@Okay this guy a hero for what he did but the american pilots were also heroes too and american pilots were in far more danger than this guy with all the S.A.M and anti-aircraft guns shooting from the ground. U.S pilots knew if they were shot down and captured it was a 100% guarantee they would be tortured or killed. U.S pilots don't enjoy killing innocent civilians with their bombs but its impossible to avoid when the enemy put hit targets in civilian areas.
Mig-21 was actually 1 generation older aircraft than the F-4,very primitive radar and avionics, which makes this pilot even greater.. too bad Vietnamese didn't have Mig-23..which was the actual soviet F-4 equivalent at that time with maybe better radar and missiles than F-4.Considering Vietnam air force was massively outnumbered with Mig-23 i guess score should be even equal maybe !?
In Vietnam war, MIG 17`s were the surprise, not MIG 21. At that time both - americans and russions tought that there will be no more gun dog fight - just rockets. And extremelly agile MIG 17 proved that time of dog fight isn`t still gone.
Vietnamese aces mig21 "wartime" Tomb Nguyen, Nguyen Van Coc, Mai Van Cuong, Nguyen Hong Hu, Pham Thanh Ngan, Dang Ngoc Ngy, Nguyen Van Bay, Vu Ngoc Dinh, Le Thanh Dao, Nguyen Dang Kinh, Nguyen Duc EBLD, Nguyen Ngoc Do, Nguyen Trieu Nato, Nguyen Tien Sam, Le Huy, Huy Luu Tiao, Nguyen Van Ngia.
Tough guys. They had more aces than the Murricans, which you'd never know from the way Western media cover this stuff. We Western dumbasses get fed the lie that the commie hordes had numbers versus our quality, but in the air at least "we" outnumbered the Vietnamese massively... which is why they had more aces. They had more targets!
Beats those history channel documentaries were the only aces are americans. Idiots like the chinook guy in the comments section still cant believe what happened to them. Great video Awsome channel (even if i don't understand most of it)
the vietnamese fighter pilots are among the best fighter pilots ever!!! By the way, does someone can provide an actual overview of the Vietnamese Air Force? Bases, units, aircrafts...MANY THANKS IN ADVANCE...
Early Missile Technology Was Very Bad Most of the Kills came too the Use of Guns in Vietnam im Sure he did use his missiles but i bet most of his kills was with guns
@xxchinookxx LOL hahahahhaha little bitch red neck by Mongoloid Soviets you really mean Russians, well too bad their training and weapons sent your ass packing in Vietnam LOL butthurt are you.
How did he manage to evade the Americans AIM-7 missiles? was his version of the MiG-21 equipped with RWR (radar warning and receiver) or just simply by sight?
@Elfulcrum777 As I know his MiG-21PF didnt has RWR. In my view he evaded them by getting warned by his wingman or looking in the mirror. It could be also a feeling. A note is that Nguyen Van Coc scored his most kills as a wingman. The role was to protect the flight leader. So he was a defensive fighter pilot that earned him the nickname "Iron Falcon" and Lurking Tiger".
@VNMIG Evading all those missiles with no RWR must have been quite difficult dangerous and requiring nerves of steel and amazing concentration and good eye sight . it amazes me he pulled it off btw how many of his kills were Phantoms?
@VNMIG Another issue might be the low performance of early semiactive radar guided air-to-air missiles. It is a topic that is often discussed, and some cite rules of engagement making beyond visual range launches rare. I believe the early Sparrow and Sidewinder models did not have low smoke propellants, giving a clear visual indication for launches.
@Elfulcrum777 Aim-7's we're not very reliable in dogfights as it would overshoot a target during high G maneuvers, and most were faulty. Then the F4's become prey as they are not designed with guns to combat in dogfighting until later.
@trip7shark Even the new AIM-120 missiles are not that great, in Kosovo one MIG-29 pilot dodged at least 8 Aim-120 while flying his malfunctioning plane and then landed at a base
@Elfulcrum777 very simply during the vietnam war the aim 7 to put it in a better word was extreemly un reliable thanks to the tech being new and vietnams climite the aim 7 only worked about 10% of the time
@VNMIG I knew Huey pilot that flew in Vietnam, was shot down 3 times and got a Silver Star.. Equipment whether rifles or planes can be replace but as we know in WW2 Germany had aboundance of planes but few experienced pilots so did Japan. Japan had 80,000 fighters but no fuel or experienced pilots..
He survived the war becoming later a lieutenant general of the Vietnamese Army. From 1996 - 1999 he was Commander in Chief of the Vietnamese Air Force and from 1992 - 2002 he was Chief Inspector of the Vietnamese Army.
@30t4n75 LBJ dead in 1972,,, he conducted the war from his kitchen table thats why USA forces lost...He was another corporal, he didnt know shit about war..Lesson dont get involved in War unless your propared to finish it...
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None, we did not have enough training and skill to maneuver and fight in the air, and we hardly ever try to face the American Imperalist Air Force, we scared to be shot down. We just try to keep this as propaganda image.
claps claps claps! he not just has defended his nation, he has defended our liberty, those all countrys amenaced by the USA empire
Ppl like him teached us that we have to defend ourselves of invadders nations like USA nd their alliers, hes my hero too nd urs because Nguyen Van Coc fought everyone who knows wich one its the true enemmy
@SmArOv C´mon, don´t be so naive. It´s absolutely clear that both forces (USA and the CCCP) where making a lot of free research with their equipment and designs during this war (and many others), using also fresh meat for that purpose: Marines, Army, Navy, VietCong, etc. Almost no true ideology there, just business. However, all those fighters are amazing machines. Hope that we would never go through a war, to suffer against that kind of weapons.
Soldiers of Vietnam, forward! The gold star afluttering Leading the people of our native land out of misery and suffering. Let us join our efforts in the fight to build a new life. Arise and break these chains. For too long have we swallowed our hatred. Be ready for all sacrifices and life will be radiant. Ceaselessly for the People's cause, let us struggle, Let us hasten to the battlefield! Onward! All together advancing! For one eternal Vietnam.
National Anthem of Vietnam: Doàn quân Vietnam di Chung lòng cuu quoc, Bu'óc chân don vang trên du'óng gap ghenh xa. Co in máu chien thang mang hon nu'óc Súng ngoài xa chen khúc quân hanh ca. Duong vinh quang xây xác quân thù Thang gian lao, cùng nhau lap chien khu. Vi nhân dân chien dau không ngung Tien mau ra sa tru'óng. Tien lên! Cùng tien lên! Nuoc non Vietnam ta vung ben.
. Nguyễn Văn Bảy bay chiếc MiG 17 số hiệu 2047 đã ném bom trúng tàu khu trục HiBi của hạm đội 7. Sau đó, hải quân Mỹ đã cố kéo chiếc HiBi về Đà Nẵng đại tu nhưng không kịp, nó đã chìm tại vùng biển Quảng Bình. Còn chiếc tàu bị Lê Xuân Dị đánh trúng do không bị hư hại quá nặng nên được kéo sang Philippines sửa chữa.
tớ nghe nói vụ đấy là cải tiến máy bay không đối không thành máy bay ném bom!tạo thế bất ngờ==>fải cực giỏi cực may mới ném đc ^^!!nghe VN bảo là tàu bị thương nangh fải chạy mất!còn Mỹ bảo chỉ bị nhẹ!ko ảnh hưởng!!
Bac Nguyen Van Coc ha 9 may bay my trong 1967-1969. Nguyen Van Bay phi cong MiG-17 duoc nem bom cung bac Le Xuan Di vao nam 1972 vao tau thuy cua my. nhieu nguoi hai quan my bi diet trong tran chien dau day. day la tan cong nem bom duy nhat cua Khong Quan Nhan Dan Vietnam.
@Okay this guy a hero for what he did but the american pilots were also heroes too and american pilots were in far more danger than this guy with all the S.A.M and anti-aircraft guns shooting from the ground. U.S pilots knew if they were shot down and captured it was a 100% guarantee they would be tortured or killed. U.S pilots don't enjoy killing innocent civilians with their bombs but its impossible to avoid when the enemy put hit targets in civilian areas.
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Mig-21 was actually 1 generation older aircraft than the F-4,very primitive radar and avionics, which makes this pilot even greater.. too bad Vietnamese didn't have Mig-23..which was the actual soviet F-4 equivalent at that time with maybe better radar and missiles than F-4.Considering Vietnam air force was massively outnumbered with Mig-23 i guess score should be even equal maybe !?
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aerofilll 2 months ago
In Vietnam war, MIG 17`s were the surprise, not MIG 21. At that time both - americans and russions tought that there will be no more gun dog fight - just rockets. And extremelly agile MIG 17 proved that time of dog fight isn`t still gone.
sakadabara 2 months ago
Love that Mig 21 !! With good avionics, a good pilot could clean anyone's clock !!
squadman33 2 months ago
Vietnamese aces mig21 "wartime" Tomb Nguyen, Nguyen Van Coc, Mai Van Cuong, Nguyen Hong Hu, Pham Thanh Ngan, Dang Ngoc Ngy, Nguyen Van Bay, Vu Ngoc Dinh, Le Thanh Dao, Nguyen Dang Kinh, Nguyen Duc EBLD, Nguyen Ngoc Do, Nguyen Trieu Nato, Nguyen Tien Sam, Le Huy, Huy Luu Tiao, Nguyen Van Ngia.
redneck10ivan 3 months ago
nỗi khiếp sợ của không lực Hoa Kỳ là đây!!!
dunganhnd 4 months ago
Tough guys. They had more aces than the Murricans, which you'd never know from the way Western media cover this stuff. We Western dumbasses get fed the lie that the commie hordes had numbers versus our quality, but in the air at least "we" outnumbered the Vietnamese massively... which is why they had more aces. They had more targets!
deino117 4 months ago 4
have to salute a good pilot!
foogy4 4 months ago
F-4 is always better than MiG-21 in theory, but on the battlefield, pilot's skills and his luck made another story :)
easterndragon9x 4 months ago
Downing nine enemy aircraft is a tremendous achievement by a single pilot,under the given circumstances.
numiverzum 5 months ago
Beats those history channel documentaries were the only aces are americans. Idiots like the chinook guy in the comments section still cant believe what happened to them. Great video Awsome channel (even if i don't understand most of it)
PARATERRORIST 5 months ago
the vietnamese fighter pilots are among the best fighter pilots ever!!! By the way, does someone can provide an actual overview of the Vietnamese Air Force? Bases, units, aircrafts...MANY THANKS IN ADVANCE...
ZAPUTSKAL 6 months ago
Early Missile Technology Was Very Bad Most of the Kills came too the Use of Guns in Vietnam im Sure he did use his missiles but i bet most of his kills was with guns
HolyViagra 8 months ago
Nice shoot Vietnam brothers)Glory russian weapon!
ALEXT48178273 8 months ago
How I wish I could read this crap you are spouting off. Russian equipment and Russian know how the The NVA had zero.
bobtis 9 months ago
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@bobtis "How I wish I could read this crap you are spouting off. Russian equipment and Russian know how the The NVA had zero."
And without the US, South Vietnam had zero. What's your point?
JustinAndrews74 9 months ago
@bobtis So you mean the pilot has nothing to do with the victory? the MIG21 flew and shoot enemy down by itself? Men, how stupid you are!!!
JoshuaMai1 9 months ago
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zamiel1000 10 months ago
We can thank the Mongoid Soviets for training some of these Air Gooks.
xxchinookxx 1 year ago
@xxchinookxx LOL hahahahhaha little bitch red neck by Mongoloid Soviets you really mean Russians, well too bad their training and weapons sent your ass packing in Vietnam LOL butthurt are you.
Russiasuperpower1 5 months ago 3
How did he manage to evade the Americans AIM-7 missiles? was his version of the MiG-21 equipped with RWR (radar warning and receiver) or just simply by sight?
Elfulcrum777 1 year ago
@Elfulcrum777 As I know his MiG-21PF didnt has RWR. In my view he evaded them by getting warned by his wingman or looking in the mirror. It could be also a feeling. A note is that Nguyen Van Coc scored his most kills as a wingman. The role was to protect the flight leader. So he was a defensive fighter pilot that earned him the nickname "Iron Falcon" and Lurking Tiger".
VNMIG 1 year ago
@VNMIG Evading all those missiles with no RWR must have been quite difficult dangerous and requiring nerves of steel and amazing concentration and good eye sight . it amazes me he pulled it off btw how many of his kills were Phantoms?
Elfulcrum777 1 year ago
@Elfulcrum777 he claimed two, but the americans claimed that he shoot down 3 F-4s.
VNMIG 1 year ago
@VNMIG the rest were bombers i assume
Elfulcrum777 1 year ago
@Elfulcrum777 to be more precise F-105 Fighter Bombers.
VNMIG 1 year ago
@VNMIG yeah i thought so i just couldn't remember the name
Elfulcrum777 1 year ago
@VNMIG Another issue might be the low performance of early semiactive radar guided air-to-air missiles. It is a topic that is often discussed, and some cite rules of engagement making beyond visual range launches rare. I believe the early Sparrow and Sidewinder models did not have low smoke propellants, giving a clear visual indication for launches.
ODMSys 11 months ago
@Elfulcrum777 Aim-7's we're not very reliable in dogfights as it would overshoot a target during high G maneuvers, and most were faulty. Then the F4's become prey as they are not designed with guns to combat in dogfighting until later.
trip7shark 1 year ago
@trip7shark Even the new AIM-120 missiles are not that great, in Kosovo one MIG-29 pilot dodged at least 8 Aim-120 while flying his malfunctioning plane and then landed at a base
Elfulcrum777 1 year ago
@Elfulcrum777 very simply during the vietnam war the aim 7 to put it in a better word was extreemly un reliable thanks to the tech being new and vietnams climite the aim 7 only worked about 10% of the time
umlungu360 5 months ago
@Elfulcrum777 Accuracy of first versions AIM-7 was really bad.
mater3com 4 months ago
To*' la` Nguyên Văn Ếch đây.
jasluvtian 1 year ago
Was this the pilot that got shot down three times and still went up in another fighter to engage the americans??
spacecop67 1 year ago
@spacecop67 No he wasnt. It must be a another pilot.
VNMIG 1 year ago
@VNMIG I knew Huey pilot that flew in Vietnam, was shot down 3 times and got a Silver Star.. Equipment whether rifles or planes can be replace but as we know in WW2 Germany had aboundance of planes but few experienced pilots so did Japan. Japan had 80,000 fighters but no fuel or experienced pilots..
spacecop67 1 year ago
@spacecop67
is spacecop67 another son of a VN Veteran who got shot down
once by a teenage VN pilot and now he wants revenge by
trying to start trolling on youtube????
111i1011 1 year ago
congrats to vietnam people's army's air heros. you guys did an excellent job.
fedzog 1 year ago
was he shot down after becoming an ace or did he survive the whole conflict?
Elfulcrum777 1 year ago
He survived the war becoming later a lieutenant general of the Vietnamese Army. From 1996 - 1999 he was Commander in Chief of the Vietnamese Air Force and from 1992 - 2002 he was Chief Inspector of the Vietnamese Army.
VNMIG 1 year ago
@VNMIG interesting , it looks America met its match with this guy
Elfulcrum777 1 year ago
Great Pilot!
THIDUA 1 year ago 3
6. Thành phần: Nông dân.
cuối cùng trở thành the top fighter ace và là Trung tướng, Tổng Thanh tra Quân đội nhân dân Việt Nam
Hãnh diện :X
zzztriplexzzz 1 year ago 2
aces all .heroes too salute all airmen nationswide.
terry
terryjohn 1 year ago
Em dong tinh voi bac VietNamXHCNmuonnam.Con thang con cho quangvs9 kia,may co dam bao ve dat nuoc nhu cac anh ay khong ma doi sua ha con!!!
Mrboyxehoi 1 year ago
DO MA MAY!
1977rune 1 year ago
ĐM khỉ đột đó mà đánh cho 1 lũ chó chạy đéo biệt nhục giờ quay lại sủa . hãy chúng mày đéo có ai tài hơn mà ghen tức à !
VietNamXHCNmuonnam 1 year ago 3
tat hien oai.nhin nhung hinh anh nay ma hanh dien qua
congsan9x 2 years ago
Привет из России!
CENOZOICMAN 2 years ago
maravilhoso !
os pilotos vietnamitas são os mais heroicos do planeta,derrotaram os americaninhos viados,yankees filhos da puta.
viva para sempre nguien.
antonio digigov
brasil
antoniodigigov 2 years ago 6
uno que le dio por la cola a los yanquis
fgyyyh 2 years ago
Quân Đội Nhân Dân Việt Nam anh hùng!
Dân tộc Việt Nam anh hùng!
conrongchautienify 2 years ago 4
heroe¡¡¡¡...viva vietnam....saludos de México ( spanish).
gretsch1971 2 years ago 4
hero
ngord 2 years ago 5
very hard to defeat US AirForce , but he did it , 9 SHOTS , HE IS A HERO !
30t4n75 2 years ago 42
@30t4n75 LBJ dead in 1972,,, he conducted the war from his kitchen table thats why USA forces lost...He was another corporal, he didnt know shit about war..Lesson dont get involved in War unless your propared to finish it...
spacecop67 1 year ago 3
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Slope-head...Mogoloids...
propatria431 2 years ago
he is a hero
trechantrau 2 years ago 25
WITH 9 KILLS!!!! of course!!!!! greetings
Ticonio 2 years ago 5
col.Tomb
terryjohn 2 years ago
The vietnamese airforce a formidable opponet to us the U.S
Great pilots they fought hard.
shouavaj12 2 years ago 5
the real top gun!
mac163 2 years ago 4
Impressive,and I like more that the Vietnamese Army made a monument with the plane that he flown!
OpelGTC 2 years ago
they need to make a freaking movie about him - i want to write the script!
mataikan 2 years ago 9
nice idea =)
VNMIG 2 years ago 2
read before sent a comment
VNMIG 2 years ago
How many and which kind of planes this pilot shot down in Vietman War?
RomelioSanz 2 years ago
He is given credit for 9 American kills. The planes that he shot down were: (2) F105D, F-4D, (2) F-105F, F102A, F4B, (2) AQM-34
teivman23 2 years ago 5
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None, we did not have enough training and skill to maneuver and fight in the air, and we hardly ever try to face the American Imperalist Air Force, we scared to be shot down. We just try to keep this as propaganda image.
killkenny321 2 years ago
claps claps claps! he not just has defended his nation, he has defended our liberty, those all countrys amenaced by the USA empire
Ppl like him teached us that we have to defend ourselves of invadders nations like USA nd their alliers, hes my hero too nd urs because Nguyen Van Coc fought everyone who knows wich one its the true enemmy
SmArOv 2 years ago 13
well said !
VNMIG 2 years ago
@SmArOv C´mon, don´t be so naive. It´s absolutely clear that both forces (USA and the CCCP) where making a lot of free research with their equipment and designs during this war (and many others), using also fresh meat for that purpose: Marines, Army, Navy, VietCong, etc. Almost no true ideology there, just business. However, all those fighters are amazing machines. Hope that we would never go through a war, to suffer against that kind of weapons.
GrossMeisterFuchs 1 year ago 2
if someone can give a translation
NomadHeart1985 2 years ago
VNMIG 2 years ago 2
oh thank you, very courageous song.
NomadHeart1985 2 years ago
dmmksl 2 years ago
. Nguyễn Văn Bảy bay chiếc MiG 17 số hiệu 2047 đã ném bom trúng tàu khu trục HiBi của hạm đội 7. Sau đó, hải quân Mỹ đã cố kéo chiếc HiBi về Đà Nẵng đại tu nhưng không kịp, nó đã chìm tại vùng biển Quảng Bình. Còn chiếc tàu bị Lê Xuân Dị đánh trúng do không bị hư hại quá nặng nên được kéo sang Philippines sửa chữa.
namgiang17 2 years ago
HERO!!!!!!!!!!!
grummeper 3 years ago
tớ nghe nói vụ đấy là cải tiến máy bay không đối không thành máy bay ném bom!tạo thế bất ngờ==>fải cực giỏi cực may mới ném đc ^^!!nghe VN bảo là tàu bị thương nangh fải chạy mất!còn Mỹ bảo chỉ bị nhẹ!ko ảnh hưởng!!
quanganhbeo90 3 years ago
e noi sai rui` nha,chi la nem bom trong Vn war thui chu' danh Cambodia thi` ta lam` chu vung` troi`,Polpot bi an bomb lien tuc :D
boyyeudoi 3 years ago
ong nay` ha bao nhieu may bay nhi?Cai' vu ong nay` nem' bom tau` My co' giet duoc thuy thu nao khong?
boyyeudoi 3 years ago
Bac Nguyen Van Coc ha 9 may bay my trong 1967-1969. Nguyen Van Bay phi cong MiG-17 duoc nem bom cung bac Le Xuan Di vao nam 1972 vao tau thuy cua my. nhieu nguoi hai quan my bi diet trong tran chien dau day. day la tan cong nem bom duy nhat cua Khong Quan Nhan Dan Vietnam.
VNMIG 3 years ago