anything. if your knocking on the Irish you can just fuck off. The whole country, including the women and little girls, could kick your ass.

[d33pS3Ad1v3r]

@cameljoe212

another fucking american moron. what a surprise.

I'm irish. Now kill yourself you fucking mongoloid.

[cameljoe212]

@d33pS3Ad1v3r Im in Armagh, come get your head knocked

[d33pS3Ad1v3r]

@cameljoe212

Wherever you're pretending to be, you're a shit-eating mongoloid and of that there's no doubt.

[cameljoe212]

@d33pS3Ad1v3r Whatever chicken shit. Come on down to Red Neds on Ogle Street this Saturday around seven. Ask for the American, but I have a feeling you will know who I am pretty quick. Look forward to knocking out your teeth.

[d33pS3Ad1v3r]

@cameljoe212

You're the internet tough guy here, so you come to me. Come down to Moyross in Limerick, ask anyone for Hatchetts O'Neil and they'll point you to my house. Bring lubricant.

[cameljoe212]

@d33pS3Ad1v3r im still waiting to beat your face in.....

[d33pS3Ad1v3r]

@cameljoe212

I gave you the directions, so whenever you manage to take your fat ass out of the states and all the way to ire-land for your vacation...I'm not far from shannon airport.

[cameljoe212]

@d33pS3Ad1v3r Yawn.... come on down to Ogle or shut up

[d33pS3Ad1v3r]

@cameljoe212

you know where to find me Mr Internet Tough Guy.

[cameljoe212]

@d33pS3Ad1v3r Already been, not a motherfucker there knew any asshole named hatchetts

[Susielikesit]

@d33pS3Ad1v3r Hehe...ouch! I'm an irish descendant living in Nova Scotia. As far as the distance between us and Ireland... its what's in your heart, how you're raised and being taught about your own heritage and culture. Everyone wants to be Irish! It's such a little place with such big "fight"....who wouldn't?

[TwIsTeDbLaZe]

@shedtic I love how you native fuckers love to forget where the money to fund the Irish revolution came from. I'll give you a hint: it was from families like mine who got jobs in america and sent money back to help the cause. You wanna hate irish-americans? Go for it, people with your mindset are just pretentious eurofags like all the rest

[Marxshmallow]

Lol, you and I aren't Irish, we're Irish-American

You're just gonna piss off the Irish saying that. Irish-American culture is like diet-Irish culture. The plastic paddy shits embarrassing.

[Angotharix]

well said

[vkiddos]

sally maclennane is the best but this comes a close second

[eckmacdonald]

Best pogues tune of em all!

[yissusg]

I agree - along with Dirty old town

[clifflindsey]

pair of brown eyes

[imnotaballer]

body of an american. the best, although this comes pretty bloody close

[imnotaballer]

i think body of an american is up there too

[8796andrew]

best fuckin band by far!!!-brilliant phillosipher shane mcgowan-bring on the ale m8,dont worry your a legend m8!

[LemonSneakers]

'Tis about alcoholism, right? Makes me want to dance. I love The Pogues, they mixed The Clash-like music with Irish folk which is awesome!

[shebbie3]

drinking jameson and listnin to the pogues , now thats livin

[theovdhurk]

Im drinkin jameson to shebbie3 but it does taste like piss for an irish whiskey you need to admitt. You a north american too i assume though so i don't blame you cause thats all we can get easily out here. Id kill for some powers

[paulgallagher13]

classic

[praskovia13]

great lyrics, up the Pogues!

[dbx42dot1]

one of the best songs known to mankind, 74 hours.

[crackityjonestowned]

hey wildwagon! a shoutout from a newcastle to new york transplant! whattayat hey!?

[wildwagon]

loved the pogues from years ago love them all,from smylie in banbridge town in the co.down

[richiemaryport77]

fucken corker

[Bradius123]

What Joy...cracking tune :)

[Kathaarsis]

It's 2:30am and I meant to go to bed at 11.

[jedmilleruk]

we care about this why?

want a cookie??

do 34 hrs straight no sleep then brag, and even then, 34 is NOTHING ive known people to do over 50

[Kathaarsis]

Yeah, actually.  I like cookies.

[RowenMorland]

gosh Jed, does care

[brianbuck13]

u are quite a hero

[arianvynn]

Hells, I want it on my funeral :))))!

[DwnAszPunk]

Here here, up the Pogues

[dbx42dot1]

cheers mates!

[PHUCKS68]

a song to drink to on any occasion.

[lfcovesen]

Pure fucking class!

[123videos456]

tis a shame for cuchulainn would be none happy of the state of affairs in ulster, after the flight of the earls and the ulster plantations for what they became today

[tinners14]

savage boi.

shane mcgowan,

legend.

[haggismchaggis]

i can play the tin whistle part....big challenge!!! hahaha ... great song

[fatbap]

CUCHULAINN!

[mick4eire]

grand song darrin, i got this on an old pogues LP! fukin class

[siobhanshamrock]

Darren, congratulations on ur choice of song lol. keep it up!!

[inkpink]

they took you up to midnight mass and left you in the lurch, So you dropped a button in the plate ; and you spewed up in thechurch !

[ryanthfc]

pure class love it!

[B0BBYSANDS]

i want some food. i'm bloody starving

[darrin42]

lol you fucking bolox

[IrishDaragh]

where did u get this osng Darren loool

[darrin42]

lol Limewire lad. Good one isent it

[kilkennykat]

Yeah another song that makes me want to down a few pints. thanks lad.