How Not to Join a Union

[Beantownpierce34]

Haha brainwashed. Keep working for your scabby pricks. Educate yourself. Try thinking for yourselffff

[SanguineBullet667]

Unions are socialist bully scum.

[nktank84]

@SanguineBullet667 yea because overtime and safety regulations are just terrible! dumbass

[studentofsmith]

@nktank84 Overtime effectively limits the number of hours you can work for a single employer, forcing many to take a second part-time job (at a lower rate of pay) rather than work additional hours for the same employer.

Safety regulations mandate minimum working conditions, the cost of which must be recouped in reduced wages or benefits. It limits the flexibility of employers to craft a compensation package which provides maximum appeal to employees at minimal cost to themselves.

[nktank84]

@studentofsmith Hey guess what? I'm not workin over 40 hrs a week for straight time so some company can make another billion! If you wanna work in a sweatshop with no regulations whatsoever go to CHINA and work. IF YOU WANT TO SEE HOW COMPANIES TREAT EMPLOYEES WITHOUT REGULATIONS JUST LOOK AT COUNTRIES LIKE CHINA THAT HAVE NO REGULATIONS. Over 5 THOUSAND men die in chinese mines every year because of NO REGULATIONS.

[studentofsmith]

@nktank84 Many companies in China have improved working conditions in an effort to attract and retain employees. They have done this because those improvements were worth more to the employees than an equivalent amount of money devoted to an increase in wages or benefits.

Wages, benefits and working conditions are better here because we have more capital equipment. Regulations purport to "give" workers something that's actually coming out of their paycheck. watch?v=WBRNXo0yLVk

[nktank84]

@studentofsmith No, things are better here because our forefathers fought for everything you take for granted. They shed blood for the working conditions and wages you enjoy. READ YOUR HISTORY MAN, NO COMPANY EVER GAVE ANY KIND OF IMPROVEMENTS, MEN FOUGHT FOR EVERY INCH. I know because my used to have to fight like hell for a damn $.25 raise from a company that was making record profits.

[nktank84]

@studentofsmith The last year I took MSHA training (2007) they told us that in China 5,000 miners died the year before, compared to 25 in America. How can you even think of saying that China's way is better? How can you claim that they give a damn about their workers in any way? By the way Chinese miners are so poor many can only afford to eat meat a couple times a year. I got that from National Geographic.

[studentofsmith]

@nktank84 If the Chinese government passed and effectively enforced mining regulations similar to those in the U.S. there would be no improvement in the working conditions of the mines, they would close. They simply don't have the capital equipment necessary to increase worker productivity to the point that they can afford to furnish their employees with such high safety standards.

Consider what would happen if Congress increased the minimum wage to $100/hour. Would that work?

[nktank84]

@studentofsmith You seem to forget that the U.S. was just like China at one point in history with no safety regulations whatsoever. But people got tired og being treated like a disposible resource, so they fought and, over time, things changed for the better. The fact that there are still thriving businesses here, proves you wrong. You assume that we were always where we are now and that there is no way for people like the chinese to move forward. THAT'S BULLSHIT.

[nktank84]

@studentofsmith You seem to say that our safety programs are all here because of equipment that we have. That's bullshit, If our forefathers hadn't of shed blood and fought for safer work places we wouldn't have them today.The safety evolution has cost companies a ton of money. But now were are at the point where our regulations and insurance costs are so critical that it is cost effective to provide a safe work place. What's wrong with that?

[studentofsmith]

@nktank84 "so they fought and, over time, things changed for the better"

Post hoc, ergo propter hoc.

"The fact that there are still thriving businesses here, proves you wrong."

Again I challenge you to predict the effects of a $100/hour minimum wage.

"You assume that we were always where we are now and that there is no way for people like the Chinese to move forward."

China must move forward the same way we did, investment in capital equipment.

[studentofsmith]

@nktank84 "so they fought and, over time, things changed for the better"

Post hoc, ergo propter hoc.

"The fact that there are still thriving businesses here, proves you wrong."

Again I challenge you to predict the effects of a $100/hour minimum wage.

"You assume that we were always where we are now and that there is no way for people like the Chinese to move forward."

China must move forward the same way we did, investment in capital equipment.

[studentofsmith]

@nktank84 Again I challenge you to predict the effects of a $100/hour minimum wage. If you respond with something like "That's ridiculous." I will ask you to explain why.

[Axmedkoole]

Today's economy Unions are NO different from the corporates the Union promised to protect you from. You pay Union dues/fees and can't even get a representative from the "Union" speak to your boss about something you are complaining about.

[studentofsmith]

In most places an employer is legally required to recognize a union and negotiate with them. They cannot decide that the unions demands are unreasonable, fire them and go through the time and expense of hiring and training a new workforce. This gives unions a monopoly over labor. They can shut down a business by refusing to work. Employers, however, cannot bar striking union members from finding employment elsewhere. This power imbalance gives unions an unfair advantage during negotiations.

[Lobos222]

@studentofsmith

This is BS.

In some cases the workers dont strike, but the employer puts up a lock out.

Its not a negotiation if one side can just say no and fire everyone.

Thats so obvious its asinine to point out as a con against unions.

If you do business in a country you should expect the gov of that country to have laws and regulation to secure its income, society and its citizens fairly unless its a fascist or dictatorial state.

[studentofsmith]

@Lobos222 "Its not a negotiation if one side can just say no and fire everyone."

By that logic it's not a negotiation if one side can just say no and quit en masse.

The truth is it's not a negotiation unless both sides are free, at any time, to walk away from the deal.

Besides, all I'm asking is that striking employees cannot go out and get alternative employment during the strike just as the business cannot go out and hire replacement employees during a lockout. Doesn't that seem fair?

[Lobos222]

@studentofsmith

"The truth is it's not a negotiation unless both sides are free, at any time, to walk away from the deal."

Companies already have this right.

They can shut down shop and move at any time regardless of unions if they want to.

If companies expect to be allowed to function as a company within the boarders of a nation they shouldnt be surprised there are regulations put in place to protect both sides.

Normally, where I live, you can not take part time jobs in competing businesses.

[studentofsmith]

@Lobos222 So in order to walk away from their deal with the union they also have to walk away from their deal with the landlord? When Mircosoft did this by bundling software it was called anti-competitive.

No one is denying the importance of regulations. This discussion is about what those regulations should be. A prolonged strike or lock-out is not in the public interest (nor, generally, is binding arbitration) so there should be strong financial pressure on both sides to reach an agreement.

[1963danno]

@studentofsmith BOO HOO

[jfuex]

Perhaps it would be smarter to improve your working situation by finding ways to provide value to the organization and increase your negotiating position instead of thuggery and blackmail. Nice propaganda piece, though.

[buffdiggy]

LIUNA

[Rynx214]

The "official" channels for making unions might be clogged, but it's not hard to solve your problems in other ways.

If your boss is mistreating you, go to his boss. In almost all cases, you can find a good person within 3 bosses up who will put an end to it. If you can't, go find yourself a new job. Often just by looking elsewhere you'll improve your situation where you are.

Whatever you do, don't join a big union. They mistreat their members horribly, probably worse than what you've got.

[Lobos222]

@Rynx214

Good luck with that if unions are gone and its a economical profitable tactic to keep workers rights down.

Then where would you find a job? Another country where the unions still had a say? LOL, irony.

Maybe you should also look up the warnings valid whistle blowers gives about their treatment of the "third boss" up. No rights equals no guaranties.

Everything is easy until you get into a conflict of some sort.

Thats when the issues start and unions do their work.

[mockingbird83]

god bless america

[TheMango121]

I rather make more money working hard then joining a union.

Thanks but No thanks!

[ed11561]

@TheMango121 I see that u r 1 dumb fuck that thinks union workers do not work hard.

Your comment shows your stupidity.Have fun paying your medical,dental,& vision benefits at half the pay scab.

[TheMango121]

@ed11561

Nope I like to get rewarded for my hard work is the point. I like for my effort to increase the amount of money I make. I have worked for unions before.

I made 28 bucks and hour, and some worthless bastard next shift made the same but done WAY LESS WORK.

Unions aren't what they use to be. I respect IRONWORKER unions, but not industrial ones.

My insurance is a measly 60 bucks a week....Thats about 5% of my check.

No biggie.

[cadu1995]

@TheMango121 I'm a union Carpenter working on things like The WFC & the WTC & Power plants etc. All commercial.Sometimes their r worthless pieces of shit that r actually the 1's running the job that do nothing-there r always worthless pricks but there are alot of good guys also.I'm a shop steward-taking times,etc.But i always do the work-some assholes never work.I get paid $72/hr with benefits but only $44/hr & after taxes take home about $1100

[J1980Thomas]

@cadu1995 So you are saying you provide cheap labor to a banker and he in-turn rapes the land with mortgages. Non-thinkers like you should get shot.

[cadu1995]

@TheMango121 LOL Shit i worked for some asshole who manufactured Culvert Pipe in a factory & he paid people according to how big their family was & i was single & ran rings around all of them & i got paid less than ALL of them. UNION FOREVER.

[J1980Thomas]

@cadu1995 So why didn't you learn the trade and open your own culvert pipe? I'll tell you. You are a worker bee and always will be one.

[cadu1995]

@J1980Thomas Open my own culvert pipe?????Boy u are a total asshole. Why don't u open up your toilet bowl & shampoo your hair asshole? lol

[J1980Thomas]

@ed11561 Union members have no balls.

[cadu1995]

@J1980Thomas LOL That's a really intelligent comment ASSHOLE.

[cadu1995]

@TheMango121 So that $28 extra for benefits goes to Health&welfare,annunity-pensio­n,etc. Out of that i pay $400/Wk. JUST ON MEDICAL-FOR MYSELF.$1600 A MONTH 4 1 PERSON-So the fucking insurance company is being supported by me.

BUT if i didn't have the union-i'd be taking home $500/wk.Maybe $800 at tops.

So i'm UNION all the way brother.

[cadu1995]

@TheMango121 Obviously you know NOTHING about working in the NYC Carpenters Union because is you DON'T work hard- you get FIRED buddy-boy.

Unless you're the bosses son of course & that's in every line of work.Or a relative.Those bastards get free pay anywhere.But if u think working hard is going to bring u more money-u r sadly mistaken in almost all areas of work

[TheMango121]

@cadu1995

"But if u think working hard is going to bring u more money-u r sadly mistaken"

I started off making 12 bucks an hour shoveling dirt, laying pipe, and grading roads. I moved up to equipment operator In 2 years(17 bucks hour). After 1 year of being an operator I'm now a foreman making 60k salary a year(not including bonuses for job completion). Add 401k, and profit sharing over 30 years I will have close to 1million or more waiting on me when I retire. Oh and gas is free/company truk

[cadu1995]

@TheMango121 Good for you. I hope u don't work for Enron & have your pension blow up. The majority of contractors do not get what u do.But last year i made over $100,000-took 2 months off & have annuity,pension,health & welfare,dental,vision,& get vacation checks 4 times a year-anywhere from $2,500 to $3,500-free money-a bonus. I do not get any free gas though-oh well.

[TheMango121]

My company is a road building company out of Virginia. We are employee owned, meaning the better our company does, the more money we make. We aren't working for "the brass" we are working for ourselves. But you also give up something else. Working out of town, away from you're house. That sucks sometimes but they try their best to put you working on jobs near you're home!

Nice chatter

[cadu1995]

@TheMango121 Good for you- as long as u don't have some lazy ass sucker on top who doesn't like to work & takes home twice as much as everyone else. Good luck.

Working out of town sucks-been there done that.As they say,"You do what u have to do."

[TheMango121]

@cadu1995 Here is how its works.... You can ONLY be president for 3 years In my company, after that you step down and allow OTHER people qualified to do that position. It goes like this; President (college req)  Vice President (college) Asst. Vice president (college) General Project Engineer (college) Project Engineer(s) (college) General Superintendent (15 years service) Superintendent(s) General Foreman(s) Foreman(s) HE operators Laborers

[cadu1995]

@TheMango121 Sounds good.

[J1980Thomas]

@cadu1995 Why don't you turn your skill into a small buisness? No balls huh? 

[cadu1995]

@J1980Thomas I did asshole. Why don't you open up a book to find out how to spell words?

[rolingpingu]

@J1980Thomas Bcuz he wants to work where he works and that lately creating an effective buisness has bcome hard.

[SanguineBullet667]

Our Union saved my mother's job from some stupid accountant's error downstairs. Businesses don't care about you, they care about profits. Workers have Rights too!

[olipop84]

UNIONISTS=PARASITES, they latch onto a job which they themselves could never have created and then make demands. despicable looters!!

[shaithis45]

@olipo84, I spent my time in the private industry and not one stable job came my way and nobody was hiring in my professional background and all the computer experience i had working as a temp. didn't get my foot in the door. So I took a state job (relocated to that state) for stable pay and benefits.  Tried working as a trucker for Swift and just got taken for hard work and time put in. I've put my time into the workforce and made my play however I'm part of a union.

[olipop84]

My fundamental opposition to unions is that they entile workers not on merit, but their collective coercive force. Overall,they prevent more qualified workers from entering a field if they dont have seniority or pull. Whats this does to innovation, productivity and economic growth is evident if you look at sectors with unionized work forces. Remember that it is the businessman that creates the jobs, not the workers. Furthermore, if workers find conditions unfair, they should go elsewhere.

[shaithis45]

@olipop84 and that is exactly what I did. I went into the public sector because the work/jobs just were not there in the private sector. I just rebuilt up my experience, applied for a public sector job and got it. Part of that was paying union dues since the state had a union contract in force. That just came with the position and the process actually took well over a year from time of application submitted to finally getting hired on. I opted for stability with benefits cont.

[shaithis45]

@olipop84, as far as businesses in general I think I just wish to point out the most unfair positions out there are to be found in trucking where one is underpaid for working 60-70 work weeks. It still goes on today though to where some companies just exploit their workers vs. paying a fair wage and I went through that mainly with Swift Trans. for over two years. Wasn't worth the life sacrifice delivering goods in all 48 states w/ very unstable pay however one got to travel.

[shaithis45]

@olipop84, the trucking industry as it stands does recognize any merits for time put in. In that field you stop driving for a set time to try something else and it is very difficult to get back in. Even with prior experience if it is outdated companies will start you at the bottom of the pay scale. I'm surprised drivers still put up with that crap and the way trucking companies do business, they will be headquartered in states that don't have many labor laws cont.

[shaithis45]

@olipop84 cont. there is nothing wrong in pursuing a position in the public sector however that job may or may not be unionized. The overall point is I took a route giving me stability and benefits because all the temp. work I was doing beforehand never materialized into permanent positions with anyone company. Even though businesses are created, skilled workers are in demand and I just applied my experience accordingly.

[shaithis45]

@olipop84, in addition if one is living in CA and if one goes to work for Swift, then CA law doesn't protect you when it comes to overtime because as a trucker you are paid by the mile. So sweat shop labor is alive and well out there which is why I'd like to see these trucking companies working with unions again because as the industry stands, the trucking industry can fuck with a drivers career choices. Not worth the time or hard work if the money is not there.

[symbolmk]

WORKERS UNITE! The working class has been abused and robbed by the management, we must rise and act as one!

Separate we are weak!

Unionized we are strong!

[jeffmagic32]

Nobody buys this propaganda. Elections work just fine.

[spots2012]

Christ. I can't believe some people are actually anti-union.

Unions are a simply a monopoly of labour.

Employers are a monopoly of jobs.

It would be all very well if there were lots of companys employing, but fact is, there is often only one company... So one union balances things.

[new01]

I wan't to keep all the money I earn for MY labour. On top of that unions prevent companies from hiring as many employees(many of whom need the job more so than the union worker) as unions tend to demand outrageous wages for simple jobs. Remember, the employee is just as important as the employer and both are the consumer. Why not just negotiate for higher pay for yourself, instead of raising the union's. That way you don't effect the price of goods as much or prevent jobs from others.

[shaithis45]

@new01, until anyone you know has tried working in general frieght trucking (non union companies headquartered in right to work states) like Swift Trans and countless others, then you really don't know what it is like to be ripped off and abused by a system that will chew you up and spit you out and bar you from building a successful career as a trucker. I'm for unionizing when it comes down to abuses in the workforce and trucking companies have abused their drivers.

[bhmn]

Holy shhit it's the MOUSTACHE RAPIST!RUN!!!

[dina30141]

Stratvic,

PROVE IT BIGMOUTH!!!

[stratvic]

It?

[trashcan1111]

And that, is why we outsource.

[Chi2Cal433]

I think your head outsourced to your ass! YOUR PUSSY SMELLS LIKE A TRASH CAN!!! You have no clue! Face it their will always be unions, find something new to bitch about like those Bounty Rolls you stick in your pussy, because those tampons are to small for that Jet Hanger you call a cunt, you stupid bitch.

[justatypical]

Chi2Cal433 is definitely an uneducated union member. You can tell because they don't know to use the right "their" (their/there/they're) or the right "to" (to/too).

Maybe you should go back to grade school and relearn English. This time, don't rely on your Mommy to do your homework. Typical union worker to not do their own work.

[stratvic]

Unions are parasites on society. If you don't like your conditions you have a vote that counts...fire your boss! ... by finding a new job.

We don't need mob rule to replace civil voluntary association. We suffer enough from that under government.

[Chi2Cal433]

You got parasites in your pussy fagget, if you don;t like unions keep it to your self,FUCK FACE!! I made 120,000 last year and only worked 9 months, yeah Unios suck alright, thats why I am doing better than you.

[stratvic]

If your earnings are due to the union rather than your abilities and the demand for your skills and talents....then the gain that you attribute to the union is extortion money. That your mob is not illegal does not change the fact that it is a mob and your employer your victim.

No doubt you will bleed your employer into the dirt like every strong union has in history. Ever thought why the government is the last employer standing that suffers the affliction of a unionised work force?

[ColumbiaCowboy]

Unions MEAN your pay is based upon your skills and talents, that they're not stolen by management. It's not extortion, it's fair treatment of the workers who CREATE the wealth management lives on.

The lie that every strong union "bled employers" is another union-busting myth. The strongest businesses treat their employees fairly, and that PARTNERSHIP is what succeeds.

[ColumbiaCowboy]

Workers having the right to stand up for their rights is not "mob rule" it's democracy.

Those opposing unions are the parasites, wanting the people who do the work to NOT be those who enjoy the benefits, but those in management who steal from the workers.

[stratvic]

I agree, "The strongest businesses treat their employees fairly, and that PARTNERSHIP is what succeeds". And it is that partnership that generates wealth.

Democracy is mob rule. Forming a gang is not partnering it is preferential and mutually beneficial to forming voluntary relationships free of threats and coercion a solution that excludes the formation of unions.

Unions have a stubborn habit of killing the businesses that they feed off and do not partnering with business for prosperity.

[bootsyjr]

Unions don't feed off of businesses. Due money comes from the employees pockets, not management.

[stratvic]

Businesses are cooperative organisations. The money comes from the business as a whole.

Unions are not workers. Unions prey on workers and businesses. The workers may get a short run benefit but ultimately the business and in many cases whole industries collapse under the parasitic draining through above market pay rates and conditions.

[ColumbiaCowboy]

Lie. The workers have no REASON to want their business to fail, and EVERY reason to want it to succeed. The unionbashers arguments are based in such obvious lies that there's not even a shred of common sense. WHY would you want the place you work, AND which you put so much work into helping your fellow employees, to NOT succeed?

Unions want business to be successful so ALL can enjoy the benefits of the success.

[stratvic]

Does paying above market rate wages tat are higher than the competition make you more or less competitive?

Does being more competitive make you more likely to survive or less?

Unions want unions to be successful. Unions care about unions, less for workers they represent, and not at all for the workers they do not represent or the community and society. As for business they care to maximise their rewards, and little for robust growth and resilience. Hence the host failure rate.

[ColumbiaCowboy]

More, if they're better employees. And, again, you're an absolute IDIOT if you cannot see that workers want their companies to succeed. If they don't, they lose their jobs. And yes they DO represent the community and society, while you ONLY want the owner to get wealthy, while everyone else suffers. EVERY worker, union or not, benefits from unions...higher wages, safety protections. The 40 hour work week and child labor laws exist ONLY because of unions.

[stratvic]

Do unions create better employees or just more expensive employees?

Workers want employers to succeed, but unions are not workers. Workers also want to get paid well. This desire is, without unions, tempered by the market, with unions it is tempered only by failure. Living on the edge of failure ensures failure to negative competitive or economic conditions.

You forget closed shops and the increase in prices caused by unions. Child labour laws are a function of government and politics.

[ColumbiaCowboy]

Better employees. Better trained employees, employees who are more loyal, who have better work records, more seniority and experience, safer working conditions so they're more productive.

Unions want their company to succeed, saying "the market" without unions people were NOT being paid a remotely decent amount, and unions have NOTHING to do with failure. closed shops are good, people aren't stealing the benefits of union membership. Child labor laws exist ONLY because of unions. Fact.

[stratvic]

Better employees by what standard? ... More productive? Better value?

Unions don't train, they induct and corrupt voluntary associations and agreements between employer and employee with thuggery.

Can't see the association between seniority or experience and unions or none.

Are closed shops good for all workers or just current employees and those that kowtow to the unions.

Wages without unions are determined by mutual consent.

Unions don't make laws politicians do.

[ColumbiaCowboy]

Unions DO train, provide better employees, better paid and longer serving and have more committment to their work. Union-busting stores turn over employees faster and have worse employees because YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR. Closed shops aren't good for anyone but the boss and his private jet. UNIONS determine wages by mutual consent. Without, its whatever the BOSS decides.

That unions got child labor laws and safety protections is historical fact. You don't know a thing about labor history.

[stratvic]

Some unions exclude other workers through licensing and required membership.

Turnover does not mean less experience because working in many different firms is better than working inly in one.

Closed shops are only good for unions. That is why they create them.

Unions determine wages through extortion. Without them the employee decides whether to accept employment conditions, employers need to offer attractive wages.

Unions change laws to the extent that they motivate voters only.

[ColumbiaCowboy]

Membership is required because ALL workers benefit from the union. Otherwise, some would live under the umbrella of protection without paying for it...also known as "theft." And to say "turnover doesn't mean less experience" is hilarious. Of course lots of turnover isn't good.

Closed shops are good for ALL, again you want to STEAL protection of the union without paying for it.

Calling a negotiated settlement "extortion" is a lie. '

Unions change laws that benefit workers.

[stratvic]

Not all workers benefit from union membership only those in the union. Those outside the union are harmed by the operation of a union. Closed shops are an attack on all other workers and the host businesses of parasitic unions.

Settlements in the face of black mail, obstruction, threats, violence, property damage, and breach of contract are not negotiated they are products of extortion.

[ColumbiaCowboy]

Lie, EVERY worker benefits from the union. Higher wages and better conditions exist for ALL because of the union, that doesn't harm anyone. Closed shops mean you cannot STEAL those benefits without paying for them.

Calling workers coming together for the benefit of all "blackmail" is a lie, and FAR more obstruction and threats and violence come from management than labor. Contracts are NOT extortion, your attempts to gut unions are. Your lack of historical knowledge is obvious.

[stratvic]

Unions are both the enemies of the businesses they prey on, the workers who they coerce to join, and the workers they exclude from employment.

Closed shop are a monopoly for the union formed and maintained through coercion.

Calling something a lie doesn't change the facts. If you are looking for the tyrant look for those that use force, threats, and coercion... its the union.

Contracts are not extortion, but threatening damage unless you sign a contract is.

[ColumbiaCowboy]

Just gonna keep repeating the same sick lies, even as you're shown to not know what you're talking about, huh?

Unions are NOT the enemies of business--again, only an IDIOT would WANT to lose their job, union workers work together with management for the success of the best businesses. They are NOT enemies of the workers they protect and represent, NOR do they excluse ANYONE from employment.

There is NO coersion in not allowing people to steal services without paying for them.

[stratvic]

"only an IDIOT would WANT to lose their job" ...

Or someone under duress.

... "union workers work together with management for the success of the best businesses."

Like the steel, ship, and auto workers?

Ultimately business fail due to union involvement. History is a great guide to this. The only unionised industries that have not fallen into decline or moved away are those in the government and those tied to local resources like mining. All the others leave the country or go bankrupt.

[ColumbiaCowboy]

Lie. Those businesses failed because of the economy NOT the workers. PLENTY of unionized businesses thrive, PLENTY of non-unionized industries have failed. You have no clue what you're talking about, bosses who want to keep the sweat of the workers as their OWN profit slander the workers and bash unions, the ONLY tool workers have to defend themselves.

[stratvic]

When economic conditions change it is the weakest that fail. Those most afflicted by unionism or other weaknesses die out first. It is the inherent weakness of union bearing businesses that ensures that over time they are more likely to drop out leaving the strong to survive.

Their are other reasons businesses fail, weakness comes in many forms and are cumulative.

Workers have a very powerful tool to protect themselves they can leave and find another job for better pay and conditions.

[IPOMonster]

How could The MOnster forget the Union workers? They are:

1. Fat

2. Uneducated

3. Lazy

4. Demanding

5. Grossly unproductive

6. Lack any sort of creativity or ingenuity.

7. They've destroyed American business, and the long-standing pride that comes with "American-Made"

[ColumbiaCowboy]

You forgot to call them all Commies, or question their sexual orientation.

If you've got nothing but mudslinging and cheap personal attacks and sleazy lies, might as well go all-out.

We get a room full of people who know nothing about labor but have only been filled with hateful propoganda about how awful workers are. That our American workers "destroyed American business" is the dumbest comment imaginable.

[Chi2Cal433]

Shut the fuck up!! You have no clue at all what your talking about! The more you open that Cum dumpster of yours, the more you look like a complete IDIOT!!!

[IPOMonster]

Unions are the reason American cars are shitty.

The reason why The MOnster only buys Lexus

And the reason why jobs are being shipped overseas.

What sane business owner would want to pay fat, lazy, uneducated, and ungrateful retards $40.00 an hour to do a job a monkey could do?

Blue-collar nothings...

[ColumbiaCowboy]

Yeah, I bet.

In fact this guy probably drives a skateboard to his job at Wal-Mart, whose illegal union-bashing activities fill the heads of thier employees with this trash.

[IPOMonster]

Columbia...

Sorry son - The MOnster has a degree in Economics from USC.

When you broke dumbass Union fucks apply for a loan, The MOnster makes well over 100k per year to DENY it.

What a gig, huh?

Humph.

[ColumbiaCowboy]

We believe you. Really. And you won a Grammy and married Marilyn Monroe, too.

Of course, there's a chance this is all true-which is all the more pathetic. That people get rich slamming working people, and spend time attacking American working people on YouTube says a lot.

People can have Masters degrees and be very uneducated, as you've shown.

[buffdiggy]

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[fettaspetta]

So a styling mustache is what signifies management?

[johnkyblue]

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