Geraldine Rojas and Javier Rodriguez are two of THE best tango dancers in the world. This is well known in the tango community. Vincent and Flavia are very good but, would admit themselves, are learning on a very long journey which takes many years..
This is a spurious comparison. A better comparison would've been Miriam Larici - tango fantasia with lifts and so forth but done with tango technique, as opposed to Vincent and Flav..'argentine' tango fantasia with ballroom technique.
If I want to watch technical perfection, I would go watching a ballet performance, not show tango. Just because one moves perfectly to tango music doesn't mean one dances tango.
Having just watched Vincent and Flavias argentine tango on this weekends strictly I think that they are technically brilliant at a fully coreograped routine, but for me the dance is all about passion and no one has ever come close to the chemistry that used to exist between Geraldine and Javier. the true beauty of their dancing brings tears to my eyes. They will remain in history as the greatest ever.
This is very beautiful but, just because this is excellent, doesn't mean that Vincent and Flavia aren't. Just because it's two (of the many) different styles of Tango doesn't mean one is good and one is bad, just different. Chocolate originated in South America but now most cocoa is grown in Africa. Experts can tell you where it's from but for most of us it is just something to be enjoyed. Dancing should be treated the same way. You may have your preference but it all takes skill, so enjoy it.
questo video è stato postato (anzi, ripostato) dal mio canale per rispondere a una ridicola polemica sulla bravura (???) di questi Vincent & Flavia... ero talmente infastidita che mi sono sentita di rispondere a tono =P
ma questi non sono vincent e flavia...sono javier rodriguez e geraldine rojas....plagio.........cambiate il nome...hehehhehe è un po' diverso questo tango.....argentino....heheh
cmq...non è per plagio, ma per sfottò a chi pontificava sulla magnificenza di Vincent e Flavia (che io ho scoperto su youtube, ma di cui comunque non sentivo particolarmente la mancanza). Come ho risposto a robertangoblivion ero talmente indispettita che ho dovuto pubblicare un video di Geraldine e Javier, così per bilanciare le cose =)
@VeroniqueMagnifique mmm si mi vista no me engaña son Javier y Geraldine, considero que Vincent y Flavia tambien son muy buenos pero tienen otro estilo.
Hay muchos pasos que son tipicos de Javier y Geraldine en este video y no veo el estilo de Vinvent y Flavia aqui.
this is pure argentine Tango, milonguero style and of course i do appreciate it, performed by Javier and Geraldine, while the two dancers you're all refering to ,are Vincent and Flavia from BBC show strictly come dancing: It's true they are world champion of tango, but let me be precise of Tango Show! a discipline part of ballroom dances, little to do with traditional argentine tango, so th etwo couples are both excellent simply dancing two different things!
The style is not the so called milonguero style, it is far closer to Villa Urquiza or the Tango Salon, category of the world championship in Buenos Aires.
i agree, there are now many variations of tango and we're all entitled to our opinions. However there can be no doubt that Geraldine and Javier are the total embodiment of Tango -100% connection & feeling.
I don't think I understand the 'a little bit technical' and 'ridiculous expression' bit. I mean, I watched it again to check, but they're just smiling the whole dance. As for the technical, I don't know, of course they've got an excellent technique, but there's more than that in their dance I think, more feeling.
its a natural expression, they are expressing a real feeling and really leading and following. ballroom immitates the effect, not the sentiment, and uses technique derived from other dances. it may take you more time to appreciate argentine tango, but it is much richer, more genuine and has much richer music and expression. it is about the connection and feeling between two people, not so much about the show.
Richer? How do you know? What other dances are you referring to?? And you don't think the Tango waltz is influenced by...the Waltz?! True, Argentine tango socially is an exchange between 2 people. But on a stage, You dance FOR other people. So why do you knock down dances that exteriorise these feeling through flexibility, technique and athletic training ? "...ballroom imitates the effect.." So you are truly depressed and nostalgic?! It seems to me you dance the tango but you are not a dancer.
Yes, these are Javier and Geraldine. Vincent and Flavia are two dancers who claim to be world champions of Argentinean Tango. If you follow the link under the video you'll see.
Very good, but I don't like it when people make jibes at ballroom and latin dancing. True, it has been changed, but it has been changed to make it a discipline for competitions.
What ballroom, what Latin and what competitions? This is Argentinean Tango. It has still managed to remain an art, despite some people trying unsuccessfully to make A.T. competitions. Haven't you noticed that they are not moving like robots, nor are they standing like peacocks, but they are focussed to one another?
Conste que a mí me encantan Javier Rodríguez con quien quiera que baile (Geraldine o Andrea), pero en las variaciones querer llegar tan al límite no hace bien a su baile...
Geraldine Rojas and Javier Rodriguez are two of THE best tango dancers in the world. This is well known in the tango community. Vincent and Flavia are very good but, would admit themselves, are learning on a very long journey which takes many years..
durali0 2 years ago
wow both of them are very good
yuynkng 2 years ago
This is a spurious comparison. A better comparison would've been Miriam Larici - tango fantasia with lifts and so forth but done with tango technique, as opposed to Vincent and Flav..'argentine' tango fantasia with ballroom technique.
MissCivility 2 years ago
If I want to watch technical perfection, I would go watching a ballet performance, not show tango. Just because one moves perfectly to tango music doesn't mean one dances tango.
nyctangojunkie 2 years ago
si ma non si capiva che era uno sfottò....sembrava che jeraldine e javier li avessero spacciati per Vincent e Flavia...
capito il senso??????
VeroniqueMagnifique 2 years ago
Having just watched Vincent and Flavias argentine tango on this weekends strictly I think that they are technically brilliant at a fully coreograped routine, but for me the dance is all about passion and no one has ever come close to the chemistry that used to exist between Geraldine and Javier. the true beauty of their dancing brings tears to my eyes. They will remain in history as the greatest ever.
keithgb666 2 years ago
This is very beautiful but, just because this is excellent, doesn't mean that Vincent and Flavia aren't. Just because it's two (of the many) different styles of Tango doesn't mean one is good and one is bad, just different. Chocolate originated in South America but now most cocoa is grown in Africa. Experts can tell you where it's from but for most of us it is just something to be enjoyed. Dancing should be treated the same way. You may have your preference but it all takes skill, so enjoy it.
lyndale1608 2 years ago 3
Beautifully said. Thank You. x
ficklemiss 2 years ago
bravissimi
merelypart 2 years ago
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wlinbrookes 2 years ago
Ora abbiamo capito!
robertangoblivion 2 years ago
amazing
ddannijjella 2 years ago
Javier Rodriguez e Geraldine Rojas. Vincent e Flavia????????????????????
robertangoblivion 2 years ago
questo video è stato postato (anzi, ripostato) dal mio canale per rispondere a una ridicola polemica sulla bravura (???) di questi Vincent & Flavia... ero talmente infastidita che mi sono sentita di rispondere a tono =P
PensaloBien 2 years ago
ma questi non sono vincent e flavia...sono javier rodriguez e geraldine rojas....plagio.........cambiate il nome...hehehhehe è un po' diverso questo tango.....argentino....heheh
VeroniqueMagnifique 2 years ago
vedi commento precendente... =)
cmq...non è per plagio, ma per sfottò a chi pontificava sulla magnificenza di Vincent e Flavia (che io ho scoperto su youtube, ma di cui comunque non sentivo particolarmente la mancanza). Come ho risposto a robertangoblivion ero talmente indispettita che ho dovuto pubblicare un video di Geraldine e Javier, così per bilanciare le cose =)
PensaloBien 2 years ago
@VeroniqueMagnifique mmm si mi vista no me engaña son Javier y Geraldine, considero que Vincent y Flavia tambien son muy buenos pero tienen otro estilo.
Hay muchos pasos que son tipicos de Javier y Geraldine en este video y no veo el estilo de Vinvent y Flavia aqui.
Saludos
MsTriton2008 1 year ago
hay es super el tango
Princessx1oo 2 years ago
this is pure argentine Tango, milonguero style and of course i do appreciate it, performed by Javier and Geraldine, while the two dancers you're all refering to ,are Vincent and Flavia from BBC show strictly come dancing: It's true they are world champion of tango, but let me be precise of Tango Show! a discipline part of ballroom dances, little to do with traditional argentine tango, so th etwo couples are both excellent simply dancing two different things!
matacotton 2 years ago
The style is not the so called milonguero style, it is far closer to Villa Urquiza or the Tango Salon, category of the world championship in Buenos Aires.
krasi69 2 years ago
arrasarammmmmmmmm
neolbraz 3 years ago
i agree, there are now many variations of tango and we're all entitled to our opinions. However there can be no doubt that Geraldine and Javier are the total embodiment of Tango -100% connection & feeling.
sabrinatanglo 3 years ago
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really circus
73fbgdantraigues 3 years ago
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a little bit technical but bowring and ridiculous expression
73fbgdantraigues 3 years ago
I don't think I understand the 'a little bit technical' and 'ridiculous expression' bit. I mean, I watched it again to check, but they're just smiling the whole dance. As for the technical, I don't know, of course they've got an excellent technique, but there's more than that in their dance I think, more feeling.
PensaloBien 3 years ago
its a natural expression, they are expressing a real feeling and really leading and following. ballroom immitates the effect, not the sentiment, and uses technique derived from other dances. it may take you more time to appreciate argentine tango, but it is much richer, more genuine and has much richer music and expression. it is about the connection and feeling between two people, not so much about the show.
12bumble24 3 years ago
shouldn't you be working ? :-P .... and I agree this is Tango, ballroom Tango is a mechanical interpretation of a sensual dance of sharing.
AfterSimplicus 3 years ago
Richer? How do you know? What other dances are you referring to?? And you don't think the Tango waltz is influenced by...the Waltz?! True, Argentine tango socially is an exchange between 2 people. But on a stage, You dance FOR other people. So why do you knock down dances that exteriorise these feeling through flexibility, technique and athletic training ? "...ballroom imitates the effect.." So you are truly depressed and nostalgic?! It seems to me you dance the tango but you are not a dancer.
MichaelSalsa75 3 years ago
you must be joking!!!
it is obvious that you don t have any idea about tango!!!!
felinagriega 2 years ago
are you talking with the Geraldine/Javier "supporter" or the Vincent/Flavia ones?
PensaloBien 2 years ago
Of caurse I am Geraldine's supporter!
My replay was for 73fbgdantraigues opinion,
that made a ridiculous comment for Geraldine and Javier and made me furious!!!!AAA!!!!
But I think I made a mistake and didn t click the right replay mark!
And please accept my deepest sorries!
felinagriega 2 years ago
no worries..lol =)
PensaloBien 2 years ago
Who is Vicent y Flavia. These are Javier y Geraldine ?
burakgocmen86 4 years ago
Yes, these are Javier and Geraldine. Vincent and Flavia are two dancers who claim to be world champions of Argentinean Tango. If you follow the link under the video you'll see.
PensaloBien 4 years ago
c'est le tango réel!!!
VictoriaTang 4 years ago
Very good, but I don't like it when people make jibes at ballroom and latin dancing. True, it has been changed, but it has been changed to make it a discipline for competitions.
RedWingEagle 4 years ago
What ballroom, what Latin and what competitions? This is Argentinean Tango. It has still managed to remain an art, despite some people trying unsuccessfully to make A.T. competitions. Haven't you noticed that they are not moving like robots, nor are they standing like peacocks, but they are focussed to one another?
zx67547 4 years ago 5
this is real tango :)
linadark 4 years ago 3
yep! =)
PensaloBien 4 years ago
Conste que a mí me encantan Javier Rodríguez con quien quiera que baile (Geraldine o Andrea), pero en las variaciones querer llegar tan al límite no hace bien a su baile...
5men7arios 4 years ago
yes, I too prefer when it's simply a dance without choreographies and stuff =)
PensaloBien 4 years ago