when Nirvana, pearl Jam etc. became more popular in the late 80's early 90's, the industry began marketing new acts as "alternative, but all of a sudden, they all had to sound and look "alternative" according to the music industry record executives version of safe bland version of alternative thus killing the true meaning of the word..so when really diffierent sounding pop bands and rock bands rolled around, they didn't fit into that mold...all of a sudden..goodbye true creativity
Popol Vuh always seemed to me to be more spiritual than the other German bands of the '70s. Especially the track off this album called "Abschied"....I was listening to that on the way home from work one day and cried, because I felt so much simple gratitude and love in it. Absolutely beautiful.
If anything, this genre has been labelled the most appropriately, detracting the least from their musical dexterity. The term is applied as they're all German rock bands of the post-war era, which has little do with their music; more their identity on an international basis. Much better than pinning them with a tag that reflects upon their overall sound, but I suppose that simply wasn't fathomable, due to the sheer breadth of each significant band's sound - they were all too experimental.
Popul Vuh is always pure emotion, pure wordless emotions
thee only thing all Krautrock has mainly in common is it is all very new and innovative: Klaus Schulze Tangerine dream, Neu, Kraftwerk, Guru Guru, (dreaded) Faust, Cluster , Conrad Schnitzler, Ash Ra Tempel
He estado en los bosques,frente a las grandes piramedes mayas,en logares remotos observando las estrellas siempre escuchando popol vuh,ha macado mi vida para siempre.
Y lo conoci viendo las peliculas de herzog y kinsky.
It's similar to Indian classical music cos you have some repetitive looping stuff and then improvisations over the top. What is cool is that A.R. Rahman (Slumdog Millionaire) and other modern Indian composers got into synths and copied dance styles that were copied from Kraftwerk that were copied from Indian music that inspired Krautrock...That's just my BS theory.
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no proper style... for some ... for others its surely an original approach of music ...popol vuh used many (ethnically and culturaly) different colours of music from their travelling Bag ...for and with the surprised silences of the others and me.
I can see how Germans could take Krautrock as derogatory....i'm Italian American and probably wouldn't appreciate the term "Wop-Rock" referring to Italian alternative music...
"Kosmiche Musik" was the term coined in Germany for the wave of bands that begain emerging in the late '60s there, many of which had completely different styles and backgrounds, but all shared a strong experamental bent, and varying degrees of fondness for psychedelia. In Britain, the term "Krautrock" was used by the press for the more popular groups such as Can and Faust which made their way across the channel. Some German musicians still think of it as derogatory, and I can't blame them.
if you look at the so called "Alternative" bands of the 90's and early 2000's, ther's a sameness that can't be overlooked, sure there are a few exceptions, Wilco etc.. but compared to the New Wave/Alternative groups of the 70's and 80's which pretty much all ahd their own style and sound, what a difference, sorry if i'm going off on a tangent but it's an observation i can't ignore...Popol Vuh is a good example of that creative freedom you don't see anymore...bands are in a chokehold nowadays...
you're right, Krautrock is a more general term that can fit different music styles...like Tangerine Dream was very different from Amon Duul II who were very different from Can all under the Krautrock label....but when they started using the term Alternative to define a certain sound / style of rock, that pretty much killed the true meaning of what Alternative Rock was which was something different from the norm, the music industry knew what they were doing and all "Alternative" bands had to fit
but once you start labelling, you expect it to sound a certain way all the time, sometimes the artist won't want to change their style...look what happened with the "Alternative" label, once it became a marketing term, everybody expected "Alternative" rock to have a certain sound, thus killing the meaning of the word until all the so called "Alternative" bands look and sound the same, it is true though, we'll never get away from labelling...
I don't thnk about it too much to be honest. I mean I know many people call this Krautrock but I don't exactly know what that is.. seems like a catch all phrase for a lot of different styles (e.g. Can/TD/Amon Duul II all sound totally different). but at least it gets people listening to a lot of different styles... so I think calling this krautrock is ok as it gets people here in the first place... otherwise how would they find it? Accidentally perhaps... at least it speeds up the process.. ;-)
@fujivoo Certainly Popol Vuh should be thought of first and foremost as "Popul Vuh music". The term "Krautrock" is useful when we are looking at the broader musical world and want to make sense of it.
@fujivoo "alternative" was always a marketing term, it was created for that only purpose. when you talk about krautrock, you are referring to music that was made in a certain context under more or less the same premises concerning the making of the music. of course when that is developed by different people with different means the style results diverse, but the core remains. i think labellin is useful.
@fujivoo even Faust recorded one song called Krautrock, we all know that. I guess what happened to the "alternative rock" label didnt happened to "krautrock", cause all these german bands are too good and diverse that it makes it really dificult to banalize them into just one word and even harder to have new bands copying what they sound like and making "krautrock" just another musical industry repetitive style
Why must we always put labels on music....just listen and either you like it or you don't...personally i like this whatever you wanna call it...just my opinion
unfortunately 'labels' are part of the process... otherwise how would people find the music... I daresay many people found this using the label krautrock.. even though its not particularly in that vein...
@orangefunk I think it sounds kinda new agey/folky to me. When I think krautrock I think Can, ADii, early Kraftwerk, stuff that had that really driving rock beat and hypnotic music. Thanks to that tag it got me to this though and im loving what im hearing. This doesnt sound like the Kyrie I know from letzte tage letzte nächte at all though which I think i like a lot better. scuze me but im kind of a PV newb
Words cannot describe the beauty of Popol Vuh. They were truly unique, quite possibly the best band to emerge from Germany. My "In the gardens of Pharao/Aguirre" compilation CD will always remain the holy grail :-)
This feels so comfortable, the room, music, the people - exactly the kind of "seventies" gathering I grew used to in the 70's. We were a different lot. Oh, how I miss the seventies, and the people I knew then.
It's such a shame that there is very little footage available of them at all, but in a way it keeps the mystery. This is a stunning album, one of the best of the 70's.
I like that your comparing krautrock bands, but the two are not really goin for the same thing, although Future Days does try to be more ambient, and the results of that one are quite nice, check it out if you'd like.
popol vuh weren't as layered as and physical as can -- plus popol vuh could be mistaken for several electronic artists whereas can were (perhaps) more authentic......popol vuh seemed to have more to do with what later got termed 'new age' but more interesting.
Popol Vuh at their best are far more austere and erudite than any of Can's material. Later electronic artists may sound "like" Popol Vuh, but at their time, at their height, their unabashedly spiritual, meter and timeless sound was the most innovative turn in rock music since Tangerine Dream. Can were still quite derivative in spirit, if not sound, to American psychedelia (from the Dead to Red Crayola). Not to knock Can. They were one of the greatest for how far they pushed the "trip" in rock.
so off-the-mark to me......can were highly sophisticated and original (not a trace of the influences you speak of ) and they had ideas, many of which confound me as a musician.....popoh vuh, however, was a vehicle for florian fricke evolving around [an] idea (the beauty of the major scale applied to various textures)....i like them but never viewed them as pioneers of anything -- i just don't think they're that special, but that's just my opinion.
There is certainly a trace of those things simply in terms of Can's format (dense, largely instrumental, mostly tonal jams laced with the occasionally noisy interlude and fusion turn).
Fricke's willingness to discard any notion of rock rhythm while keeping the psych aspects of length and repetition alive were indeed very unique. Further, on a conceptual level, he merged the music of acid culture with the austere, spiritual ruminations of Christian music.
i guess, having grown up with electronic music in the 90s as something readily available on friday late night radio, i lack the historical context to properly place popol vuh...and wasn't aware of the christian influence (as a musician i just think of it as 'playing in one key')..i have one popul lp and it sounds like three grateful dead instrumental jams playing together from transister radios..the other stuff sounds roughly like newage music, which (i'll take your word) was 'avante' it's time.
Yep. The quality of Fricke's output was largely inconsistent. I think his best works, which were also the most innovative upon release, are In Den Gaerten Pharaos, still electronic, but casting off most of those instruments in favor of a combination rock-chamber ensemble, and Hosianna Mantra (what this track is from), which is mostly acoustic instruments and does away with rock rhythm entirely. Both are also touched by chromatic flourishes that punch them up, IMO.
I can't lie. I've read Scaruffi, but it's difficult to disagree on this one. However, I dare you to find a "quote" exactly. You can simply say my opinion on this one is in alignment. That which is, is.
I definitely didn't mean to quote in an exact way, but it is true that Fricke's music was a merger of religious worlds. He said as much, too.
I think Scaruffi is a great jumping off point for people so long as they then listen to the records and come to their own conclusions.
My top five probably:
This Heat's self-titled (but Health & Efficiency is my fave song of all-time), PIL's Flowers, the Boredom's Super AE, Eno's Taking Tiger Mountain, and yep, Robert Wyatt's Rock Bottom.
gna be honest here pal rock bottom is probably the greatest "rock" album ever made. I reckon scaruffi thinks so aswell but thinks trout mask is the most important yeah nice top 5 like all them and cheers for the cover comment! my top 5 are frusciante-smile from the streets you hold vu- vu an nico mbv-loveless tim buckley-starsailor tom waits-rain dogs the only reason i stopped liking scaruffi is cause his jazz reviews are awful an im more of a jazz musician
I disagree that Fricke's music was inconsistent. I think Popol Vuh left behind an amazing varied body of music, most of which is great stuff. Perhap you confuse inconsistency with diversity. It's true that Fricke attempted many different musical styles and not all of it was successful but it makes for a fascinating discography and many gems--Herz aus Glas and Nosferatu are just as good.
Aside from both being German bands who incorporated electronic instruments into their music, I don't see Can and Popol Vuh as having much in common. I love them both but for very different reasons.
popol just isn't very tonally diverse or texturally challenging, in my opinion........historically it predated newage music.......great.........can are the sashimi deluxe and popol are an ok boxed flounder....but this is just my opinon.
I am an ELCA Lutheran from South Carolina. We have several Kyrie's in the Service Music section of Evangelical Lutheran Worship. They are in the Service Music section (#151-158). They are by: Dinah Reindorf, Franz Schbert & Richard Proulx, G.M. Kolisi, Avon Gillespie, Russian Orthodox, Plainsong, Marty Haugen, & Swee Hong Lin. Just thought I'd share.
liniquin - I'm at the other end of the time spectrum to you - have been listening to Popol Vuh for 30+ years. Their music remains as unique and as special as way-back-when.
I read the popol vuh in highschool, I can tell this is no insult to the book, this is like a tribute. Hermosas canciones de Popol Vuh, hermosa fué la civilización Maya.
Un suono senza tempo, senza luogo, una catarsi che libera l' anima dal corpo, una voce della madre di tutte le cose che ci prende per mano e ci porta in emozioni che mai e poi mai ci lasceranno....un abbraccio a tutti i cuori che hanno amato Hosanna mantra, un giorno nel suo grande cuore ci incontreremo....Ciao Geppo.
Looks like it was just 8mm stuff shot around Fricke's house or someone's studio. Very cool. Also: boners. Sorry, I just wanted to test out the audio preview thing.
mafaldiita, don't worry: popol vuh was a great, great band and they honored the Maya culture like no other. nobody could love maya as florian frieke did (popol vuh leader)
my favorite band.
seventeenboi 4 weeks ago
i want to put a label here, but i won't
spaceytutor 2 months ago
Hey, Look up!!! Florian Fricke is amazing! Don`t waste time on comments...
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ernesthemingfish 4 months ago
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MrPragalv 5 months ago
I love it!
VIVESCO100 5 months ago
when Nirvana, pearl Jam etc. became more popular in the late 80's early 90's, the industry began marketing new acts as "alternative, but all of a sudden, they all had to sound and look "alternative" according to the music industry record executives version of safe bland version of alternative thus killing the true meaning of the word..so when really diffierent sounding pop bands and rock bands rolled around, they didn't fit into that mold...all of a sudden..goodbye true creativity
EndlessNot1 6 months ago
What music should sound. I can't believe this is from the 70s
DeadlyDreamerX 6 months ago
@divinityboy wasn't meant as reinforcement, but if it makes you feel better, then by all means, you're reinforced
EndlessNot1 6 months ago
@divinityboy likewise, i'm sure divine one!!
EndlessNot1 6 months ago
This is called music.
DeadlyDreamerX 6 months ago
mi gustar escuchar rolon poca progenitora mucho bueno, ectasi coloidal de la reaccion sinergetica de la anorexia colombina.
vergolaga 8 months ago
Popol Vuh always seemed to me to be more spiritual than the other German bands of the '70s. Especially the track off this album called "Abschied"....I was listening to that on the way home from work one day and cried, because I felt so much simple gratitude and love in it. Absolutely beautiful.
Ghoopty 9 months ago
Outerworldly vibrations.
retrofaboo 11 months ago
fabelhaft !!
monkaa32 1 year ago
plus Klaus Wiese, Tambura, Robert Eliscu, Oboe
claudemalade 1 year ago
If anything, this genre has been labelled the most appropriately, detracting the least from their musical dexterity. The term is applied as they're all German rock bands of the post-war era, which has little do with their music; more their identity on an international basis. Much better than pinning them with a tag that reflects upon their overall sound, but I suppose that simply wasn't fathomable, due to the sheer breadth of each significant band's sound - they were all too experimental.
PabzGLRP 1 year ago
@PabzGLRP
When I get fancy about it, i just think, "early 70s Germany".
mobile513 9 months ago
@PabzGLRP
This is why I say we should sort everything by time and place. Early 70s, Germany.
mobile513 9 months ago
This is KOSMISCHE MUSIK !
palteonato 1 year ago
@palteonato No, cosmic music was Tangerine Dream or Cluster. This is early instrumental New Age!
TheTrancemaster90 10 months ago
Fenomenal ¡¡¡
ClubdelosVoladores 1 year ago
When you learn to capture the feeling from the music, the barrier of genres disappear.
lksj 1 year ago
@lksj That's what I tell my friends when they make fun of me for listening to Dragonforce
Straichen 1 year ago
nice music
swineburn 1 year ago
Krautrock is a broad term--
Faust is Krautrock-
I personally detest Faust
Popul Vuh is always pure emotion, pure wordless emotions
thee only thing all Krautrock has mainly in common is it is all very new and innovative: Klaus Schulze Tangerine dream, Neu, Kraftwerk, Guru Guru, (dreaded) Faust, Cluster , Conrad Schnitzler, Ash Ra Tempel
liverawkstar 1 year ago
this is so very hot.
MrLaurence19 1 year ago
He estado en los bosques,frente a las grandes piramedes mayas,en logares remotos observando las estrellas siempre escuchando popol vuh,ha macado mi vida para siempre.
Y lo conoci viendo las peliculas de herzog y kinsky.
lachompon 1 year ago
Popol Vuh fits like a glove in Werner Herzog movies.
CidadelaDoCaos 1 year ago
@CidadelaDoCaos it fits a bit TOO good, which is probably why every other herzog movie OST without these guys is meant to sound exactly like them
SpaceBambino 1 year ago
It's similar to Indian classical music cos you have some repetitive looping stuff and then improvisations over the top. What is cool is that A.R. Rahman (Slumdog Millionaire) and other modern Indian composers got into synths and copied dance styles that were copied from Kraftwerk that were copied from Indian music that inspired Krautrock...That's just my BS theory.
Sandyhendry 1 year ago
Wait a guy there playing a sitar. That explains the link.,
Sandyhendry 1 year ago
So beautiful
hawkcwg 1 year ago
very good make with your piano
1tigerblood 1 year ago
Beautiful music. Great band, period!
She creeps me out though...
nakedhand 1 year ago
Oooh, a bit creepy.
I'm liking it.
g0pi3 2 years ago 3
Sounds like Cocteau twins!
Sandyhendry 2 years ago
@Sandyhendry yup, popul vuh and most krautrock bands were very influenced by them
andrewcramer13 1 year ago
@andrewcramer13. You mean the other way around. This was 10-years before the
Cocteau Twins.
Sandyhendry 1 year ago
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andrewcramer13 1 year ago
I Like it
MacKlaus71 2 years ago 4
no proper style... for some ... for others its surely an original approach of music ...popol vuh used many (ethnically and culturaly) different colours of music from their travelling Bag ...for and with the surprised silences of the others and me.
BohemianConspiracy 2 years ago 4
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calisway 2 years ago
yes, that totally proves it. I guess that must mean that deep down I'm probably a jehovas witness or something
Benjamin666face 2 years ago
I can see how Germans could take Krautrock as derogatory....i'm Italian American and probably wouldn't appreciate the term "Wop-Rock" referring to Italian alternative music...
fujivoo 2 years ago 8
"Kosmiche Musik" was the term coined in Germany for the wave of bands that begain emerging in the late '60s there, many of which had completely different styles and backgrounds, but all shared a strong experamental bent, and varying degrees of fondness for psychedelia. In Britain, the term "Krautrock" was used by the press for the more popular groups such as Can and Faust which made their way across the channel. Some German musicians still think of it as derogatory, and I can't blame them.
BurningSpear213 2 years ago 3
Djong Jun (apologies to my Korean friends out here for spelling)!
Never thought I would see this!
UniweriaZekt 2 years ago
if you look at the so called "Alternative" bands of the 90's and early 2000's, ther's a sameness that can't be overlooked, sure there are a few exceptions, Wilco etc.. but compared to the New Wave/Alternative groups of the 70's and 80's which pretty much all ahd their own style and sound, what a difference, sorry if i'm going off on a tangent but it's an observation i can't ignore...Popol Vuh is a good example of that creative freedom you don't see anymore...bands are in a chokehold nowadays...
fujivoo 2 years ago 6
you're right, Krautrock is a more general term that can fit different music styles...like Tangerine Dream was very different from Amon Duul II who were very different from Can all under the Krautrock label....but when they started using the term Alternative to define a certain sound / style of rock, that pretty much killed the true meaning of what Alternative Rock was which was something different from the norm, the music industry knew what they were doing and all "Alternative" bands had to fit
fujivoo 2 years ago 2
but once you start labelling, you expect it to sound a certain way all the time, sometimes the artist won't want to change their style...look what happened with the "Alternative" label, once it became a marketing term, everybody expected "Alternative" rock to have a certain sound, thus killing the meaning of the word until all the so called "Alternative" bands look and sound the same, it is true though, we'll never get away from labelling...
fujivoo 2 years ago 12
I don't thnk about it too much to be honest. I mean I know many people call this Krautrock but I don't exactly know what that is.. seems like a catch all phrase for a lot of different styles (e.g. Can/TD/Amon Duul II all sound totally different). but at least it gets people listening to a lot of different styles... so I think calling this krautrock is ok as it gets people here in the first place... otherwise how would they find it? Accidentally perhaps... at least it speeds up the process.. ;-)
orangefunk 2 years ago 6
@fujivoo Certainly Popol Vuh should be thought of first and foremost as "Popul Vuh music". The term "Krautrock" is useful when we are looking at the broader musical world and want to make sense of it.
KingCrimson776 1 year ago
@KingCrimson776 agreed
EndlessNot1 1 year ago
@KingCrimson776
With Krautrock as label, we can look for the old 1970s experimental and avant-garde music, not necessarily new kind of rock.
DeadlyDreamerX 11 months ago
@fujivoo "alternative" was always a marketing term, it was created for that only purpose. when you talk about krautrock, you are referring to music that was made in a certain context under more or less the same premises concerning the making of the music. of course when that is developed by different people with different means the style results diverse, but the core remains. i think labellin is useful.
cpereira1345 6 months ago
@fujivoo even Faust recorded one song called Krautrock, we all know that. I guess what happened to the "alternative rock" label didnt happened to "krautrock", cause all these german bands are too good and diverse that it makes it really dificult to banalize them into just one word and even harder to have new bands copying what they sound like and making "krautrock" just another musical industry repetitive style
ffaustt 3 weeks ago
Why must we always put labels on music....just listen and either you like it or you don't...personally i like this whatever you wanna call it...just my opinion
fujivoo 2 years ago 6
unfortunately 'labels' are part of the process... otherwise how would people find the music... I daresay many people found this using the label krautrock.. even though its not particularly in that vein...
orangefunk 2 years ago
@orangefunk I think it sounds kinda new agey/folky to me. When I think krautrock I think Can, ADii, early Kraftwerk, stuff that had that really driving rock beat and hypnotic music. Thanks to that tag it got me to this though and im loving what im hearing. This doesnt sound like the Kyrie I know from letzte tage letzte nächte at all though which I think i like a lot better. scuze me but im kind of a PV newb
DJEricBliss 6 months ago in playlist Popol Vuh
@fujivoo I always say the same thing, can't understand these people obsessed with putting things into boxes
honeypower 3 months ago
@honeypower once music is labeled and packaged ...creativity becomes constricted
EndlessNot1 3 months ago
Awesome
carcasion 2 years ago
beautiful
Behnjamin 2 years ago
dope song, my fav. krautrock song has got to be 'Can - Halleluhwah' though
EisforEmpty 2 years ago
what about Djong Yun today? Is she still singing?
YuriDante 2 years ago
yo ya he tocado todo tipo de musica TODO pero algun dia espero tener mi banda celestial
fatherfocus 2 years ago
you have good taste in music my friend!
orangefunk 2 years ago
splendido! una vera gioia per la mente. om jaya namo vasudevajee !
TASSOPENSATORE 2 years ago
Prog Rock?
Neo Prog?
Jazz?
=S
Help me!
chelito19play 2 years ago
Simply Krautrock !
MrLubolupo 2 years ago
German Krautrock
didascalion 2 years ago
its 1973 it cant be neo prog
twilightdimension 2 years ago
My top five are:
Selbstportrait I and II ~ Roedelius
Fritz Muller Rock ~ Fritz Muller
Viva ~ La Dusseldorf
La Nordica ~ Roedelius
Goldregen ~ la! NEU?
BUT CAN WE PLEASE GET BACK TO THE POINT: POPOL VUH!
kosmischesynth 2 years ago
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phensley1 2 years ago
Popol Vuh: 100% intellectual music and 100% alternative music!
5 stars!
goblindigital2 2 years ago 7
Wonderful music
carrietide 2 years ago 16
Very wild and freaky stuff.
TextFreeley 2 years ago
Words cannot describe the beauty of Popol Vuh. They were truly unique, quite possibly the best band to emerge from Germany. My "In the gardens of Pharao/Aguirre" compilation CD will always remain the holy grail :-)
Strombolifan 2 years ago 6
Amazing, and by far my favorite era of PV...
siebenjager 2 years ago
Wonderful - didn't they work with Tangerine dream on Zeit?
templemu 3 years ago
Florian Fricke contributed the moog syntheziser to one track from the zeit album and its the best one on there "birth of liquid plejades", fantastic.
gurusaguru 3 years ago
Popol Vuh ist so göttlich!
Popol Vuh is so divine!
namaste91 3 years ago 3
Beauty is so fleeting.
pamphish 3 years ago
This feels so comfortable, the room, music, the people - exactly the kind of "seventies" gathering I grew used to in the 70's. We were a different lot. Oh, how I miss the seventies, and the people I knew then.
pamphish 3 years ago 3
I understand deeply what you're saying... seems to be past a thousand years from then
Endimione17 3 years ago
DOUBLE WOW!!!!!!
hidalgo2211 3 years ago
wow
GodOfChaosX 3 years ago
It's such a shame that there is very little footage available of them at all, but in a way it keeps the mystery. This is a stunning album, one of the best of the 70's.
Hindenzog 3 years ago
magical voice, sounds and spirit
rip florian
flirdy776 3 years ago 3
What the!? THIS STUFF IS AS GOOD AS CAN !
meinLiebsterFeind 3 years ago 2
not quite. but its still good
benmcmanus 3 years ago
No, I prefer Popol Vuh, definitely. This music is just amazing, Can is alright, but they cannot do this.
EMG1992 3 years ago 2
I like that your comparing krautrock bands, but the two are not really goin for the same thing, although Future Days does try to be more ambient, and the results of that one are quite nice, check it out if you'd like.
MikeAdupont 3 years ago
popol vuh weren't as layered as and physical as can -- plus popol vuh could be mistaken for several electronic artists whereas can were (perhaps) more authentic......popol vuh seemed to have more to do with what later got termed 'new age' but more interesting.
posthumanhero 3 years ago
Popol Vuh at their best are far more austere and erudite than any of Can's material. Later electronic artists may sound "like" Popol Vuh, but at their time, at their height, their unabashedly spiritual, meter and timeless sound was the most innovative turn in rock music since Tangerine Dream. Can were still quite derivative in spirit, if not sound, to American psychedelia (from the Dead to Red Crayola). Not to knock Can. They were one of the greatest for how far they pushed the "trip" in rock.
robwyattfan 2 years ago 7
so off-the-mark to me......can were highly sophisticated and original (not a trace of the influences you speak of ) and they had ideas, many of which confound me as a musician.....popoh vuh, however, was a vehicle for florian fricke evolving around [an] idea (the beauty of the major scale applied to various textures)....i like them but never viewed them as pioneers of anything -- i just don't think they're that special, but that's just my opinion.
posthumanhero 2 years ago
There is certainly a trace of those things simply in terms of Can's format (dense, largely instrumental, mostly tonal jams laced with the occasionally noisy interlude and fusion turn).
Fricke's willingness to discard any notion of rock rhythm while keeping the psych aspects of length and repetition alive were indeed very unique. Further, on a conceptual level, he merged the music of acid culture with the austere, spiritual ruminations of Christian music.
robwyattfan 2 years ago 4
i guess, having grown up with electronic music in the 90s as something readily available on friday late night radio, i lack the historical context to properly place popol vuh...and wasn't aware of the christian influence (as a musician i just think of it as 'playing in one key')..i have one popul lp and it sounds like three grateful dead instrumental jams playing together from transister radios..the other stuff sounds roughly like newage music, which (i'll take your word) was 'avante' it's time.
posthumanhero 2 years ago
Yep. The quality of Fricke's output was largely inconsistent. I think his best works, which were also the most innovative upon release, are In Den Gaerten Pharaos, still electronic, but casting off most of those instruments in favor of a combination rock-chamber ensemble, and Hosianna Mantra (what this track is from), which is mostly acoustic instruments and does away with rock rhythm entirely. Both are also touched by chromatic flourishes that punch them up, IMO.
robwyattfan 2 years ago
thx for the reccomendation.
posthumanhero 2 years ago 3
yet another piero scaruffi super fan quoting everything he says
papajoveth 2 years ago
I can't lie. I've read Scaruffi, but it's difficult to disagree on this one. However, I dare you to find a "quote" exactly. You can simply say my opinion on this one is in alignment. That which is, is.
robwyattfan 2 years ago
no you quote him exactly
il find where you have
and where you havent you've translated his ratings into sentance... i like a lot of frickes other works
granted hosianna mantra is pretty much the most complete
and im not that much of a radiohead fan... my drummer just likes the beats :)
at least you admitted you'd read him
some people claim to have never heard of him and put trout mask rock bottom faust vu and the doors as their top 5 albums
coincidence..
papajoveth 2 years ago
I definitely didn't mean to quote in an exact way, but it is true that Fricke's music was a merger of religious worlds. He said as much, too.
I think Scaruffi is a great jumping off point for people so long as they then listen to the records and come to their own conclusions.
My top five probably:
This Heat's self-titled (but Health & Efficiency is my fave song of all-time), PIL's Flowers, the Boredom's Super AE, Eno's Taking Tiger Mountain, and yep, Robert Wyatt's Rock Bottom.
robwyattfan 2 years ago
papajoveth 2 years ago
I disagree that Fricke's music was inconsistent. I think Popol Vuh left behind an amazing varied body of music, most of which is great stuff. Perhap you confuse inconsistency with diversity. It's true that Fricke attempted many different musical styles and not all of it was successful but it makes for a fascinating discography and many gems--Herz aus Glas and Nosferatu are just as good.
Tshea13 2 years ago 2
@robwyattfan can you suggest some of the electronic artists similar to popul vuh?
andrewcramer13 1 year ago
Aside from both being German bands who incorporated electronic instruments into their music, I don't see Can and Popol Vuh as having much in common. I love them both but for very different reasons.
Tshea13 2 years ago 3
popol just isn't very tonally diverse or texturally challenging, in my opinion........historically it predated newage music.......great.........can are the sashimi deluxe and popol are an ok boxed flounder....but this is just my opinon.
posthumanhero 2 years ago
Thank you Thank you from one my all time Fav Albums wonderul thank you so much for posting this little gem
Hawkwise 3 years ago
so beautifull!
eulenspygel1917 3 years ago
majestic and perfect
gurusaguru 3 years ago 4
I am an ELCA Lutheran from South Carolina. We have several Kyrie's in the Service Music section of Evangelical Lutheran Worship. They are in the Service Music section (#151-158). They are by: Dinah Reindorf, Franz Schbert & Richard Proulx, G.M. Kolisi, Avon Gillespie, Russian Orthodox, Plainsong, Marty Haugen, & Swee Hong Lin. Just thought I'd share.
mkl62 3 years ago
I have more than 400 cd's and Hosianna Mantra is my favoured of all!
eulenspygel1917 3 years ago
Hosianna Mantra it's a maserpiece of contemporary music. Amazing
GianlucaSpace 3 years ago 2
Orangefunk, man where do you get all this ultra cool footage from ? Do you have a secret access to the West Deutsche Rundfunk archives or what :-D ?
qadmos 3 years ago
Hehe.. nah not really... just an obsessive :)
orangefunk 3 years ago
liniquin - I'm at the other end of the time spectrum to you - have been listening to Popol Vuh for 30+ years. Their music remains as unique and as special as way-back-when.
spookysaurus 4 years ago 2
I have only just discovered these guys. Way before my time, but they are so dam good. I have got to get my hands on Hosianna Mantra.
liniquin 4 years ago
Two of them are people in heaven now.
elephanta2 4 years ago
Just beautiful music,played by sensitive people.
ThatsEwalds 4 years ago
Florian Fricke & Conny Veit rules !!!
aghorimaschine 4 years ago
Florian Fricke R.I.P.
aghorimaschine 4 years ago
amazing!!!
RadioDept 4 years ago
amazing!
RadioDept 4 years ago
Popol Vuh....a legendary band of mantra music.....Fantastic videodream !
Giovy46 4 years ago
I read the popol vuh in highschool, I can tell this is no insult to the book, this is like a tribute. Hermosas canciones de Popol Vuh, hermosa fué la civilización Maya.
sergioDGO 4 years ago
Un suono senza tempo, senza luogo, una catarsi che libera l' anima dal corpo, una voce della madre di tutte le cose che ci prende per mano e ci porta in emozioni che mai e poi mai ci lasceranno....un abbraccio a tutti i cuori che hanno amato Hosanna mantra, un giorno nel suo grande cuore ci incontreremo....Ciao Geppo.
Geppoprog 4 years ago
love to now more any imfo
scandys 4 years ago
Nice
EkBalam707 4 years ago
Nice style, intelligent and original, just like Mayans (beautiful and intelligent civilization, eventhough according to them our end is near).
Alfarouc17 4 years ago 3
Why was this filmed -- for a movie or a TV show?
freeform83 4 years ago
Looks like it was just 8mm stuff shot around Fricke's house or someone's studio. Very cool. Also: boners. Sorry, I just wanted to test out the audio preview thing.
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olgasoccerbroadgu 4 years ago
Hosianna mantra is my favorite Popol Vuh album, plus I like the Nosferatu soundtrack.
cathscribe 4 years ago
J'aimerais tant avoir encore d'autres images de Popol Vuh.
redmask5487 4 years ago
mafaldita no seas pendeja, creo que te saliste del contexto. El grupo se llama Popol Vuh y ellos admiran enormemente la cultura maya.
gordolfo23 4 years ago 2
Woa buen video, Aunque que no es Kyrie en su totatildad suena muy bien, al final creo acaban con un trozo de "Abschied" hermoso Oboe.
bambalandaus 4 years ago
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Good to see early Yoko footage, thanks!
cvp1969 4 years ago
I hope you are kidding, Yoko was about 40 in 1973
emersonballa2 4 years ago 2
Music of THE Soul. In my opinion they influenced (in particular sense the Singer) the great Artist Enya. Davvero un grande gruppo. Egidio
piainto 4 years ago
The vocalist is Yun Jung, the daughter of Yun Yi Sang.
He was one of the greatest German contemporary musicians.
zimbra67 5 years ago 2
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The Popol Vuh is a ancient book that tells the main believes of the maya civilization.
The song can't be named like that!!
Is insulting!!!
mafaldiita 5 years ago
Popol Vuh is the name of the band.
orangefunk 5 years ago
mafaldiita, don't worry: popol vuh was a great, great band and they honored the Maya culture like no other. nobody could love maya as florian frieke did (popol vuh leader)
qeimapa 4 years ago
No mames mafaldita, que pendeja...
demonication 4 years ago
Orangefunk, you're a hero!
PZawn 5 years ago
i love drugs lol
LADYxGORE 5 years ago
Florian Fricke looked all beaten up! :(
thedistinctroom 5 years ago
thanks thanks thanks thanks gracias amigo.
kawok 5 years ago
AMAZING...THANKS SO MUCH FOR SHARING
comfyft 5 years ago
Amazing! It's footage like this that is quickly turning me on to a band I knew very little about. Thank you!
psyramundo 5 years ago
Beautiful!
evansad 5 years ago
Pretty cool stuff. Thanks
adewolf 5 years ago