Muslims, ever heard of brackish water? I'm proud to have been born in Stockholm because in our "Stockholm song" we sing "a mixture of sweet and salt (water)" because that's what the water is like in Stockholm, a mix between fresh water and salt water.
@LibertyCityMayhem95 Okay...listen(/read) . Religion is irrationellt, humans are irrationell their fore the only rationol thing is human beliving in a religion.
I would submit that whenever one adult human being looks to another for "leadership," he or she is making the same fundamental errors as those who crave organized religion. People need to grow up and take responsibility for their own actions - and I mean that in a real way, NOT the way it is stated by the fanatics of the Amerikan right, who are perhaps the craziest of all.
Wtf, this is almost like propaganda. Taking up everything bad about religion and realy making it seem absurd and irrational, and not balencing it with eventuall good things that religion has brought. So that you can see "proos and cons". I dont realy like Dawkins, buz of his black and white view against religion
@FlyingVSnow "Taking up everything bad about religion and making it seem absurd and irrational" ? Religion is absurd and irrational by nature, and is innately evil and used for evil purposes. There are no "pros and cons" to religion, because it has no positive side. Dawkins' black and white point of view on religion is much closer to the truth than your opinion.
@LibertyCityMayhem95 this is indeed the case when religion is abused and people are taken advantage of; I would argue that as a nation of privilege, we require it less and a nation without. When taken literally, religion is indeed 'absurd and irrational', though not by nature; when the message of religion are taken figuratively, you get a different story - too bad that's not reality eh?
@FlyingVSnow I agree - it's far easier to criticise religion and not look like a nut, vs. praising and looking like a zealot. I personally praise it for the arts and architecture :) I have also observed the role it plays in war torn central Europe - people there do need the hope
Hitler killed a lot of Jews because he took too many amphetamines, fucking up his thought process, jumping from "oppress" to "FUCK 'EM UP! ALL OF 'EM!"
@ScientificChristian1 Evidence? I don't want to criticise/argue against religion because I do see it's value in society - however, I do encourage all parties to be equally balanced in their arguments. That being said, there is no evidence that either Mao or Stalin (amongst others) committed their crimes because they had no religion (it's just plain speculation) - I'm assuming that's what you're referring to?
@guitaroso Hitler, Stalin, Mao, all used the idea that people are not very important, and they are superior to whomever they eliminated including over 100 million of their own people. Religion unchecked is also bad the Catholic church killed 60 million mostly christians to gain their possessions. In a perfect system there is a balance where religion is the why and science provides the how but neither in power.
@ScientificChristian1 Yes they did - but not because they lacked a religion and there isn't any evidence to support otherwise. How do you check religion? and how do you ensure that people do not use it towards violent means (there is far more evidence to support the idea that violence is carried out in the name of religion than atheism etc.)
How do you mean religion as the why? I think Science can facilitate both
My central issue with religion is that we personify god and take myths literally
@guitaroso science cannot facilitate the why, I love science but it is definitely a how to get things done. As far as the godless governments, EVERY godless government exterminated people, many times their own people. Bad religion does the same thing like Catholicism, Radical Islam. Both extremes are bad for the masses. Look up what communist governments did to their own people. They do this because they view themselves as elite and the masses as expendable.
@ScientificChristian1 what do you consider godless though - is any govt with separation of church and state counted? - Not every godless govt exterminated people - I'd happily name them. Your point that godless governments and religious governments both do the same thing concludes that it is not whether religion is prevalent in a government as to whether there death prevails to it's citizens as a result. How does religion facilitate the why? Religion (ironically) needs to evolve.
@guitaroso No any state where he state denies religious freedom, and attempts to be your God. The why is personal for each person. Why do you do what you do. If you work for example The why is to give yourself and your family the things that you want. The how is your vocation. The science provides the hows, Religion provides the why. if you want to feed more starving children. Science provides the technology to get it done.
@ScientificChristian1 I fear we've swayed from the topic; you're now speaking about freedoms being restricted by the state (communism/fascism etc.). You can assume that religion is one of many freedoms restricted to the people - it does not serve as evidence. I've had this debate, that without faith, people lack the motivation to 'exist' - though that would suggest an atheist is inherently unhappy. With your e.g.- does religion provide the 'why' there were starving children in the first place?
@guitaroso No the purpose of the statement was not will to exist but to point out the evil people that killed the 260 million people. Power and greed corrupts even otherwise good people and when you take out accountability to God, absolutely horrible things occur. In China and India right now Cows are more valuable that humans in certain castes or of certain economic status. This should never be the case, but it is the logical end when there is not a creator that made man in his image.
@guitaros cont So to be clear, it is not about will to survive that is our instinct. It is about lack of accountability to a higher power. I have seen great people corrupted by power or money including Christians.Hence the rich mans example by Jesus. Without a constant monitoring of one's self in relation to God all of us fall. However with God I have also seen drug addicts on the brink of death saved and had no trace of addiction left. Stage 4 Cancer patients cured with no treatment, at all.
@ScientificChristian1 You have seen it? I'm guessing you're a social worker then? - I've seen the opposite side - where good people suffer - my conclusion is any higher being we cannot personify in to a 'human' with human emotions. Accountability doesn't come from religion else we'd have no rich Christians. Absolute power corrupts absolutely - this is historically true regardless of whether religion is present.
You also realise that you dismissed a religion of 1 billion and part of their beliefs
@guitaroso Yeah I put down a religion that puts cows ahead of humans. When the mind and soul of people is so dark that they get all warm and fuzzy over animals, but do not weep for fellow humans evil is upon us. I have 4 pets volunteer at a local animal shelter so I love animals but, never confuse the importance of people and animals. You would think that the people who embrace natural selection would see logic in lifting up the human race.
@ScientificChristian1 This is too far off topic - we were talking religion in general in society - now you're telling me that religions like Hinduism is not worthy for this consideration? I don't believe that to be a tolerant point of view. Which sect of Christianity do you represent btw? - What positives do you take from the teachings that could better man? Your last statement is only true with regards to religion if religion itself is progressive (I generally applaud JP2 for this)
@guitaroso Any religion that puts cows before humans is not of God. Any sect of religion that puts the religion itself ahead of the people it is supposed to serve gets negative points in my book. The religion you serve is supposed to serve you as well. Hinduism fails in that as the sub human standards that allow cows to urinate in drinking water while people are dying of starvation and disease as a direct result of this is an abomination.
@ScientificChristian1 You cannot assume that it is religion that drives the poverty; If you believe that, insert evidence here. What if they believe that the religion they serve, serves them? That makes your opinion completely invalid as you have your own dogmatic beliefs - judge not less he be judged. Care to address my questions below?
Either Sir Richard Dawkins failed to understand what the person was trying to explain about the salt/fresh water mix or they just couldnt explain it to him properly here is the real case
The strait of gibralter is a place where the atlantic ocean and the Mediterranean sea meet but they never actually mix.
@stevencage89 But both of those bodies of water are salt water... I think they were probably talking about rivers and the salt water bodies around the middle east, but the explanation is still wrong.
Religious people are full of shit. We already know all of the hypocrisy of the western religions, now it's time to take down Islam. They are very archaic in their beliefs, indoctrinating their children in the religion, some kids can recite the koran word for word by the time they're 9 years old.
We can only hope that one day logic will prevail over all of these fairy tales religious people are obsessed with.
cannabis cures cancer...please watch"RUN FROM THE CURE" it is a good documentary uploaded on youtube...A man has discovered if you eat the essential oil of the cannabis plant over a 3 month period it cures cancer
I love dawkins the way he says that ancients greeks are way different than those jewish misogynist tribes in the middle east!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Its science and culture versus hatred and racism...........
Anybody who doesn't believe in evolution should get a fucking education. Or at the very least, humble yourself a bit and accept that scientists know a little more about biology then stupid idiots.
Scientists, you know, those guys who spend thousands upon thousands of hours in their lives professionally reserching, writting and reading papers, teaching, ...
Brilliant interview. Maher and Dawkins underscore a tragically unappreciated fact, which is that it's not a large leap from organized religion to state-sponsored cult of personality. And it's not always audaciously clear like the Kim-Jong Dynasty. Look at how much power the Pope - one bloody man - has in this world.
Kim Jong Il DID get 11 hole-in-ones in his first game of golf. Then he walked across the lake and thru' magic, produced some loaves and fishes. Everyone was happy. Except all the North Koreans, who are starving. FREE YOUR MIND!
Yes, if you very slowly pour sea water into fresh there will be an initial separation. If you give it time or stir it around though then it will go away.
I'm not seeing how this proves your religion especially with the piles of other insane things I listed from your book. But that is how religions work. You believe in something completely silly without good evidence and expect people to respect it because they will offend you if they mention the truth.
I don't believe in a mean man in the sky, but I am curious why we don't have an animal closer to humans than orangs and chimps. I know they both share a huge amount of our dna but no other animal besides humans can truly speak, do complex mathematics, build telescopes, play chess etc....there is such a huge ocean between our abilities, certainly evolutionary challenges (obtaining food, keeping warm, etc) were not so different for our common ancestors. So what made us so unique?
@HabibCamelJockey Good question! The answer, im afraid, is fairly grizzly. We are not in fact the only species of ape to have evolved with this intelligence. Look up neaderthals. They were a human-like ape with an intelligence that may have been similar to our own. What happened to them? Well, it appears our species killed them all. Perhaps the first genocide in our history, or a culling, depending on your opinion of what the word "species" means. I would say genocide. hope this helps!
@truebeliever786 thay would but the salt water would settle to the bottom like if you dropped a rock in the water same kind of thing.the heaver salt water sink if it did mix
@truebeliever786 Halocline is not proof fresh and salt water don't mix because it requires very specific conditions. If you say the two mix you only need one example of them mixing perfectly fine to show that they do mix on some occasions therefore it is not a good rule. It will always be easier to disprove something to be constant then prove something when you mix them you get brackish water. I'm sorry reality disagrees with your ridiculous superstitions.
@CarletonSaw It's also worth note that if one wing of a fly has some kind of poisonus substance on it the other wing will not contain the cure. Some flies will carry diseases others won't, the sun does not rest on Muhammad feet but in space, the world was not made in 6 days, the moon isn't a light source, bees don't eat all the produce of the earth, mountains aren't magical pegs that stop earthquakes, birds aren't held up by the power of god, and horses don't fly at all.
@CarletonSaw Yes, but they do not mix in the sea. The sea has those specific conditions and the Qur'an refers to the sea, saying that they don't mix 'IN THE SEA', which is 100% right (see Surah al-Furqan 25:53 and Surah ar-Rahman 55:19-20)...
@truebeliever786 Seawater is not the same as "Salt water". It contains more than just NaCl, tends not to mix(immediately) in estuaries due to the difference in relative densities between salt water and fresh water.
Sea water and Fresh water WILL mix, however. If you don't understand this, any first year chemistry course will teach you that Seawater is just regular water with a high concentration of ionic Salts. Adding more water WILL cause dilution.
@Keinlicht Search up the term "Haloclines". Clines are created in between two waters with different properties due to density, and the two major factors playing a role in density are temperature and salinity. Therefore saline water forms a separate layer to fresh water, not all the time, I agree, but many times it does in water-ways, this is a fact, I can cite a scientific text for proof... And yet its mentioned in the Qur'an 1400 years ago...
@truebeliever786 So? It's a fairly basic assumption for any person living near an estuary. I refuse to believe that people 1400 years ago were too stupid to make such an apparently intuitive observation.
The only problem is that it's wrong. The mixing of ions occurs immediately when two fluids come into contact. When you mix cold seawater and warm fresh water, you can say that some parts are saltier than others, but you can't resolve the two as separate liquids any longer.
@Keinlicht How can you call it an intuitive observation? The most people ever got was Herodotus, who observed the existence of salt sediments in the water, that's about it...
But no one ever noticed haloclines. No the ions don't mix, not in large seas they don't, there's a barrier between them, a halocline (Karleskint, Turner and Small, Introduction to Marine Biology, published by Yolanda Cussio, California, USA, Copyright 2006, page 85).
@truebeliever786 Simple. Water downstream is salty, water upstream is fresh. Intuition says this is because they don't mix. Without needing materials to conduct experiments, or the proper calculus to describe the phenomena of salt wedges/haloclines, it seems a pretty basic assumption.
And a "Halocline" is not a barrier, it's a strong gradient in salinity that causes vertical stratification of water. You need a better education in chemistry.
@Keinlicht Who cares if its basic? The point is its true. Now you're just playing semantics. Yes, "stratification", what does this word mean? It comes from strata, meaning layers, i.e. the water forms layers, i.e. there's separate layers between the salt and fresh water, naturally meaning that there are barriers in the sea. I know chemistry, it was my second best Subject in High School and I got a Band 6 for it...
Bottom line, the Qur'an got it right, regardless of semantics.
@wecantsee you do know that you probably got trolled by another athiest who just want to see you rage against Christians right? look at his username for Christ's sake (irony)
@morespamforya The fact that you have to tell us that we're going to hell, tell tell that you don't actually believe so to make up for that you have to reassure your self by telling us that we're going to hell.
At any rate, I've found that religion finds it's most influential tools in 'fear' and 'selfishness'. People fear what might happen to them after they die if they don't put their faith into an arbitrarily selected (usually because of geography) religion. People will then vehemently indulge themselves in that faith because, selfishly, their only concern is what will happen to them when they die, because they deserve something nice. It's immensely petty, really. Oh..and massively pathetic too.
@eltonjesus69 That is true but in essence nothing is every fully proved, however, evolution has and overwhelming amount of evidence supporting it and creationism has absolutely no evidence supporting it at all. Any person who looked at the evidence would agree that evolution is far far more likely than creationism, but they don't, they sit there with dead eyes and a blank stare with there hands in there ears screaming lalalalalalalala!
@ToewangJones true... yet it's funny that evidence of the human race being older that what it is said to be has been found and has always been discarded, and the only evidence to human evolution has always been found to be false.
PS: both einstein and russel beleived in intelligent design, it does not prove in anyway creationism. I know this seems farfetched but there are also people who believe in that we were created by aliens.
@eltonjesus69 Just because Einstein believed in something doesn't make it true. Nobody knows the definite truth. Although, work is being done every day to prove evolution, while religious people just sit back and say god created everything.
Also, our appendix, we don't need it anymore. Why would the perfect god who created man in his own image, give him an organ, to be used for a while and then it becomes useless?
@cfc19900 dude i don't believe in God or any diety or religion. I was simply stating facts i didn't say einstein was right, i simply said he believed in it not i.
"Inserteth quotation from the bible here. Such quotation will attempt to prove that religion is true by quoting from the bible thus defeating the point in their argument. If someone sayeth unto you the bible is full of shit, do you not look like a twat by replying with a comment from the bible?"
Well, religion is a far more ridiculous concept than evolution.
But that's just how it is. There is always a best of both evils. In this case, evolution is far more realistic to believe than religion. Religion is just easier for people to be told rather than science to be taught. Which is more appealing to most? Folk tales and stories? Or scientific explanations for life and how it came to be?
Wisdom,like most things,evolves gradually.And right now,we are gaining a lot of knowledge very fast.And look around:more and more people are turning to the scientific method, becoming agnostic,or atheist(which is a belief too by the way).At the same time religion is like a fish out of the water.It tries to fight all this new knowledge and becomes more absurd every day.People pick up on that and drop religion even more. I'm not worried.Bye religion, you had a good run, but you're just silly now.
Hang on, why wouldn't people kill in the name of Atheism? If religious fanatics were taking over their way of life and trying to ram God beliefs down their throats.
If war was declared on Atheists, wouldn't Atheists fight back and kill those who would have them exterminated?
No I think Atheists would kill to defend their rights and freedoms. You can find plenty valid arguments to kill in the defense of a Non Belief.
@morrjame8 I wouldn't say that is what is happening now. We still have the large majority of the world believing in some kind of God, Gods or spiritual ideal without any real verifiable proof. Nothing much has changed in the last 2000 years, regardless of today's science logic and mountains of evidence. Truth will prevail, yes, but if history and the present day has anything to show, we are not so willing to give up our superstitions ill ways, and false beliefs.
@shimwah I think you're confusing atheists not killing in the name of atheism with atheists not killing. And self defense isn't fighting 'for atheism' or for a 'belief' it's fighting for self preservation. But you would never see atheists joining up to march off thousands of miles to fight and subjugate others 'purely for the sake of atheism.' They certainly still might do it for land and money.
@Twistednerver Why wouldn't atheists join up to march off thousands of miles to fight and subjugate others, if the reason was self defense or to establish a better way of life. What makes you think the religious don't fight and kill in self defense. Defense of their beliefs and their way of life. Self preservation has a broad spectrum.
@shimwah No, self preservation isn't broad at all, it's very narrow. It's broaded by charlatans. but self preservation is immediate and evident. I never said atheists wouldn't join up and march off thousands of miles to fight and subjugate others, they merely wouldn't do this to go convert people to another religion. They would do it for the real reasons, money and land. and as atheists would have to be honest about their motives people would find the motives less motivating.
@shimwah Again defense is not an offensive weapon. If a threat came to atheists and confronted them unprovoked they would fight in defense of their lives, that's self preservation. the argument dawkins is making, and you're missing the point kind of, is that atheists would not go out offensively and provoke a war with people in the name of atheism. Because people don't start fights about things they don't care about. Being an atheist doesn't mean my religion is not believing in god.
@shimwah Being an atheist means I don't give a shit about god and find the concept of god, atleast as defined by the religions of the world, silly and childish. And I'm not going to go kill people because they watch teen mom, I'm not going to to go kill people because they believe in fairy tales of any sort. But being a rational person i might still go kill people to increase economic opportunities and benefits and influence of my nation. I'm not one to think religion is the cause of
@shimwah wars and murder. Certainly getting rid of it would be one less thing to worry about but there would still be wars. I just think they'd be for more rational reasons and people could rationally decide to fight them. Religion causes you to fight for irrational reasons. The reason for all these accusations of wmd and terror to justify iraq? because it makes you think with your emotions rather than your head if they just told you we need to do this for geopolitical reasons.
@shimwah you'd find the geopolitical argument for invading iraq or going on the crusades( really about controlling the trade routes) less appealing than: we're going to take the holy land for our god and lord so that we may live eternally in heaven. or 'a mushroom cloud over nyc' is much more convincing reason to go fight iraqis than, iraq provides an ideal geopolitical base to counter the influence of iran and provide a strategic base for projection of american power into the region.
@Twistednerver I agree with you and get what your saying Atheism is not a belief nor does it pretend to have a set absolute truths that one would go to battle over.
However your statement (nothing to do with atheism)
'I might go kill people to increase economic opportunities and benefits and influence of a nation'.
Tell me how is Nationalism or Culture more endearing than Religion in this regard. We kill each other over these two things. No God needed.
@shimwah no I agree with that. That's why I said I don't think religion is the end all be all that if you simply get rid of religion you would stop war. nationalism is religion though, as bill maher is defining it. anything you love more than rationality is religion, he is arguing. But I agree nationalism is dangerous too.
In the quran it doesnt say fresh water and salt water dont mix, richard dawkins is quite lying. It says that in between the freshwater ans saltwater seas there is a barrier that keeps them separate...
@Twistednerver it doesnt mean a literal barricade between the seas, theres a study that shows how the barrier is structured. And if you read the whole paragraph in the quran, its in context and makes sense.
@baghali222 Well maybe it is a metaphor for something, I've not read the quran, but the bible is full of metaphors used to describe a situation. So maybe 'salt water and fresh water don't mix' is like 'easier for a rich man to pass through the eye of needle.' But the case remains there is no such barrier between bodies of salt water and fresh water. When they meet there will be a 'brackish zone' is which the salt water and fresh water mix. examples: Black Sea, The Amazon, etc.
@baghali222 And there is no problem with people understanding a metaphor to understand a religious point. The problem is when people think, oxymoronically, that the metaphor is the literal word of God, and then believe falsehoods about the physical world. Not only will salt water and fresh water mix, chances are there is a body of water near you that proves it.
Everyone who has half a brain knows that a monkey and fish-beaver had sex to create a human...I mean of course is wasn't gradual changes over millions of years..
@thekenne Go Richard dawkins , dun dun de dun da dun de dun.... Wild Religion appears, Religion uses bullshit, Attack misses.. Richard Dawkins uses Scientific evidence dun dun de dun da dun... Religion is confused, Hurts itself in confusion, Richard dawkins uses wake up slap, Religion flinches... Richard Dawkins uses Natural Selection... It's Supereffective,,Religion faints... wait Richard Dawkins is evolving.. Welldone Richard Dawkins has evolved into Global Unity, Misson Successful
@Twistednerver I haven't read a great deal of this argument, but you're not doing a very good job if all you're doing is blatantly throwing insults out there... Are you doing that to try and "salvage some hint of credibility"? If so, all I can say is you're stupid.
@MrEvilDrPorkChop55 "I haven't read a great deal of this argument, but" aka the typical 'im a dumbass' preamble. 'I haven't bothered to fully inform myself, but I'm going to speak out of my ass, anyway.' The 'not a great deal' you've bothered to read is more than likely the part, when I realized the dude was a nazi and a liar and just decided to treat him as he wished to be treated. There was no argument, there was me quoting science, and him quoting conspiracy theories.
@MrEvilDrPorkChop55 This dude is a moron. He plasters video after video with nazi bullshit. And was here trying to pass off nazi propoganda as science. So for you to jump to his defense to vehemently. you must be his friend. otherwise you REALLY should actually read everything to get the context of a situation so you know the type of people you're defending.
@MrEvilDrPorkChop55 Go ahead click on his name see the other pages he comments on. I was the idiot for not doing that first and actually trying to have an argument with him.
@2Panzerfaust <--------- is a chump. couldn't figure out to post yesterday and wrote all over my wall calling me a 'coward' and was going to 'tell the world' how 'your liberal self censors' the...wait for it folks the best party the 'opposition.' Then made his page private. This isn't my video I can't control it. Should we really accept the opinion and thoughts of a nazi, who can't figure out youtube, on such matters as biology and physics?
@2Panzerfaust have no conscience' which is false. We know some species actually are self aware, not all, but definitely some. You on the other hand, said only humans have unique dna. And you have no referenced one theory even to prove this. You plagarized a site that was unscientific. I caught you on it, even posted the link, and since then you've been all over the place from 'politics' to 'global warming' to salvage some hint of credibility. And you've been failing badly.
@2Panzerfaust There is no proof Jesus was born or died on the cross, actually. There is only the Bible, and that is not a historical document. There is no physical evidence of Jesus even living actually. You make it too easy. You are simply calling general relativity, vaccination, and cosmic microwave radiation 'my opinion.' Which they are not, I wish they were I'd be rich getting laid instead of embarrassing nazi pukes like you in my spare time. You're opinion is 'animals
@Twistednerver I am not looking for an argument but I was under the impression that Jesus did actually exist. I don't believe a word he says and I don't particularly believe in any god.
@tonytiff Hey I mean I think the message of Jesus is fundamental. The sermon on the Mount is pretty much the key to peace. But still and all, no there is no physical evidence that Jesus ever existed.
Muslims, ever heard of brackish water? I'm proud to have been born in Stockholm because in our "Stockholm song" we sing "a mixture of sweet and salt (water)" because that's what the water is like in Stockholm, a mix between fresh water and salt water.
88marome 14 hours ago
Bill & Bill doing what they do best--playing with Dildos and talking about poop.
pulp7theman 1 day ago
@guitaroso Well according to statitsk , the USA thinks religion is more importent then europe does..
FlyingVSnow 1 day ago
@LibertyCityMayhem95 Okay...listen(/read) . Religion is irrationellt, humans are irrationell their fore the only rationol thing is human beliving in a religion.
FlyingVSnow 4 days ago
@LibertyCityMayhem95 Whats my opinion? That The view on religion Cant be viewd in a black and white way? That in fact its grey?
FlyingVSnow 5 days ago
I would submit that whenever one adult human being looks to another for "leadership," he or she is making the same fundamental errors as those who crave organized religion. People need to grow up and take responsibility for their own actions - and I mean that in a real way, NOT the way it is stated by the fanatics of the Amerikan right, who are perhaps the craziest of all.
MiserableOldFart 5 days ago
Wtf, this is almost like propaganda. Taking up everything bad about religion and realy making it seem absurd and irrational, and not balencing it with eventuall good things that religion has brought. So that you can see "proos and cons". I dont realy like Dawkins, buz of his black and white view against religion
FlyingVSnow 6 days ago
@FlyingVSnow "Taking up everything bad about religion and making it seem absurd and irrational" ? Religion is absurd and irrational by nature, and is innately evil and used for evil purposes. There are no "pros and cons" to religion, because it has no positive side. Dawkins' black and white point of view on religion is much closer to the truth than your opinion.
LibertyCityMayhem95 5 days ago
@LibertyCityMayhem95 this is indeed the case when religion is abused and people are taken advantage of; I would argue that as a nation of privilege, we require it less and a nation without. When taken literally, religion is indeed 'absurd and irrational', though not by nature; when the message of religion are taken figuratively, you get a different story - too bad that's not reality eh?
guitaroso 1 day ago
@FlyingVSnow I agree - it's far easier to criticise religion and not look like a nut, vs. praising and looking like a zealot. I personally praise it for the arts and architecture :) I have also observed the role it plays in war torn central Europe - people there do need the hope
guitaroso 2 days ago
Hitler killed a lot of Jews because he took too many amphetamines, fucking up his thought process, jumping from "oppress" to "FUCK 'EM UP! ALL OF 'EM!"
ChUmBaWaMbA31 6 days ago
Dawkins is delusional Communism is what you get when you take God out of government. 100 million dead in just over 100 years.
ScientificChristian1 1 week ago
@ScientificChristian1 you realise that makes no sense?
guitaroso 6 days ago
@guitaroso every godless regime has resulted in millions dead period.
ScientificChristian1 6 days ago
@ScientificChristian1 Evidence? I don't want to criticise/argue against religion because I do see it's value in society - however, I do encourage all parties to be equally balanced in their arguments. That being said, there is no evidence that either Mao or Stalin (amongst others) committed their crimes because they had no religion (it's just plain speculation) - I'm assuming that's what you're referring to?
guitaroso 6 days ago
@guitaroso Hitler, Stalin, Mao, all used the idea that people are not very important, and they are superior to whomever they eliminated including over 100 million of their own people. Religion unchecked is also bad the Catholic church killed 60 million mostly christians to gain their possessions. In a perfect system there is a balance where religion is the why and science provides the how but neither in power.
ScientificChristian1 6 days ago
@ScientificChristian1 Yes they did - but not because they lacked a religion and there isn't any evidence to support otherwise. How do you check religion? and how do you ensure that people do not use it towards violent means (there is far more evidence to support the idea that violence is carried out in the name of religion than atheism etc.)
How do you mean religion as the why? I think Science can facilitate both
My central issue with religion is that we personify god and take myths literally
guitaroso 6 days ago
@guitaroso science cannot facilitate the why, I love science but it is definitely a how to get things done. As far as the godless governments, EVERY godless government exterminated people, many times their own people. Bad religion does the same thing like Catholicism, Radical Islam. Both extremes are bad for the masses. Look up what communist governments did to their own people. They do this because they view themselves as elite and the masses as expendable.
ScientificChristian1 6 days ago
@ScientificChristian1 what do you consider godless though - is any govt with separation of church and state counted? - Not every godless govt exterminated people - I'd happily name them. Your point that godless governments and religious governments both do the same thing concludes that it is not whether religion is prevalent in a government as to whether there death prevails to it's citizens as a result. How does religion facilitate the why? Religion (ironically) needs to evolve.
guitaroso 6 days ago
@guitaroso No any state where he state denies religious freedom, and attempts to be your God. The why is personal for each person. Why do you do what you do. If you work for example The why is to give yourself and your family the things that you want. The how is your vocation. The science provides the hows, Religion provides the why. if you want to feed more starving children. Science provides the technology to get it done.
ScientificChristian1 6 days ago
@ScientificChristian1 I fear we've swayed from the topic; you're now speaking about freedoms being restricted by the state (communism/fascism etc.). You can assume that religion is one of many freedoms restricted to the people - it does not serve as evidence. I've had this debate, that without faith, people lack the motivation to 'exist' - though that would suggest an atheist is inherently unhappy. With your e.g.- does religion provide the 'why' there were starving children in the first place?
guitaroso 2 days ago
@guitaroso No the purpose of the statement was not will to exist but to point out the evil people that killed the 260 million people. Power and greed corrupts even otherwise good people and when you take out accountability to God, absolutely horrible things occur. In China and India right now Cows are more valuable that humans in certain castes or of certain economic status. This should never be the case, but it is the logical end when there is not a creator that made man in his image.
ScientificChristian1 1 day ago
@guitaros cont So to be clear, it is not about will to survive that is our instinct. It is about lack of accountability to a higher power. I have seen great people corrupted by power or money including Christians.Hence the rich mans example by Jesus. Without a constant monitoring of one's self in relation to God all of us fall. However with God I have also seen drug addicts on the brink of death saved and had no trace of addiction left. Stage 4 Cancer patients cured with no treatment, at all.
ScientificChristian1 1 day ago
@ScientificChristian1 You have seen it? I'm guessing you're a social worker then? - I've seen the opposite side - where good people suffer - my conclusion is any higher being we cannot personify in to a 'human' with human emotions. Accountability doesn't come from religion else we'd have no rich Christians. Absolute power corrupts absolutely - this is historically true regardless of whether religion is present.
You also realise that you dismissed a religion of 1 billion and part of their beliefs
guitaroso 1 day ago
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ScientificChristian1 23 hours ago
@guitaroso Yeah I put down a religion that puts cows ahead of humans. When the mind and soul of people is so dark that they get all warm and fuzzy over animals, but do not weep for fellow humans evil is upon us. I have 4 pets volunteer at a local animal shelter so I love animals but, never confuse the importance of people and animals. You would think that the people who embrace natural selection would see logic in lifting up the human race.
ScientificChristian1 16 hours ago
@ScientificChristian1 This is too far off topic - we were talking religion in general in society - now you're telling me that religions like Hinduism is not worthy for this consideration? I don't believe that to be a tolerant point of view. Which sect of Christianity do you represent btw? - What positives do you take from the teachings that could better man? Your last statement is only true with regards to religion if religion itself is progressive (I generally applaud JP2 for this)
guitaroso 4 hours ago
@guitaroso Any religion that puts cows before humans is not of God. Any sect of religion that puts the religion itself ahead of the people it is supposed to serve gets negative points in my book. The religion you serve is supposed to serve you as well. Hinduism fails in that as the sub human standards that allow cows to urinate in drinking water while people are dying of starvation and disease as a direct result of this is an abomination.
ScientificChristian1 2 hours ago
@ScientificChristian1 You cannot assume that it is religion that drives the poverty; If you believe that, insert evidence here. What if they believe that the religion they serve, serves them? That makes your opinion completely invalid as you have your own dogmatic beliefs - judge not less he be judged. Care to address my questions below?
guitaroso 2 hours ago
4:17 : "how about you lot shut the fuck up and let me speak?"
leakeg 1 week ago
Either Sir Richard Dawkins failed to understand what the person was trying to explain about the salt/fresh water mix or they just couldnt explain it to him properly here is the real case
The strait of gibralter is a place where the atlantic ocean and the Mediterranean sea meet but they never actually mix.
stevencage89 1 week ago
@stevencage89 But both of those bodies of water are salt water... I think they were probably talking about rivers and the salt water bodies around the middle east, but the explanation is still wrong.
ull90 1 week ago
Religious people are full of shit. We already know all of the hypocrisy of the western religions, now it's time to take down Islam. They are very archaic in their beliefs, indoctrinating their children in the religion, some kids can recite the koran word for word by the time they're 9 years old.
We can only hope that one day logic will prevail over all of these fairy tales religious people are obsessed with.
donzaloog1400 1 week ago 3
You can believe in God and believe in evolution at the same time. A set of rules is how he works.
ViciousAlienKlown 1 week ago
lovely lovely lovely, favorite interview so far
"whether is salt water or fresh water, shit floats" YAH.
kingkonghitme 1 week ago 3
bible is first meme, from which someone erased all the trollfaces
dnch 2 weeks ago 10
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mara0facoma 2 weeks ago
Two great men.
samreyy 2 weeks ago 3
....I wish that Richard Dawkins was my grandpa.... :'(
iamnotyourface 2 weeks ago 4
I love dawkins the way he says that ancients greeks are way different than those jewish misogynist tribes in the middle east!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Its science and culture versus hatred and racism...........
steliosslkds 2 weeks ago
Do religious nuts not see the irony in saying they don't believe in evolution because they can't see it?
Logarithmify 2 weeks ago 71
@Logarithmify LOL! I can't believe I've never thought of that!
blackkakari 4 days ago
Anybody who doesn't believe in evolution should get a fucking education. Or at the very least, humble yourself a bit and accept that scientists know a little more about biology then stupid idiots.
Scientists, you know, those guys who spend thousands upon thousands of hours in their lives professionally reserching, writting and reading papers, teaching, ...
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In 100years it would be considered offensive to say "There is a GOD"......"GOD bless you" would be kind of a ethnic slur, insulting the minority.
TheAtheisticCard 3 weeks ago
Brilliant interview. Maher and Dawkins underscore a tragically unappreciated fact, which is that it's not a large leap from organized religion to state-sponsored cult of personality. And it's not always audaciously clear like the Kim-Jong Dynasty. Look at how much power the Pope - one bloody man - has in this world.
dner75 3 weeks ago 3
1:37 South park reference from Dawkins!
ManDudeYeah 3 weeks ago
I love this man he is so right !
jahill100 3 weeks ago
Normally Bill Maher (and his audence) is an idiot. Here, he's at his best.
JohnQRandom 3 weeks ago
I think some people confuse evolution and "evolving" with the Pokemon term of evolving. :P Thumbs up if you agree!
ccordell1111 3 weeks ago
I remember that part wih the lizards! I read it not so long ago.
Peaceeverbody 3 weeks ago
Kim Jong Il DID get 11 hole-in-ones in his first game of golf. Then he walked across the lake and thru' magic, produced some loaves and fishes. Everyone was happy. Except all the North Koreans, who are starving. FREE YOUR MIND!
chestypants78 3 weeks ago 3
jesus/god = Santa Claus. Grow the fuck up
drasteek 4 weeks ago
Yes, if you very slowly pour sea water into fresh there will be an initial separation. If you give it time or stir it around though then it will go away.
I'm not seeing how this proves your religion especially with the piles of other insane things I listed from your book. But that is how religions work. You believe in something completely silly without good evidence and expect people to respect it because they will offend you if they mention the truth.
I'm done with you though.
CarletonSaw 1 month ago 43
Plato owns Moses and Muhammad, and Christ is a decent archetype.
JNathanK2011 1 month ago
@habs4life41 LOL I hope you're trolling. If not, I'll show you into the room of ignorance and closed mindedness.
TheArcticPhoenix 1 month ago
regardless, that dakota fanning's getting some nice tits eh?
dannycellis1 1 month ago
These guys are fucking retarded, all atheists dont know shit lmao
habs4life41 1 month ago
I don't believe in a mean man in the sky, but I am curious why we don't have an animal closer to humans than orangs and chimps. I know they both share a huge amount of our dna but no other animal besides humans can truly speak, do complex mathematics, build telescopes, play chess etc....there is such a huge ocean between our abilities, certainly evolutionary challenges (obtaining food, keeping warm, etc) were not so different for our common ancestors. So what made us so unique?
HabibCamelJockey 1 month ago
@HabibCamelJockey Good question! The answer, im afraid, is fairly grizzly. We are not in fact the only species of ape to have evolved with this intelligence. Look up neaderthals. They were a human-like ape with an intelligence that may have been similar to our own. What happened to them? Well, it appears our species killed them all. Perhaps the first genocide in our history, or a culling, depending on your opinion of what the word "species" means. I would say genocide. hope this helps!
zimmermjaz 1 month ago
Red Wine is God. Especially after a Tall Cool Budweiser.
MrBeautifulba1 1 month ago
Prisoners have been known to through poop. -FACT-
matthewtaylorbrown 1 month ago
But fresh water and salt water don't mix in the sea, that's a fact, its called 'haloclines', the barriers that form in between them...
truebeliever786 1 month ago
@truebeliever786 thay would but the salt water would settle to the bottom like if you dropped a rock in the water same kind of thing.the heaver salt water sink if it did mix
saur2244 1 month ago
@saur2244 Yes that's right...
truebeliever786 1 month ago
@truebeliever786 Halocline is not proof fresh and salt water don't mix because it requires very specific conditions. If you say the two mix you only need one example of them mixing perfectly fine to show that they do mix on some occasions therefore it is not a good rule. It will always be easier to disprove something to be constant then prove something when you mix them you get brackish water. I'm sorry reality disagrees with your ridiculous superstitions.
CarletonSaw 1 month ago
@CarletonSaw It's also worth note that if one wing of a fly has some kind of poisonus substance on it the other wing will not contain the cure. Some flies will carry diseases others won't, the sun does not rest on Muhammad feet but in space, the world was not made in 6 days, the moon isn't a light source, bees don't eat all the produce of the earth, mountains aren't magical pegs that stop earthquakes, birds aren't held up by the power of god, and horses don't fly at all.
CarletonSaw 1 month ago
@CarletonSaw Yes, but they do not mix in the sea. The sea has those specific conditions and the Qur'an refers to the sea, saying that they don't mix 'IN THE SEA', which is 100% right (see Surah al-Furqan 25:53 and Surah ar-Rahman 55:19-20)...
truebeliever786 1 month ago
@truebeliever786 but they do mix in the sea. Just not every single location of the sea. There are specific places they don't mix but it does happen.
CarletonSaw 1 month ago
@CarletonSaw False, go to the sea and pour fresh water into it, you'll notice that the fresh water doesn't mix with the sea water.
truebeliever786 1 month ago
@truebeliever786 Seawater is not the same as "Salt water". It contains more than just NaCl, tends not to mix(immediately) in estuaries due to the difference in relative densities between salt water and fresh water.
Sea water and Fresh water WILL mix, however. If you don't understand this, any first year chemistry course will teach you that Seawater is just regular water with a high concentration of ionic Salts. Adding more water WILL cause dilution.
Keinlicht 4 weeks ago
@Keinlicht Search up the term "Haloclines". Clines are created in between two waters with different properties due to density, and the two major factors playing a role in density are temperature and salinity. Therefore saline water forms a separate layer to fresh water, not all the time, I agree, but many times it does in water-ways, this is a fact, I can cite a scientific text for proof... And yet its mentioned in the Qur'an 1400 years ago...
truebeliever786 4 weeks ago
@truebeliever786 So? It's a fairly basic assumption for any person living near an estuary. I refuse to believe that people 1400 years ago were too stupid to make such an apparently intuitive observation.
The only problem is that it's wrong. The mixing of ions occurs immediately when two fluids come into contact. When you mix cold seawater and warm fresh water, you can say that some parts are saltier than others, but you can't resolve the two as separate liquids any longer.
Keinlicht 4 weeks ago
@Keinlicht How can you call it an intuitive observation? The most people ever got was Herodotus, who observed the existence of salt sediments in the water, that's about it...
But no one ever noticed haloclines. No the ions don't mix, not in large seas they don't, there's a barrier between them, a halocline (Karleskint, Turner and Small, Introduction to Marine Biology, published by Yolanda Cussio, California, USA, Copyright 2006, page 85).
truebeliever786 4 weeks ago
@truebeliever786 Simple. Water downstream is salty, water upstream is fresh. Intuition says this is because they don't mix. Without needing materials to conduct experiments, or the proper calculus to describe the phenomena of salt wedges/haloclines, it seems a pretty basic assumption.
And a "Halocline" is not a barrier, it's a strong gradient in salinity that causes vertical stratification of water. You need a better education in chemistry.
Keinlicht 4 weeks ago
@Keinlicht Who cares if its basic? The point is its true. Now you're just playing semantics. Yes, "stratification", what does this word mean? It comes from strata, meaning layers, i.e. the water forms layers, i.e. there's separate layers between the salt and fresh water, naturally meaning that there are barriers in the sea. I know chemistry, it was my second best Subject in High School and I got a Band 6 for it...
Bottom line, the Qur'an got it right, regardless of semantics.
truebeliever786 3 weeks ago
@CarletonSaw such as?
Meskiagkasher 1 month ago
Replace every time he says "Monkey" with "Ape".
FacnyCatFighter 1 month ago
/watch?v=4A-dMqEbSk8 Saying "Monkey" is okay. ^^
raineWoS 1 month ago
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My heathen friends will enjoy "Religious Fanatic debates Atheist" on my channel. Brace Yourself.
Sweence 1 month ago
its funny in USA you have to come out as an atheist, its considered the norm in denmark haha
Nabolzi 1 month ago
Hearing these two bash religion is like hearing a couple of rednecks talking about niggers.
megafoned 1 month ago
u faggot athiests are gonna burn in hell and when you cry as you burn we'll all be laughing at your face in HEAVEN
morespamforya 1 month ago
@morespamforya So christian of you IDIOT.
wecantsee 1 month ago
@wecantsee you do know that you probably got trolled by another athiest who just want to see you rage against Christians right? look at his username for Christ's sake (irony)
willzjc 1 month ago
@willzjc That's a clear satire and I'm also responding that makes me look like being hooked.
wecantsee 1 month ago
@morespamforya LOL :D
movieegrl13 1 month ago
@morespamforya LOL XD
dill180 1 month ago
@morespamforya The fact that you have to tell us that we're going to hell, tell tell that you don't actually believe so to make up for that you have to reassure your self by telling us that we're going to hell.
cookieyy 1 month ago
@morespamforya Lol troll. Try to be a little more subtle if you want people to actually believe your THAT stupid.
Egag642 1 month ago
i love dawkins for being so intellectual and brilliant and then just shamelessly plugs his website too
ellagrace810 1 month ago
"There are good people doing good things and bad people doing bad things in the world, but to have a good person do bad things you need religion" - ?
LoverofLiszt 1 month ago
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At any rate, I've found that religion finds it's most influential tools in 'fear' and 'selfishness'. People fear what might happen to them after they die if they don't put their faith into an arbitrarily selected (usually because of geography) religion. People will then vehemently indulge themselves in that faith because, selfishly, their only concern is what will happen to them when they die, because they deserve something nice. It's immensely petty, really. Oh..and massively pathetic too.
AwesomeTrevorDooood 1 month ago
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AwesomeTrevorDooood 1 month ago
neither creationism nor human evolution has been proven
eltonjesus69 1 month ago
@eltonjesus69 That is true but in essence nothing is every fully proved, however, evolution has and overwhelming amount of evidence supporting it and creationism has absolutely no evidence supporting it at all. Any person who looked at the evidence would agree that evolution is far far more likely than creationism, but they don't, they sit there with dead eyes and a blank stare with there hands in there ears screaming lalalalalalalala!
ToewangJones 1 month ago 37
@ToewangJones true... yet it's funny that evidence of the human race being older that what it is said to be has been found and has always been discarded, and the only evidence to human evolution has always been found to be false.
PS: both einstein and russel beleived in intelligent design, it does not prove in anyway creationism. I know this seems farfetched but there are also people who believe in that we were created by aliens.
eltonjesus69 1 month ago
@eltonjesus69 or even worse, from Adam and Eve.
Caztor84 1 month ago
@eltonjesus69 Just because Einstein believed in something doesn't make it true. Nobody knows the definite truth. Although, work is being done every day to prove evolution, while religious people just sit back and say god created everything.
Also, our appendix, we don't need it anymore. Why would the perfect god who created man in his own image, give him an organ, to be used for a while and then it becomes useless?
cfc19900 1 month ago
@cfc19900 dude i don't believe in God or any diety or religion. I was simply stating facts i didn't say einstein was right, i simply said he believed in it not i.
eltonjesus69 1 month ago
@cfc19900 Not just useless, but has the capacity to randomly kill us!
udun93 1 month ago
@eltonjesus69 Herp-a-derp?
Zentz29 1 month ago
WHETER SALT WATER OR FRESH WATER
STILL
SHIT FLOATS!!!!!!
BILL RULES
srt619 1 month ago
Youtuber: Psalms 23:10
"Inserteth quotation from the bible here. Such quotation will attempt to prove that religion is true by quoting from the bible thus defeating the point in their argument. If someone sayeth unto you the bible is full of shit, do you not look like a twat by replying with a comment from the bible?"
speckyprick 1 month ago
@speckyprick LMFAO!!!! XD Good one
MrVenebi 1 month ago
Evolution is totally ludacris.
dae345 1 month ago
@dae345
Well, religion is a far more ridiculous concept than evolution.
But that's just how it is. There is always a best of both evils. In this case, evolution is far more realistic to believe than religion. Religion is just easier for people to be told rather than science to be taught. Which is more appealing to most? Folk tales and stories? Or scientific explanations for life and how it came to be?
RawfullMyEggroll 1 month ago
@dae345 So is childbirth!
shimwah 1 month ago
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Wisdom,like most things,evolves gradually.And right now,we are gaining a lot of knowledge very fast.And look around:more and more people are turning to the scientific method, becoming agnostic,or atheist(which is a belief too by the way).At the same time religion is like a fish out of the water.It tries to fight all this new knowledge and becomes more absurd every day.People pick up on that and drop religion even more. I'm not worried.Bye religion, you had a good run, but you're just silly now.
PainSurgeon 1 month ago
I'm not a witch. I'm nothing you've heard. I'm you.
MorrisonEnterprise 1 month ago
Cool Interview, Dawkins knows his stuff.
ChronoTriggerMusic 1 month ago 2
Hang on, why wouldn't people kill in the name of Atheism? If religious fanatics were taking over their way of life and trying to ram God beliefs down their throats.
If war was declared on Atheists, wouldn't Atheists fight back and kill those who would have them exterminated?
No I think Atheists would kill to defend their rights and freedoms. You can find plenty valid arguments to kill in the defense of a Non Belief.
shimwah 1 month ago
@shimwah Isn't that what's happening now? It's only a matter of time before the whole world is atheist. Logic will prevail.
morrjame8 1 month ago
@morrjame8 I wouldn't say that is what is happening now. We still have the large majority of the world believing in some kind of God, Gods or spiritual ideal without any real verifiable proof. Nothing much has changed in the last 2000 years, regardless of today's science logic and mountains of evidence. Truth will prevail, yes, but if history and the present day has anything to show, we are not so willing to give up our superstitions ill ways, and false beliefs.
shimwah 1 month ago
@shimwah I think you're confusing atheists not killing in the name of atheism with atheists not killing. And self defense isn't fighting 'for atheism' or for a 'belief' it's fighting for self preservation. But you would never see atheists joining up to march off thousands of miles to fight and subjugate others 'purely for the sake of atheism.' They certainly still might do it for land and money.
Twistednerver 1 month ago
@Twistednerver Why wouldn't atheists join up to march off thousands of miles to fight and subjugate others, if the reason was self defense or to establish a better way of life. What makes you think the religious don't fight and kill in self defense. Defense of their beliefs and their way of life. Self preservation has a broad spectrum.
shimwah 1 month ago
@shimwah No, self preservation isn't broad at all, it's very narrow. It's broaded by charlatans. but self preservation is immediate and evident. I never said atheists wouldn't join up and march off thousands of miles to fight and subjugate others, they merely wouldn't do this to go convert people to another religion. They would do it for the real reasons, money and land. and as atheists would have to be honest about their motives people would find the motives less motivating.
Twistednerver 1 month ago
@shimwah Again defense is not an offensive weapon. If a threat came to atheists and confronted them unprovoked they would fight in defense of their lives, that's self preservation. the argument dawkins is making, and you're missing the point kind of, is that atheists would not go out offensively and provoke a war with people in the name of atheism. Because people don't start fights about things they don't care about. Being an atheist doesn't mean my religion is not believing in god.
Twistednerver 1 month ago
@shimwah Being an atheist means I don't give a shit about god and find the concept of god, atleast as defined by the religions of the world, silly and childish. And I'm not going to go kill people because they watch teen mom, I'm not going to to go kill people because they believe in fairy tales of any sort. But being a rational person i might still go kill people to increase economic opportunities and benefits and influence of my nation. I'm not one to think religion is the cause of
Twistednerver 1 month ago
@shimwah wars and murder. Certainly getting rid of it would be one less thing to worry about but there would still be wars. I just think they'd be for more rational reasons and people could rationally decide to fight them. Religion causes you to fight for irrational reasons. The reason for all these accusations of wmd and terror to justify iraq? because it makes you think with your emotions rather than your head if they just told you we need to do this for geopolitical reasons.
Twistednerver 1 month ago
@shimwah you'd find the geopolitical argument for invading iraq or going on the crusades( really about controlling the trade routes) less appealing than: we're going to take the holy land for our god and lord so that we may live eternally in heaven. or 'a mushroom cloud over nyc' is much more convincing reason to go fight iraqis than, iraq provides an ideal geopolitical base to counter the influence of iran and provide a strategic base for projection of american power into the region.
Twistednerver 1 month ago
@Twistednerver I agree with you and get what your saying Atheism is not a belief nor does it pretend to have a set absolute truths that one would go to battle over.
However your statement (nothing to do with atheism)
'I might go kill people to increase economic opportunities and benefits and influence of a nation'.
Tell me how is Nationalism or Culture more endearing than Religion in this regard. We kill each other over these two things. No God needed.
shimwah 1 month ago
@shimwah no I agree with that. That's why I said I don't think religion is the end all be all that if you simply get rid of religion you would stop war. nationalism is religion though, as bill maher is defining it. anything you love more than rationality is religion, he is arguing. But I agree nationalism is dangerous too.
Twistednerver 1 month ago
INSERT RETARDED YOUTUBE ARGUMENT OVER WHETHER OR NOT RELIGION IS TRUE HERE
CARVERitUP 1 month ago 47
@CARVERitUP Religion is bullshit, there you go.
ChronoTriggerMusic 1 month ago
@ChronoTriggerMusic read my mind! :P
CARVERitUP 1 month ago
@CARVERitUP XD true
blakebrown115 1 month ago
@CARVERitUP You laugh at their arguments. They will laugh at your damnation.
JasonStogia 1 month ago
@JasonStogia Excuse me? I'm Catholic. I'm saying both of these sides are being completely retarded arguing on YOUTUBE over what's right or wrong.
CARVERitUP 1 month ago
@CARVERitUP I'm Orthodox. And I used something known as humour.
JasonStogia 1 month ago
@JasonStogia If the way you tell jokes is as serious as that, I wouldn't go into stand up...
CARVERitUP 1 month ago
@CARVERitUP
Not interested in going into stand up.
The joke that I used is a variation of a popular inside joke if you'd like of the internet.
I assumed you would get it.
Didn't mean to insult you are anything.
But anyway enough time spent on this matter.
JasonStogia 1 month ago
The differences between two people agreeing and discussing something and two people disagreeing and arguing something are notable
AndreasZimmerman 1 month ago
In the quran it doesnt say fresh water and salt water dont mix, richard dawkins is quite lying. It says that in between the freshwater ans saltwater seas there is a barrier that keeps them separate...
baghali222 1 month ago
@baghali222 Well that's not true either....brackish?????
Twistednerver 1 month ago
@Twistednerver it doesnt mean a literal barricade between the seas, theres a study that shows how the barrier is structured. And if you read the whole paragraph in the quran, its in context and makes sense.
baghali222 1 month ago
@baghali222 Well maybe it is a metaphor for something, I've not read the quran, but the bible is full of metaphors used to describe a situation. So maybe 'salt water and fresh water don't mix' is like 'easier for a rich man to pass through the eye of needle.' But the case remains there is no such barrier between bodies of salt water and fresh water. When they meet there will be a 'brackish zone' is which the salt water and fresh water mix. examples: Black Sea, The Amazon, etc.
Twistednerver 1 month ago
@baghali222 And there is no problem with people understanding a metaphor to understand a religious point. The problem is when people think, oxymoronically, that the metaphor is the literal word of God, and then believe falsehoods about the physical world. Not only will salt water and fresh water mix, chances are there is a body of water near you that proves it.
Twistednerver 1 month ago
Everyone who has half a brain knows that a monkey and fish-beaver had sex to create a human...I mean of course is wasn't gradual changes over millions of years..
McBlevinz 1 month ago
i hate the fact religious people think evolution is like pokemon...
thekenne 1 month ago 63
@thekenne I hate the fact that religious people think evolution is like Michael Jackson.
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@thekenne Go Richard dawkins , dun dun de dun da dun de dun.... Wild Religion appears, Religion uses bullshit, Attack misses.. Richard Dawkins uses Scientific evidence dun dun de dun da dun... Religion is confused, Hurts itself in confusion, Richard dawkins uses wake up slap, Religion flinches... Richard Dawkins uses Natural Selection... It's Supereffective,,Religion faints... wait Richard Dawkins is evolving.. Welldone Richard Dawkins has evolved into Global Unity, Misson Successful
123loco1991 1 month ago
@thekenne Dude... someone pressed B on the gameboy when their brains were evolving...
Tudorel98 1 month ago
@Tudorel98 that sure is !! lol
thekenne 1 month ago
@thekenne
But wouldn't it just be awesome if it did work like that? You kill 30-40 theists and then you grow wings.
RogerabbitGosu 1 month ago
@RogerabbitGosu sure would be more obvious there is no god too :p
thekenne 1 month ago
@Twistednerver I haven't read a great deal of this argument, but you're not doing a very good job if all you're doing is blatantly throwing insults out there... Are you doing that to try and "salvage some hint of credibility"? If so, all I can say is you're stupid.
MrEvilDrPorkChop55 1 month ago
@MrEvilDrPorkChop55 "I haven't read a great deal of this argument, but" aka the typical 'im a dumbass' preamble. 'I haven't bothered to fully inform myself, but I'm going to speak out of my ass, anyway.' The 'not a great deal' you've bothered to read is more than likely the part, when I realized the dude was a nazi and a liar and just decided to treat him as he wished to be treated. There was no argument, there was me quoting science, and him quoting conspiracy theories.
Twistednerver 1 month ago
@MrEvilDrPorkChop55 This dude is a moron. He plasters video after video with nazi bullshit. And was here trying to pass off nazi propoganda as science. So for you to jump to his defense to vehemently. you must be his friend. otherwise you REALLY should actually read everything to get the context of a situation so you know the type of people you're defending.
Twistednerver 1 month ago
@MrEvilDrPorkChop55 Go ahead click on his name see the other pages he comments on. I was the idiot for not doing that first and actually trying to have an argument with him.
Twistednerver 1 month ago
@2Panzerfaust <----is a traitorous piece of Sh!+
Twistednerver 1 month ago
@2Panzerfaust <--------- is a chump. couldn't figure out to post yesterday and wrote all over my wall calling me a 'coward' and was going to 'tell the world' how 'your liberal self censors' the...wait for it folks the best party the 'opposition.' Then made his page private. This isn't my video I can't control it. Should we really accept the opinion and thoughts of a nazi, who can't figure out youtube, on such matters as biology and physics?
Twistednerver 1 month ago
@2Panzerfaust Damn is that a third one???!!!
Twistednerver 1 month ago
@2Panzerfaust sciencedaily/releases/2009/10/091029150610.htm
Twistednerver 1 month ago
@2Panzerfaust Is that another experiment for evolution....oh yes it is.
Twistednerver 1 month ago
@2Panzerfaust blackwellpublishing/ridley/experiments/
Twistednerver 1 month ago
@2Panzerfaust What's that...oh it's only an experiment for evolution.
Twistednerver 1 month ago
@2Panzerfaust hhmi.org/genesweshare/e120.html
Twistednerver 1 month ago
@2Panzerfaust Just like the nazis and the wehrmacht.
Twistednerver 1 month ago
@2Panzerfaust have no conscience' which is false. We know some species actually are self aware, not all, but definitely some. You on the other hand, said only humans have unique dna. And you have no referenced one theory even to prove this. You plagarized a site that was unscientific. I caught you on it, even posted the link, and since then you've been all over the place from 'politics' to 'global warming' to salvage some hint of credibility. And you've been failing badly.
Twistednerver 1 month ago
@2Panzerfaust There is no proof Jesus was born or died on the cross, actually. There is only the Bible, and that is not a historical document. There is no physical evidence of Jesus even living actually. You make it too easy. You are simply calling general relativity, vaccination, and cosmic microwave radiation 'my opinion.' Which they are not, I wish they were I'd be rich getting laid instead of embarrassing nazi pukes like you in my spare time. You're opinion is 'animals
Twistednerver 1 month ago
@Twistednerver I am not looking for an argument but I was under the impression that Jesus did actually exist. I don't believe a word he says and I don't particularly believe in any god.
tonytiff 1 month ago
@tonytiff Hey I mean I think the message of Jesus is fundamental. The sermon on the Mount is pretty much the key to peace. But still and all, no there is no physical evidence that Jesus ever existed.
Twistednerver 1 month ago