7/7 The Conspiracy Files vs Ripple effect - part 5 of 6

[26wordy]

what about nicolas sarcozy saying that one of the bombers names had be listed a a british intelligence asset when he had a meeting with british before the bombing(he was french defence minister at the time or something).

[26wordy]

I mean that mulim kid was right on the money which is what this film's about and thank god for it all seemed a bit one sided before and to be honest that all sounded equally unbeievable . fooling these guys into being blown up by planted bombs. how the hell did they know theyd's die etc. But there are still questions.

[OneVoiceMore]

The faux outrage by the governments is transparent. When they spend 364 days a year trying every way they can to screw the common man, they squeal like a girl when they get called on it around the 365th.

[bkelaries]

Peter Power has a point-London is a big capital city,there is pretty high chance of a terrorist attack happening,especially on tube trains as they are a pretty big landmark of London. Its common sense to practice for these possible events,you be amiss not to do it.

[RDWPtv]

The BBC is a modern government weapon of propaganda.

[nemesis20201]

@RDWPtv fucking Islam evil

[rlilewis]

Finding some shit in a flat is not evidence. So am I to believe that never in history has "evidence" not been planted by blacks ops teams to frame people.... please.

There was even a story in the news a while back of police breaking into people's houses and robbing stuff to show the owners how easy it is to break in and to be more cautious. Mi5 and other secret organisations have the best funding, equipment and knowledge to do this kind of stuff.

[gunthaarz]

Drop a steel hammer from 2 miles if you wish, does it turn to dust on impact? Drop a ton of steel on a steel hammer, does the hammer turn to dust?

if you have intelligence enough to understand _irony_ :

watch?v=KDHN1gBkx0M&feature=re­lated

[punkguylewy]

the videos made like ' ripple effect,' are, in my opinion just as bad as the ones made by the media. They use scary background music and even subliminal messages, I feel like I am stuck in the middle of two extremists, on one side the media, with all the bull shit they present and on the other side the conspiracy theorists.

[FIZZYYAM]

The government is overrun by the secret societies, freemasons, Fabians etc.

GOVERNMENT NEEDS AN EXTERNAL THREAT TO EXIST, ALWAYS HAVE!

Excercise Osiris THE FREEMASONS GOD!!!!!

[BINGLEBOG1]

Not so my friend, the next available train would not have got there train bombers there on time, AS the time tables shows. Now check out the photo of the 4 bombers entering the station, the bottom rail of the steps guard behind the third SUPPOSED bomber goes through HIS left leg, are your eyes painted on or what?

[WarrenCromartie2]

Oh and Moa Dib (sp?) is from Dune, it;s not an Arabic name.

[WarrenCromartie2]

I think all the claims made by conspiracy theorists, have been effectively debunked by this film. I've yet to see anything that explains all the anomalies around 9/11, but with regard to 7/7, I'm inclined to think it happened as we were told. At the absolute worst, the government and MI5 may have known it was going to happen, and allowed it to go ahead, but even that is mere speculation based on an inherent suspicion of politicians, and has no actual foundation.

[BINGLEBOG1]

@WarrenCromartie2 So give us the detail, which facts do you think are contrived. can you tell us?

Again as swith the other one, I think not, but time will tell, wont ity.

[WarrenCromartie2]

@BINGLEBOG1 The train times, for one. Yes, the train the bombers were supposed to have caught was indeed cancelled from Luton that day. John Reid acknowledged this mistake in parliament at the time. They could have caught the next train and still been in London on time. You can find tiny 'evidence' of conspiracy wherever you look. HOWEVER, the current inquest needs to be grilling on intelligence on the bombers and the connection of Haroon Rashid Aswat.

[BINGLEBOG1]

@WarrenCromartie2

How could the bombers blow them selves up on the trains and bus and still be running around Canary hours later to be assinated by the secret service???

Damn clever these Muslim Bombers, are you telling us that they are miracle workers?

You will be telling us next, that they can walk on water. LOL

[WarrenCromartie2]

@BINGLEBOG1 What actual evidence do you have that it was the bombers who were shit in Canary Wharf?

[WarrenCromartie2]

I think all the claims made by the conspiracy theorists are effectively debunked by this film. I've yet to see anything that completely dispels all the anomalies around 9/11, but with regard to 7/7, I'm inclined to think it happened as we were told. At the absolute worst, the authorities may have known it was going to happen, and allowed it to go ahead, to bolster public support for their foreign policies. Even then, that is nothing more than speculation, with no actual foundation.

[standupEFC]

What balir said afterwards doesn't matter as he is still mentioning muslims despite th elack of evidence.

[Runescaper1429ROCKZ]

@standupEFC you cant base much on that just because we all are humans and do make mistakes, however I do not question the fact that there are, in fact, some flaws in the British Government's version of the 7/7/05 attacks.

[stokey72]

WHY DONT THEY iINCLUDE PEOPLE FROM OTHER CULTURES

ASTONIISING CO INCIDENSE. YOU DONT HAVE TO BE A MUSLIM TO KNOW

FALSE FLAG ATTACKS

THEY ARE EVIL BASTARDS . WE KNOW HITLER DID IT .CIA DID IT IN VIETNAM

ETC .FALSE FLAG ATTACKS HAVE BENN USED THROUGH OUT HISTORY

[gunthaarz]

This is the most dishonest BBC piece to date!

[gunthaarz]

Note the scary music and the darkness used as often as possible. the ominous tower of TV sets glowing in the dark all the time.

[ScottishAtheist]

What because when light is cast on to the claims made by conspiracy theories, they're shown to be batshit insane and without merit? That would annoy me too mate if I were that gullible.

"Note the scary music and the darkness used as often as possible."

LOL seriously? You go watch anything by Alex Jones or fuckwits that make 9/11 videos and this is ALL they do - all presentation. scary music, quote out of context, creative editing. It's a game to them mate, and if you buy it you're the sheep.

[stokey72]

@ScottishAtheist YOUR NAME SAYS IT ALL IGNORANT.

[ScottishAtheist]

@stokey72 You hurt my feelings stokey72 honestly. I'm going to have to consult your mother about your behavior.

[gunthaarz]

@ScottishAtheist I'll tell you what. You try to explain why for the first time in history a 1000 professionals from a traditionally _very_ conservative profession speak out at risk of their careers & income. A group that never before spoke out, not even during the Vietnam war with the murders of millions of innocents. Well, it's because they can SEE the obvious physics with their own eyes. incidentally I do have a university degree, but not even that is necessary to comprehend the physics.

[BINGLEBOG1]

@ScottishAtheist

And what exactly, does the music have to do with the facts???

This youtube video is the light thats been shone on the government story and it reveals the lies that our government has told.

What facts do you dispute? Can you tell us? My guess is that you cant, cos your all wind and pith

AM I RIGHT?

[gunthaarz]

the BBC pretends they do not and cannot know what kind of a name muad'dib is. As if none of their journalists can use google!!! What utter DISHONEST SHILLS!!!! Muad'dib is among the best known sci-fi characters EVER: KYLE MCLAHAN IN THE MOVIE DUNE form mid 1980s!!! EVERYONE KNOWS IT. which is why noone has even bothered mentioning it here!!! But the BBC shills keep reffering to the "muslim SOUNDING name". Lets watch the credits and take the names of the BBC employees who made this SHIT!

[gunthaarz]

Perverting the course of justice is actually severely punishable by law. We'll have these people in court for disinforming the public and unserious journalism. When we have changed government they will get theirs. This should warn all and anyone who thinks they can profit from disinfo, or helping to disinform or cloud the public in criminal investigations. Let them feel the force of the true laws.

[stokey72]

@gunthaarz yeah but Dune did end in JIHAD . Did David Lynch make the film ,someone said it wasnt as good as the book. TRY MAKING A BOOK OUT OF A DAVID LYNCH FILM I SAID.

[gunthaarz]

"we now know a lot more about the bombings" . what utter bullshit the BBC is capable of letting people read on air.

[Neanderthalcouzin]

This whole documentary calls questioning 7/7 in any way "conspiracy theory", even when there's no theory in many instances, just observations and questions.

Secondly, they take this undifferentiated group they've classified as all 'conspiracy theorists' and implies they are all Muslims.

Tony Blair following up his statement with a caveat that not all muslims are bad does not disprove that he made these statements prematurely.

[RavenPrecept]

Reed Publications, the people who publish New Scientist. On the day Peter Power did not want to mention who his clients were. "The hairs on the back of my neck are still standing ... as I realise they were the exact same stations". "We went from slow time thinking to quick time thinking"

What he says in hindsight in this BBC documentry seems like a re-writing of history when compared to what he said on the day. Maybe it's just a clarification.

[yurthammer]

roeschuxxx,

Try watching the video.

The private client was mentioned by name in the video.

Six people from a publishing house took part in the mock exercise.

OMG, inside jorb!!!!

Fucking retard.

[gunthaarz]

This juvenile "Yurt" is everywhere spouting his namecalling, inventing his own evidence and facts. He has no conceptions of what even the simplest laws of physics are not can he conduct a civil debate. He disqualifies himself totally and utterly everywhere he goes on youtube, to the point where its almost fascinating to watch someone that inane and that thorougly intent on behaving juvenile. ignore all his spoutings.

[yurthammer]

roeschuxxx

If you bothered listening to the video, the name of the private client is mentioned.

Are you that fucking stupid???

Six people from a publishing company took part.

OMG, inside jorb!!!

LMFAO at truthers!!!

[FightTheElite]

@yurthammer

If you bothered reading books on the subject matter, you might get beyond you tiny point and see the bigger picture.

ROFLMFAO at debunkers.

[roeschuxxx]

funny that we still don't know who the private client was for which peter power has worked.

bbc itself is a hoax

[thelostlibertine]

@roeschuxxx it tells you in this...

[1878EFC2008]

@roeschuxxx

Um what does that even mean?

[FightTheElite]

Interesting how they put up a straw man and knock it down. They focus a lot on the reaction of the people in the mosque after seeing the film, and how conspiracy theories might isolate muslims from the rest of the UK population.

In reality, however, the majority of people who believe that 9/11 and 7/7 were inside jobs are NOT muslims at all, and we're quite able to judge the value of the evidence presented in such videos for ourselves.

BBC is also involved in misinformation on 9/11 -> WTC7

[TheFlarey]

WTC7 was smashed by the falling debris from the twin towers and the entire building was ablaze after the first collapse. The far side of the building that you see in the footage of the final collapse was undamaged which gives impression it just fell down by controlled demolition.

How the fuck could hundreds of technicians rig the building with explosive and nobody else fucking saw them?

None of them fucking talked in 8 years?

You are a fucking moron.

[FightTheElite]

@TheFlarey

WTC7 was not 'smashed' by falling debris. Also, falling debris does not cause a building to collapse into the path of most resistance. Get your physics book out before you start typing.

Moreover, WTC owner Larry Silverstein said he gave the order to "pull it".

By the way, if one of the demolition experts involved were to talk, people like you wouldn't believe them anyway... you'd probably say he was a focking moron, as you appear to enjoy that phrase.

[FightTheElite]

@TheFlarey

Furthermore, if the US government didn't want us to think controlled demolition was involved in the WTC collapses, they could have done things differently:

They could have refrained from hiring a company actually called 'Controlled Demolition' to haul off the steel girders (i.e. evidence) in such a hurry.

Also:

-Many of the alledged hijackers turned up alive after 9/11.

-Massive put-options on United Airlines and American Airlines.

-Multiple wargames going on simulaniously

[FightTheElite]

@TheFlarey

I understand that you haven't found sufficient or indeed any evidence to believe that Al-Qaida is in fact still an asset of the Anglo-American establishment which created it.

I put it to you that there is plenty of evidence widely available to understand and accept the validity of my stance. If you can't find the evidence it really suggests that you're not looking at all, that you're bad at finding it, or more likely that you just will not allow it to burst your mental bubble.

[TheFlarey]

Yesterday 8 British troops on patrol were killed by IED's planted by the Taliban in Afghanistan. The rising casualties have created a political storm in Britain about whether they are properly equiped to fight the counterinsurgency and even whether the war is winnable.

At a time when Labour is suffering in the polls due to political corruption scandals and the faltering economy why would they use their "asset" to deliberately create more political headaches?

Illogical.

[TheFlarey]

The US military conducts wargames all the time. So what?

Which hijackers turned up alive? If so why didn't they get the attention of the world press and the blogsphere who would jump on the story?

If you are going to remove tens of thousands of tons of twisted metal I imagine a demolition company is going to be employed. So what?

[gunthaarz]

Controlled Demolition inc, would know what obvious evidence to remove from the scene at once. .

[tonythatjesusloves]

all this bollocks about an anonymous accuser , we want the truth not excuses and side stepping. this is poor stuff

[tonythatjesusloves]

this video does not reasure or lay this to rest , it does not deal with the important issues , its lame

[Gummage06]

Rachel North is a well know Zionist, Neo-Con, Haw Haw! Peter Power is in it up to his neck and I can see right through the scum bag liar! The BBC should be ashamed of them selves, trying to pull out a propaganda film like this, in this day and age. Tony Blair really gave the game away by announcing the attacks where carried out in the name of Islam, before the police had anything tangible to go on. I hope people complain about the BBC's impartiality, remember the Gaza appeal???

[TheFlarey]

I can remember 7/7 like everyone else.

They resembled the Madrid bombings which were also the handiwork of Islamic terrorists who attacked trains.

My immediate reaction to 7/7 was it was probably Islamic terrorists who were behind a score of bombings and attacks around the world not to mention the insurgency in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Blair was as shocked as anyone else and I have no doubt he knew it was Islamic terrorists too.

So fuck off you prick.

[LiesLikeKnives]

Well, Tony-evil cunt satanist-Blair is a good actor.

Did you see him on comic relief?

[TheFlarey]

So because he acted in a sketch with Katherine Tate that means he must have ordered the 7/7 bombings and organised a elaborate plot to decieve the British public????

[RavenPrecept]

He was great in Comic Relief.

Obviously we are now at the wrapping up stage of the video where it turns out there was no conspiricy after all. Hear Tony go on to say that most Muslims are decent law abiding people, so that's OK then. Obviously he can't be blaming it on Islamic Extremists without any evidence after all. BBC spinning like a batton at a drum majorettes march.